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6441  Economy / Economics / Re: Trade house for 1 bitcoin on: October 12, 2016, 11:18:33 AM
Would be nice when that happens hopefully us early adopters could fund a bitcoin city that way too. I think it is more than likely a good few years off tho
I would never trade my house in for just one Bitcoin because to me it would not be worth it unless the Bitcoin is going to be worth more then one million.
I do not see that happening so I do not think that I will ever sell my house that way.


No one will surely do that since it was totally insane thoughs for a person to trade his house for only 1 btc, not unless if his house is to little and only 1 person can occupied for it. And even if bitcoin would cost millions i would still not sell it siNce i would take bitcoin seriously and came to the point that i risk my asset just for this thing it could turn us homeless if bitcoin would go down.
6442  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why there is only a few signature campaigns on this section? on: October 12, 2016, 10:35:22 AM
I don't think that there are only a few signature campaigns here In fact the big and trusted ones are here to advertise their site. The number signature campaigns that don't last long is low cause doing and maintaining a signature campaign causes a lot of money.

Usually the ones who last long are the big companies  Wink





They don't last long since they some of them only plans for short time period since they experimenting it if they could get some huge benifit when they run a sig campaign but turns closing it down if they cannot get success. But the truth fact here is there are so many sig campaigns here the only matter for us to see is to find them in service section or locates michelle's post where we can find all list of sig campaign who's currently running.
6443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Do you prefer your money to be in cash or bitcoins? on: October 12, 2016, 09:46:53 AM
The price of bitcoin is regularly fluctuating, so you might get $100 worth of bitcoins now, $50 or $200 worth of bitcoins tomorrow, who knows? So, do you prefer a currency that is more stable, like cash (USD, EUR...), or do you treat bitcoins as a currency, for investment to let it grow?

State why you prefer your option. Smiley
For Me I Prefer the Both Cash And Also Bitcoin Because Cash is Stable Than Bitcoins So I Have My Money in Cash But For Bitcoins I Use them To Trade Altcoins Or Investing in some Websites.....
So I Prefer The Both....

Well for me i prefer cash if i needed so, since if my money is in cash form well i can actually sleep at night without worrying about the flactuation to go fall down, but also having a btc is good since we can use it to earn more money and bitcoin is flexible on such things, but i can't literally spend my money if i am not sure for certain situation since we cannot get free physical money here,
6444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins worth buying on: October 12, 2016, 09:04:55 AM
You need to reasearch about the coin you wanna invest.. some coins are pure... shit and some other have the potencial to be something special.. but this is no reason to be fool when you are investing your money you still can lose because the people maybe don't see the same potencial.

Indeed you need to think about the future it has if it has one of course and if the market can be profitable.
So long this is the fact it is worth investing in altcoins if you are asking me.
With a lot of altcoins in the market you cannot just blindly pick what to invest, you need to study them all and also consider the volume, the greater the volume the better as that would prove that people are trusting on their money with such project.

Right, investing  on altcoin  on your money would  not be easy because you would really need a good research to a certain coin when you intend to  buy it because  there are  lots of coins  which are really a waste of  money or shall we say dead coins  out there in the market. Be sure  to choose on  the potential ones.


They cannot be called dead if they are not on exchange, but its really hard to predict on who is a great potential coin and who is not, but for this matter i really don't hold some altcoins since i dam afraid for its dump, and altcoin scam scheme is the new modus of scammer nowadays since this one is thrend for the public stakers. And i am just reallying upon investment on wich is good and got huge collected funds and not intend to stake or hold for any longer.
6445  Economy / Securities / Re: Invest in gambling site (what you think) on: October 12, 2016, 08:28:09 AM
In any way, you can invest small amounts in 3-4 sites, and monitor how it goes for 1-2 months.

One to two months is very short for casino investments to give your good returns. So it is good to monitor at least few months before your decide whether you want to continue with that site or not. It is good to diversify as many as good tursted sites instead of keeping to small list of site to avoid huge loses in the long run.

