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6501  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dump or long term goals? on: October 07, 2016, 11:07:20 AM
Definitely do long term goals. Bitcoin will rise over time and if you really want to earn some good amount of profit, then you'll have to wait for a long time. Dumping today might make some profit to you but it's not as much as you'd earn when you wait for years.

But if an emergency comes, you should have some Bitcoins reserve for that so not all of your Bitcoins will be gone and all of the time that you waited will just go to waste.

Agree with all of this, day trading is a fools game. The only way to make serious money in bitcoin now for the amateur guy is to HODL & wait for a significant price increase.

We can't blame them if they sell their coins maybe they are  been satisfied for the little result and little profits but i think it cannot effect the price if they are just a small chicken on that basket, but if they are big holders well provably selling all they've got is the baddest thing they could do since they can make the price breaks, but really if they believe the bitcoins legacy i think its better to hold this coin for more longer years since the price has high chance to regain like on what happen back on 2013,
6502  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: October 07, 2016, 10:37:55 AM
The best way in my eyes is by believing in yourself and also let someone control your, see it as a social control what is needed for your own safety.
I think that its good and that you can with that accomplish your goal and that is stopping.

Yes that's it, you must have the will power to quit gambling for your own good. Just think about if you are going to keep on being an addicted gambler or else you are going to make yourself worst if you are not going to quit with it. So the initiative is going to come from your own or else you are going to feel sorry in the end.

Yes indeed the best motivation to make us quit gambling sites is from within yourself. Because if we have the intention to not gamble and determined to quit will be successful without the help of people around. Make yourself to be busy in useful activities will help us forget to gambling.

within ourselves is one of the factor but also we need some moral support for those who love us and for our friends since they are the one who can give advice to us to stop and what are the things we  need to do to surpass the delemna that we are facing today, by ourselves is really not helping since it has still a high chance for us to get back on gambling if we can see some trigerous thing that can make us get back on our gambling tantrums, seek for physical help is also a necessary things to do for those who are very ill since i think they are in need of deep medication.
6503  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Spark Profit on: October 07, 2016, 10:15:56 AM
Is someone still using this ?? Spark profit for me is good but its really hard to predict what will gonna happen in coins oil and gold for me points are really hard to earn where you could posibility lose all your points by wrong prediction all you need to do here is to have a full knowledge about the news in oil and etc

If it's easy to predict then the actual traders will not suffer any loss and they will just win. Same for the players of Sparkprofit.

That is the challenge, no easy money here. But you know just by reading speculations and news is enough, at least in my part. It works for me and really effective especially the recent Oil news after the OPEC deal. But take note that it can't applied to other assets there.


the easy to predict their is oil,copper,gold and silver and that is my usually predicted ones to raise my points and it's very helpfull if you read some latest article or find a site brooker where you can find another info regarding to those price up and downs,

and for those starters who want to try Spark i think they should try to predict those commodities since they are the very movy on the market,
6504  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The Best Time to Become a Trader on: October 04, 2016, 10:36:56 AM
The best time to become a trader is when you are ready. Grin

and if you are not ready yet then you don't have to trade. i think better to prepare yourself before you trying to be a trader, including about your fund, what do you want to trade, what is your plan when you are trade and else. i think you can trying to become a trader, and there are no best time, its all depend on you are ready or not to trade.

Monitoring and reading some traders experiences is what I did at start. I never tried to be a "know it all guy" we are talking about real money here and I dont want my money to be in jeopardy just because of my idiotic pride.


Yes that's right that should be the mindset for those starters, they should not do some nasty moves and pretend to know all things since it can kill them and make their money gone, and even experience traders needs refresher's and teaching knowledge for their fellow traders so they can get new info from new movements, and know all info is the best weapon on trading to gain some good profits for it.
6505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: FISSIONCOIN on: October 04, 2016, 09:45:16 AM
fisioncoin only ponzy scheme
not crypto coin market, so you can write is righ placed section investor based game

Why do you say it is a ponzi ? It is not an investor based game it is an altcoin. I tried it and I too though it might be a scam but it is good have a look at the site. Though I will say I would not invest large amount just incase.
It's not part of altcoin you can trade with exchanger that's why it will be difficult to recover your loss if they run and that's what happened now too many coin created just to scam or just another ponzi scheme hide in crypto currency ralated coin. but it's fake after all.

