I choose not to hard fork and to thrive. Dump it if you want to, there are 50 people in IRC that are ready to sweep up the floor

Here's a hint. The coins with the loudest cheerleaders are always the worst buy

No. It's been there since the start. The timestamp was set to Christmas of this year instead of Christmas in 2020. I messed up a timestamp between MMXIV and BALLS. It's also in MMXIV for Aug 15th. Can be kept or changed, depending how BALLS reacts

Not even close to the same system. Ours is guaranteed staking once you pass the threshold, they encourage competition for stakes

Yes. It may stake earlier than that. Honestly, I don't know what to suggest doing other than just hold and see what happens

You can use the same one. Each deposit is calculated individually

Lol, a hard fork of any kind is what I'm trying to avoid

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Just so everyone knows...we are going to keep what we have going on right now, for a little while at least

This was caused by a protocol switch. I had intended to set the timestamp to Christmas of 2020, but instead did Christmas of this year. I messed up one entry in the entire coin; sucks, but it happens. However, while unintended, I think we are going to leave it as it is. The reasons are simple

1) We already have hardware units shipped out that are staking with the current code. Forcing them to update within a month of getting their unit could compromise their staking time if they don't see it right away, which completely eliminates the purpose of the Snowball Staking Hardware

2) People are still staking. Blocks are still flowing. The network hasn't come to a halt, so no immediate emergency

3) I've done some math on what greater affect this will have on the coin. I believe it will increase blockchain security with the new calculation method, while giving us yet another tool to use for inflation control by changing how stake weight is calculated. Stake rate remains unchanged once you start staking; the change has affected when you start, not how you stake

4) I don't feel like dealing with people who get left behind because they didn't update. Somehow this is always my fault to people and I just don't want to deal with it again


What is this coin now?
Good question. From my understanding, the way stake weight is calculated has changed. I moved all my coins yesterday before finding this, so I will be able to tell you guys how long it takes to mature from nothing now. It would appear that maturity time has been increased, but once you start staking, you're in the same boat you were before Christmas. It would also appear that you actually start gaining coinage after 24 hours, but will not stake immediately. This is where the analysis takes two turns. I am under the impression that it will now require 30 days for coins to mature, while the other person assessing the situation with me doesn't think it will affect maturity times or stake rate too much, so I guess we will see what happens. If people weren't staking and the network halted, I would fork it immediately, but since neither of those has happened, I think we will roll with it for the time being. I will update the OP to be more accurate once we have more data to analyze. We also seem to be ignoring max coinage, which, again, will need to be verified by further analysis a month from now since I just reset my coinage yesterday to try debugging what other people were experiencing

My suggestion:
If you are actively staking, don't move your coins. If you haven't staked since the week before Christmas, I recommend moving them once as soon as possible, then not moving them ever again


I'm expecting a lot of negative feedback for this decision, but it is no secret BALLS was created for the sole purpose of helping us with Snowball Staking Hardware and customers of those units. Without alienating a good portion of our customer base with a hard fork, I am choosing to go down a path that ensures people using our hardware are not negatively impacted by having to update / chance of not updating and losing coins

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It's only broken if your goal is to hold for 2 days and dump. If you're in it long term, this whole fiasco means nothing to you

It is based on coinage. They held long enough to stake with the new parameters. My coins are also not staking right now, either, so I feel your pain

Depending which coin you copied, protocol.cpp is most likely

Neither am I

I am aware there is an issue. If you've been staking in the last few days, don't move coins and just wait. You will continue to stake

Both are ok, they are both version 1.0.4

Lol, well this one had an unexpected drop in the middle somewhere

It was an honest mistake. Nothing malicious is intended for either coin. I have far more riding on both of these coins than any of you guys do, I promise you that. I have a shitty situation with no good solution. No matter what I do to respond to this, someone is going to be pissed. As an actual business owner, I have to provide the best experience I can for actual customers, those that bought the units, which unfortunately affects people that are not customers to our company, but are still involved in the entire project

This choice for me is simple. Protect long term holders, whether on a desktop or our units doesn't matter...fuck the people trying to stake for a day and dump. We are able to achieve a solution that is good without having to fork it and have people update or get left behind. It's a good solution long term. If you believe me and trust my judgement, now is the time to buy and hold. If you disagree or think I'm an idiot, that's fine, volume is still volume, even if it's on the sell side

I only deleted your posts that have no relevance. You deleted some of your own, too. Btw, had you sent me the coins for losing the bet, I was going to send 500k back to you for being honest. Just sayin

This change is also in MMXIV for August 15th, 2015. I checked this morning. That will most likely not be allowed to go through, unless it proves very successful with BALLS in the long term

There is another update to the protocol in exactly 6 months currently in the code for BALLS. This one started a chain reaction to enable one more, so sometime in the next 6 months we will evaluate whether or not that one will be allowed to go live. Right now is not the time to open a second can of worms

It doesn't matter if you are on a desktop or our unit. The timers are exactly the same, and you have a very limited understanding of what is actually happening, since I already proved your 480k BALLS bet wrong yesterday and you never paid    Now shut the fuck up until you have a basic knowledge of cryptos

Look, there are some really good changes here that we can leave implemented without requiring everyone to update to a hard fork and continue using their current client. We have people using the normal one, Christmas theme, daemons, there is a lot to update away from something that will only strengthen this coin long term. Two months from now, nobody will even remember that I fucked up big time. Basically, from my understanding of the situation, it boils down to this:

If you are holding this coin, believe in it, me, and our work, this change does NOT AFFECT YOU AT ALL. Since you would be already staking for over 30 days, literally nothing changes for you

If you are trying to buy this coin, stake it for a few days, and dump it...well, you're fucked

The first 24 hours can be closed, but I suggest leaving it open as much as you can after the first 24 hours have elapsed