I agree for investment you need to set it to long term, as i know bitcoin casino is a very profitable place to invest, of course there won't be a guarantee that you are going to make profit every time, but i believe investing in casino is worth to try, place some small investment in many places after few months see which place make profit the most then you can take out the low profit one and put it into big profit investment


It's really profitable if you select those big sites who offer investment venture and i think it is profitable platform unlike those hyips,raveshares or any what so called investmenr structure, but upon investing on those we should think also that theirs a risk upon that since it is still gambling so we can never tell that we can earn passively, but since we are on the side of the house the profit for our investment will possibly assured nor great.
6446  Other / Off-topic / Re: When is it useful to borrow bitcoin? on: October 11, 2016, 12:12:23 PM
when you know you can make a profit from it
well actually if you don't really need money and still have saving there's no point to borrow money even we can manage to make profit out of it
the interests will actually took our profit and the result we got such a small amount of profit with risking to have a loan and can't pay it back,not worth it


Totally yes having an unusefull debts is very bad since we can get an headache if we can't repay in the due time period and provabilities that our debt well be more bigger since i think the lender will surely add up some penalty if we cant pay as discuss when barrowing and that could turn to messy things if it will bloat and became bigger, thats why better think for it many times before barrowing money from other people.
6447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone to recommend good ICOs? on: October 11, 2016, 10:29:02 AM
Please suggest here good ICOs to invest and why is good.
One of the best ico's are already done you late mate make sure that when some one open opportunity just grap it, Don't mess the chance wait for another icos that can will change your life maybe there are lots of icos in market altcoin thread


They can never be late if they will wait for that what you could best to be added on exchanger, and they can buy as many as they want if these coin would join on trading site ecosystem, and im bit sure that many people are loading there guns now and waiting for that coin and stake since i know that coin you mentioned got more potential to be rise up and traders would surely love that to be happen.
6448  Economy / Securities / Re: Invest in gambling site (what you think) on: October 11, 2016, 09:28:09 AM
In any way, you can invest small amounts in 3-4 sites, and monitor how it goes for 1-2 months.

One to two months is very short for casino investments to give your good returns. So it is good to monitor at least few months before your decide whether you want to continue with that site or not. It is good to diversify as many as good tursted sites instead of keeping to small list of site to avoid huge loses in the long run.

Right, its better really to monitor the statistic of that site so we may know the flows of how the earning would be and if this site would be a good site to invest with, but actually casino's won't guarantee their investor to earn since they have still a chance to lose if their gamblers sweep the win and make theiwe investment loss, so for that we should choose wisely for better earnings and to have a safe investment.
6449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: YoBit.Net - CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE & MultiCoin DICE - Free Coins every 1-24 hrs on: October 11, 2016, 08:34:53 AM
Hello

Yobit's signature campaign still going on ??

Thanks


Yobit signature campaign is still working, but they don't accept new participants.


This is the sort of counter measure by their  management to cut off those sig spammers and abusers, thats why we can see that registration for their campaign are now closing down, but i think they are doing some good decision about it since many people are not doing some good effort to post quality one's in their behalf, but lets wait maybe there are still possibilities that they will open some slot since many of their current participants have been kicked out for their campaign.
6450  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW MUCH YOU EARN/LOSE FROM TRADING on: October 11, 2016, 07:47:09 AM
The biggest earning from bitcoin trading until now is when I trading Bitcoin - Etherium about 5 months ago and I profit more than 1,5 BTC with 2 days only.

That is pretty nice, I was able to make good profits in ethereum when it crashed due to the DAO hack and after recovering I sold some for good profits. But my investment was low. Made like 0.2 btc profit. But, profit is profit.  Smiley
That is already a good profit for an average person, despite of the low profit, it is still a blessing that we need to thank of. Of course, you will not only receive that amount if you will continue to be a trader as there are a lot of coins that will dump and pump the next thing, not only ETH, there are many if you will study.
Its not a small for me its a large profit if i had that amount i think i will spread invest it in other potencial altcoin..
That can make more profit in few months. if you just spend it for nothing you can not scale it up..