So it turns out it is a scam and has shutdown completely. That is a nice way of getting peoples numbers. I wonder how many registered ? I know I did ^^ Thankfully I never put any money in.
I also registered in fissioncoin last month but we're lucky to send any of our money in that site. I searched it first ig theres available exchanger than we can change it to btc but no I cant find it. And I think that's the same with other hyip investment .and I'm right and that's a good decision not try this one.

I dont reall be amaze by this coin since i think this one is just like others who have been existed and used the cryptocoin exposure so people would really attract to invest into it, and at first really i'm doubting that this one is a hyip/ponzi so i dont bother to invest even a single penny on them,

So if people think investing on this one i think they should do some background checking of this coin, so their money will not be compromised by those frauds hiding beneath on their bad sites.
Yeah and it dont know why op still selling his coin when the this coin already scam and no one will accept it even if they sell it much cheaper this kind of coin no use right now.

Since the thread has been made from sept. 21 i think he don't know at that time and date that fission coin is scam so thats why he's selling that on here and hopinh to get some profit if he can get some prospects on this furom, but turns out bad it is now scam and feel sorry for those another victims by hyips and another big lesson learned for them and hope they would learned again for this kind of situation, we just need to be carefull next time when we want to stake.
6506  Economy / Speculation / Re: How long is Bitcoin life? on: October 04, 2016, 09:12:57 AM
basically, we no one can predict how long the bitcoin life. even we are also difficult to predict the price of bitcoin.
but as long as the user continues to grow, and the development of bitcoin is getting better, I'm sure it could last longer

Ofcourse it will last longer I wonder how long it will last for cause alternative coins could take over for whatever reason.
For example if bitcoin gets hacked alot of people will flee to different cryptocurrency who perhaps have a better defense.


It will last longer if people would continue to use this coin and we don't know how it will go so far,

but as i've see the current state and the solidity of the community what bitcoin have i think bitcoin would stay on our side for many years and we were be lucky if it will last for.many decades, but aslong as many people would us it , well im sure we can see the bitcoins existence will go as far as we can't imagine.
6507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: October 04, 2016, 08:25:58 AM
I think most gamblers can't controlling their temper in gambling, especially when they lose money. Thats why its always safest to play just for fun with small amounts.
i think not in lost mode only you can lost control over yourself .

when you won and have a bigger desire to win and you thinkk it was the luckiest day ever you will keep betting with the winning amount you have and even add more funds , remember as human will never feel enough on anything.
Yes actually i am also one of those who is not able to control my temper in gambling.But not only is gambling but even if i am winning its not easy to control my temper because we get more and more greedy in this and in loosing we loose our temper in trying to chase our loss and both these only causes more loss.

you need to learn how to control your temper sooner or later and not only for gambling but for your life also. because there are always things happening in life when you need to keep your calm and make a good decision instead of acting irrationally and leading yourself into a bad situation.


That could really lead them on worst situation but for what i've seen their are so mamy greedy gamblers who's placing their bets wildly like their are no tommorrow upon when they are betting and that could turn them really in messy situation if they continue to do that,

Controlling our self is easy to say but hard to execute since if we want to win or regain back our lose if we are on those situation.
6508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What if Satoshi reemerge and created a new coin on: October 04, 2016, 07:34:18 AM
That's a legit possibility.

This new coin will probably take many of the innovations that we've seen in other coins.

He can easily prove his identity here on Bitcointalk.

If all this happens, the media coverage for Bitcoin will be at an all time high, and could possibly multiply the current crypto users.

This new coin could probably kill Bitcoin.

This new coin will not kill bitcoin. Bitcoin already has a solid foundation and a good running economy behind it. Any new coin will have a hard time to surpass bitcoin even if Satoshi himself started a new cryptocoin. The market is already established and there are real companies that support it. That is the power of the market and the economy.

Here is a question for you. Despite the leaps and bounds for clean energy why do you think we are still dependent on crude oil?


