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661  Other / New forum software / Re: If we want a proper testing of Epochtalk, we need at least the Beta site back! on: March 03, 2020, 04:54:02 PM
    Ok, here's what's going on. It does save an empty signature but doesn't update the profile page so it still shows the signature after I hit Save. The signature goes away if I refresh the page. Still a bug IMO. If I change a signature to a non-empty one it shows up immediately.

    Seems adding a signature is initialized and displays info without refresh. Deleting does not. Will have a look into this

    No e-mail notifications for PMs.

    True... added on the to do list

    How do I run unit tests? I made some code changes, need to verify it doesn't break anything.

    My best advice is to run circleci in your repo where you forked epochtalk

    A few things I've noticed:

    -Image drag/drop is glitchy with multiple images. When dragging/dropping 2 (or more) images (back-to-back), the [img] tags get created, but in preview it usually doesn't show the 2nd image at all, if you post it, it clears out the 2nd [img] tag. I've found I had to hit 'enter' at least once or twice between each drag/drop to get it to post correctly.


    Could not really replicate this. https://coinbistro.com/threads/0ikKhHejRWmWWV3R8l6EgA/posts?start=55#Nly-V65FSZmJsrtdDG8eZg worked with images in a row and on separate rows

    -Also related, drag/drop of one or many images with no text doesn't allow 'send reply' to be hit.

    -No drafts capability for new messages.

    I know this was an issue but thought it was fixed. We have version e5bf006c on Coinbistro https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/commits/e5bf006c
    It would display it in the Admin panel top left as "Running version:....."
    Yeah, drafts... Noticed that but the guys did not get to it yet

    -Also with new messages, when moving to 'preview', the window gets the focus (hitting the delete key will close the window, wiping the message). Same thing happens when switching back to 'compose', the window itself stays with the 'focus', not the text box, and hitting the delete key (thinking you're deleting text) will close the message window entirely, wiping the message, due to the aforementioned lack of draft capability.
    I found that out after writing a pretty big post... Was pretty pissed.
    I assume it was an added feature with a small bug. For example you can change between pages in a thread and the text box will not close. Only if you leave the thread then you lost the post.

    More PM weirdness:


    • I can't send a PM to myself. I should be able to.
    Never tried to PM myself, but makes sence
    • I can send a PM to DefaultTrustList. I don't think I should be able to.
    Would hate to see that inbox. Smiley) Will add some restrictions
    • There is no visual difference between sent and received, read and unread messages. All messages in the list look exactly the same.
    That should be solved by the notifications in the header, tho I agree some slight differentiation should be made
    • If I type in a non-existent username (or my own) and try to send a PM to it I get a non-descriptive error message "Failed to create conversation". It should tell me that the user doesn't exist.
    Will see about these custom errors. The input box is bolded red for what it's worth
    • When it fails "to create conversation" my message disappears. So if I type a lot of text and then misspell recipient's username - all my work is gone.
    same as for posts. Once draft module will be in place should fix that and some restrictions like "start new conversation"/"reply" not active if username not correct
    • If I try to send a message to multiple recipients and some are non-existent - there is no error message.
    • Paging with back/forward buttons is not scalable. I have 150+ pages of messages on Bitcointalk. It would take me 150+ clicks to get to my oldest messages on Epochtalk. Probably 200+ clicks, since the page size is set to 15 with no way to change it.
    the format is changed. did you PM with 3000+ different users ? might be possible I guess. Will talk to the guys about pagination.
    • No sorting.
    • No search.
    Fair enough...
    • No labels.
    Do not have that many PMs in order to start using labels. I guess did not think about them
    • No option select and delete multiple messages at once.
    • No option to quote a message in a reply (the need is somewhat minimized by the threaded layout but it is still needed).
    Fair enough...
    [/list]

    What's so special about 3+ hyphens that I can't post them but I can post one or two?

    There is some weird voodoo with those hyphens.
    If you write only 3hyphens it shows a HR in preview (but cannot post). Because "- - -" actually is HR and somehow is confused by the spaces.
    BBCode is a separate discussion on it's own.
    I'll try to give them examples of what is wrong and will see later. Will definitely have a few more iterations .