Its really hard to tell wich is the potential altcoin but we can really do some little monitoring on those who goes to be known first and its the best thinh to us if we got invested when they are giving some bunos since we can actually earn for that matter, and also i don't really find ICO coins are good to be hold for long months since those are easily manipulated by devs and some other are been turned scam if the dev will dump all their coin they have.
6451  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: October 11, 2016, 07:18:29 AM

Also their faucet which is 0.00000326 BTC is not so big and from my experience it's impossible to win more there like they claim. To tell the truth I had been winning there $0.2 in BTC several times but it was long time ago, more than a year ago to be more accurate. I think the site was sold after that and the new owners are not so generous.

Yeah their faucet is not big but at least they still pay with never delay and bad issues on their site. Compare to other faucet which has so many ads around, I think their faucet is better and they even give free ticket for lottery although their lottery system seems not provably fair
Yeah i think their lottery ticket is not probably fair, cause I am trying to win on that lottery ticket , I spend more than 0.1 in buying tickets in 5 months still no luck on winning

Have you looked at the amounts other people spend to win? Look at the lottery results history and at the amount of tickets people have bought and how much they won. There is not correlation between the amount of tickets you buy and the chance of winning, because it's totally random. < Or so they claim >


If there were, you would have the following scenario :

The winners could be bogus accounts being created and funded by the owners to win the coins. Whatever coins they push in there, will come back to them in winnings. So they only need to wait for everyone to buy tickets and then check to see what the highest amount was, and then buy more than that amount and take the big prizes and then leave some smaller prizes for people to validate that they won something from the lottery.

A Lottery can be rigged in many ways, if you have zero transparency and if you can justify that by saying that you are protecting the users privacy.  Roll Eyes   


Yeah thats what i believe so, we can't call them not provably fair really since i don't see anybody complaining for that issue maybe he just loss so much money for spending some tickets thats why he came to the point that he thinks that this site is not provably fair, but lets not closed the scene since it could possibly happen if they want to cheat their player by making some dummy accounts and choose to be a winner.
6452  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: October 11, 2016, 05:52:22 AM

Also their faucet which is 0.00000326 BTC is not so big and from my experience it's impossible to win more there like they claim. To tell the truth I had been winning there $0.2 in BTC several times but it was long time ago, more than a year ago to be more accurate. I think the site was sold after that and the new owners are not so generous.

Yeah their faucet is not big but at least they still pay with never delay and bad issues on their site. Compare to other faucet which has so many ads around, I think their faucet is better and they even give free ticket for lottery although their lottery system seems not provably fair
Yeah i think their lottery ticket is not probably fair, cause I am trying to win on that lottery ticket , I spend more than 0.1 in buying tickets in 5 months still no luck on winning


I feel that theirs something wrong regarding to that also but since theirs no complaining regarding for that matter well i can't say that they are not provably fair, and i don't usually play lottery since i think i have a curse on that since im struggling to win in that kind of game, well better luck next time maybe youre not the lucky winner at this moment, but if you think your losses is big enough well you really need to stop since it can cost you badly.
6453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 09, 2016, 01:40:29 PM
come with www.girlbtc.com

its rounds every 100 blocks  almost 1000mins

so you will have a long time between two rounds to do some thing else

and forget gambling  step by step
I dont know your purpose, if you are just promoting or really giving an advice. Im sorry but how could they quit gambling if they will play in a gambling site? If they really wanted to quit then they should make themselves busy in other things that is not connected in gambling.

OP is just advertising his gambling site not to giving any advice there, anyway gambling is always has its bad effect on our life if we play continuously or with interval but it will be much hard for any person to quit gambling if he playing there, that is why I also agreed with you anything related with gambling will lead us to get addicted.


It will very hard to quit if people resist to leave it and its all matter to the person on how he deal such things since he know the risk that he's facing before he step-in in the gambling sites, and the big factor for people to say that they are quiting if they see that they are losing,  but believe they will surely get back and play again if they can get some capital and remember to play some gambling, and thats the reason why i can say its really hard tl quit but its easy to enter on that game.
6454  Economy / Gambling / Re: Satoshimine -Best miners sweepers game... on: October 09, 2016, 12:28:33 PM
The more green you find on the 5x5 grid , the higher your multiplier.  Try not to hit any mines or your game will end.  Try this game now more profit will get in this game site. Easy to play easy to earn. Play now. -Satoshimine.com

It is easy if you are lucky because there is no strategy to win on a pure luck based game like this one. Anyway it should be on gambling discussion section. Move it or lock it because there are many other discussion like this.


