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6441  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 24, 2012, 03:50:51 AM
Not every market can be an effective free market.

Cool. Let's start with you list absolutely anything you can think of that you feel cannot be a free market and that the government absolutely must be involved in and then let's get the government out of everything else. Then we can talk again.
6442  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 24, 2012, 03:43:37 AM
No, it will be vastly cheaper if privatised. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem. Also, business are accountable, because I can take my money elsewhere if I don't like their services. The government monopolises its services.
The Economic calculation problem only applies where there is a market which can be free.

Can you explain then why The USA, which has the most privatised health system of all developed nations of world, pays more per capita for it's health services than any other country?  That is only counting public spending, not private insurances.  The USA are far from the top quality wise.  Number 38 in the world on life expectancy, which is lower than even Cuba.

The private sector will organize itself to maximise profit.  This is not automatically the most cost effective way.


There are several factors, the chief amongst which is that health insurance is heavily regulated, creating high barriers to entry and suppressing competition. Employer provided healthcare also tends to lead to people not examining the actual cost of their healthcare leading to higher prices. Employer provided insurance arose, of course, from government wage control legislation.
6443  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Android miner interface on: October 24, 2012, 03:30:28 AM
I use the Android app Bitcare. It uses block Blockexplorer to monitor an address, download MtGox info to display live prices, and most importantly: can use a pools API settings to monitor mining information. I use it with Ozcoin, and displays which workers are up or down, my hashrate, accepted/reject shares, and expected payout. It's pretty handy.

The only thing it doesn't do that you might want is to be able to start a miner when ur not at the computer, but I don't know of any way to do that easily from a phone.

That is something worth looking at. There are ways I could start the miner if needed (VNC, SSH etc) so if the other functionality is already there...
6444  Other / Off-topic / Re: Block Reward Halving + BFL Equipment = What for Mining / Price In Your Opinion? on: October 23, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
Still trying to comprehend all the factors but it seems to me like there's a bit of a bubble in the whole ASIC thing. This will cause the profitability to drop off quickly as the first orders come in and are put online. This will cause the some of the asic producing companies to go out of business. Several will dump asics for cheap. ASIC mining will continue barely profitably (since ASIC production is determined solely by desire to mine bitcoins, unlike GPU production), some of us will continue to GPU mine at a marginal loss.

Have you done the math? How are you going to mine "at marginal loss" with a GPU at difficulty well over 100 million (which should easily be the case if "several will dump asics for cheap")?

No, I haven't done the numbers. So take it for what it is, a musing about the economics of mining. ASIC sales may stall as difficulty climbs (possibly quite steeply), possibly leading to not all that many on the market operating at slim profits. Without sales, there will be no more ASICs to keep pushing the difficulty incredibly higher, it will level out at being slightly profitable. GPUs are just a guess. For me, the loss would be marginal as I'm simply not using much electricity that I wouldn't be anyway and my video card is a sunk cost. I don't imagine anyone would be insane enough to keep GPU mining at a huge loss.
6445  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Android miner interface on: October 23, 2012, 07:52:52 PM
Just open a mobile browser and use any of the web interfaces (anubis, etc).  If you want user/password (digest), change cgminer API code,
recompile cgminer and point a browser at it.

Widget to display stats that are already provided by other web interfaces is kinda overkill.  Project for the sake of project.


As the browser does not put a widget on my screen next to the Bitcoin Spinner and exchange rate icons, I disagree.

It might be good to generalize it to more broad functionality though.
6446  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Another take at intellectual property - what about bitcoin private keys? on: October 23, 2012, 07:50:48 PM
And wrt to the property argument, I own my gun. Is it therefore OK to start pointing it in arbitrary directions and pull the trigger? No? Is it not my own property to do with as I wish?

It is your property to use and consume as you wish, absolutely. However, there are limits to the actions you can take without infringing on others' property rights. These limitations have nothing to do with your own property rights, and in fact it doesn't matter whether your property is involved at all. Hitting someone over the head with someone else's brick is just as off-limits as shooting them with your own gun. It's your action and the impact to their property which matter. You have an absolute right to use your own property. You don't have any right to use theirs without their permission. Any action which would infringe on the property rights of multiple individuals requires the unanimous consent of all involved.

Precisely.
6447  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 23, 2012, 07:13:54 PM

I am not the one telling you you have only one choice. In fact, I am the one opening your eyes to the other choices. Robin Hood was returning the tax to those it was taken from. Be more careful who you use as an example in the future. Pol Pot might be more to your liking.


I think latest theory is that the real Robin Hood was a thug who took the money of others and spent it. The popular fairy tale is nice though.
6448  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Android miner interface on: October 23, 2012, 07:09:34 PM
Check it out, I just finished creating a web interface to monitor and control CGMiner. http://json.karasoft.com
It would work from the web browser you already have installed on you android device.



I'll take a look. The widget may still be on the cards though.
6449  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 23, 2012, 06:27:27 PM
It all sounds so nice and agreeable and friendly. The reality was that the king was a thug who took what he wanted because he could and your new kings are thugs wearing suits.
Did you copy this from Karl Marx?

