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661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 02, 2024, 03:46:55 AM
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Yeah, the current performance of Brazil is indeed disappointing. I hope within a few times Brazil overcome the position again with the talented players. However, considering their remarkable historical achievements, do you think they'll be able to bounce back in the upcoming games?

I am pretty much convinced that Brazil will be able to qualify for the world cup.

What we've seen so far is not the norm. Brazil is such a powerful team, they just have been a bit unlucky lately.

But I'm sure they will wake up from this.
662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 02, 2024, 03:45:22 AM
A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

Whenever you see something like this, ask yourself: "Why is this person sharing this knowledge with me?"

If it was such a great way of making money, they would just keep it to themselves, and continue making bank with that method.

Also, a gambling event is random by nature, so there's no expert opinion that would matter. Imagine someone tells you they are an expert on coin tossing guesses. Would you believe that?
663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: January 01, 2024, 12:47:41 PM
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That's right, in my opinion, someone who is addicted to gambling will find it difficult to recover from their addiction, because someone who is addicted tends not to want to see anything other than their addiction because they will only focus on gambling, which has become something they usually do. but in my opinion it depends on the level of addiction, if their addiction is serious it is possible that they will not be able to stop gambling and as you said they can go back to gambling and it might even get worse in the future.

and if their addiction is not too serious, chances are they can recover in a short time, but it also depends on themselves whether they really want to stop gambling or not, if they are still hesitant about stopping gambling, chances are they will return to gambling again. a certain time because they cannot control their desire to gamble, and even if they still gamble, I don't think they will gamble within the set budget, but to minimize the risk of serious gambling addiction, perhaps this can be done by reducing their gambling activities and by limiting each budget when they want to gamble, but even so it doesn't guarantee that they won't become addicted to gambling.

Yeah, it depends how deep in the addiction the person is.

Also it depends on the why the person wants to stop being addicted.

At the end of the day, addiction is a difficult thing to overcome, and it requires a lot of work and time.
664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 01, 2024, 12:44:43 PM
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In the 2026 World Cup qualifiers for the South American zone, Brazil is in 6th position in the standings with only 1 win from the 5 matches they have played and their performance is truly beyond many people's expectations while Argentina is still in 1st position with only 1 defeat from 5 the last match they played (then my favorite is still Argentina)
The mistake that Brazil is currently experiencing is the lack of effectiveness of the strategy given by coach Lorenzo, so Brazil's attacking power is really not sharp, especially now that Neymar is still injured. If Brazil only depends on Neymar, the Brazilian national team will not be able to have great success at the 2026 World Cup.

Yeah, the current performance of Brazil is really bad.

But Brazil is really one of the best, if not the best, team historically speaking.

There can be rough patches along the way, but they are a really strong team, and there are many more games to be played yet.

Things will probably change in the future.
665  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: January 01, 2024, 12:42:35 PM
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The mindset of rich people and the mindset of poor people are different. Rich people don't really care about winning or losing because the rich person's goal is to have fun while the mindset of poor people always has sky-high expectations for getting big profits. This is the difference between 2 camps that want different goals, one wants to be happy and the other wants to win. However, gambling don't discriminate whether the person is rich or the person is poor, because gambling luck is random, therefore we don't need to have expectations too high if it doesn't meet expectations.

In my opinion, it doesn't mean that poor people have a poor mentality. If they have a poor mentality, of course they won't take the risk of gambling even if they end up losing, indeed they are too hopeful about getting a profit, but they don't seem to give up to achieve it. Their mindset is indeed different from that of rich people. We feel the same way, of course we also hope that gambling will make a profit, but if we use an intelligent mindset, of course they don't think like that about gambling.

Yeah, absolutely.

Rich people is usually the result of someone having goals, plans, and executing them. Particularly in terms of making money.

That means that they are aware that gambling won't make them rich. Also, they already are rich anyway.