Its easy to said that literally but the fact is its really hard to win on any of those gambling site nor in satoshimines, and as experience playing at that site i never win any huge amount in there since i think that site is not fair since many people said thay they have deceived and the bomb exist in every tilea they click, and i dont play at that site since i don't like the concept since i found it boring to play with.
6455  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is investing in mining still worth it? on: October 09, 2016, 11:10:26 AM
Hashnest is  a cloud mining  which i suppose  its not  ideal to invest these  kind  of  sites  or cloudminings  , achieving roi would be  so long. Its better to invest  on  your own mining  farm  itself  if you have  the money to invest but be sure  you have a cheap electricity to be profitable.
Cloud mining in general, whether legit or not legit, is not worth it with the difficulty that is constantly going higher and higher.

Even investing in your own mining farm isn't really achievable for the average person here.

In order to make some decent income from mining you should invest like $10,000-$20,000 into gear, and that is still the minimum.

In order to keep making profits you have to keep adding/investing in new hardware to not fall behind.


Mining with the bitcoin as a example is not profitable anymore.
Let me your example dude for supporting your statement if mining bitcoin is not profitable, I are need your explanation, and so give me a reliable data about it. cause too many bitcoin miners is not retire from their job.

Bitcoin  mining would   not be  profitable   if you are just  mining for  few miners only and  especially when you are  using  old aged miners and you have  expensive  electricity then you would  not be profitable at all but if you have the right  amount to invest and you have cheap electricity then it would  be profitable  to mine . Others said   mining bitcoin is  not  profitable  anymore as of today  they are somehow wrong and right, the  main thing  here is  depending  on many factors.


yes its not profitable nowadays since blocks are very difficult to find on these days and surely it will harder to find in this coming future, so overall ratings for mining on my side its totally wreck and those business is on shaddy situation and not worth it to invest with so i don't think it will be profitable again for this time, and surely those sites who offer cloudmining is scam and not worth it really to spend even a single cents in our beloved pockets.

You are right, as  the years  goes  by and the  halving event increases  the  difficulty to  mine and  blocks are much more harder to find thats why mining  arent  profitable as  of today unless you are running  lots of  it and  cheap electricity  but  if you  have expensive electricity then dont  mind to  mine after all. Cloudmining  sites are  just total scams.

I dont trust  anymore on cloudmining because  ive been scammed  recently on this  kind  of websites that  why  i would not recommend  cloudmining and also to build oyu  own  mining  farm  would be somehow expensive  because  you would  need  the latest  asic rigs miners  in able to be  profitable and  as  others said   electricity should be considered also because this is  an expense would  be deducted  on  your profits so  that you could able  to calculate your  net income.

Investing i cloud mining of any type of easy cash investments are things i try to avoid. It makes no sense to me. Because i lost quite some money now and that's why I prefer to stay away from them. And yes i can advice everybody to do the same.

As i said  earlier  cloudmining are  just total scam because they are just accumulating  money from their  investors  and  one day they would  surely ran off all of   the  money from their  members thats  why most  newbies  would fall always for this and  im not an exception on  that  since  i was a newbie way back then.


This is been talk by all of people here and cloudmining really got negative feedback for many people who experienced to invest in that kind of scheme since they know and flagged it as scam, thats why people should really listen and give some little time to read for this kind of discussion if they have plans or finding some best answer for this kind of investing scheme, and people should tag cloudmining/hyips as scam so they can save their money and not compromise by scammers.
6456  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why are you investing in Bitcoin? on: October 09, 2016, 10:40:33 AM
Btc is an innovative and it is about math. I love math and btc is a symbol about how powerful math is. I believe btc will move towards the 1k mark and even higher with more years to come.
I agree bitcoin's price will going up and it is new innovation in the world, and most important in bitcoin there is valuable into it and because of bitcoins i can become freelancer and making money via trading,mining and other ways. If there is not bitcoin and altcoins, i can not getting extra income.

