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6521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are females welcomed in gambling thread? on: April 28, 2021, 11:52:46 AM
You are welcome to discuss anything related to gambling here because gambling is for males and females. The important thing is we can take care of ourselves when we play gambling so we do not lose money. And males or females can join in the gambling, and I guess many females are playing gambling games offline or online. But maybe those females are playing online gambling in their hidden rooms because they do not want other people to know that they are playing gambling too like males. But no matter if they are male or female, they need to be careful because many people already lose in gambling.
6522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: April 28, 2021, 06:21:53 AM
It's mostly a personal preference, nothing else. I just prefer having control over my earnings on my own wallet and then proceed to deposit if I ever need to. I'm not implying that providing with the option to pay directly to your casino account is a negative, on the contrary, it's a benefit, but only for those who opt for it.

As for myself, I'd prefer not to, but that's just my preference, it's just easier to be in control of your funds. Nonetheless, I'm only gambling with small amounts, it's not like that I have gambling issues and can't hold myself.
Because sometimes, if the income is sent to their account in the gambling site, it can make them tempting to use for gambling and once they found excitement in the gambling games, they will forget to manage their income instead of playing gambling. The benefit of having the income sent to the wallet is that we can hold it without sending it to the other wallet if we do not need it. And that can prevent us from sending the money to the gambling site if we want to sell bitcoin at a high price.

But no matter if the income is sent to your gambling account or your wallet, you need to manage the funds and not use them for just playing gambling. Your life is not for playing gambling and you have many things that you need to do.
6523  Other / Off-topic / Re: Corruption and Sports on: April 28, 2021, 05:27:01 AM
Although eradicating the corruptions is not easy, we need to be sure that someday that thing can eliminate from sports so people and fans can enjoy the match without any fixing match from the corrupt people.
It is a big job from the clean officers to investigate all people who corrupt in sports, and that will need time to reveal all of the things in the public. Hopefully, everything will solve in the right time.
We're also enjoying even without knowing that corruption is happening behind the teams and management. But we just hope for the best that in the future, it will be completely wiped out.
People who do not know about corruption happen in that sports will enjoy and not think the match already set it up. If we have more clean officers fighting against corruption, sooner or later, that corruption will be wiped out, making the sports clean from the corruption.

They'll lose a lot if they'll not take any actions whenever there's information regarding to this corruptions or other illegal things that present
from their jurisdiction.  Good thing that there are many people now who are concern about this and willing to help.
It's a big business today and that's why there are many who are willing to help but still can't maintain the cleanliness of it. We'll never know the hidden corruption until someone exposes them.
Yes, both of you are right. It needs an investigate furthermore to know who is the person behind of the corruption. If the person can do something if they got the information about the corruption, it could give the chance to do something to know deeper.
6524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fate or lack of control - Gambling on: April 28, 2021, 04:26:33 AM
You can differentiate between a strategic based type of game to a pure luck based ones which you can eventually tell based up on experience on what
are the probabilities for you to win a certain game.If you do have enough knowledge and awareness then you can point out which one would really be good
if you do really mind of making profits and its up to you when making out decisions neither you do get out when in profits or simply proceed if you do
tend to play for more.Self control is always been on question.
Maybe if he has a skill in a gambling game-based strategy, he will have a chance to win. But if he wants to play gambling games based on pure luck, he only plays to search for fun things and not test his luck. A gambler will know what gambling games that he can play and hopefully, they will know that gambling games are designed to give entertainment and fun instead of making money. Besides that, a gambler should have self-control in a gambling game to prevent loss.
6525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 28, 2021, 03:15:26 AM
I thought that you have because you keep insisting that people shouldn't stop reminding someone to stop if they've been already reminded for a long time. There really are people that are existing like that but everyone has their own limitation and won't stay for that long.
That's the reality of life, they won't just stay for you because there are other things to focus with their time and attention.
No, I do not have a person like what I describe but I have friends who almost like that and I am happy and grateful that they still giving their support to me and I also give the same to them. Well, life is not perfect, but we make it perfect with our friends.

When we won something in our life, we can celebrate with them, and if we lose something, they will beside us and help us not too sad.

