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6481  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 28, 2021, 03:15:26 AM
I thought that you have because you keep insisting that people shouldn't stop reminding someone to stop if they've been already reminded for a long time. There really are people that are existing like that but everyone has their own limitation and won't stay for that long.
That's the reality of life, they won't just stay for you because there are other things to focus with their time and attention.
No, I do not have a person like what I describe but I have friends who almost like that and I am happy and grateful that they still giving their support to me and I also give the same to them. Well, life is not perfect, but we make it perfect with our friends.

When we won something in our life, we can celebrate with them, and if we lose something, they will beside us and help us not too sad.

When the first try you looks easy to win but after few time giving betting site you loss all your money, I think enough how much money loss so far in betting site, there are never have chance for you to get win more and earn profit in betting. Although you an expert in betting site never have any chance for you to win always.
At the first time, people can win easily from the gambling games, but for the next rounds or days, they will not win easily as before because that is just an attraction from the casino to make you back to their place. When you continue playing in their place, that is the sign for them that you are curious about the games and the winning to serve you better to give you a good experience in their place.
6482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 27, 2021, 03:40:04 PM
Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.
I guess not. The best friend can be tired but that does not mean they will stop remind us and take care of us. But we must realize by ourselves that we break our limit and make our best friend feel tired. If we can not have those feeling, our mind become hard like a rock. That means we are in a heavy addiction without having a chance to admit that we need help.
Maybe that is the last thing that we can do for them, and the rest will be up to them.
I don't know what to say if there are people like that that will care for you until the end even if you're too hard-headed and keep on ignoring their reminder.
Well, if you have that kind of friend, it's a gem.
Although I do not have people like that, I am sure that person really exists and really cares about his best friend and will do anything for the relationship. Yes, it is like we found a gem and we must not let that person go away from beside us. We really need a person like that to help each other because having a friend like that will be a blessing to us.
6483  Other / Off-topic / Re: Corruption and Sports on: April 27, 2021, 02:42:49 PM
What I think is that cases like these have became isolated. And for those who are risking their sports career and have no choice be involved on it are really forced due to those reasons and other management issues that they've found.

It's only an isolated if the league will not make a serious action on this, they maybe are trying to protect their reputation without knowing it will only make this kind of activity to spread in the league, and people will slowly loss their trust on the league especially the advertisers which usually gives a good amount for the success of the league. you know, reputation really matters a lot and they need to protect it.
Reputation does matters and that's why a league's management are getting rid of it as much as they can and, as soon as they've found out that something like this existed.
But hopefully, most of these corruptions and sell outs won't happen anymore in bigger leagues that we've used to follow because their following are really high and they know how huge the fan base they have in the world.
Although eradicating the corruptions is not easy, we need to be sure that someday that thing can eliminate from sports so people and fans can enjoy the match without any fixing match from the corrupt people.
It is a big job from the clean officers to investigate all people who corrupt in sports, and that will need time to reveal all of the things in the public. Hopefully, everything will solve in the right time.
6484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fate or lack of control - Gambling on: April 27, 2021, 01:26:48 PM
Indeed! there's no regret as beforehand they'll knew that consequences .

There are many options if you straighten your mindsets, gambling as for the sake of fun should have limitation. It helps to prevent making big mistakes and losing huge amount of money.

Understand that whatever action you take it reflects to your personality, best to assess and keep your control over your gambling activities.
Yes, it is. The important here always have limitations and never break that for our own good. Once we forgot about that, our life will be in trouble. I agree that we should have a good mindset in gambling and we should have control for ourselves so that it will help us lose money.

There are many options if you straighten your mindsets, gambling as for the sake of fun should have limitation. It helps to prevent making big mistakes and losing huge amount of money.
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The solution to this is quite simple, you have to see gambling for what it is: a hobby that costs money (and in the very unlikely event can lead to you making a lot of money from it).