It is his normal flow surely bitcoin will pump since the bitcoin's existance are wildy spreading faster for these days so provably the price of bitcoin will.be affected and goes up thats why i think we can spend a little amount to invest for long term stake and surely we can possibly earn huge profits if goodwill let the price of bitcoin stretch,

And same as you if no bitcoin existence nor altcoin i can't even earn such profit i can get for now in online world. Thats why i can call myself a lucky man to know bitcoin at this state at the right time.
6457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: October 08, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
Gambling where results are rotating even in person to person you can not just win always. Sometimes even house loose money which is unusual but can not be avoided at all. It is game of chances where who is lucky will win. Gambling doesn't work like sports matches where draw can happen. One is going to win and other is loosing and you can be anyone of these.

yeah correct. thinking that you can gamble without losing is a very silly idea. it's better to expect that you're going to lose quite an amount that to start gambling believing that you're just going to earn money


If youre expcting to lose on your bet then quite gambling, losing can make you broke and having that expactation can bring some negative vibes to us and it makes our betting more miserable since we are just doing some lazy and nasty things in gambling, i think aiming to win is the best key to earn on gambling so people could do some safe betting nor able to stop when they need it, and the thing really we need to bare in minds is no gambling can make us win always and theres no 100% provabilities that we can win on it.
6458  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins true potential on: October 08, 2016, 12:22:40 PM
Not sure what Bitcoin true potential is because to be real I do not pay any attention to that, I am only here to make some more money and noting else.
I know that people say that Bitcoin is going to take over the world but we have yet to see what will happen.

I think the true potential of bitcoin will be to reach the value over 5k and for it to be accepted globally in any shop.
This is ofcourse a big goal but that's the true potential for bitcoin and it could take very long to reach this point if ever.

even if we someday see bitcoin accepted only on the internet, meaning all the shops that have a website and are selling through there start accepting bitcoin, then the price will go to the moon. the 5K$ is just the start of it all.

Bitcoin's potential can never be predicted exactly. But when one understand its potential, then even if it falls people user won't leave because he know that sure bitcoin rises again. Possibly the price of bitcoin might get a standard value than going very high to $10000 and so on.


As you said bitcoins is unpredictable so we can't really know what will happen for it and what price will go so far, but aslong as bitcoin exist well high provabilities for us to earn more and this coin will surely got more acceptance for this incoming years as it counts. But $10000 is so huge amount for bitcoin to be reached since i don't see any trigger eventd that can make the coins price go soar for more.
6459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PSB] Pesobit, Philippine-based crypto on: October 08, 2016, 11:42:08 AM
How much is the ICO price? this should be one of the most successful ICO ever, the price is now above 10ksat

I wouldn't say it did have a successful ICO for it only accumulated few BTC, not more than 500 BTC actually. 
But one thing that surprises a lot of us here is that it got a ton of support from its users and holders doesn't seem to be dumping it. Maybe most of us expect the roadmap to be completed first before we may decide to sell.


The ico is a great start for the coin to be known and although it didn't get huge amount in their ICO phase like other coins who do collect more but pesobit is very successfull when it added on his first exchangers and look at for his current price for now you can actually say that those who bought pesobit for 300+ sats are now earning huge profit for this coin and the price surge well surely continue since devs got some great project for this coin.
6460  Economy / Securities / Re: Which online investment is good to venture in now? on: October 07, 2016, 01:50:52 PM
right now I like altcoin's ICO's. they also have risk of loosing but some of them brilliant to invest..
you can venture in a good and new altcoin's ICO..

ICO's could either make you bank or break your bank, it depends on the community support rather than the developer by itself. If the developer vanishes then the community could do a takeover while keeping the price stable.

Investing safely means that you should do you due diligence before depositing so you will eliminate as much risk as possible.

Have fun.


You could be break if your lazy upon investing on those unclear ICO's but if you select those big ICO's well i think you can earn a huge profit from it, take a look on pesobit the ICO price for that coin is @ 300+ sats and for now the price per coin is about 6000+ satoshi, and i can call this coin a great potential one since the dev team do some hardwork to bent the price to the fullest and high provabilities that the price will rise up for more.
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