When the first try you looks easy to win but after few time giving betting site you loss all your money, I think enough how much money loss so far in betting site, there are never have chance for you to get win more and earn profit in betting. Although you an expert in betting site never have any chance for you to win always.
At the first time, people can win easily from the gambling games, but for the next rounds or days, they will not win easily as before because that is just an attraction from the casino to make you back to their place. When you continue playing in their place, that is the sign for them that you are curious about the games and the winning to serve you better to give you a good experience in their place.
6526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 27, 2021, 03:40:04 PM
Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.
I guess not. The best friend can be tired but that does not mean they will stop remind us and take care of us. But we must realize by ourselves that we break our limit and make our best friend feel tired. If we can not have those feeling, our mind become hard like a rock. That means we are in a heavy addiction without having a chance to admit that we need help.
Maybe that is the last thing that we can do for them, and the rest will be up to them.
I don't know what to say if there are people like that that will care for you until the end even if you're too hard-headed and keep on ignoring their reminder.
Well, if you have that kind of friend, it's a gem.
Although I do not have people like that, I am sure that person really exists and really cares about his best friend and will do anything for the relationship. Yes, it is like we found a gem and we must not let that person go away from beside us. We really need a person like that to help each other because having a friend like that will be a blessing to us.
6527  Other / Off-topic / Re: Corruption and Sports on: April 27, 2021, 02:42:49 PM
What I think is that cases like these have became isolated. And for those who are risking their sports career and have no choice be involved on it are really forced due to those reasons and other management issues that they've found.

It's only an isolated if the league will not make a serious action on this, they maybe are trying to protect their reputation without knowing it will only make this kind of activity to spread in the league, and people will slowly loss their trust on the league especially the advertisers which usually gives a good amount for the success of the league. you know, reputation really matters a lot and they need to protect it.
Reputation does matters and that's why a league's management are getting rid of it as much as they can and, as soon as they've found out that something like this existed.
But hopefully, most of these corruptions and sell outs won't happen anymore in bigger leagues that we've used to follow because their following are really high and they know how huge the fan base they have in the world.
Although eradicating the corruptions is not easy, we need to be sure that someday that thing can eliminate from sports so people and fans can enjoy the match without any fixing match from the corrupt people.
It is a big job from the clean officers to investigate all people who corrupt in sports, and that will need time to reveal all of the things in the public. Hopefully, everything will solve in the right time.
6528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fate or lack of control - Gambling on: April 27, 2021, 01:26:48 PM
Indeed! there's no regret as beforehand they'll knew that consequences .

There are many options if you straighten your mindsets, gambling as for the sake of fun should have limitation. It helps to prevent making big mistakes and losing huge amount of money.

Understand that whatever action you take it reflects to your personality, best to assess and keep your control over your gambling activities.
Yes, it is. The important here always have limitations and never break that for our own good. Once we forgot about that, our life will be in trouble. I agree that we should have a good mindset in gambling and we should have control for ourselves so that it will help us lose money.

There are many options if you straighten your mindsets, gambling as for the sake of fun should have limitation. It helps to prevent making big mistakes and losing huge amount of money.
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The solution to this is quite simple, you have to see gambling for what it is: a hobby that costs money (and in the very unlikely event can lead to you making a lot of money from it).

Personally, I control this, for example, through a fixed amount that I spend per month on my hobbies (cinema, ... but also gambling). Once this amount is reached, I no longer gamble. In some months I get out with a plus and then take it with me for the next month, where it is then mostly gambled away again Wink
That will need more control to be like you but you did a great to limit yourself in gambling. That is a simple plan on what we want to do with our money and if the amount is reached or we still have some amount for that month, we do not have to spend more instead, we can save it back to our wallet. And if we can win from gambling, that will be a bonus for us. It is hard to limitations but worth learning about limitations to not get into trouble in the future.
6529  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet, Stake or Sportsbet - Which is best? on: April 27, 2021, 12:11:54 PM
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I did try it myself before when I've got asked to do so to withdraw it. Just as enjoying it for fun which has been always been said but when it comes to being asked to comply, you've got no choice but to follow it if you want to take your money with you.

Yes, people will not feel difficult to verify their account and they will do anything to get their money, including their win money. Many of us have that experience in gambling sites, and they follow the rule from the site to withdraw their money.

