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641  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior on: October 24, 2013, 10:43:48 AM
I don't see how that chat proves anything.
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13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations
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14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought

Also Dooglus said he never paid them and they still got an A+.

They paid him 25btc. He refuses to score them low, even though there is a ton of evidence for corrupted behavior on their end. He gave him an A+ for software...that is outright ridiculous given the fact that they cloned SD in its entirety. He claims they do not pay him for the high rating. How is his behavior not corrupted?

I can tell you one thing. Where he claims he comes from (SBR http://www.sportsbookreview.com), this would have never happened. It just doesn't work this way. The SBR rating process:

Your company enters with an initial rating of B or C, depending on past history of the founders. For 6 months you are not allowed to pay a penny to them to advertise, this is their trial period. After you have been secure for 6 months, with no wrongdoing, and if they decide it is safe, they allow you to to do paid advertisements on their site. The only times a rating goes down is when there are player complaints.

In this case, paying BCP from day one ensures higher rating, and not only that, but also lobbying in your favor on public spaces. Dooglus hasn't paid and in my opinion he doesn't have to. He runs the largest dice site, so why would he pay. What review site in their right mind would not include his business...
642  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior on: October 24, 2013, 10:08:23 AM
Just-Dice chat. This is how you get an A+. All you need to do is pay 25btc and its done! The article in question: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/

