Why? Why waste time on you?

Did he sacrifice himself, or did he let others kill him?

Sadder still that you can not tell me in your own words WHY I am sinning. God told you have having sex with someone of the same sex as you was sinning? He told me just the opposite. Perhaps that "sin" only applied to you? Or do you have something more concrete?


It's troubling that when you wanted to give other examples of sin besides homosexuality, your fist thoughts were rape and theft. Why did you think that homosexuality belongs in the same category? And if it doesn't, what other types of sin that don't actually cause any harm can you think of to compare to homosexuality? Is wearing cotton-polyester mix a good comparable sin? Is you talking in church? What about you touching anyone while you're on your period?

What the passage says is EXACTLY what I have proposed it says: Saul is angry at Jonathan because in Saul's eyes whatever Jonathan did was shameful, the result of his perverted mother, and brought shame on his mother's nakedness (whatever that means). Why are you avoiding the actual statement of that passage, trying to explain it with "But it's his MOTHER who was naked" when that was beside the point? Why are you avoiding all of my other questions too?

Fine, I'll concede you this one. Even though this passage happens AFTER David and Jonathan are back at Saul's house, and make a covenant with each other, I doubt anyone will budge. And for someone who is so quick to point out one's own piety and bible reading, you really don't strike me as someone who read it to understand it. It seems you just skimmed it for the words, and had someone else tell you what is meant, and which words are important.

Out of curiosity, just how much do you think this "perversion" or mine consumes me? By the way you talk to me, it seems as if you think my life, morning to dawn, is nothing but this homosex perverion.

I don't think centralized v.s. decentralized matters much. My first thought:

Beenz - Small group of guys at the top REALLY hyped about it, trying to get a larger group of "common" people out here hyped about it as well.
Bitcoin - HUGE group of random common people REALLY hyped about it, trying to get a smaller group of guys at the top hyped about it too.
Basically, one was an idea trying to spread from a few at the top to the many below, while the other is an idea built from the bottom up. Beenz can fail if the small group of people doesn't convince the larger group of people. Bitcoin succeeded simply because it's already a larger group to begin with.

... is that what the "folds" is for? 

Geze guys, just go f*ck already. The manly sexual tension between you two is making ME feel weird. You're worse than a married couple even.

JUST came across that myself. I withdraw my statement and apologize. Though do provide a link next time please.

withdrawn

Hey now. Pussies can take a hell of a lot more abuse than dicks.

Heh, converting the money and energy of your parent's food, support, and basement into internet diarrhea since 19-whatever, eh?


The irony is, regardless of what that guy did, his actions resulted in a HUGE boost to discussing and collaborating on better Point-of-Sale systems. So, thanks SA for getting us focused on a much needed topic, even if it was obviously your original intention.

I'm also still a bit lost on the whole SA goon lied to Bruce == Bruce is a liar and should not be trusted. Someone please explain?

LOL! Some asswipe, with a s*it for a name, comes on this forum, thinking his "article" should be taken seriously, insults everyone, and is now demanding answers from people with actual work to do?

Why are you guys even acknowledging him?

Again, there's a huge difference between platonic love and romantic love. You can love your close friends, but you can be in love with only one person. I would ask if the love you feel for your parents is the same as you feel for your friends, and is the same that you feel for Jesus, but since you've apparently never been in love, this question is likely pointless.
The worst part of it is, Christians who are against homosexuality NEVER stop to ask if the love is one of "sexual relationship." Two guys together? "Sexual perversion!" and "you're going to hell!" That girl you were caught with, was it a "sexual relationship," or just "platonic love?" And if you two never did anything sexual, why was it perverse and sinful?



I base my moral compass on whether something is causing harm or hurting someone. Do you know what the one main difference is between rape and a consensual relationship? Or between any of those things you listed, and a heterosexual or homosexual relationship?


Eh, fair enough. I just thought that the quote I provided was a more detailed and more precisely worded one. Heck, I even used the original language part for that quote. Is the original language word, which translates into "male prostitute" not good enough?  And what about my question regarding the bible condemning lesbianism? Where in the bible does it say that the relationship you were busted for was a sin? (or are you trying to avoid this question too?)