Yes, yes I did copy it from Karl Marx :rolleyes:
6450  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama issues executive order claiming power to seize Americans' bank accounts on: October 23, 2012, 06:26:41 PM

To me, a wasted vote is a vote going to a candidate that doesn't have a chance of winning, which is essentially anyone outside of the two already "approved". Voting for either Obama or Romney isn't a waste.

It's more subtle than that. Any vote an individual makes in a state which already is definitely one way or another is wasted since it can't affect the outcome. A vote for a third party sends a message that that third party has views which have some support and in a non-swing state, is possibly the most logical way to vote (assuming you don't actually support one of the big two).

Then again, if you find the current big-two candidates completely abhorrent, you may want to vote third party anyway. Really, you have to consider all the parts in play and any pat answers probably indicate a lack of thought.
6451  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 23, 2012, 05:39:34 PM
You know, I've been called a lot of things, but "commie" isn't usually one of them. Thanks, I needed the laugh. I don't live on the Kings land. I don't even live on the President's land. I live on my land. The idea that I should be paying taxes in order to live on land I own is ridiculous.

When in the Course of human events... yada yada yada.
6452  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 23, 2012, 05:38:14 PM

Why is this forum suddenly full of commies who argue against the right to property?

Nice try.
6453  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 23, 2012, 05:36:31 PM
A long time ago some king either fought for or more likely traded the land you live on.  The deal was simple.  He secured the land against threats from the outside, and often organized some form of security and justice on the inside, and your forefathers paid tax and had to serve in his army to protect all of the kings land.  The king sold the rights to exclusive exploitation of parts of the land to inhabitants, including the right to tax people using it on top of the kings tax.  But the king is still king, and everyone living on the king's land have to pay tax.

It all sounds so nice and agreeable and friendly. The reality was that the king was a thug who took what he wanted because he could and your new kings are thugs wearing suits.
6454  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Android miner interface on: October 23, 2012, 05:26:46 PM
So I've been using GUIminer for a while now and while it's perfectly a perfectly fine application, I find it doesn't totally match my needs. I'd really like to be able to monitor my hash-rate on my mobile device and to be able to start and stop the service from a widget (I often game and forget to re-enable the miner afterwards).

So I'm thinking of putting together an android widget and have a small service running instead of guiminer. The widget would communicate with the service, reporting back the hash rate, any issues and allowing the user to stop or start the actual miner client itself.

Does anyone have any input or ideas towards this? I'll announce on here when it's ready.

Edit: Just to be clear, this wouldn't mine on the Android device itself, merely be an interface to it.
6455  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama issues executive order claiming power to seize Americans' bank accounts on: October 23, 2012, 05:16:48 PM

The plans Obama has put in place during his term have a) helped get me healthcare, and b) helped lower my student loan payments by consolidating with the department of Ed. And now his JOBS Act will help to jump start my company.

Haha. Fair enough. Come back in five years and we'll see where you stand.
6456  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama issues executive order claiming power to seize Americans' bank accounts on: October 23, 2012, 05:15:37 PM
I wish I could vote for Romney...
...but since I have an above average IQ, college education, a good job, above average reasoning skills, lack of substantial amounts of money, and I live in a diverse northern State, looks like I'm going to stick with Obama.  Cheesy

So, you have all those things going for you, and still you vote for Obama? I believe you're lying about, at minimum, the IQ and reasoning skills.

But at least by voting for Obama, he can lock in the "lack of substantial amounts of money".
6457  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: here's just how screwed ASIC buyers are - READ THIS if you have a preorder on: October 23, 2012, 04:29:04 PM

Huh I'm going to be burning 1-2Gh/W compared to .01Gh/1W with an FPGA single. This is wasteful? Huh

Sorry, that was a little ambiguous. I mean that running against testnet is wasteful (assuming that you are reasonably confident that your operations will be valid).
6458  Other / Off-topic / Re: Block Reward Halving + BFL Equipment = What for Mining / Price In Your Opinion? on: October 23, 2012, 04:18:49 PM
Still trying to comprehend all the factors but it seems to me like there's a bit of a bubble in the whole ASIC thing. This will cause the profitability to drop off quickly as the first orders come in and are put online. This will cause the some of the asic producing companies to go out of business. Several will dump asics for cheap. ASIC mining will continue barely profitably (since ASIC production is determined solely by desire to mine bitcoins, unlike GPU production), some of us will continue to GPU mine at a marginal loss.
6459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Don't secure the internet, it needs crime on: October 23, 2012, 03:42:06 PM
Yah - this guy doesn't understand much at all.

Crime doesn't stimulate anything. . . see 'broken windows fallicy' 

Also he's incorrect about saying it isn't scalable. Linear costs very scalable - having a fixed cost per user/customer is measurable and easy to define a business case for or against. Most service industry business is linear and scalable... see 'premium tech support'


Completely. Just goes to show that just because you're smart, doesn't mean you're not dumb.

As to an alternate internet, unless you're looking for redundancy, there's no reason you couldn't run a separate network on top of the existing internet. A while back I considered the idea of special routers you could plug into your internet connection to allow religious groups (or other interested parties) to create a completely "separate" "internet" only accessible to others with similar ideals and beliefs if provided with a key from a central authority. Not my bag though.
6460  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 23, 2012, 03:15:52 PM
By being born there, you are signing.

Bullshit.
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