    Thanks for all the feedback !
    662  Other / New forum software / Re: If we want a proper testing of Epochtalk, we need at least the Beta site back! on: February 26, 2020, 08:20:53 PM
    Hey ! You copied my avatar ! Not cool dude ! Smiley)

    I saw that earlier today also. Was added on the to-do list. Not sure what caused it yet
    Oh well... back to the drawing board !
     
    663  Other / New forum software / Re: If we want a proper testing of Epochtalk, we need at least the Beta site back! on: February 26, 2020, 12:12:01 AM
    Why limit it at all? Let the admin decide if it should be 64k or 10MB.

    Just a random number I guess. Could have been 100k ... dunno. Anyway there needs to be a limit in the code. For the time being it's 25k. Mega easy fix tho Smiley

    Are you saying you can save an empty signature?

    Yup Smiley
    With sig

    Without sig (empty)


    Tor Browser. ... As for the tabs, technically it doesn't log me out in the current tab but the new tab is not logged in.

    Interesting behavior! Will try to test/replicate first and them inform the guys.

    Thanks again for the feedback! Really appreciate it !  Wink
    664  Other / New forum software / Re: [LIST & Disscution]Epochtalk Additon Features request. on: February 25, 2020, 10:34:30 PM
    I understand why someone would propose this, but does not seem to be the correct approach in it's current format.
    I honestly doubt a pay-per-PM module would be accepted.
    The second best thing I can think of is "Receive PM ONLY from trusted users". And based on each user's trust depth the userbase would be smaller or larger. Also keeping the current "restrict PM from newbies" option.
    665  Other / New forum software / Re: If we want a proper testing of Epochtalk, we need at least the Beta site back! on: February 25, 2020, 10:10:31 PM
    Thread list in a board can't be sorted.

    The logic is there. They have sorting in member search and in admin panel. Will be added for threads also

    Attempting to edit a thread title throws an exception in the backend.

    This is new Smiley) we're on it !

    An option to paste images directly from clipboard would be far more useful

    That really does sound useful. Will talk with the guys about this. See what can be done.

    Couldn't find a way to move a single post to another thread or to split a thread

    Split and merge not available yet

    BBCode issues

    We'll have a meeting on that front and discuss what to do about that

    Post size is limited to 25k characters - less than the current Bitcointalk limit of 64k

    Will change limit to 64k. Until then it can be changed from the source-code.
    modules/ept-configurations/routes/update.js
    modules/ept-frontend/client/admin/settings/general.html

    It's impossible to remove a signature. Saving an empty signature doesn't work.
    Opening forum links in new tabs logs me out. I use tabs a lot so that's a major deal breaker.

    Sorry but I don't have the above issues on my end.
    What browser do you use ? Weird that it logs you out in new tab. Never happened to me (yet)
    666  Other / New forum software / Re: If we want a proper testing of Epochtalk, we need at least the Beta site back! on: February 21, 2020, 12:54:51 PM
    I love your enthusiasm Grin

    awww  Grin

    Been helping out to the best of my knowledge for some months now. Been in contact with Slickage on a weekly basis at least.
    BTW that issue with double posting is already waiting to be merged to master: https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk/pull/769

    You are correct about the requirements docs and we tried to provide such info to them in order to have a clear vision.
    It will still take some time, that's for sure, but I like to think we went a long way in the meantime.

    The editor clearly needs an overhaul but also needs to be 100% compliant with current way posts are made/edited/displayed. That might mean a more spartan like editor (for bitcointalk at least). We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

    Thanks again for all your input !  

    667  Other / New forum software / Re: If we want a proper testing of Epochtalk, we need at least the Beta site back! on: February 20, 2020, 06:39:39 PM
    Set UTC (or some other timezone different from your actual timezone) in your account settings.

    Got it ! The offset logic not added to quotes.
    Should be a relatively easy fix. Thanks for pointing it out

    Did you have to remove newlines from my post?