Personally, I control this, for example, through a fixed amount that I spend per month on my hobbies (cinema, ... but also gambling). Once this amount is reached, I no longer gamble. In some months I get out with a plus and then take it with me for the next month, where it is then mostly gambled away again Wink
That will need more control to be like you but you did a great to limit yourself in gambling. That is a simple plan on what we want to do with our money and if the amount is reached or we still have some amount for that month, we do not have to spend more instead, we can save it back to our wallet. And if we can win from gambling, that will be a bonus for us. It is hard to limitations but worth learning about limitations to not get into trouble in the future.
6485  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet, Stake or Sportsbet - Which is best? on: April 27, 2021, 12:11:54 PM
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I did try it myself before when I've got asked to do so to withdraw it. Just as enjoying it for fun which has been always been said but when it comes to being asked to comply, you've got no choice but to follow it if you want to take your money with you.

Yes, people will not feel difficult to verify their account and they will do anything to get their money, including their win money. Many of us have that experience in gambling sites, and they follow the rule from the site to withdraw their money.

I do not bet on the sports betting site, so I think it will depend on each person to try to use Cloudbet, Stake or Sportbet. Maybe if they can try one by one of that sports betting, they will know the differences as I do not know too much about that. But if that is about playing a regular gambling game such as dice, Plinko, blackjack, mines, crash, wheel, baccarat and else, you can try with Stake. Many of us think about KYC, but if you use gambling to have fun, you do not have to think or verify your account because you do not intend to make money from gambling.
You never bet on sports betting? Why you can advertise a sport betting site then? Stake is popular with their sport betting compared other games they have.
KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?
I do not know much about sports betting and if I want to bet on sports betting, I can ask my friends to place the bet for us because he is more familiar with sports betting than me and he can have a bigger chance to win. I prefer to playing gambling in an easy gambling game such as dice, crash, wheel, mines, and that game is available on Stake. But with the increase of bitcoin price, I am trying to reduce my gambling time and save income for a while and wait for the bitcoin price to increase more.
6486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC price VS gambling on: April 27, 2021, 05:54:41 AM
Also, IIRC, Sportsbet does process BTC withdrawal before free of charge, I'm wondering if they are still doing the same now.
I didn't find any update on whether they still provide free withdrawal fee during the increase in transaction fee. Many sites make change and they may still adjust their fee if they are too high.

Gamblers will BTC maybe be discouraged to deposit Bitcoins but they will also be discouraged to withdraw their BTC funds, so they will have to let them on the gambling platforms and hence to gamble them there, that's why these high transaction fees are not a real bad thing for crypto casinos in my opinion.
Meanwhile, we will be hearing a lot of complaint coming from players wanting to withdraw and deposit bitcoin to the site due to transaction fee. If the estimated withdrawal amount include only transaction fee, it's worth spending everything there hoping to win something bigger.
Yes but I don't think casinos are targeting this kind of gamblers when they settle high withdrawal fees because if they are unable to withdraw their funds, those small gamblers won't come back again and won't deposit anymore funds there. I think casinos are mostly targeting average gamblers by doing that, because the average gambler won't stop to deposit just because of that but will be more reluctant to withdraw oftentimes.
But they need to withdraw their money sometimes, especially if they can win a lot of money. The casino itself will adjust the withdrawal fees related to the current situation. But we can not deny that the fees to withdraw bitcoin becomes too high. With bitcoin price now coming back to $53k, average gamblers will use the other coins besides bitcoin to prevent the fees that can back to the high again. The casino will understand that situation and maybe they will add the other low coin price to help the gamblers deposit the coin.
6487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: April 27, 2021, 04:59:34 AM
Yes, indeed. It really makes me happy when bitcoin drops a bit before the manager calculates the weekly payments for the signature campaign. I know it's not much, but still. It will be good to see that I received more than expected when the price resumes its upward trend.
With the bitcoin price now is down, you can get more satoshi than usual, and if you can hold it for a while until the price can back increase to $60k, you can make more money by selling the bitcoin. But if you use that income to gamble and lose, that can not make you have the money. But I guess some people will convert their bitcoin into an altcoin to still play gambling without thinking about the price.