Agree with this one people would not jump off easily for another coins made by the same dev, bitcoin is really strong crypto for now and business slowly adopting it and marking as their e-currency option,  it will take some many years to lift up and make to the point that it well level to the bitcoins fame,

Satoshi is not the one directing the bitcoins fame, the fact is the people made it popular so the big possibilities that bitcoin will still the no.1 crypto eventhough satoshi would create another project coin.
6509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: FISSIONCOIN on: October 04, 2016, 06:55:55 AM
fisioncoin only ponzy scheme
not crypto coin market, so you can write is righ placed section investor based game

Why do you say it is a ponzi ? It is not an investor based game it is an altcoin. I tried it and I too though it might be a scam but it is good have a look at the site. Though I will say I would not invest large amount just incase.
It's not part of altcoin you can trade with exchanger that's why it will be difficult to recover your loss if they run and that's what happened now too many coin created just to scam or just another ponzi scheme hide in crypto currency ralated coin. but it's fake after all.

So it turns out it is a scam and has shutdown completely. That is a nice way of getting peoples numbers. I wonder how many registered ? I know I did ^^ Thankfully I never put any money in.
I also registered in fissioncoin last month but we're lucky to send any of our money in that site. I searched it first ig theres available exchanger than we can change it to btc but no I cant find it. And I think that's the same with other hyip investment .and I'm right and that's a good decision not try this one.

I dont reall be amaze by this coin since i think this one is just like others who have been existed and used the cryptocoin exposure so people would really attract to invest into it, and at first really i'm doubting that this one is a hyip/ponzi so i dont bother to invest even a single penny on them,

So if people think investing on this one i think they should do some background checking of this coin, so their money will not be compromised by those frauds hiding beneath on their bad sites.
6510  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: October 04, 2016, 06:19:59 AM
Its amazing to see the casinos keeping being a profitable investment, and several casinos able to allow such investment into them, those makes them more safety, and for sure a good option to invest, almost without a risk, i do remember someone earning 10% weekly soo sound a great opportunity.

Investing to reputable online casinos is better than gambling on those casinos. However, regarding your take that there are almost no risk, I disagree on that because there is still a risk in investing to these casinos unless you regularly invest for a long period of time - that way house edge is at your advantage.

Along with longer term investing, you also need to consider to diversify your investments so that it will reduce you loses in worst cases like if someone wins big amount from any one casino, then you may need to wait for very long time to recover those losses.


Thats a good idea but actually its rarely to be happen that some player will win big or hit some jackpot on the time they gamble and so by that investor will have still high chance to earn some profits with their investment in those such casino, but if luck will hit on players i think casino's have counter measure to bounce back and make their investor regain again from their losses.
6511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which gambling sites have 0% house edge? on: October 03, 2016, 11:22:56 AM
If ever there is a site that has 0% house edge would you trust them. Never seen a site that gives 0% house edge(except those gives promo of course). It would be better to play in a site that has house edge for me than nothing.
You are right with that dude, I do not see how the site would survive if they do not the house edge, with that reality maybe you have to doubt a bit because it is either the system is rigged and you will be able to lose your money in an easy way. Better do sports betting if you do not want a house edge and I can recommend you my current signature.


I really think how they earn such revenue if they don't have any house edge but when i see that their are so many reputable website that offers 0% house edge i think its possible really that they earn profits with this scheme, and it matters on gambling site upon how they handle those one.

But it is matter of choices for every player on where they would play and select on which site they are comfortable to play their games.
6512  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining Recommendations? on: October 03, 2016, 10:41:55 AM
do NOT even think about investing in a cloudmining service because simply they are all scams. in fact what you are investing in is a Ponzi scheme not a cloudmining service because there is no actual hardware to mine bitcoin.
Exactly,it is a matter of time until every cloudmining/hyip/revshare site collapses and the owner runs away with your money,even if you are lucky enough and make some money(which I highly doubt) they will be stolen from newer members who joined after you,how would you feel then?personally I wouldn't feel very comfortable.