But a poor person, who might be great at many things, is usually not great at making money. And gambling is not a great way of making money, so they probably will be gambling more than the rich folks.
666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: January 01, 2024, 12:40:16 PM
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It's a very bad mistake if a gambler before carrying out gambling activities drinks large amounts of alcohol which makes him lose himself, whereas if the gambler plays slot games, I'm not sure he can last longer or even just a few spins, he loses without being able to control his mind because of the influence of alcohol. of course, you will continue to increase the number of bets or maybe bet all in in one spin or buy spin bonus.

I very rarely see gamblers who are affected by alcohol playing in slot games but usually they play in card games but if it is done in slot games I can't imagine what if he will run out of his savings in just a few hours because as you said if If you can't control your thoughts, you will definitely make another deposit while playing this slot game without being influenced alcohol. a gambler can lose control, even if he is influenced by alcohol, his savings balance will definitely be destroyed.

Yeah, if a gambler is drinking alcohol they will probably won't be able to play as good as they could possible be playing if they were sober.

At the end of the day it is all about the odds, but if the player plays skillfully then they can increase their odds a bit.
667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: January 01, 2024, 12:38:36 PM
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Yeah, I mean, when we see a new slot do we go to info section first? Who does that? It's good if we go there after several days of playing, but go there right away? And also it has made the way we forget about what was there in the info section in a minute. Our brain is wired to feel optimistic when some jars are getting fuller and fuller. We expect it's not for nothing.

This made me think of reading the manual when you buy something new  Grin

Some people will never read any manual whereas others won't even touch the new thing before reading it fully.

I guess it depends on the person.
668  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 31, 2023, 01:45:27 AM
A rich man will not look too disappointed if he loses $2000 dollars in a few seconds. He has the ability to lose the money. On the other hand, $200 is too much for a poor gambler. He may be betting for that money most of his time in a day or more. He is frustrated when he loses $200 instead of winning. Because he needs that money to meet the expenses of his family. He is desperate for $200 but if a rich person loss of $2,000 it wouldn't affect them. A rich gambler become normal in gambling in less time which is definitely difficult for a poor gambler. A rich gambler is able to enjoy stress-free gambling but poor gamblers don't get the opportunity.

Not too sure about that.

A rich person can easily bet and lose all their money as well.

What's stopping a rich person to bet $2k multiple times, or more actually?

It's the same in the end. The main difference is that a rich person is already rich, so they don't really need the gambling to become rich, so they don't really gamble as much as the poor person who wants to become rich.
669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: December 31, 2023, 01:42:09 AM
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Wow that's a though story, especially lying to your family about how you lost your tuition money. It's one thing to gamble with more money than we can afford to lose, and something completely different to lie to our family. I think at such a state we need to take a hard look at our gambling activities to see if we are not struggling and need to change something. At least for me it was important to always be honest with my friends and family, to not fall in the trap of having to build a house of lies. Usually one lie is not enough and it keeps building up until we will get caught or can't handle the pressure anymore. Life is already stressful enough and we shouldn't increase the burden on us. Losing is part of gambling and we should be owning up to it, the same as if we make a big win. To me it feels a bit like if we lie to someone else, it's not far from lying to ourself and that can lead to an addiction. We are responsible for our own actions and can't put the blame on someone else.

Yeah, the thing is that these actions don't occur overnight.

They start to happen after a long exposure to an addictive behavior. From the outside it might look extreme, but for the person inside, they only have changed a bit every day.

After a long time, that small negative daily change produces a vastly different person, capable of doing many things.

The same can be said in reverse, like going to the gym and lifting a bit more every day. After a year you are a different person capable of lifting way more than in the beginning.
670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: December 31, 2023, 01:39:39 AM
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It's important to approach gambling with responsibility and maturity, recognizing that losing bets is part of the game. However, transferring aggression to family or others is not justified. The designated age for gambling implies a level of maturity, and it's crucial to handle both wins and losses with grace.

How do you think society can better promote responsible gambling behavior among individuals of all ages?

Yeah, at the end of the day it is an addictive thing that can lead to a change in behavior of many people.

Just like alcohol and other substances, gambling can be detrimental for a person.

It's the responsibility of the gambler to actually know when to stop. Same as drinking alcohol or smoking.