Yeah, people have different mindsets in this industry and most of them will not have any patience to hold because they only have few sources of income and the pandemic is worsening in some parts of the world especially India. as you can see, some of the holders rush to get their money to spend because things are not going easy for them this time. some of the people have not yet decided to withdraw their BTC due to some hope that the price in the market will likely rise again after this event.
I am shocked to see what happened in India. The news on television or the internet gives an image India now has new mutations of the pandemic.

I am sure the holders have their reason why they can not hold longer. But I guess many of them have an urgent need to be filled, so they sell some bitcoin they have to solve the urgent thing. But I am sure they still hold the rest of bitcoin in their wallet and wait for the bitcoin price increases.
6488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fate or lack of control - Gambling on: April 27, 2021, 03:33:12 AM
For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.
Those people do not have confidence in themselves, so he counts on unseen forces that are unnecessary. They can not see that they actually have their power to do something other than just playing gambling to make money. They do not realize that life is not just for having fun, but we also need to try to do something and change our lives better. When they lose their money in gambling, that will be their mistake and they should not regret it because that is the consequence of playing gambling.

You'll never feel bad if you are a responsible gambler, being responsible makes you understand the risk and reward in gambling, and more so the risk since most gamblers are losing money, that's the reality we can't deny, and as evidence, their industry is growing that we can ever imagine.

All we do is be honest with ourselves, we can't beat the house if that's our intention, but we can be lucky sometimes and that's the reward in gambling.
We do not have to worry about the risk of gambling if we are responsible gamblers. But many gamblers can not be responsible gamblers and lose their money shortly. That is because they lack control and not being responsible for what they do in gambling.

Yes, when we can accept that the house will win in the end, we do not have to play gambling for a long time. And if we want to play gambling, just play for having fun and not think about trying to win the house because that will not easy.
6489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 27, 2021, 02:47:30 AM
It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.
If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.
Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.
I guess not. The best friend can be tired but that does not mean they will stop remind us and take care of us. But we must realize by ourselves that we break our limit and make our best friend feel tired. If we can not have those feeling, our mind become hard like a rock. That means we are in a heavy addiction without having a chance to admit that we need help.
Maybe that is the last thing that we can do for them, and the rest will be up to them.
6490  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 26, 2021, 07:18:19 AM
We're blind to look at ourselves if we're about to become addicted. We're excited and we don't care about the surroundings and what's matter to us is that we're enjoying and we keep doing what we want to do and just as the other reasons of addicted gamblers, they wouldn't care what others will say to them as long as they're pushing what they think is right and what they like to do.
We are excited to play gambling, so we do not want to listen to others and think that they are talking too much about us. But if they care for us, they will not stop to tell us to stop and get out of the place.
It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.
If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.
6491  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price end of year? on: April 26, 2021, 06:32:28 AM
I'm not thinking about to be having correction on monthly basis but unfortunately right now we are into a big correction phase still I am hoping for bouncing back of bitcoin prices toward a new ATH above $70k price levels very soon. As per many people are speculating there are good chances for bitcoin prices to get doubled from here.

Honestly I'm expecting more than $100k by end of this year. Because we are already more than half of that as current ATH so there are plenty of chances for bitcoin prices to be testing more than $100k by the times of end of this current bull run.
Finally, the bitcoin prices bounce up to $52k after a big correction.
You saw bitcoin price struggle hard yesterday and now, the time for bitcoin to increase already comes. But we do not know if this situation will continue or it will get another correction. The price will reach $72k soon but we still do not know when it will come.

I also hoping bitcoin reach more than $100k but we can not expect that will happen soon because we do not know where the market will moves. What we can do this year is trying to make a profit many times, especially if the market starts the rally.