I do not bet on the sports betting site, so I think it will depend on each person to try to use Cloudbet, Stake or Sportbet. Maybe if they can try one by one of that sports betting, they will know the differences as I do not know too much about that. But if that is about playing a regular gambling game such as dice, Plinko, blackjack, mines, crash, wheel, baccarat and else, you can try with Stake. Many of us think about KYC, but if you use gambling to have fun, you do not have to think or verify your account because you do not intend to make money from gambling.
You never bet on sports betting? Why you can advertise a sport betting site then? Stake is popular with their sport betting compared other games they have.
KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?
I do not know much about sports betting and if I want to bet on sports betting, I can ask my friends to place the bet for us because he is more familiar with sports betting than me and he can have a bigger chance to win. I prefer to playing gambling in an easy gambling game such as dice, crash, wheel, mines, and that game is available on Stake. But with the increase of bitcoin price, I am trying to reduce my gambling time and save income for a while and wait for the bitcoin price to increase more.
6530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC price VS gambling on: April 27, 2021, 05:54:41 AM
Also, IIRC, Sportsbet does process BTC withdrawal before free of charge, I'm wondering if they are still doing the same now.
I didn't find any update on whether they still provide free withdrawal fee during the increase in transaction fee. Many sites make change and they may still adjust their fee if they are too high.

Gamblers will BTC maybe be discouraged to deposit Bitcoins but they will also be discouraged to withdraw their BTC funds, so they will have to let them on the gambling platforms and hence to gamble them there, that's why these high transaction fees are not a real bad thing for crypto casinos in my opinion.
Meanwhile, we will be hearing a lot of complaint coming from players wanting to withdraw and deposit bitcoin to the site due to transaction fee. If the estimated withdrawal amount include only transaction fee, it's worth spending everything there hoping to win something bigger.
Yes but I don't think casinos are targeting this kind of gamblers when they settle high withdrawal fees because if they are unable to withdraw their funds, those small gamblers won't come back again and won't deposit anymore funds there. I think casinos are mostly targeting average gamblers by doing that, because the average gambler won't stop to deposit just because of that but will be more reluctant to withdraw oftentimes.
But they need to withdraw their money sometimes, especially if they can win a lot of money. The casino itself will adjust the withdrawal fees related to the current situation. But we can not deny that the fees to withdraw bitcoin becomes too high. With bitcoin price now coming back to $53k, average gamblers will use the other coins besides bitcoin to prevent the fees that can back to the high again. The casino will understand that situation and maybe they will add the other low coin price to help the gamblers deposit the coin.
6531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: April 27, 2021, 04:59:34 AM
Yes, indeed. It really makes me happy when bitcoin drops a bit before the manager calculates the weekly payments for the signature campaign. I know it's not much, but still. It will be good to see that I received more than expected when the price resumes its upward trend.
With the bitcoin price now is down, you can get more satoshi than usual, and if you can hold it for a while until the price can back increase to $60k, you can make more money by selling the bitcoin. But if you use that income to gamble and lose, that can not make you have the money. But I guess some people will convert their bitcoin into an altcoin to still play gambling without thinking about the price.

Yeah, people have different mindsets in this industry and most of them will not have any patience to hold because they only have few sources of income and the pandemic is worsening in some parts of the world especially India. as you can see, some of the holders rush to get their money to spend because things are not going easy for them this time. some of the people have not yet decided to withdraw their BTC due to some hope that the price in the market will likely rise again after this event.
I am shocked to see what happened in India. The news on television or the internet gives an image India now has new mutations of the pandemic.

I am sure the holders have their reason why they can not hold longer. But I guess many of them have an urgent need to be filled, so they sell some bitcoin they have to solve the urgent thing. But I am sure they still hold the rest of bitcoin in their wallet and wait for the bitcoin price increases.
6532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fate or lack of control - Gambling on: April 27, 2021, 03:33:12 AM
For me, people who don't take responsibility for their action and instead blame the unseen forces that may or may not exist are the type of people that don't deserve to have a prosperous life because if they can't own up to their actions then how can you expect them to do anything productive. When you are spiraling in losses when gambling, there is only one to blame and that is the individual.
Those people do not have confidence in themselves, so he counts on unseen forces that are unnecessary. They can not see that they actually have their power to do something other than just playing gambling to make money. They do not realize that life is not just for having fun, but we also need to try to do something and change our lives better. When they lose their money in gambling, that will be their mistake and they should not regret it because that is the consequence of playing gambling.

