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6501  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Pandangan negatif terhadap para pengguna crypto on: June 26, 2019, 03:11:42 AM
~snip~

Ya tidak masalah sih disini kan sebagai bounty hunter juga bisa di bilang sama saja perkerjaan, saya melihatnya seperti kita mempromosikan suatu proyek.
Di cryptocurrency juga bisa trading yang sama halnya seperti berdagang dan itu pun tidak selalu untung juga bisa rugi.

Tidak perlu diquote semua gan, cukup ambil bagian yang mau dikomentari saja.  Wink

Kamuflase saya agar tidak jadi perbincangan di antara tetangga saya membangun lapang Futsal yang disewakan per jam nya, padahal penghasilan saya hampir 80% dari crypto  Cool

Membuat sebuah usaha/bisnis real seperti membangun lapangan futsal, saya kira bukanlah kamuflase, tetapi adalah salah satu goal dari pekerjaan crypto kita. Saya pun punya tujuan seperti itu, yaitu mengkonversi sebagian hasil dari pekerjaan bounty, trading, atau investasi ke bisnis real.

menurutku pandangan postif dan negatif pasti adalah gan namanya desentralisasi otomatis masih banyak yang meragukan,

Saya kira tidak hanya desentralisasi, sentralisasi pun ada pro dan kontranya.

Pandangan positif dan negatif itu akan selalu ada dalam hal apapun, karena setiap individu punya cara masing-masing dalam melihat sebuah objek.

Terkait apakah seseorang itu akan berpikir positif atau negatif, itu tergantung dari :

(1.) Sisi mana yang dia lihat  
(2.) Pengetahuan dan pengalaman yang dimiliki
(3.) Pengaruh lingkungan sosial dan media  

Khusus untuk pandangan negatif, umumnya itu karena pengaruh FUDs yang meliputi beberapa hal berikut :

(1.) Isu-isu
(2.) Legalitas
(3.) Volatilitas
(4.) Dll
6502  Economy / Speculation / Re: New High... For Everything. What'll happen next? on: June 25, 2019, 11:54:23 PM
~snip~ Bitcoin breaking the 10,000 dollar mark again.

FYI, Bitcoin price is already about $11,710 this time. It is a bit surprising for me that the positive trend in Bitcoin price continues after it breaks $10,000. Well, a possible correction may happen in the near future but I assume it won't drop below $11,000. The Bitcoin price movement looks like still in the same patterns so far. [IMO]
6503  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you gamble? on: June 25, 2019, 11:19:58 PM

For me, I gamble for fun and entertainment. I’m not a fun of gambling aiming to win the big jackpot or make a potential profit.

It seems you tend to be a gamer than a gambler. I don't blame you with your own purpose in playing gambling since everyone has their own expectation. But I think only a few gamblers that playing for fun only and not expect to win. Most of them expect to win and get money by playing gambling. It is normal, they won't spend their time for fun only.
6504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] Reflexion Token Phase 1 - $375K in Rewards on: June 25, 2019, 11:04:27 PM
Reserve for Indonesian translation [ANN+Bounty Thread] and moderation.
My Portfolio : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LSaa4gIIm15v4xkrTyR5WqB3aPnaD5zzusON57Rs0_s/edit#gid=0
6505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: governments vs altcoins on: June 25, 2019, 12:16:54 AM
The governments may see the cryptocurrencies from several negative sides. First is about the issues of using crypto for money laundry and ignore the tax. Crypto is also considered as a manner of terrorist utility. ANd crypto is also considered as a factor of the unstable financial system of a country. however, aside from the negative sides, actually cryptocurrencies have many advantages. And here, governments are better to consider these advantages. Such as increasing their social financial level, easy transaction, high technology, and others. In this case, should be certain understanding and regulation between government and token holder in the country. And now, in fact, some countries or governments legalize crypto.
6506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin for next crypto bull season? on: June 24, 2019, 11:57:14 PM
I think all popular altcoins will have a chance to rise significantly at the upcoming bull time. Ethereum, Tron, Cardano, BNB coin and other top altcoins should be good choices to buy. But for sure, you should have your own choices based on your own research and experiences. For me, Ethereum is still my best choice to hold.  Wink
6507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should we boycott the Facebook Coin (Project Libra)? on: June 24, 2019, 11:49:17 PM
Don't be panic with the current situation. Why don't just monitor the progress of the coin firstly? We cannot judge the negative impacts of Libra while it seems to bring positive influence to the rise of Bitcoin value. Moreover, a call for boycott seems difficult to succeed. I doubt if it can impede the interest of millions of people to buy it.
6508  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ (Member-Hero Accepted) (New) on: June 22, 2019, 12:53:51 AM
Do you accept the member son?