I think that is a big of a task for many people, specially people like me. I mean I would love to buy at the low price and sell at the high price before it crashes and buy again after the crash and keep doing this until the 100k price. However I know myself, I will end up putting money at the top and selling at the low, end up losing money while everyone is making a profit.

I have tried trading, still do trade with small amounts (unimportant, tiny, like 100$ or so) and I can tell that I rarely ever make a profit from it. This is why I think it is obvious for someone like me to  just buy and hold, that way I can make 2x very easily without working or doing anything, just let it be. This works even if we are wrong, even if price doesn't go to 100k this year, it eventually will go there, all I have to do is... nothing, I literally have to do nothing, just wait and it will be there one day.
Yes, buy and hold can be a solution for people who can not trade better like other traders. I use that way too if I can not analyze the coin or bitcoin moves out of my expectations. I prefer to buy at a low price and hold it than to trade because I know the risk of losing the money, so I prefer to play safe.

That will okay if you do that because we will select what way to make us feel comfortable without getting confused about how and what we need to do. We can still make a profit in the end, although we do not do something but still, we can take profit like other people.
6492  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin do the same scenario in 2018 ? on: April 25, 2021, 02:52:30 PM
i am wondering if Bitcoin will fall again like it happened in 2018 after the Bull run !
even in this time the price raised too much faster in shorter time.
last two days Bitcoin price felt 10000 $
i know that some news affect the market, but should we sell now in this panic ! or should we hold  Undecided
i am a little bit confused
Weak hands will sell their bitcoin as fast as they can because they think bitcoin will end soon. But if you still believe in bitcoin, you will not impact your bitcoin unless you hold on tight the bitcoin until the price increases more. Instead of selling your bitcoin, you have a big chance to buy more bitcoin at a low price and do not care about the news because the news will confuse which people you can follow. You should calm down and do not panic about the news,
6493  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 25 arrested after Rab busts mini casino in Ashulia!! on: April 25, 2021, 01:42:15 PM
There are many restrictions in Bangladesh Cryptocurrency is illegal gambling is illegal people will find a way to do what they like they are publishing this to scare people who still gambling, people will find a way to gamble, this is just the tip of the iceberg there are still many hidden or underground gambling places and there are many playing online.
That is why the underground gambling places will still operate freely because people can find a way to gamble in hidden places. The government will not be easy to search for that places because the place will not share with the common people and only people who are often playing gambling will know the place. The illegal casino itself will be selective to invite the gambler who can play on their place because they are really strict to select the gambler. Arresting those people will not stop the illegal casino in many countries unless the government can catch the boss.
6494  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price end of year? on: April 25, 2021, 12:43:47 PM
i believe even if bitcoin drops a bit in a month, bitcoin will still hit 100k by end of year! let me know what you guys think
It could be possible for bitcoin to hit $100k by the end of the year. But before bitcoin go to that price, we might see many corrections will happen every month, so we need to be careful and prepare to buy bitcoin at a low price. But at this moment, we need to have the patience to wait for a while as bitcoin price now is not increasing so high and could get down for more. But we should be happy to see this year many companies will invest in bitcoin to boost bitcoin adoptions growth.
6495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 25, 2021, 11:51:06 AM
Most of the time, it's the other people who see and observe your behaviors.

Not common to a gambler to see his addiction, most of us if not all are always in denial, we keeps saying that we are just having fun but we already losing amont of money that more than we think we can spend to this activities.

Always better to listen if there's concern people who advise you to stop and find other sources of entertainment.
I hope that we can listen to others to know what is a change in ourselves and we are not too late to stop that before everything is ruin. A gambler will find it hard to see his addiction because he washed away in the enjoyment of gambling games while other people will clearly see the difference.

We can win today, but we can lose the next day, so we need to be careful in the gambling games and always manage the money before we lose all of the money.