You'll never feel bad if you are a responsible gambler, being responsible makes you understand the risk and reward in gambling, and more so the risk since most gamblers are losing money, that's the reality we can't deny, and as evidence, their industry is growing that we can ever imagine.

All we do is be honest with ourselves, we can't beat the house if that's our intention, but we can be lucky sometimes and that's the reward in gambling.
We do not have to worry about the risk of gambling if we are responsible gamblers. But many gamblers can not be responsible gamblers and lose their money shortly. That is because they lack control and not being responsible for what they do in gambling.

Yes, when we can accept that the house will win in the end, we do not have to play gambling for a long time. And if we want to play gambling, just play for having fun and not think about trying to win the house because that will not easy.
6533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 27, 2021, 02:47:30 AM
It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.
If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.
Those friend of us will also get tired if that person don't listen. We have our limitation and not all the time we're going to keep on reminding that person.
It's not our job to keep reminding them specially if we've been reminding them even before, so be it. If we stop reminding them, it's their problem anymore.
I guess not. The best friend can be tired but that does not mean they will stop remind us and take care of us. But we must realize by ourselves that we break our limit and make our best friend feel tired. If we can not have those feeling, our mind become hard like a rock. That means we are in a heavy addiction without having a chance to admit that we need help.
Maybe that is the last thing that we can do for them, and the rest will be up to them.
6534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 26, 2021, 07:18:19 AM
We're blind to look at ourselves if we're about to become addicted. We're excited and we don't care about the surroundings and what's matter to us is that we're enjoying and we keep doing what we want to do and just as the other reasons of addicted gamblers, they wouldn't care what others will say to them as long as they're pushing what they think is right and what they like to do.
We are excited to play gambling, so we do not want to listen to others and think that they are talking too much about us. But if they care for us, they will not stop to tell us to stop and get out of the place.
It's not the responsibility of the other to keep reminding the other gamblers that have been found to be addicted. They're not in the position to tell continuously and care for you all of the time.
They're also getting tired if the person they're reminding doesn't stop.
If you have a good friend and are close and always beside you, they will always remind us not to play gambling regularly because of the risk inside gambling. Although that is not their responsibility, they can still do that because we are best friends and best friends will do anything for their best friend.

But related to gambling, maybe that will difficult for that gambler to listen to others, but I am sure his best friend will not stop to remind him. It is good if we have a friend like that.
6535  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price end of year? on: April 26, 2021, 06:32:28 AM
I'm not thinking about to be having correction on monthly basis but unfortunately right now we are into a big correction phase still I am hoping for bouncing back of bitcoin prices toward a new ATH above $70k price levels very soon. As per many people are speculating there are good chances for bitcoin prices to get doubled from here.

Honestly I'm expecting more than $100k by end of this year. Because we are already more than half of that as current ATH so there are plenty of chances for bitcoin prices to be testing more than $100k by the times of end of this current bull run.
Finally, the bitcoin prices bounce up to $52k after a big correction.
You saw bitcoin price struggle hard yesterday and now, the time for bitcoin to increase already comes. But we do not know if this situation will continue or it will get another correction. The price will reach $72k soon but we still do not know when it will come.

I also hoping bitcoin reach more than $100k but we can not expect that will happen soon because we do not know where the market will moves. What we can do this year is trying to make a profit many times, especially if the market starts the rally.

I think that is a big of a task for many people, specially people like me. I mean I would love to buy at the low price and sell at the high price before it crashes and buy again after the crash and keep doing this until the 100k price. However I know myself, I will end up putting money at the top and selling at the low, end up losing money while everyone is making a profit.

I have tried trading, still do trade with small amounts (unimportant, tiny, like 100$ or so) and I can tell that I rarely ever make a profit from it. This is why I think it is obvious for someone like me to  just buy and hold, that way I can make 2x very easily without working or doing anything, just let it be. This works even if we are wrong, even if price doesn't go to 100k this year, it eventually will go there, all I have to do is... nothing, I literally have to do nothing, just wait and it will be there one day.
Yes, buy and hold can be a solution for people who can not trade better like other traders. I use that way too if I can not analyze the coin or bitcoin moves out of my expectations. I prefer to buy at a low price and hold it than to trade because I know the risk of losing the money, so I prefer to play safe.

