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6561  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to $100k in 2021 on: November 14, 2020, 03:33:06 AM
~snip~
A lot of people who holding bitcoin right now will stop holding even when it's reached 200% from $15k to $30k .

They would think it's enough, and i do believe there only few people who stand till the end if the price really touches $100k.
It's just the same thing when people sees bitcoin at $500 back in 2016 2017 , those who holding $500 to $10k ... i bet very few. They lured to sell it off once they sees the profit is more than enough at $1500 which it's 300%.
So yeah hard to believe there would be a lot of people being loyal waiting and hodling till that price from now.

Perhaps people who don't hold bitcoin in a large amount will still hold their bitcoin, but for people who hold a large amount of bitcoin, they can sell in a large amount of bitcoin, and they will wait for the correct time that will happen after the price reach the peak price.

Although I don't have much bitcoin, I will still hold my bitcoin and wait for the price touches $100k to make me get a bigger profit. But I will also sell my bitcoin when the price can touch more than $20k because that is the last time I sold my bitcoin at the highest price a few years ago.

In 2016-2017, people didn't imagine if bitcoin can touch $10k, and once the price reaches that price, they sell in a rush and quit from the crypto market for a while until all of the coin prices is drops significantly.

So right now, I think people will still waiting until the price can be more than $20k, perhaps less than $30k to sell their bitcoin because they want to make a big profit after waiting for a long time ago.
6562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why most of us are losing money in sports betting? on: November 14, 2020, 02:32:18 AM
I agree that if we have a losing streak it is better to rest first and stop playing gambling for a while. So that our minds can be calm
and not stressed, because we force gambling when we experience successive losses, only makes us lose even more money. If our
minds have calmed down, we can maximize our abilities when playing gambling.

Usually, after a losing streak, we will feel hard to stop playing gambling because we are still curious about the last gamble. We believe that our analysis is good, and we have the right selection to choose the team, but suddenly, the situation changed, which makes us lose the money.

We need to force ourselves to stop for a while to calm down our tension and mind because that can help us clear the mind. And after we can feel better, we can try to place another bet on another team, which we believe that we have a chance to win. But don't overconfident with our analysis because everything can happen in the field.
6563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler living in England makes a $5M bet on Trump on: November 14, 2020, 01:31:33 AM
~snip~

Yes, what you’re saying is very true.
Before he gambled with a bet of that size, previously there must have been many other gambling in his life history.
And there will be more gambling, even if he has lost a lot. A gambling enthusiast won’t care how much he loses money, he’ll keep gambling.
Sometimes gambling will also remove fatigue from the daily busyness that he has been through.

I guess that too because if he is only playing gambling in his free time, he will not use a too big amount of money because he will be aware of losing the money if he is playing gambling too long. But as we know that he uses too big funds to gamble in the politics section, that could be mean that he was an active gambler.

But we never know for sure.

Yes, a gambling enthusiast won't care and won't stop gambling before filling his satisfaction in gambling. I thought that he needs to control his gambling habit for a while before he ruins himself (or he already got that?)
6564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler living in England makes a $5M bet on Trump on: November 14, 2020, 12:29:20 AM
~snip~

now I'm curious about this guys who made this bet after Biden successfully taken the seat.
I wonder if he's still gambling for some random politics sh*ts.

Nah, I guess he still regrets that. But he could still gamble for another politics Grin

That is gambling. Gambling can lead someone to bet more than he can. If that person can take the loss before, he will still gamble for another game. If he still has a passion for gambling on politics, he will search for another political gambling.

But after losing that huge money will not easy, no matter if he has a lot of money or not. But that bet will be on his memory for a long time.
6565  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's discuss: How big will the next correction be? And when will it occur? on: November 13, 2020, 05:52:10 AM
Finally, the bitcoin price can break $16k today, but the price stops to increase higher. The correction can happen anytime, and there are many possibilities to go down deeper, but I hope that the price will not go down below $14k. But that can be possible if people panic to see the price drops in a short time. But if somehow, the bitcoin price goes down lower than $14k, we can't do anything except following the price, but we have another chance to see bitcoin price will have the time to start another rally. This price is good enough to take the profit, but that will be up to you if you want to sell right now or later.
6566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum: $500, $400, or $800? on: November 13, 2020, 04:51:40 AM
$800 is still far away from the price now, but it surely can be reached in the future. Ethereum needs more time to go $800 because the price now still does not break the $500 barrier, but it could break that price this month. People always have much time to buy more ethereum while the price is not at $500, but they need to analyze more to find the right time to buy because right now, the ethereum price increases, and perhaps, you need to wait for a while until the price can down.

