The key thing is that we have to choose. The ability to make the decision exists and its a question of what appears most sensible. What seems sensible to you seems absurd to me. My second favorite quote is "Common sense is just common, not sensible" Also, sorry if this isn't contributing anything of value to the discussion, but, does anyone else feel that these type of frustrating round and round debates that are happening here are the types that usually end up with fertilizer bombs as debate points? |
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You one of reasons I can't stay away from this forum, bbit.
Reading the bitcointalk forums - its like watching the Special Olympics!
Posting on the bitcointalk forums - its like training for the Special Olympics!
Oh, so true...  |
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The thing I was trying to drive at here is have hawker at least attempt to consider how regulation can be handled and done in the private sector, with the main core of the compulsory mechanism being financial incentive. To be blunt, I was going after the "you must understand your opponent's position before you can effectively argue against them" idea. I don't think Hawker understands his opponent's position, and thus it's just all going in circles...
Also, I prefer swords (2 tests away from black belt in Iaido and Kendo)
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b2c and fred both say that the record should not be compulsory; in other words that the bombers can get it secretly.
We know that with government regulation, bombers can and do manage to sometimes get it secretly. So, what kind of incentives would work best to make sure this regulation is better enforced? (threat of violence? financial benefits?) |
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Don't forget to attend Brazil 2014 then, hopefully without vuvuzelas and lots of samba.  Why? Do they need bombing? Jizz man! Can you calm down a bit? US pretty often looks like a sort of "hi-tech Talibans". I was kidding. Sheesh I'm not even all American anyway. The joke about Americans learning their geography is actually from Jon Stewart of The Daily show (TV) |
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*sigh*
Can you imagine how such recordation and regulation of who buys fertilizen can be applied and enforced using only private sector companies, security, and regulators, without a central taxpayer-supported government?
Yes. Why would the badge matter ? I don't get the point of your question. Can you point out where bitcoin2cash, or anyone else, said that there should be no badges, public or private, to keep fertilizer bombers under control? I still can't find that. Or has discussion gone so metaphysical into meaning of rights that it doesn't even matter any more? |
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The regulation simply records who bought the fertiliser. No farmer loses anything. The only people disadvantaged are those who want to buy vast amounts of fertiliser for non-agricultural use.
Can you imagine how such recordation could be applied and enforced entirely in the private sector? Um, fertiliser is in the private sector. The role of the state if to make it compulsory. *sigh* Can you imagine how such recordation and regulation of who buys fertilizen can be applied and enforced using only private sector companies, security, and regulators, without a central taxpayer-supported government? |
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You couldn't even afford to fix a motherboard and now you are going to server me toilet papers, from a real lawyer, in India?
Bitcoin: the most incompetent internet detectives & internet lawyers, ever Sorry to defend lawyers, but I haven't seen a lawyer on here yet. |
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The regulation simply records who bought the fertiliser. No farmer loses anything. The only people disadvantaged are those who want to buy vast amounts of fertiliser for non-agricultural use.
Can you imagine how such recordation could be applied and enforced entirely in the private sector? |
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Oh, and her stuff "will remain in storage as seeing them is too painful of a reminder" for ALL CAPS dad.
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You haven't answered the question of where you think your "rights" come from. And yes, I know that's asking the same question a different way  From our own capacity/ability to reason or from god. Take your pick (side) |
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Sorry, if you were hoping to troll, our resident Christian has been grounded for a year |
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btw do you even know what independance day is about?
Is that where England said "Screw you guys, we're going home. We have our own, more pressing French problems to deal with?" |
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Oh, hey, ignore is working. Turned it off temporarily to see if I was missing anything. Turns out nothing important. |
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A nuke that is within range is like a load gun pointed at your face. Is a loaded gun within range a loaded gun pointed at your face? Oh come on. You know a loaded nuke is pointed in a spherical direction. Think before you post like that :/ |
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"future posterity" = I just found a thesaurus.
Don't be hating on grammar/language nazis now. He supposedly reads (old) books. That's brobably where it comes from. "graciously accept" = clumsy and doesn't quite mean what you think it means. Perhaps you mean gracefully? Gratefully? Other people may view you as gracious but you cannot declare yourself such.
I think graciously, meaning kindly and courtiously, fits fine. Especially if he accepts it with a curtsie. Though I guess that could also mean in cold but indifferent politeness, if you really read into it way way too much. I am always goddamn sure of myself when I am wrong. I am happy to be wrong because I am one ounce less ignorant. I take it in pride. Go ahead, hang your head down and cry in shame when you are defeated if that what life is to you; mere suffering. I will retain my happiness and continue trying to achieve it to greater heights.
Humility is for suckers who need provisioning from the crowd. I already have the joy I need. "I take it in pride." StrideNo, I think he did mean pride there. But yes, the sentence does sound convoluted, even if gramatically correct. Frankly, though, I can't think of better words to convey the meaning of him "taking it" and "pride." |
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Don't forget to attend Brazil 2014 then, hopefully without vuvuzelas and lots of samba. Why? Do they need bombing? |
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If Ayn's dad is also the same person continuing to troll for lols, they're doing a great job of making me pour my heart out to them. Since I don't know if the situation is just a troll, or is as dire as portrayed here, I'm thinking it's better to be safe than sorry. If troll, they are continuing to be excellent in their performance.
Also, Ayn was apparently picked up by the center late last night.
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So, stop arguing about specific rights, and start arguing about the specifics of implementing the solutions?
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Laws should exist solely to protect rights.
Exactly. - The right to live when in the presence of wackos - The right to not have the Earth spoiled - The right to breathe clean air - The right to not have to be overly burdened with varying and differing policies of businesses and fees for all manner of things - The right to a consistent minimum standard of safety provided by service providers - The right to not have to engineer your own security and protection and justice system Let's see.. - protection of your own person and property, same as in libertarian beliefs - protection of property - protection of property - not sure, but that sounds like the right to stay ignorant. What is "overly burdered?" Is reading a nutrition label on food you buy 'overly burdened?" - protection of property, either contract with government or private providers of service would work here - and ditto here, since you'd be paying either a government organization, or a private one. What exactly is the difference again? |
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