That will okay if you do that because we will select what way to make us feel comfortable without getting confused about how and what we need to do. We can still make a profit in the end, although we do not do something but still, we can take profit like other people.
6536  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin do the same scenario in 2018 ? on: April 25, 2021, 02:52:30 PM
i am wondering if Bitcoin will fall again like it happened in 2018 after the Bull run !
even in this time the price raised too much faster in shorter time.
last two days Bitcoin price felt 10000 $
i know that some news affect the market, but should we sell now in this panic ! or should we hold  Undecided
i am a little bit confused
Weak hands will sell their bitcoin as fast as they can because they think bitcoin will end soon. But if you still believe in bitcoin, you will not impact your bitcoin unless you hold on tight the bitcoin until the price increases more. Instead of selling your bitcoin, you have a big chance to buy more bitcoin at a low price and do not care about the news because the news will confuse which people you can follow. You should calm down and do not panic about the news,
6537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 25 arrested after Rab busts mini casino in Ashulia!! on: April 25, 2021, 01:42:15 PM
There are many restrictions in Bangladesh Cryptocurrency is illegal gambling is illegal people will find a way to do what they like they are publishing this to scare people who still gambling, people will find a way to gamble, this is just the tip of the iceberg there are still many hidden or underground gambling places and there are many playing online.
That is why the underground gambling places will still operate freely because people can find a way to gamble in hidden places. The government will not be easy to search for that places because the place will not share with the common people and only people who are often playing gambling will know the place. The illegal casino itself will be selective to invite the gambler who can play on their place because they are really strict to select the gambler. Arresting those people will not stop the illegal casino in many countries unless the government can catch the boss.
6538  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price end of year? on: April 25, 2021, 12:43:47 PM
i believe even if bitcoin drops a bit in a month, bitcoin will still hit 100k by end of year! let me know what you guys think
It could be possible for bitcoin to hit $100k by the end of the year. But before bitcoin go to that price, we might see many corrections will happen every month, so we need to be careful and prepare to buy bitcoin at a low price. But at this moment, we need to have the patience to wait for a while as bitcoin price now is not increasing so high and could get down for more. But we should be happy to see this year many companies will invest in bitcoin to boost bitcoin adoptions growth.
6539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 25, 2021, 11:51:06 AM
Most of the time, it's the other people who see and observe your behaviors.

Not common to a gambler to see his addiction, most of us if not all are always in denial, we keeps saying that we are just having fun but we already losing amont of money that more than we think we can spend to this activities.

Always better to listen if there's concern people who advise you to stop and find other sources of entertainment.
I hope that we can listen to others to know what is a change in ourselves and we are not too late to stop that before everything is ruin. A gambler will find it hard to see his addiction because he washed away in the enjoyment of gambling games while other people will clearly see the difference.

We can win today, but we can lose the next day, so we need to be careful in the gambling games and always manage the money before we lose all of the money.

We're blind to look at ourselves if we're about to become addicted. We're excited and we don't care about the surroundings and what's matter to us is that we're enjoying and we keep doing what we want to do and just as the other reasons of addicted gamblers, they wouldn't care what others will say to them as long as they're pushing what they think is right and what they like to do.
We are excited to play gambling, so we do not want to listen to others and think that they are talking too much about us. But if they care for us, they will not stop to tell us to stop and get out of the place.
6540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has the world become greedier since BTC? on: April 25, 2021, 10:05:58 AM
Greedy is a human trait that has existed since time immemorial. And this trait of course cannot be eliminated, it can only be controlled.
Regarding Bitcoin which has an impact on increasing Greediness, maybe so. because some people will even do anything to get instant profit from Bitcoin. But of course, no process is instant. With hard work and also awareness of the meaning or meaning of Bitcoin will make us more aware of this positive effect of Bitcoin.
If they are trying to get instant profit, they will not get that unless they are at the right time. Nonetheless, only people who can learn bitcoin and how to get bitcoin correctly will get what they want in the future. Everything that we want will have a process, and we should understand that time will answer it for us.

Greedy can be controlled, but that will need an effort to learn how to control the greedy.
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