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13:54:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> sounds like another gambling agenda from someone
13:54:27 (72492) <badguy> with that much evidence...highly doubt it
13:54:43 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent 2000 btcs on advertising
13:54:44 (72492) <badguy> there are screenshots of actual copyright theft, hash theft
13:54:50 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> why would they "do evil"?
13:54:55 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just dont understand
13:54:55 (72492) <badguy> trademark theft
13:55:04 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> oh I agree thats messed up
13:55:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> but no harm no foul? we are talking words not actual programs
13:55:33 (72492) <badguy> are they a paid sponsor on your site?
13:55:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> yes
13:55:59 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> so is 19 other companies
13:57:03 (72492) <badguy> yeah, well in my opinion, and apparently what i read, stealing someone else's product isnt cool
13:57:08 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i agree
13:57:12 (72492) <badguy> shows real low moral character
13:57:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> but from a service perspective to players what risk?>
13:57:31 (72492) <badguy> hah
13:57:35 (72492) <badguy> ill tell you what
13:57:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> give me a reason to downgrade that effects play
13:57:40 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i will right now
13:58:03 (72492) <badguy> if today they do all this, tomorrow they will just quit with their players balances, and vanish
13:58:05 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> what they doing is shady it's uncool to steal peoples homework
13:58:17 (710) <drfred> what? Cheesy i highly doubt that 12:54:43 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent 2000 btcs on advertising
13:58:18 (134004) <SJ> have you read that article on betcoin?
13:58:35 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just look in the bitcoin forum auctions
13:58:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they won a full month in a row at 250 btc x 8 slots a week?
13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations
13:59:11 (72492) <badguy> bro, madoff was running a ponzi for 50 years, 49 years he was ok, and people were happy. theft happens only once
13:59:12 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent lots
13:59:37 (134004) <SJ> so theyre basically buying their rating from you
13:59:42 (72492) <badguy> ^^^
13:59:47 (710) <drfred> @ray: no, about betcoin
13:59:57 (72492) <badguy> SJ right on spot
14:00:02 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> no but financial security is a portion of the rating
14:00:25 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just-dice spent zero with us and they rank A+
14:00:31 (98066) <Nix> wait so I could open a site and pay you to make it sound good?
14:00:32 (72492) <badguy> well bcp I don't understand how can you defend them after all their actions
14:00:35 (134004) <SJ> have you read that betcoin article?
14:00:42 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they don't even offer an affiliate program so no money earned just losses occur from sending players here
14:00:43 (134004) <SJ> betcoin should be nowhere near a+ site
14:01:07 (710) <drfred> they gave him money @SJ, he cant rate them bad Cheesy
14:01:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they offer provable gaming, have financial security
14:01:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> good feedback from playerss
14:01:28 (134004) <SJ> have you read that article??
14:01:32 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the 3 main components
14:01:35 (168205) <wanda> LOL
14:01:36 (134004) <SJ> they dont offer provably fair at all
14:01:41 (710) <drfred> or at least he wont
14:01:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> actually its lock tight they use blockchain
14:01:57 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> Doug could verify that
14:02:07 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> oh don'
14:02:11 (72492) <badguy> its not man
14:02:13 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the satoshi wheel
14:02:16 (134004) <SJ> when the secret keys for the previous days were clicked on nothing was revealed. They were empty. This is disturbing as it appears that BetCoinDice’s secret keys information has been lifted directly from the SatoshiDice website
14:02:21 (710) <drfred> as bitpro did prove earlier, he's an expert about security Wink
14:02:21 (134004) <SJ> how is that provably fair??
14:02:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its not
14:02:43 (72492) <badguy> Tradefortress revealed their fairness is a scam
14:02:50 (70603) <life> 19:01:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they offer provable gaming, have financial security
14:02:50 (72492) <badguy> in the forum some time ago
14:02:51 (70603) <life> 19:02:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its not
14:03:09 (168205) <wanda> TIL bitcoincasinopro isn't a pro at anything
14:03:15 (134004) <SJ> so bitcoincasinopro is just takin gthe money to keep them a+ then so loses all respect
14:03:25 (70603) <life> bcpro is a paid fraud shill from the beginning
14:03:31 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> nah
14:03:32 (710) <drfred> looks like that, yes
14:03:33 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/betcoin-network/betcoin-circle-playing-unfair-network-downgraded/
14:03:38 (72492) <badguy> for real Cheesy
14:04:51 (72492) <badguy> bcp what you are showing is nonsense
14:04:53 (134004) <SJ> bitcoincasinopro you even have their link right there on the front page
14:05:06 (134004) <SJ> so im sorry but youre promoting an obvious scam site for money
14:05:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i exposed them for not offering a fair wheel
14:05:15 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> that portion has been downgraded
14:05:23 (134004) <SJ> take their link off your front page
14:05:24 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> how is that not fair?
14:05:52 (134004) <SJ> on your front page under dice sites part way down they are the first site listed
14:05:56 (134004) <SJ> how much did they pay you for that
14:06:44 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they cheated me directly on the wheel prior to offering provable gaming for it
14:06:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i lost 2 btc out of it
14:07:00 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> dont act like Im not a player as you all are right?
14:07:02 (197637) <Vani> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com is that your website?
14:07:03 (134004) <SJ> take them off your front page
14:07:03 (168205) <wanda> we need to make a website that rates websites that rates casinos.
14:07:09 (72492) <badguy> you just said they paid you 25btc
14:07:29 (710) <drfred> @wanda: I'm so in on that Cheesy
14:07:34 (134004) <SJ> why would you have a scam site listed first on the front page under dice sites?
14:07:42 (710) <drfred> meta-rating
14:07:47 (72492) <badguy> SJ its also A+ rated!!!
14:07:51 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the dice is provable fair they use blockchain
14:08:22 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> I will ask the seasoned vets to review the gaming fairness again
14:08:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> and just for the record tradefortress was one that validated that it is indeed fair
14:08:38 (134004) <SJ> bitcoincasinopro you are a sellout
14:08:45 (134004) <SJ> ive just lost all respect for your site and you
14:08:53 (168205) <wanda> +1
14:09:01 (72492) <badguy> tradefortress is the one that revealed their fairness is fake!!!
14:09:08 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> originally
14:09:12 (72492) <badguy> you schill
14:09:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> than went to posting it was legitimate
14:09:26 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> I kept the records
14:09:48 (134004) <SJ> how much did they pay you to be first site listed on front page under dice sites?
14:09:55 (72492) <badguy> wanda +1 on the idea , we really need a review site to filter people like bcp Cheesy
14:10:00 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they didn't pay for that elite spot
14:10:12 (134004) <SJ> so why do you have a scam site there then
14:10:12 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they paid a yearly fee to be included
14:13:47 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> again i lose money promoting just-dice and they A+
14:13:50 (168205) <wanda> i skipped to the bottom of that document, saw a bitcoin address right next to an A+ rating logo
14:13:51 (72492) <badguy> if tomorrow i come up with a dice site and pay you, ill get A+ too, then i scam people and go away
14:13:54 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> Bitzino A+ dont earn a penny there
14:14:07 (134004) <SJ> youre protecting a scam site simple as that
14:14:14 (134004) <SJ> because they line your pockets

