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6401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN MAXIMALISM DEBATE IS A WASTE OF TIME on: January 07, 2019, 09:28:20 PM
Maximalists have done the least to propel its adoption.

What an ignorant statement.

Bitcoin is the most adopted cryptocurrency, it has more users than all other coins combined, it has hundred and thousand times more transaction activity than most other coins. Do you think that it is thanks to some "non-maximalists"?

A lot of highly valuable members of Bitcoin community are maximalists - Peter Todd, Jameson Lopp, Lightning developers and so on. They have contributed to Bitcoin's adoption much more than some crypto-noob who "believes in technology" yet doesn't understand even the most basic things and sits on a bag of shitcoins that will die in the next few years.
6402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2019-01-07] Coinbase Suspends Ethereum Classic After Blockchain History Rewrite on: January 07, 2019, 09:20:15 PM
Maybe the so-called cryptocurrency community should start listening to Bitcoin maximalists and finally realize that consensus protocol is the heart of any coin, and if it fails, it doesn't matter how good and innovative your coin is, it's doomed. Hodling altcoins long-term becomes a very risky and stupid thing, they are all under threat of getting attacked in a similar fashion, and the chances that they will skyrocket are astronomically low, because their developers just fake activity to keep selling their stash continuously. In the next few years we'll probably see similar attacks on PoS protocols.
6403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Smart Contracts indeed Smart??? on: January 06, 2019, 11:01:24 PM
Smart contracts are just small computer programs, and computers programs tend to have bugs or generally be limited. Smart contracts might be useful in cases that allow truly decentralized automation, but I've seen cases when smart contracts require trust or third parties, which is the opposite of what is promised.

Smart contracts will never replace lawyers, and they will never replace traditional contracts. It's better to think about them as a decentralized proxy between service providers and customers.
6404  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-01-05]Thousands of Banned Binance Customers Remain Cut off by the Exchange on: January 06, 2019, 08:52:00 PM
The world needs at least one exchange that doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything. That used to be BTC-e, but now we know that might have been for a reason. I wonder if anyone else will ever do anything similar.

When you get too big, you start attracting attention, and then it's the matter of time till they take you down.

I've been telling people here for a while that Bitcoin will not save countries from sanctions, back when this board was flooded with articles about Russia/Iran/Venezuela leaders discussing how they can use crypto to fool the West.
6405  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price: Analyst Willy Woo Says Bears Still Have the Upper Hand on: January 06, 2019, 06:51:00 PM
Well, the market is clearly not bullish, so it must still be bearish. Maybe we've passed the bottom, or a still very close to it, but a crazy bull rally is still far ahead, because the recovery will be slow and full of bull traps. But this only means that now is a great time to slowly accumulate, instead of trying to catch the bottom it's better to buy over a longer period of time.
6406  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Bankers Say Cryptocurrencies Do Not Threat The Global Financial Stability on: January 06, 2019, 04:46:55 PM
They can say whatever they want to say. They may see it as a shrimp for now but they'll act differently when they see its market cap starts to hit $1T or so.

Is this thread should be on Press?

Apple had $1T marketcap recently, then it crashed by 40% and guess what, the world didn't end, and even American economy didn't suffer from it. And crypto has low liquidity compared to stocks, so marketcap is even more meaningless in this case.

Crypto will not be able to threaten global economy and banks, because it doesn't have enough users. Bitcoin exists for 10 years and since the beginning people though that mass adoption is coming soon and the revolution will begin, but there's no signs of it coming. It's time to open your eyes and realize that crypto is a niche product that is not suitable for everyone and that majority of the population doesn't care about freedom or privacy.
6407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Search for "Bitcoin Core developers" on Google, the results are funny on: January 06, 2019, 03:12:59 PM
The wikipedia article on Bitcoin Core has a Bitcoin footer, inside which there's a people section which has all the mentioned people as well as others, like Mark Karpeles or Andreas Antonopoulos. So, google just pulled this list from that article, trying to be smart. It's a very well known problem with google when it shows wrong photos and unrelated people, thinking that they are relevant to the search.
Just recently I've been reading an article about woman who shares a name with a dead woman, and Google mixed up their photos in the search results, so now people think that she is dead.
6408  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-01-05]What is Facebook’s Vision for Blockchain Technology? on: January 06, 2019, 12:31:33 PM
If the fintech is to be taken seriously, the tech giant will be able to solve issues with data breaches and enhance transparency and user’s privacy.


That's a good one  Cheesy

People still don't understand that for Facebook they are the product, and that Facebook will keep selling their data until it dies. If somehow they'll manage to make blockchain work, it won't be an improvement for users, it would be the opposite, because Facebook will be able to harvest and organize user data more efficiently.
6409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2019-01-05] BitTorrent Is Launching Its Own Cryptocurrency on the Tron Network on: January 06, 2019, 12:04:21 AM

It's not exactly a new thing, platforms like Kickstarter were around for many years already.