Im kinda feel annoyed when people keeps asking info's about cloudminings while its clearly stated on many threads and incidents of scamming event happening on those sites and people should really pin point that all of them are scam, so its not really good upon thinking to invest on those since surely the scam incident will repeatedly happen on those one, so better leave and save your money for those frauds and think that we can't earn with that one.
6513  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Paypal a scam? on: October 02, 2016, 02:01:50 PM
I have had an issue with Paypal and while I was trying to look for a solution on the internet, I came across this website (https://www.consumeraffairs.com/online/paypal_02.html) where everybody is complaining about Paypal. Most of the complains were actually similar to the one that I have. I thought Paypal is a credible company but now I have started feeling worried about my funds stuck in the accounts.
Paypal is not scam paypal is one of the most awesome payment in internet where you can use it to buy such as things and many more, THere are lots of things that can do with paypal but it doesn't mean that Paypal is scam they upgrading there securities to higher level where they can detect frauds.


But sometimes really we cannot take out the fact that thos processor has been used by those numerous fruad people to reverse their transaction and that is really the danger upon dealing with paypal, so for now i really avoiding to have some transaction regardless to these processor if i don't know if my co dealmates are legit,

But for the positive though's paypal ia legaly safe if used nice and their are so many stores accepting paypal, and it mattwr really that some users abused the dispute feature of paypal and that make others thinks it is scam.
6514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Litecoin looks very attractive right now. Chikun about to moon? on: October 02, 2016, 01:20:47 PM
I took a look at the Litecoin charts and there is no evidence of any trend starting. I would not invest in Litecoin at all, hoping for a future increase. It is easy enough to see a trend starting and buy at that time. There are better coins to buy if you are looking for the best chance of a price increase. Put your money in bitcoin instead.

if you could see the trend on the charts without taking a close look then everybody would have been rich from trading altcoins.

the signs are there, both in the charts and also in the news you only have to know where to look Wink

There are a lot of litecoin bag holders who desperately want a pump to cash out. An increase from 574 to 625 in two months with no volume to speak of is not a tradeable trend just noise. There are no hidden indicators, no secrets.


For now really i don't see any noise for litecoin and i think this coin is not good for me since the price go stable and that thing would not be profitable for traders if they do trade with LTC, and i think its about time to do some advertisement if the dev really wants his coin to be more alive in this days, and ltc need to geT some exposure.since their are numerous of ico's are so thrend today.
6515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which altcoin would you buy to invest a small amount of money? on: October 02, 2016, 12:14:29 PM
Probably Iconomi. You should do your own research about it.


Yeah ICONOMI is good to buy and those early adopters for that coin is very lucky since they got more icn tokens for such bunos they get, and possible that they can earn more profits for this coin since the money collected by the ICN team is pretty huge and the price is enough to make those investors earn more money with this token.

And also pesobit is my one of favorite coins for now since the price of this coin plummetted for more and became no.1 tradable coin in cryptopia for now.
6516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Need bustabit advice on: October 02, 2016, 11:42:44 AM
I've started playing bustabit since past week and lost around $45. Is there any script that works? or it is just a game of luck?
i think you are not using your money for growing your profit . you are involving in gamble and it is a way to lost . there is no trick to gamble it is only a luck based game .

As expected when we are playing gambling we would surely lost our money and theres no trick to gamble at all to make winning bets  anytime. Bustabit is  a matter of luck game which it doesnt need a script and there no really script for that you would rely fully on your  luck.
so true. many people are selling the script. if in logic. why they do not use their own if a profit ?. instead he sold the script to someone else. if that script it could be sold but should not be used alone

Do not script in gambling site. Script is just for temporary win. The house i just giving you the money to make you comfortable with them but at the end of day they will get back the money plus your funds.

It is very simple.  The amount of time that hackers and others spend making these scripts is less than 10% of the amount of time that the casino web site staff takes planning around these things.  There may be very isolated occasions when an actual vulnerability script works on a given site, but that will never last long and it is likely that winnings gotten from that will never be paid out or the accounts and the IP’s will be banned.

exactly, there is no way to think past the work that these guys have done.  even if the script is freeware, readily found on the internet and seriously over used, it is still covered against stuff like this.  A game script is just too advanced, even in the simplest form, for someone to have just thrown together.
In overall theres no  such script exist that do guarantee 100%  profitability which  is  very impossible  to happen. Maybe there are some  scripts  do  work but later  on the long run it would be still  busted by the  house  no matter  what. It would  be ideal to play manual betting than those  using scripts.