If you already bought ethereum at a lower price, perhaps, you can sell some ethereum at a price now to make a profit or wait for more until the price can break $500. I am sure that ethereum will go up and reach $500, $600, $700, and $800 in the future.
6567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to $100k in 2021 on: November 13, 2020, 03:51:13 AM
Either way, not insisting, I think it's likely, and near certainty in 2-3 years.  That's about it.  At 1% on the John McAfee spectrum.  Actually seems in-line with a fair portion of the bitcoin community on this. Maybe outside bitcointalk, haven't been here in a while.

Thank you for your prediction. We have less than 2 months to see the new year, and I am curious about what will happen to bitcoin next year. If the price really touches $100k in the next year, many people who hold bitcoin will become a millionaire because they will sell at the highest price. But bitcoin price has a difficult time to increase now after touching $15k, and the price now is not moving to a higher price.

But if the adoption process can start in the next year, perhaps, that can lift the price to start rallies and break every high price barrier. And in that year, we might see bitcoin price will make a new ATH. But we never know if bitcoin really head to $100k in 2021, and we can only wait for that time.
6568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is an entertainment? on: November 13, 2020, 02:48:19 AM
Most of the people states that gambling is form of entertainment but the reality is different gambling is like business where people look to make more money from investing little money but most of them will get failed.

So in your view gambling is business or entertainment,answer honestly. Cheesy
Honestly, gambling is an entertainment for me because when I get triggered I maybe lost my money soon. So I just enjoy it when I have some free time. Gambling helps me to pass some quality time with entertainment. I am not a regular person on gambling so that I am an expert one. But I try to win and enjoy it.

Not just for you because we need to use gambling as entertainment. If we use gambling to make money, we will not have a chance because we will lose the money, although, for some gamblers, they can make money from gambling. Perhaps, that is an exception because I think those gamblers who can make money from gambling must have something that will be needed to win, such as self-control, skills, and luck.

But as long as we can have fun playing some gambling games, I think we can enjoy staying in the gambling place. But remember that we need to know when to stop gambling, so we don't need to lose much money.
6569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost more in the process to recover ? on: November 13, 2020, 01:48:57 AM
You know what they say, you win some and you lose some. This will serve as a lesson but at least your not that kind of man that would rage because of losing. Although for me, I would instantly stop if I at least see my profit from my gambling since I'm not a high roller. Some guys are only playing to waste time and some people are playing because they wanted to earn.
Nobody will want to gamble to waste his/her time, if they can predict the future and know they will lose, then they will not gamble. Many people or most people that gamble play because they want to earn. But in the process when someone has lost already, he needs to just stop gambling at that point because he will be filled with bad/poor mindset that will be tempting him to gamble the more, and this is the period people are more vulnerable to losses.

The temptation of gambling will attract him to still playing gambling, especially if he losses the money. When someone doesn't have the power to control himself, he will still play gambling without thinking about the side effect that he can get. If he plays gambling from a long time ago, I don't think that he can directly stop gambling for a while to rest because the passion of curiosity will be there, making him continue playing gambling. The other thing that can make him continue gambling is because he wants to recover his losses before.

Perhaps, that is why we need to use gambling to kill time if we don't have another thing to do. Playing gambling is no problem for us, but we need to know when to stop gambling, so we don't lose more money. But don't even think to recover your losses because that will be too difficult.
6570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler living in England makes a $5M bet on Trump on: November 13, 2020, 12:39:41 AM
Perhaps the gambler from England who had bet as much as $5m have gone crazy. With the stakes not on target.
When a lot of big media support Donald Trump, he just believes, without analyzing and collecting data.
Because it turns out that the news is fictitious, and can’t prove Donald trump to win the presidential election right now.
But indeed, the country has a very high average salary, so for this gambler from England, $5m is not a big deal,
compared to the monthly salary he receives. Who knows?

Perhaps, that gambler addicted to gambling, and he doesn't realize that the money he used for betting was too big. Or he has a lot of money that he can use for gambling, so he will be okay if he losses that money. There are many opinions about him related to what he did in that gambling, but only he will know why. But for people who saw that amount, they will be amazing or shocked because the money was too big for them.