    Yes I did. The editor is still WIP on a few features.

    Click "+ Post Reply" in a thread. Enter some text. Double-click "Send Reply". The post gets posted twice.

    Tried a few times and was denied by post rate limitations. But the request was clearly sent twice. Found the sweet-spot eventually. Thanks again !

    The issues pointed out are already on their github page.
    We'll try to channel our inner "Supreme Leader Kim" and maybe surprise a few faces... after that issue list on github thins down Cheesy
    668  Other / New forum software / Re: If we want a proper testing of Epochtalk, we need at least the Beta site back! on: February 20, 2020, 12:25:07 PM
    Some issues are trivial, like spelling errors:

    "Tesing board" , "presists" ... you are right. Luckily those are just some .html files that can be corrected instantly once caught

    Timezones are broken

    They recently changed the logic behind timezone offset (so each user can set their own GMT+/- local time) Tried it a few times but worked for me. Not sure what to say on that front. Could not replicate it
    This is the quoted post: https://coinbistro.com/threads/0ikKhHejRWmWWV3R8l6EgA/posts?start=37#NbTt-Mu4QJSXrWVezjRPyw - post #37 (post hyperlink does not take you to the actual post. Takes you to the top of the page. Used to work but got broken between lines of code. Would be fixed in the next release that should be merged in the next few days. They are working on some UI refactoring and was told that issue should be solved)

    Some quote tags don't display post link/timestamp at all. I don't have a screenshot but IIRC it happens when thread ID has an underscore in it.

    Nice catch! Even got a thread ID with underscore in the first try Smiley) Will forward this and see why is it acting like that and fix it

    Admin panel: created a category, created a board, dragged the board to the category, hit Save - board disappeared. No idea why. Next time it worked correctly. Then I started dragging another board, changed my mind, dropped it back into Uncategorized Boards - it disappeared. Drag-n-drop itself is clunky. The following board will end up in EpochTalk Testing despite me holding it on top of (or even slightly below)

    Again... works for me. Those temporary glitches are a real pain in the ass because if you cannot replicate you don't know what to fix. Regarding the last part just seesm the break point is not at the middle on the category button. A few more mm below and would have worked as advertised.

    And then there is usability... or lack thereof. I'm gonna give it the benefit of the doubt and assume I just don't know how to configure something, although I'd think it should be user-friendly out of the box. For example the post editor. On Bitcointalk you click a button - you get a smiley, you click another button - you get image tag, etc. Do I have to type everything by hand in Epochtalk? Image drag and drop doesn't work.


    Currently has a legend and would need to type them urself. Some buttons and smileys would be a net asset. Will be added on the to-do list (if not already there)
    Image drag'n'drop works on my end. Tested it with local storage and with amazon AWS bucket. Admin-settings-general-image server configuration try to tinker a bit there.

    I haven't yet found a way to put two lines of text on top of each other without a blank line in between, other than to use something like a bullet list.

    Has some faults there. Tried to replicate your post here: https://coinbistro.com/threads/0ikKhHejRWmWWV3R8l6EgA/posts?start=40#8twUqUb-T9GSfGYUHyDGjw   post #40 . Looks decent IMO altho had to edit the post a bit. We'll be needing some rules for spacing. Ignore first new line after quote/img/etc. Will look furhter into it.
    Still work in progress on that front. A bit hard tho as they set out to rebuild the SMF BBCode parser and is more than challenging. Even current devs at SMF don't fully know how it manages to work and has comments in the github source "// Hm. That's weird. Well, just prepend it to the list and let the user deal with it". But that's another story

    If you put three hyphens on a line like this

    ---

    The hyphens disappear... Apparently there is some sort of markup allowed (in addition to bbcode)

    There is some strange voodoo with those hyphens. Will look into it. Thank you for pointing it out Smiley

    Double-clicking the "Send Reply" [sic] button will duplicate posts (no warning).

    Don't understand what button you're talking about...