It would be new if someone talented had the first ever 100% independent hit film/track/album. It'll happen, I've been saying this for years. Someone who's smart enough to know how good they are, and knowledgeable enough to know they can do everything them self. You don't need an industry when all the modern equipment is household grade.

It happened already, the movie Paranormal Activity had a $15,000 budget  and a $193.4 million box office. The authors sold the movie to Paramount Pictures for $300,000. If they had access to a decentralized content distribution system like the one described in the OP, they would net much more money, but probably less than those 193 millions (because Paramount Pictures dropped $10 millions on advertisement).

There are probably more cases like that, but they are rather exceptions than the rule. You can produce world-class music at home these days, but digital content like movies and games still costs millions of dollars to produce, and I don't see how those amounts can be achieved via crowdfunding in the near future.
6410  Economy / Economics / Re: Tokenization of real-world assets on: January 05, 2019, 10:59:26 PM

I suppose with tokenized assets, there's always trust involved. Even if you could use a DEX to trade tokens that are built on decentralized platforms, you still have to trust that the issuer will redeem them for real assets.

We're seeing this situation with new stablecoins like PAX. Paxos is analyzing the blockchain and freezing funds when customers attempt to deposit and redeem for real dollars. This will unfortunately become commonplace in the future. The idea of tokenized assets seems great if it means you can avoid KYC by trading on P2P or DEX markets. Unfortunately, the centralized issuer model can throw a wrench into such plans.

And this is why I'm so skeptical about many blockchain projects, they so often end up having some centralized body in its core that connects their blockchain with real world, thus defeating the whole purpose of the blockchain. After that the only good thing left is publicity and immutability, but those things are not always great - publicity means no privacy, which is bad in many cases, and immutability means that errors are permanent. This again means that blockchain has many limits and can't be slapped onto everything in this world.
6411  Other / Archival / Re: Jordan Peterson BTC Donations on: January 05, 2019, 10:41:36 PM
He is currently in a row with YouTube regarding censorship as well, over a video posted by his daughter. As such, he seems to be trying to move to a decentralized video service, and has just uploaded lots of his lectures, Q&As and interviews to BitTube. For the people who were interested in seeing more of his stuff, you can access it here: https://bit.tube/jbpeterson


It's strange for a guy like Peterson, who claims to be fighting for freedom, to cry about censorship when a private company doesn't want to have business with him. Youtube and Patreon don't have any obligations before him, they aren't government companies and they can't be counter as public space.
6412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2019-01-05] BitTorrent Is Launching Its Own Cryptocurrency on the Tron Network on: January 05, 2019, 08:12:40 PM

But content producers will get smart eventually, despite how dumb they are now.


The new model will be something like this: convince people your art/software is good by giving away something for free. Then crowdfund the release of the full product, which is copyright free once it's been funded. And why not distribute it through bittorrent when your profits are getting squeezed like that? It's easy to build bittorrent into webpages, no-one even knows they're using it.

The alternative is to pretend that it's still the 1900's. And complain about how it isn't, essentially. I'm surprised content producers aren't already bored of doing that

It's not exactly a new thing, platforms like Kickstarter were around for many years already. Sadly, they have their own problems, like scammers who blatantly scam their backers (just like in ICO's), or projects who fail to keep their promises (check out Star Citizen). Also, there's no precedent of successful crowdfunding of an AAA game or a Hollywood-quality movie yet. Crowdfunding is always the risk for consumers, because they are blindly buying something that doesn't exist.


The problem with todays content-creators is that they are too greedy, they all try to create their own platform, which makes it very inconvenient for consumers. Disney and many other producers have pulled their content out of Netflix, for example. So, in many cases people pirate not because they can't afford the price, but because they don't want to deal with all the obstacles.
6413  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-01-03] 7 Legal Questions That Will Define Blockchain in 2019 on: January 05, 2019, 03:39:21 PM

Interesting questions and interesting comments on possible solutions, but do you think that all of them can bring final answers in 2019 or it will take years for that? I think we are still quite far from some global agreements when it comes to blockchain and cryptocurrency.


It will definitely take years. I believe the reason why regulators are so slow is the same why businesses, institutions and users aren't jumping on the crypto train - people still not sure if it's a legit thing or just a bubble. Maybe regulators think that the hype around ICO's and tokens will die on its own, so it's a waste of time to work on it now.

As for the questions of the article, they are so broad that the answer to them depends on the specific details.

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Will we be able to regulate decentralized exchanges?

Some (many?) decentralized exchanged are not completely decentralized.

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Can blockchain systems comply with privacy regulations?

There are tons of blockchain systems.
6414  Economy / Economics / Re: Tesla Stock on a Blockchain allows investors to trade in USA stock market shares on: January 04, 2019, 07:47:51 PM
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Even though U.S. regulators oversee trading of DX’s initial roster of stocks, Chief Executive Officer Daniel Skowronski said he doesn’t need permission from the Americans to offer this service because DX doesn’t operate there.