If he doesn't search for the data or does not analyze the data and only place the bet without valid data, he will lose in the gambling. That will also happen to us if we gamble without collecting data.
6571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Billionaire Hedge Fund Investor Reveals That He Owns Bitcoin on: November 12, 2020, 05:56:40 AM
In my opinion, there are indeed many rich people who buy Bitcoin as an investment in the digital world, it's just that these people don't know their investment in Bitcoin, maybe only close people who are told such as relatives, friends or wives. Because rich people like this very rarely tell or tell everyone about their investment with other people because this has to be really hidden to avoid unwanted things in the future.

People who have a large amount of money will not tell other people where they invest. They will still search for the investment they think can give them more profit, and bitcoin can be one of the many investments they will buy.

Those people can just buy or invest anything they want because they can use big money to do that. We don't know how many bitcoin they already purchased and when they will stop buying bitcoin because it seems they are still trying to buy bitcoin secretly. That makes sense if, in the future, when they sell their bitcoin, they will make a big profit because if the bitcoin price rise so high, they will only sell some small amount of bitcoin to get their initial money and will hold the rest of the bitcoin to waiting for the other highest price.
6572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BNB VS Eth - Invest in ETH since BNB is centralized on: November 12, 2020, 04:56:17 AM
This is one of the biggest problems I have as well. I know BNB is centralized and I know that how much BNB gains value depends on how great binance does and that centralized situation makes it difficult for me to get involved too heavily, however binance has a great track record and I can see them being awesome in the future, which is why I think it is quite important to follow them up and have some BNB to make a profit with all the things they are providing to it.

However we all know how awesome ETH is as well, it is THE coin for everything and it gets more and more popular every passing year, this year was specially exceptional and there is no reason not to buy ETH right now. It is a big dilemma that I can't seem to shake and I don't know which one to pick.

Perhaps, you can buy both, but you can give a big portion of ethereum and not give too big in BNB. Using that way, you can expect to make a profit from both coin ethereum and BNB. Ethereum and BNB are listed on many exchanges, so I think you can see that both ethereum and BNB will have a chance to increase in the future. But as we know that ethereum is bigger than BNB, I think ethereum will take the opportunity to rise high than BNB.

But that will be back to your funds, and make sure you can search for more info or analysis, so you can choose what coin you can buy later.
6573  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC $100K-288K before Dec2021 ? on: November 12, 2020, 03:47:32 AM
I don't think we can take this guy seriously because he did not challenge himself to eat his dick if his prediction did not come true, John McAfee did, so many speculators so many predictors, I don't want to ride on that kind of prediction but of course, will be happy if it reaches to that level, 2021 that's only two years, he has two years to convince whales to buy his prediction.

Good. We need to have our own target to sell bitcoin, so whenever people out there tell their prediction, we will not think much because we are waiting for our target sell price. We don't have to feel annoyed or bother with their speculation because I think we may get something behind on their prediction, which will be useful to us.

If the bitcoin price can really increase to $100K-288K before Dec2021, I am sure that we will be happy to sell bitcoin, even in the smallest part of bitcoin, because that really means for us.
6574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino workers forced into unpaid leave on: November 12, 2020, 02:46:08 AM
~snip~

And those employees that gets fired or forced to leave the company will get the first option to get back their position once the company re-open. Again, this is very difficult to all of us, we haven't seen or experienced this before, so as humans we need to re-adjust and survived in this situation.

But make no mistake about it, Pfizer is already on a breakthrough regarding a vaccine. So maybe next year if the plans go ahead as schedule we will see the first batch of the vaccine and maybe we can get back to where we used to be.

Although they have the first option to get back their position once the company reopens, I think they will not easily come to their company before because they can get a better job. But if they don't have any jobs, they will come back and work in that company, and even their salary becomes lower than before. Yes, it is a hard situation for all of us, but I am sure that we can adapt to this, and we can survive in these situations.

I heard that news, so we have hope regarding the vaccine because many people will save by the vaccine. I already heard that Brazil stopped testing its vaccine on their volunteer, but the government does not explain why. I hope that I am mistaken about that news because many people hope that the vaccine can be among them as soon as possible.
6575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost more in the process to recover ? on: November 12, 2020, 01:40:56 AM
If you don't know how to control yourself or you do not have a string of winning run don't ever think of trying to recover your losses, do not sit and think that you can recover your losses before you sit down and make a bet, there is already a very strong pressure to win and that pressure will keep you from thinking the right way on how to bet, you can make the right bet without feeling the pressure, because that's how to get entertained in gambling no pressure whatsoever.