    Don't know about you but I found this to be very productive! Thank you so much for your input and for taking the time to install Epochtalk.
    As I said before, any advice or critics is one more step towards the goal.

    ~~~

    As a forum software it has some issues here and there but my personal impression is pretty good.
    As the new house for bitcointalk ... there still is a lot of work to be done. But is achievable!
    Thank you also for your assistance and hope you get some more free time now and again Tongue
    669  Other / New forum software / Re: If we want a proper testing of Epochtalk, we need at least the Beta site back! on: February 20, 2020, 02:09:14 AM
    Now that we have Epochtalk running on a few servers/VPS let't try to have a discussion about it.
    Just saying it is horrible will not help anyone.
    For the good of everyone involved let's have a discussion about what you found to be good/bad/meh/missing (doesn't matter if the issue was already mentioned or not) and see where it needs to be improved, what features are missing so we can have feature parity and then quality of life things.

    I finally got ET installed and it's quite horrible.
    Can you please detail what you found so horrible ? Would appreciate some more info on that. Maybe we can fix something. Find a solution...

    There needs to be a somewhat dedicated person with QA experience for testing it if there isn't one already. Random users poking around won't cut it.
    Since coinbistro.org I have tried to test and find issues and missing features(with explanations) so the guys working on it have some clear goals in mind. Found a few of them in the meantime...
    Today mole0815 opened an acc there and started messing around. And found a flaw that I clearly missed. Will it cut it ? Probably not but it surely helps and that is the whole point of a community !
    This is an open source project. Anyone is more than welcomed to join in and contribute as much as they can, with advice, bug report, critics, trolling, FUD...anything.

    First let's have User Testing. Once a majority or theymos is satisfied with the result we'll talk about the pro QA guy/gal Smiley
    670  Other / New forum software / Re: Epochtalk installation readme on: February 18, 2020, 02:52:49 AM
    Are you sure this is supposed to work?

    Seems I forgot that part needs some TLC as well
    This should do the trick

    Code:
    $ node cli create-user <username> <email> --password <password> --admin
    as an example
    $ node cli create-user suchmoon suchmoon@domain.com --password  myrandompass --admin

    BTW "mix ecto.setup" in step 5 creates a board named "Tesing Board" (spelled exactly like that), not sure why that's needed.

    A dummy board never hurts (with our without typos) Tongue
    671  Other / New forum software / Epochtalk installation readme on: February 17, 2020, 11:13:09 PM
    @iasenko asked us for a helping hand for all those who would like to install and use Epochtalk
    The readme was recently updated and thought useful to also have it here.
    https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk
    Will update thread if anything changes
    For issues you can drop a question here or open an issue on their github repo. May look scary to some but not that bad once you get the hang of it.


    Edits:
    - Updated with latest release 1.32.14


    Features

     - Epochtalk is a single page web application created with AngularJS
     - Web/Mobile ready responsive design using Bourbon
     - Code is bundled and loaded as needed, for performance, using Webpack
     - Designed with performance in mind. Epochtalk's backend utilizes Postgres as a database.
     - Customizable Theming (Branding, coloring, fonts, sizes)
     - Fully modular permissions system with roles



    System Dependencies (you need to have these installed on the server/VPS)

     - node
     - yarn
     - Postgres
     - Redis
     - Nginx



    Installation

     1. Checkout repository using git:
    Code:
    $ git clone --single-branch --branch v1.32.14 https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk.git

     2. SSL and Nginx setup:
    Install an SSL cert and edit the nginx .conf file (located /etc/nginx/default.conf) with server info and SSL cert info

     3. Change directories to /epochtalk and install dependencies using yarn:
    Code:
    $ cd epochtalk
    $ yarn

     4. Copy the example.env file
    This file specifies the server configurations and is necessary to run the server. You can edit the .env file later to specify the configurations as outlined in the Configuration section.
    Code:
    $ cd .. # cd back to project root
    $ cp example.env .env
    You need to rename that file to ".env", so there is no name before the extension