I doubt that the SEC is happy about it, and they will sooner or later find a way to shut it down, even though it's outside of the US and supposedly decentralized. And overall it resembles stablecoins - you can't put some item on blockchain without having a trusted third party, so this blockchain exchange will probably suffer from the similar problems that surround stablecoins.

Also, how investors are going to receive their dividends?
6415  Economy / Speculation / Re: $3k range the new $6k range? on: January 04, 2019, 05:50:42 PM
If you look at the charts, it's pretty common for Bitcoin to get stuck in certain ranged and only fluctuate by some 5-10%. So, $3.5k is indeed one of those ranged, just because it has been more than a month in here already. It's still not clear if this is the bottom or not, so the next big price change might be either a drop to below $3k or a jump to $5k. And we can't even know when exactly it will happen, it can easily last for months, because stagnation also happens on Bitcoin markets, or maybe we'll see a change very soon. Nothing is clear at this moment.
6416  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: bitcoin lowest value of the year. Other perspective on: January 04, 2019, 04:02:25 PM
Stats like this is misleading, because it shows data that are cherry picked to fit the agenda of the poster. Yes, a long-term trader can be happy with those stats, but the short-term trader <1 year> will not be happy with these stats.

A drop from $18 000 to $3500+ is definitely not encouraging for any trader looking for a good investment.  Roll Eyes People tend to look at the long-term performance of any stock, before they consider investing and that is the only positive thing that can be taken from this stats.  Roll Eyes

You're contradicting yourself because OP's data is the long-term performance, it shows that on a scale of multiple years Bitcoin growth dramatically. It's very likely that someday people will envy those who bought at $18,000 and didn't sell, just like we today might envy those who bought at the top of 2013 bubble, because the price is 3.8 times higher today. And there's nothing cherry-picked about this data, it simply takes the lows of every year. You can even notice that there was no growth between 2013 and 2014 because of the bear market. But it only means that Bitcoin rewards the patient, which is the point of OP's post.
6417  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a better store of value than gold on: January 04, 2019, 11:22:21 AM
Wouldn't gold's physical nature be a real weakness because it could cause a "centralization in vaults" problem? How much gold can an individual legally own and store in your homes in your country?

Then there is Bitcoin. It is virtual, and it opens a world of private key ownership, and therefore, true sovereign ownership of private property which governments cannot control.


Bitcoin still has its own weaknesses. It remains very new and experimental compared to gold which was around for thousands of years. There's no guarantee that Bitcoin won't get replaced, that there aren't any hidden major flaws (just in the last year a dangerous bug was found, we just got lucky that the good guys did it first), that the underlying cryptography is 100% secure. And being digital is a disadvantage in scenarios like nuclear war.

But overall, volatility remains the biggest weakness, if not for it, Bitcoin would be very competitive with gold, because all the factors that I've mentioned are very unlikely to happen.
6418  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-01-02]AI, ML, IoT and DLT to See the Green Light in 2019, Blockchain Adopt on: January 04, 2019, 10:39:59 AM
Here's why I think that blockchain adoption is nowhere near as high as various surveys report (20% or 40%).

1. If you look at google trends, AI is always 3-4 times more popular than blockchain, yet this survey suggests that they have similar rates of adoption.

2. On stackoverflow, there are 5000 questions with "artificial-intelligence" tag vs 2300 questions with "blockchain" tag. Meanwhile questions about popular programming languages have over 1 million questions.

3. Artificial intelligence has its own stackexchange site, blockchain doesn't.

So, overall it feels like there's no as much developer activity as you would expect for a widely adopted technology.
6419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you participated in the "Proof of Keys" event? on: January 04, 2019, 07:33:17 AM

the good point in this is that it is telling people they should be in control of their own keys.
the dumb thing about it is that it is emotionally encouraging everyone to pull their money out of everywhere (mainly focuses on exchanges).

One of the reasons for this event is to test the solvency of those third party wallets. But I dunno how realistic it is, even if the event had gathered much more users.


you should NOT keep your coins with third parties in first place and if you do then you must already have a pretty good reason for it which doesn't go away just because it is Jan 3.


There are some reasons, for example daytrading. Or, like in my case, investing. I'm willingly risking with the amount I can afford to lose to get some profit. There are probably other cases that require holding coins in third-party wallets.
6420  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin, 2019 and next halving on: January 03, 2019, 09:41:06 PM
Pretty much everyone expects some sort of price growth around the next halving, and also most people have noted the cyclicity of Bitcoin's price. This might even turn into some sort of self-fulfilling prophesy when those patterns will hold true because most people will believe that they will hold true, and will act accordingly, thus fulfilling them.

However, I have some doubts that we'll have such a big magnitude (6 figures) in the next cycle. The more mature the market is, the less volatility there will be.
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