What do you mean, mate?
If you are asking about a slot for member rank, then you should read what Hhampuz said above. "No position available for new participants".


No more open positions!

Just come again and apply only when he stated "new positions open"  Wink



Anyway, you are still in Junior rank. Why you are asking about member rank slot?  Huh
6509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BNB Finally On KuCoin!! on: June 20, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
Very interesting news to know these two competing exchanges work together. Well, Binance is the rival of Kucoin, and now, BNB from Binance coin is listed on KuCoin. But, it is true to state that rival may be always rival, but business is business. As long as the business or relation will lead advantages for two sides, why not? Let's see how the people or token holders will be interested in this situation.
6510  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty dengan alokasi besar apakah menurut anda menghasilkan uang besar. on: June 20, 2019, 11:11:57 AM
~snip~
ane tanya apa akah agan slma ngebounty pernh mendaptkan hasil ssuai waktu yang agan lakukan sebanding ga?
mksdn saya itu sama yang agan katakan kalimat terakhirnya  Smiley

Apakah menurut agan sebuah pertanyaan, lazim dijawab dengan pertanyaan juga??
Saya sarankan untuk lain kali, sebaiknya menjawab pertanyaan dengan sebuah jawaban, bukan dibalas pertanyaan juga.
Oya, ini agan hanya menjawab "sama dengan kalimat saya yang terakhir", ini jawaban dari pertnyaan saya yang mana? Ada 2 pertanyaan di atas.  Huh
6511  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ | Up to 0.0375 BTC/w on: June 19, 2019, 11:29:26 PM

I don't know what is happening here. It seems like a meme war or meme contest. As far as I understand, this thread is for applying ChipMixer signature campaign, not for meme posts. Will DarkStar_ change the title for adding a new meme campaign?  Grin Grin
6512  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do you gamble? on: June 19, 2019, 10:41:39 PM
Gambling is not my habit but when I play gambling, sometimes only for fun but on another chance to get potential profits. Both the purposes are possible for me and I think not only me, but other people also may think the same as me. Anyway, regarding a big jackpot, I assume to not really hope for that thing to solve debt problems. A chance to win big jackpots is not quite high, so just fix the debt problems from another fund source.
6513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen to delisted Alt Coins on bittrex, Binance and Poloniex? on: June 19, 2019, 10:28:55 PM
I'm sure that the delisted altcoins from bittrex, Binance and Poloniex because of some factors. And the most crucial factors may be the low trading volume, low interest, and also low trust from the investors itself. And, the right decision should be taken by the exchanges in order to keep their exchange trust from the investors, members, and also traders. I think it is normal to decrease shitcoins or low-quality coins.
6514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sell All Altcoins For Bitcoin? on: June 19, 2019, 10:20:24 PM
Well, converting the altcoins to be Bitcoin may be a good way in order to decrease the chance for falling. However, we should also know exactly what altcoins better to convert to BTC. For, we can meet several worthy altcoins to hold or trade besides Bitcoin. They are likely ETH, XRP, XZC, Doge, and others.
6515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Would you trust FB with your KYC details? on: June 19, 2019, 10:04:29 PM
Do you mean the KYC to join in the token sale of a coin by Facebook? Or the KYC for Facebook?
If the team is trusted, why not? So far, we are also obligated to do KYC process when going to become an investor is=n certain ICO or IEO projects. And this is no matter (except the shit scam). If the real team offered by Facebook, I will not be doubtful, moreover, every new coin has a chance to grow and we may not underestimate the coins in advance.
6516  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: NEWS: Official Statement Facebook Terkait Proyek Cryptocurrency on: June 19, 2019, 02:03:54 AM
Sayangnya, Libra lebih tersentralisasi. ini jauh berbeda dengan kripto pada umumnya.