Frankly, I don't even remember the details of why Saul is so pissed at Jonathan. But let's really be honest. Does the passage actually "describe" Jonathan's mother as being naked, as that "explanation" says? Looking at the passage, it seems to just say that Jonathan's actions, whatever they were, have "brought shame of [his] mother's nakedness." What kind of action can bring shame similar to someone else's nakedness? Why does Saul use this old oft-used term about bringing shame in such and such a way? What action is Jonathan being accused of that is being called perverse and shameful, as opposed to, say, hurtful, foolish, or something that would cause Saul to simply be angry? Sorry, but the explanation given by that page is extremely weak. For a book with god as the editor, that is some REALLY weird choice of words.


You avoided the question, and, ironically, you were actually the one who simply repeated what was already being said there. So, let me bold it for you:
Why would Jonathan, upon meeting David for the fist time, give up his most prized possessions in a show of giving himself up to David's power? i.e. Those two never met before, and Jonathan just suddenly goes, "Oh, hi. Here's my stuff, and I'm giving my power over to you." Why? How are we supposed to understand his actions?


I have copied that one piece of text for ease, but you're assuming that I haven't verified them. My words and my understanding of this are my own, not God's or anyone elses. They are not words I have simply been force-fed by my parents and church, but rather ones I have come to after thinking about this for a very long time on my own.
As for you, how do you know that your words are not the words of Satan? He can make you feel happy, content, and very self-righteous too, you know.


Ah, yeah, sorry, it's that thing about you not knowing what is platonic love and what is romantic love. A kiss like that likely implies a romantic relationship. People don't cry and kiss when they are forced to part.  Not even in cultures where they kiss to say hello. No one else in the bible has ever parted that way either. Frankly, I don't know of any cultures where kissing to say good bye is just a normal, casual thing.


Not attempting to troll, and if you just brushed that off as such, that's rather sad. But I guess I can keep history lessons out of it. (though you'd be surprised how many gays have actually contributed to your religion to make it what it is today)

People have sex at anime/comic conventions? I thought that was impossible for geeky/nerdy types without some sort of fluffy covering to hide what they actually look like?

Ok, you got me there 

Well ain't that some sh*t (in a specific use of the word). Conduct within the United States can be charged with violation, even if the conduct occurs outside the United States? Huh???

Oh yes, I'm quite aware of all this. Personally, it bothers me to see so many companies require all disputes to be handled through arbitration instead of public court when you sign contracts with them.
But that doesn't mean that the system can't be improved, or a more transparent system specifically dealing with international law and international currency can't be established. That project is still in it's infancy right now, but with so much outsourcing, offshoring, cloud services, etc, it is DESPERATELY needed. Granted, that project is very much beyond the scope of this forum  

One suggestion is another more-or-less libertarian system: private arbitration. Those types of "courts" already exist, and perhaps with this can be expanded on even more (like, a company willing to submit to arbitration in various locations around the world, with the decision being enforced by the legal system of the country where the dispute happens). It can get really complicated really fast, though, but that also probably means that there is a huge untapped market for online- and bitcoin- specific arbitration courts. Perhaps even putting up some publicly verifiable collateral (Bitcoin) with a third party as a part of your initial business start-up costs will help with establishing reputation, too (e.g. as a start-up, you have %80 operating cash, and 20% collateral cash held with escrow or arbitration service, from which payments are made to customers who were harmed, or to stock holders if the business fails. Then as business reputation and cash flows improve, the %20 gets adjusted to %10, and so on. This way the business can still claim that 20% as part of their company asset/equity, and will have an incentive to do whatever it can to reclaim that money for personal use).
I agree that a large part of the enforcement will also simply be customers not wanting to deal with you if you sound shady.

Is GLBSE based in USA? Does it transact using American currency? Then why would the SEC have any authority over it?



You're confusing "GLBSE" with "Companies listed on GLBSE." GLBSE is just a service. Some of the companies it lists will be scams, some will be risky businesses, and some will be good businesses. It's not that a "company is innocent till proven guilty," it's that the company is an unknown until it is researched, establishes itself, and becomes known. There's no guilt or lack of it (unless the business is exposed as a scam). No one should ever invest in anything they don't know about, anyway, and, hopefully, most of the companies listed on the GLBSE that did not provide any business details were not invested in, either.

(Not sure if any Android developers are still on this forum, but...)

On the screen that confirms that you have sent money (if there is one), it would be useful to see the current updated balance of the address you send the money to. Not sure how it would be implemented (Connected to blockexplorer.com? Pulled directly from network communications?). The reason I believe this will be useful is if, say, a restaurant brings out a bill with a QR code to a table with a lot of people without splitting the bill, each person paying will be able to easily keep track how much has been paid to that address, and how much is still left to pay. A network-based confirmation of payment receipt would also be useful for the payer other situations as well.