We're blind to look at ourselves if we're about to become addicted. We're excited and we don't care about the surroundings and what's matter to us is that we're enjoying and we keep doing what we want to do and just as the other reasons of addicted gamblers, they wouldn't care what others will say to them as long as they're pushing what they think is right and what they like to do.
We are excited to play gambling, so we do not want to listen to others and think that they are talking too much about us. But if they care for us, they will not stop to tell us to stop and get out of the place.
6496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has the world become greedier since BTC? on: April 25, 2021, 10:05:58 AM
Greedy is a human trait that has existed since time immemorial. And this trait of course cannot be eliminated, it can only be controlled.
Regarding Bitcoin which has an impact on increasing Greediness, maybe so. because some people will even do anything to get instant profit from Bitcoin. But of course, no process is instant. With hard work and also awareness of the meaning or meaning of Bitcoin will make us more aware of this positive effect of Bitcoin.
If they are trying to get instant profit, they will not get that unless they are at the right time. Nonetheless, only people who can learn bitcoin and how to get bitcoin correctly will get what they want in the future. Everything that we want will have a process, and we should understand that time will answer it for us.

Greedy can be controlled, but that will need an effort to learn how to control the greedy.
6497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wyoming legalized online sports betting - crypto wagers allowed too on: April 25, 2021, 09:02:22 AM
It depends from how the gambler can limit their expenses while inside the gambling house, whatever currency you are using without limitations
you'll find yourself losing a lot.

Better in the sense that you know how much money you are using since crypto keeps changing in value,
with USD you'll be able to know if you already exceeding from your budget.

You can convert vice versa and it's all about how you understand everything.
Many gamblers can not limit their expenses while they are playing gambling. If they see they lose and the money is not much, they will deposit some amount and continue playing gambling. If a gambler can limit their money, and let say, they will only use $20 every time they gamble and convert it into btc or altcoins, and they will use a limit that no matter if the coins amount still available on their wallet or not, they can stop gambling.
6498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fate or lack of control - Gambling on: April 25, 2021, 07:10:29 AM
For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.
Those people do not have confidence in themselves, so he counts on unseen forces that are unnecessary. They can not see that they actually have their power to do something other than just playing gambling to make money. They do not realize that life is not just for having fun, but we also need to try to do something and change our lives better. When they lose their money in gambling, that will be their mistake and they should not regret it because that is the consequence of playing gambling.
6499  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet, Stake or Sportsbet - Which is best? on: April 25, 2021, 06:17:03 AM
Many of us think about KYC, but if you use gambling to have fun, you do not have to think or verify your account because you do not intend to make money from gambling.
Thinking about it is important because how will you enjoy and have fun if by the time you've decided to withdraw, they're going to ask you for KYC and you don't intend to withdraw and just put a budget for losing? enjoying and gambling has been hackneyed. Because there really are gamblers who make money from it.
First, they only want to enjoy their time in gambling. Second, if they win big money, and they see the KYC is needed to withdraw that money, I guess they will try to verify themselves because that is big money. People's eyes will open so wide when they see big money, and they willing to do KYC while the first time, they do not want to do KYC. You can try by yourself Grin

Yes, I am sure some gamblers make money from that gambling games.
6500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 25, 2021, 05:25:29 AM
I agree that doing something besides gambling can prevent them from becoming addicting to gambling and they do not have to try playing gambling.
That will put your attention into other things and it's mandatory if you're finding yourself that's already going to become addicted in gambling. It's not that easy but if you want to solve it, you have to revert your attention into other things because it's one of the easiest solution that you can do to help yourself.
Sometimes, we can not see if we become addicted to gambling because when someone feels excited about something and they do that many times, he will not think about the effect. But other people will see if we become addicted because something changes to ourselves. In this way, if they really care about that person, they can tell him or ask him to do other things so that person can distract his mind not to think about gambling.
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