Agak bingung dengan kata "lebih tersentralisasi", saya kira cukup disebut "sentralisasi" saja. Karena pada dasarnya sama saja, sentralisasi berarti adanya entitas yang mengatur atau mengontrol sebuah sistem dan jaringannya.

Oya, sebenarnya ini bukanlah sesuatu yang "surprising". Karena sudah ada contoh sebelumnya yang terbukti sukses, yaitu Ripple Labs [pendiri Ripple]. Saya juga yakin Libra pun punya potensi yang sama, bahkan mungkin lebih besar dengan nama besar Facebook.

ini juga dianggap memiliki masalah keamanan yang lebih rentan dikarenakan statusnya yang bukan desentralisasi.

Mungkin Om masulum bisa jelaskan terlebih dahulu tentang masalah keamanan dari sisi apa yang dimaksud di sini? Karena saya kira baik sistem sentralisasi maupun desentralisasi punya kelemahan masing-masing untuk masalah keamanan. Entah mana yang lebih rentan, dilihat dari segi apa dulu.

Bagi orang-orang yang lebih mengutamakan desentralisasi mungkin Libra ini akan tidak sesuai bagi mereka. Tetapi, bagi para investor yang percaya pada nama besar perusahaan daripada masalah sentralisasi maupun desentralisasi, bisa jadi Libra akan menjadi pilihan utama.

Bagi para investor, yang menjadi pertimbangan utama adalah potensi keuntungan/profit dan keamanan, bukan masalah sentralisasi atau desentralisasi. Dan saya belum begitu yakin kalo para investor akan menjadikan Libra sebagai pilihan utama mereka. Apalagi jika libra memiliki tingkat volatilitas yang rendah, seperti yang Om Abhi sebutkan di atas.


Bacaan terkait sentralisasi - desentralisasi :  
https://www.seputarforex.com/artikel/memahami-desentralisasi-dan-sentralisasi-di-ruang-lingkup-kripto-286629-38
6517  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty dengan alokasi besar apakah menurut anda menghasilkan uang besar. on: June 19, 2019, 12:05:34 AM
kalau dari pengelaman ane itu jarang banget gan tapi semua itu tergntung kemajuan proyek itu sendiri
paling tidak alokasi besar ada harapan bisa dapatkan keuntungan gan

Apanya yang jarang banget? Mohon diperjelas bagian ini Om.
Apa alokasi kecil juga tidak bakal mendapat keuntungan? Baik alokasi kecil maupun besar, kedua-duanya memungkinkan keuntungan. Alokasi kecil pun bisa untung, toh kita mengerjakan bounty bisa dibilang hampir tidak mengeluarkan biaya. Namun memang perbedaannya adalah alokasi besar lebih potensial untuk keuntungan yang lebih besar, dengan catatan kalo tidak berujung scam.  Cheesy
6518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trade on Latoken on: June 18, 2019, 10:32:44 PM
Actually, every trader may have certain experience trading in certain exchange, so does experience in LaToken. There are some people who might have bad experience. But I'm the same as you, having a good experience and no problem there. It is one of the top 20 exchanges that we can meet.
6519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who Says Bear Market is BAD? on: June 18, 2019, 11:14:40 AM
Of course, the bear market is good for long term investors to plan their new assets. They can get coins at cheap prices and set all the assets for long term investments. Then, wait for the bullrun time to sell the assets.  

Anyway, for some investors already bought some coins at high prices previously, they can hold them till having proper values on the market or choose "cutloss". It is indeed a risk of investment. To remember that bearish is not the time to sell but time to buy new assets.  

For traders, especially day traders, they may hate the bear market because they are difficult to gain profits. I think we cannot blame them to hate it. Everyone has their own goals and expectation related to crypto market.
6520  Economy / Speculation / Re: what is the prediction BTC as per now on: June 18, 2019, 10:47:15 AM
With people who love the long-term stability, and see it like as a savings, put it all into Bitcoin is a wise choice and absolutely safe

In my view, there is no safest coin for investment, even it is Bitcoin. Who knows what will happen in the future, surely no one can guess it. That's why some people advise diversifying your assets. I think what OP said is wiser than to put all money on Bitcoin. However, it is your choice, you may have your own view and wants to focus on a single coin only.


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