14:14:30 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i have declined many offers sorta like bit companies
14:14:37 (710) <drfred> hahahahaha 13:13:47 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> again i lose money promoting just-dice and they A
14:14:40 (710) <drfred> weird logic
14:14:48 (72492) <badguy> ^^^
14:14:52 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitwin-casino/
14:14:52 (134004) <SJ> youre protecting a scam site BCP its so obvious and simple
14:17:12 (168205) <wanda> bcp you have 0 integrity
14:17:14 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> you know what
14:17:20 (72492) <badguy> you are a fucking joke
14:17:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> 10+ have complained about the rating
14:17:32 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> peoples thoughts are one of the bigger factors
14:17:36 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> lets calculate
14:17:39 (168205) <wanda> no 1 cares
14:17:43 (168205) <wanda> ur a joke
14:17:48 (134004) <SJ> you and your site is a joke BCP really,
14:17:56 (72492) <badguy> hahahaha
14:18:07 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> BCP Overall Rating B+ Software A+ Financial Security A+ Dice Promotions A+ Player Feedback C-
14:18:20 (134004) <SJ> how much do i need to pay you get my site listed first with a+ rating, how much does that cost
14:18:25 (72492) <badguy> changing your own rating because others are calling you out?Huh
14:18:35 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its been published
14:18:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> nothing has changed
14:18:44 (134004) <SJ> how much does it cost bcp?
14:18:48 (134004) <SJ> whats your bribe rates
14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought
14:18:59 (168205) <wanda> can i get a discounted bribe rate?
14:19:02 (72492) <badguy> man go hide in a cave
14:19:09 (134004) <SJ> youve proved they can be bought
14:19:15 (134004) <SJ> how much does a+ cost
14:19:19 (70603) <life> 12btc
643  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♠ FREE 0.02BTC ♠ Bit777.com ♠ 50% DEPOSIT BONUS UP TO 5BTC TILL 10/14!!! on: October 24, 2013, 09:53:49 AM
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644  Economy / Services / Re: Get up to 1 BTC per month for your signature! Advertise Bit777 & Peerbet! on: October 23, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
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645  Economy / Services / Re: Get up to 1 BTC per month for your signature! Advertise Bit777 & Peerbet! on: October 23, 2013, 06:08:46 PM
Note: Due to the recent spike in btc price, payouts have changed, and can change at anytime depending on BTC/USD rate, please have that in mind when enrolling.

Too bad, should be applied in the new cycle...



I say that payouts shouldn't change mid-cycle, but perhaps on the 1st of the month - with predictions made to what the OP thinks the average price of BTC will be for that month. That seems fair for everyone.

We don't change them often, this is the 2nd change we have in 6 months, and the previous one pushed them higher. Smiley So it shouldn't be an issue.
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651  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior on: October 23, 2013, 07:15:53 AM
Read through this: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/

The website in question does have A+ Rating!!!
652  Economy / Services / Re: Get up to 1 BTC per month for your signature! Advertise Bit777 & Peerbet! on: October 23, 2013, 07:07:24 AM
Note: Due to the recent spike in btc price, payouts have changed, and can change at anytime depending on BTC/USD rate, please have that in mind when enrolling.

Too bad, should be applied in the new cycle...