I don't know why theirs people for now still believe on script since some of them or let say all of them are totally not working, and i don't really believe on those since i've see those site have house edge and that is the luck killer on anybody who's winning continuesly, and i agree with you for your thoughs its really better to play manual so you could monitor and enjoy the game and the flows.
6517  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Can we see coin mixing services as money laundering services ? on: October 02, 2016, 11:02:52 AM
Why just mixing services, any business could be misused for money laundering. I do not understand what is point on targeting a mixing services for money laundry as mixing services is almost equivalent to any other bitcoin related services like gambling / exchange /online wallet /lending.

A wrong person may misuse any bitcoin business for his illegal activities, particularly bitcoin mixing service has nothing to do for money laundering.

If coin mixing services are money laundering services for sure the FBI are going to ask the coin mixing companies to close immediately. How about the banks? They are being used for money laundering too but no proper actions. It is really going to depend on how we are going to coin mixing services legally and not going to get attached with illegal ones.


Banks? I think they are not oblig to tell who's fraud and who is not it is the part of their costumer protection but if some certain law will gonna sue i think they can easily open the bank  accounts of the fraud but they cannot seize the full operation of the bank since they are not affiliates, but in coin mixing service well it has a high chance for that but it is really very hard since i think mixing site owners i think do some counter measure for that so they can sustain their business to still run, and it has nothing to do with those fraud since they cannot stop them to use their service.
6518  Economy / Economics / Re: What would happen if Bitcoin became a legal currency? on: September 30, 2016, 12:47:21 PM
Everyone would like the bitcoin is accepted in all online and real stores and, as as mentioned in the title, what would happen if Bitcoin became a legal currency?

Price will raise to 1000$ - 1500$ for one coin.


That's huge.prediction but i think the price will be lesser and coins will be controlled if this coin will be controlled by the government, and also maybe the acceptance of bitcoin will spread and the numbers of users will increase if this coin will really became legal, the only thing disadvantage see's for bitcoin to became legal is the limit supply will be controlled by them and surely traders will stop earnings for tradings since the movements of bitcoin will became smaller.
6519  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The Best Time to Become a Trader on: September 30, 2016, 12:05:14 PM
Well i wanted to start and i even started but stopped after a while. Even though i know that it will be rewarding once u understand the pattern and gain experience but its just i lost money and time which use totally unecessary since this is just a fun thing for me and not actual means of earning money for a living
that's the fact,you can't count on trading because you will get uncertain earning everyday,sometime you lost and sometime you get profit,although it's all depend on your analyzation,there's also traders outside cryptoworld or lets call them forex traders that also having such same activities and could make living though


Analyzation really helps but it cannot still assure us earn  for this everyday and sometimes our expectation for tradings will not meet and not been happening so earning on tradings and no assurance for traders since we cannot get fixed income to it, and thats the reason why we cannot really on tradings to earn more money for this, and new traders should really think that trading is not easy job to start with.
6520  Economy / Gambling / Re: Asking for best dice site for you on: September 30, 2016, 11:34:51 AM
Hey guys I just want to ask what your favorite dice site that helps you to win or lucky in the game if you play in this dice site. Because I am aware of the validity of some dice site. He he. Just to secure my money or maybe I'll get some luck to your lucky moments or in your journey of your dice site.

First of all you should learn something about gambling on dice game, dice game is just based on our luck and I don't think there is any strategy or dice site can be helpful to make huge profit, we must play with amount what is affordable to lose there, anyway you can play on rollin, bitsler, betking and fortunejack.

Their is still strategy but the strategy means in that game or any game is to control yourself and discipline yourself to stop whenever your losing enough and for that we cannot be drained enough if we lose since we are in control and that is my strategy for my self and also i'd rather call all dice sites whos running for long time as the best since they sustained their business for that long time and yet many people trusted and played for their gambling site.
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