     5. Checkout and Run Migrations
    Note: If you do not have brew installed, you must manually install Elixir
    Code:
    $ cd .. # (or just change directories outside of the epochtalk directory)
    $ brew install elixir # this installs elixir so we can run epoch migrations
    $ git clone git@github.com:epochtalk/epoch.git
    $ cd epoch
    $ mix deps.get # install project deps
    $ mix ecto.setup # create and migrate epochtalk database
    $ cd ../epochtalk # change directories back to epochtalk root

     6. Initialize First User
    First ensure that Postgres is installed and running. Before running Epochtalk for the first time, it is necessary to setup the database and first user account. The CLI tool will create the first board and admin account for the forum. From the root directory of the project run the following command:
    Code:
    $ node cli create-user <username> <email> --password <password> --admin

     7. Start the Epochtalk server
    Running the "yarn run serve" command will start the Epochtalk webserver and compile all JavaScript and css. Once the server is running, the forum can be viewed at http://localhost:8080
    Code:
    $ yarn run serve

     8. Log in and change admin account information
    Login to the admin account using the username and password set at step 6. Visit your profile by clicking the link in the top right corner of the page, then change your username and password.



    Configuration
    Forum configurations can be set either manually or using the admin panel.

     - Manual Configuration
    The forum server configs can and must be set manually with a .env file in the root directory of the project.
    Code:
    DATABASE_URL="postgres://localhost/epochtalk_dev"
    HOST="localhost"
    PORT="8080"
    PUBLIC_URL="http://localhost:8080"
    REDIS_HOST="localhost"
    REDIS_PORT="6379"
    REDIS_AUTH_PASS=""

     - Admin Panel Configuration
    Some configurations can also be set using the settings tab in the administration panel.


    Congrats, you have a forum !
    672  Other / Meta / Re: Report Malware and Suspicious Links here so Mods can take Action ! on: February 17, 2020, 06:12:26 PM
    User : mokbor  please ban that User for plagiarism

    I would add this one also to the fake ann / malware group.
    All our evidence points to that Smiley
    673  Other / Meta / Re: Add link to the rules in the PMs for deleted posts. on: February 14, 2020, 02:49:48 PM
    I had one post with a ref link and a quote of it. Is this considered spam? I am asking because I had them deleted.

    Ref links are not allowed with 2 exceptions: if you put them in your signature (but don't advertise it. LOOK AT MY SIGNATURE PEOPLE !! CLICK IT! JUST DO IT !) or as personal text. They should not be in the post itself Smiley

    Not sure what to say about the main topic tho. I tried sending PM a couple of times. Saw a brand new account spamming some silly stuff (hello all or something similar) and after deleting the post also sent them a PM trying to explain and providing the link to the unofficial rules thread. Considered it a test. Did this 3-4 times tho. No reply to my PM and no more posts for any of them. Maybe I picked wrong, not sure what to say.
    Maybe they get intimidated seeing that post with the rules.
    Maybe we just need a "common sense rules". Something similar to this:

    "Hi there newbie,

    Please don't treat this forum like facebook and try to post some actual ideas, not one sentence spam,
    Please try to stay on topic and follow the post flow,
    Please do not add reflinks in your posts,
    Please do not use shortened links,
    Please add source link when copying something because plagiarism is a ban-able offense here
    On the main boards write in english. you also have local boards for discussions in other languages,
    Try to be decent human beings

    Your posts will probably get deleted by mods if you break the rules above, or can even get you banned.
    For a more in depth view see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657 "

    Regarding the automated PM... that pretty much depends on mods. If they agree to leave a reason for deleting the post. Even if they are 100 reports or 5000 reports. Suppose some legendary users around here get the following message: "...deleted due to off-topic spam".(because this is also subjective) I can already smell the meta drama.
    Good idea... waste of time ... that is the million btc question.
    674  Other / Meta / Re: Ban account! For what? on: February 02, 2020, 01:12:17 PM
    Looks like ban evasion


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    ETH wallet: 0x934BfD744f4F53fD4f9Cf30D110A7067082c7790