If we wait till the next cycle of everyone enrolled, the price might be $300 at the speed the it is jumping. It was ~$80-85 in August when we launched the new model and the higher payouts. Today it is ~$200. That's x2.5 increase of what we originally thought of paying. We only decreased the payouts with ~25-30%. In other words, we still pay more in dollar value than what you would get in August/September from us.
653  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♠ FREE 0.02BTC ♠ Bit777.com ♠ 50% DEPOSIT BONUS UP TO 5BTC TILL 10/14!!! on: October 23, 2013, 06:36:43 AM
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654  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♣♦♥♠ [Bitcoin Gambling/Casino Review Site] - BitcoinGamblingReview.com ♣♦♥♠ on: October 22, 2013, 08:05:27 PM
Hello,

[Note my obvious bias as the long time SealsWithClubs site pro & affiliate manager]

IMO there is no way that Satoshi Poker should get a rating higher than SealsWithClubs [4.5 satoshi vs. 4.4 SwC]  This really disappoints me because I thought that finally there was a "real" bitcoin gambling list that I could reference as a player.  Here is the quote:

"The player traffic experienced by Satoshi Poker is comparable to that of Seals With Clubs. During our tests of the site, we found that there were over 200 players online"

This is simply untrue and poor due diligence by BitcoinGamblingReview.  I understand the point of the project is to SEO the site and sell advertising.  It is a fine model, so long as IamRichard sticks to his guns of "Honest Bitcoin Casino Reviews."  In this case, it was a simple trick from SP to display a large number of "connected" players similar to SwC on their website so anyone glancing at the site would think they are a major player and not a complete ghost town.  A quick view of http://www.pokerscout.com/ or a quick launch of both poker clients would have told the tale:



Both clients are sorted by # of players sitting.  SP has 1, single, solitary player waiting for micro-limit hold'em action.  SwC right now has over 100+ real money bitcoin poker players at 17 cash tables with 14 of those tables having more than 5 players.  Simply put, we are the only place for bitcoin poker action and there is no close 2nd place at this time.  You could play a wide range of limits and tournaments at SwC all day today or sit alone on SP.  I am extremely proud of the hard working team that makes SealsWithClubs.  Tireless hours are spent constantly improving the site and managing a large player base to provide low-rake bitcoin poker you can trust.  Our site started with Freemoney sitting alone at the SwC tables in 2011 waiting for anyone willing to play for bitcoins.  A small group of highly motivated humans have built the site starting from that one man's humble first step - so when I see reviews like this I am so angry that a small trick from a competitor has lead to gross misinformation being published.

Usually do not feel compelled to comment on such things, but this review site is extremely well designed and I think it will eventually rank high on google - so I could not stand idly by this time.

BitcoinGamblingReview - please stick true to your name and do proper due diligence on all bitcoin gambling businesses before posting reviews.

Lol i think you have the wrong site. I do cover poker sites on bitcoingamblingreview.com. Furthermore, the pokersite Bitcoinpokeruniverse.com does not rate the site on a 5 star rating scale.

Please check your facts again. I really have no idea what you are talking about  Huh Maybe you are referring to the other "new" review site that just popped up.

clearly you didn't write the review that's okay I don't write all of the reviews we list.. But one thing I do know is Seals With Clubs does not have any major competitors at this point in time and any other bitcoin poker site has less than 25 active at anytime besides StrikeSaphire which they might have 50 or so at any given time you would have to get them to validate that.


Alan, don't try to hijack competitor threads. For more information on aksplace, please refer to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310568.0
655  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior on: October 22, 2013, 05:59:16 PM
It is not about scamming people. It is about being biased and corrupted in the sole product his site offers - his rating and review system.
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660  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior on: October 22, 2013, 03:18:42 PM

Is this something to be proud of? Anyone who comes to your site will think that you are an amateur having no actual knowledge on gambling, once he reads that you based your review on 20 BJ hands. (for which you claimed that you did over 100 here on the forum).
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