Many gamblers think that they can recover their losses, even if they already lose money before. The tempt of gambling always attracts them to back playing gambling, which makes them lose control over themselves, and of course, they are losing more money. Perhaps, they can sit down for a while and take a deep breath to realize that they don't have a big chance to recover their losses. The pressure and the tension in gambling will become bigger in that time between stop and continue playing gambling, and in this matter, they really need to have control for themselves.
6576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino workers forced into unpaid leave on: November 12, 2020, 12:35:06 AM
This is a situation everyone is facing during this situation and most of the companies have cut down the salary by half and majority are not even giving the employees any pay for the past several months because this is an unprecedented situation we never faced in a very long time and even if everyone working in the gambling industry wanted to switch jobs it is not that easy.

It is better to receive the cut down the salary than to get fired by the company because they can still receive the salary although the amount is reduced. They can still try to survive, and they can still search for another job to live. The employee will not feel better if they are fired because they will difficult to search for the other job while they need money to buy daily needs. This year is a difficult year for all people in all countries. Behind this, we will have a bright future as long as we don't give up to try to survive.
6577  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC $100K-288K before Dec2021 ? on: November 11, 2020, 05:43:26 AM
I never heard of that blogger, but he has good speculation about bitcoin price that will touch that price in Dec 2021. We will see so many speculations about bitcoin price in the next year, especially if bitcoin price can increase more than $20k or $50k in the next new ATH. People will always make their speculations based on what happened with the bitcoin prices. But unfortunately, that still be predictions, and we don't know if that will happens or not in the future.

We should focus on what we see now than to focus on the search for speculations or predictions. We can follow the bitcoin price journey from now on, and we can try to buy more and more bitcoin if we think that the price will increase to the highest price (that will happens soon). The important thing now is how we can have more and more bitcoin to prepare for the high price that can come anytime to make a lot of money from bitcoin.
6578  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin break its previous ATH record of 20K before end of 2020? on: November 11, 2020, 04:41:17 AM
History always repeats itself but you never know when it does. The Bitcoin made all time high record back in 2017, the track record of BTC is that every three years it breaks it ATH record.

Who knows? You and I are essentially guessing despite all the track records and patterns Bitcoin left all those years.

But it is possible that the previous ATH will repeat in the same month this year and eventually be broken right after. We seem to have all the reasons to believe that it will happen. There are large institutional investors which are now showing a lot of confidence in Bitcoin by having a good portion of their funds devoted to it.

Perhaps, that is right. But we don't know if the new ATH will happen the same as what we predict. It is too difficult to predict when it comes because bitcoin patterns will not be the same from time to time. We could only prepare for the coming of the bull run by buying a lot of satoshi from now on, so we don't miss the chance to sell bitcoin at a high price.

Perhaps, bitcoin price will touch $20k this year or next year, but to make a new ATH will still need more time. We don't know how high the next ATH, but I guess that the bitcoin price will pass $20k.
6579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BNB VS Eth - Invest in ETH since BNB is centralized on: November 11, 2020, 03:41:59 AM
I have both ethereum and BNB, but I don't hold it for the long term since I think ethereum and BNB will be good to sell after the price increase and buy back again if the price is down. The price of both ethereum and BNB still up and down, and both coins are behind bitcoin. If you want to have a long-term investment, bitcoin will be the best investment because having bitcoin is enough as an investment. The altcoin can be another short term investment, so if you see the price is good to sell, you can sell it right away.
6580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost more in the process to recover ? on: November 11, 2020, 02:39:40 AM
Most of time this happen to newbie in gambling as they lost some money they try to recover and this process give them really bad shock because its not a usual business and in this process they mostly some good amount even many fail and go to default which create more problems for them so my best tip is never try to do this just try to play with your fix funds and if lost then take time or if you not able then leave this because its best for any one.

it doesn't just happen to newbie because gamblers who have experienced will still get this kind of error again and again. I don't understand, maybe they think something like this is a challenge so they keep trying to make recovery even though it's hard to achieve

No matter if we are a newbie or experienced gambler, we will play more gambling games to recover our loss. When they think that is a challenge, they will not have a chance to hold their money because the tension will be higher, and it can make them use all-in of their money. But that will happen only if we don't have good control for ourselves, so we can lose more to recover the losing money. That is not good for losing more money in gambling to recovering your losses because you will only lose more money.
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