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    675  Other / Meta / Re: Please add merit details to showposts on: January 31, 2020, 12:25:08 PM
    Might be a nice thing to have, not sure. Might be easier to erase the 120 days limit for merit display on the merit profile page tbh. Tho for users like Loyce you most definitely would get timed out because there are MANY transactions.
    Even if it sounds cool, it might imply slight db changes and that would place it very low (if at all) on the to-do list
    But hey, that's just my opinion. Very easy to code from scratch, damn hard to add something extra on an already existing product.
    Quality of life suggestions seem to be postponed as much as possible.
    You would have better chances proposing this on epochtalk's github

    But if it's not that painful then by all means, I'm down for that !
    676  Other / Meta / Re: Report Malware and Suspicious Links here so Mods can take Action ! on: January 29, 2020, 06:17:47 PM
    But i dont know exactly if the Account from leond got hacked or not , but it looks like sold !

    Actually looks like silent hacking thb. Does seem like he has the same problem as that zenhu guy.
    That's what you get when you have a super weak password I guess..
    Thanks for the heads up !
    677  Other / Meta / Re: [Suggestion] Notification for new Post on the interested topics on: January 24, 2020, 11:52:49 AM
    I am not telling about the notification for the threads on which we have already posted. I am telling about the notification for the new threads that are created on the forum.

    Hope I understood correctly! You cannot select some preffered topics like "Faketoshi", "BTC Predictions", "Best ICO 2020" and when someone opens a thread with that topic you get an email/PM/push notification/robo call etc.
    It might be doable for new post in certain boards. But do you really want a notification for every post in a specific board??

    Use Show new replies to your posts and Watchlist. They get the job done Smiley
    678  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Hacking Attempt on: January 24, 2020, 11:45:13 AM
    When you forget your password there are 2 options:
         - Use username/email to receive a password recovery link (if email is not compromised there is nothing to worry about... on the other hand you would not know if email is compromised until it's too late... but let's be optimistic here...all's good)
         - Use the secret question option and if you get the answer right your account will be blocked and you will be email-ing us to unlock it

    Use a very strong secret question... or don't set up one at all !
    TBH if your email is compromised I would assume the forum account might not be in top 3 worst worries at that time

    I agree with NeuroticFish on the first part ... someone is trying to scare/warn/troll you.
    Regarding the IP ... wouldn't take it at face value. VPN, Tor, Proxy.... chances are even the "hacker" didn't know what IP he was using Smiley)

    I would propose to use ONLY email in the password recovery tho. Seems safer and harder for account farmers !

    P.S. Changed thread title for my post. May want to consider doing the same...
    679  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: January 23, 2020, 02:57:05 PM
    Trolling 101
    That is the entire OP, and thread name is "Ideas for copper membership". Not much more to add...

    What do you people think about this idea??
    680  Other / Meta / Re: Board-specific signatures on: January 23, 2020, 02:44:40 PM
    The ideea to save a few drafts for the signature and assign them to specific boards sounds very cool. Might be a added value for the companies that buy ad-space ( not all, as ChipMixer for example has their website only in english. Don't see much point in a banner in [insert language here] since their website is 100% english). For the users one benefit might be enrolling in multiple sig campaigns. You can spam for YOBIT in Altcoin Discussion and CM in Bitcoin Discussion Smiley) having mixed feelings about this (pun intended)


    And, more important, this forum main functionality (meaning the menus) is English. The huge majority of its users understand English even if they may prefer local boards.

    That's actually an interesting topic for another day. Majority of users may understand English enough to get around the site but localizing the user interface would still be very helpful I think. I'm not sure if this is solved in the Epochtalk software.

    I honestly don't think it got on the to do list
    It might work if when creating the board you enter from the beginning all translations and depending on user preferences they would be displayed in your preferred language.
    The rest is just html, so guess can be translated but would require some volunteers for that. About 90 *.html files from what I saw

    Main thing is if the (potential) user does not know what "forum", "post", "thread", "account settings" , "preferences" mean it is unlikely they would join a forum in the first place or be that aware of crypto in general tbh. IMO local boards are enough...
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