It's easy to blame other people, but in the end the person in the mirror is the responsible one.
671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: December 31, 2023, 01:37:16 AM
I'm sure it won't be easy to stop. There must be a good person who wants to guide you out of there. You must learn to control your ambitions from gambling. Be sure gambling is not a shortcut to getting money, try to get money in other ways. If you think it's slow to get money, at least it's less risky than having to make gambling a place of dependence in making money.

If you manage to get money from other places and then putting all into gambling doesn't really sound like a great plan in the long term if you want to generate money really.

Gambling should probably be seen as a way to entertain yourself, with a limited amount. If you end up paying a lot more than what you are comfortable with, then there will inevitably be a problem.
672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: December 31, 2023, 12:33:07 AM
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That's why therapy remains one of the best methods of healing addiction. But people would think that therapy sessions is expensive and they don't know ways to afford them. But in the years of their addiction, they were able to generate money to finance their gambling habit. Forgive me, but it's quite unbearable to see that people easily fund what's dangerous to their health, but hardly could afford what's helpful to the brain. However, they may also lack the knowledge that, therapy doesn't necessarily have to be with a professional. Even the professional can not successfully handle therapy if the gambler is not comfortable with sharing his problems with the therapist. Therapy requires friendship, like building a relationship. The therapist only appears to be the type of friend that the addict has never met in his entire life. When that is achieved therapy begins to flow easily. They both can develop more bonds together and share problems and ways to tackle the dispute. Hence with these few experiences, an addict who is willing to change can confide in a friend he loves to act as his therapist. And it will work.

Same way friends could lead a person to gambling, another friend can also channel the person's brain out of gambling. But in whatever way the addict chooses to follow, time is the most precious commodity the addict needs to change his ill behavior. But I'm not sure that after therapy with a professional or not, the person would be able to stop gambling completely. He can be gambling normally, but won't waste on his money on gambling. Unless he has no access to the internet or a gadget, then I can accept that he won't gamble again. I could remember being glued to video games, but today may not be able to make plans on my own to play video games, but once I see people playing it, I'd be moved to participate. That's how it happens in any addiction in life. The addict only needs to stop being around the people that still partake in that activity.

Yeah, but in terms of blaming other people, the thing is that the gambler has the last word for their actions.

They can't really blame others because at the end of the day, every person controls their own life and behaviors.
673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: December 30, 2023, 05:11:13 AM
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I disagree with you. Those who become successful in gambling don't really rely on pure luck.

Some gamblers are betting on strategy-based games. These people use their skills to take advantage of gambling. There are lots of people who already reached being successful because they used their talent and skill as an advantage in gambling. Some of these talented people even got an opportunity to be scouted for their respective sports which allows them to build a professional career.

I will give you an example, PH Billiard Legend, Efren "Bata" Reyes. Use his talent in billiards in gambling until recognized and started to compete in international competition. He becomes successful from being a gambler to establishing a name in that sport.

Sure, if you are talented or skilled in some sports or games then you increase your chances to win.

But, at the end of the day, most games in the casino have bad odds for the gambler, which means that over time, the casino will win the money from the gambler.

There's nothing a gambler can do to win against the casino in the long term, because the odds are against them.
674  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 30, 2023, 05:09:12 AM
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Acknowledging the fact that the rich may possess better decision skills than the poor is fine, but not all would be able to perform well in gambling. Pierre2 in this response may have meant that due to the money the rich possess they are more relaxed while gambling than the poor. Because the rich have less reason to worry about money like a low roller would in his gambling journey. These few instances or differences are enough to justify the fact that high rollers have some advantages over low rollers. But it does not apply to all rich gamblers. In the years of gambling and reading articles relating to gambling, we've also seen some rich people who made huge losses that were enough to affect their net worth. Gamblers sold properties, just to gamble. I think the higher the bankroll of a gambler, his choices increase as well, thereby exposing him to a greater risk than the low roller. So the effect of gambling still works on everybody regardless of their monetary status.

The emotions as you mentioned, Nara, as humans we all can't escape them, that's why some rich gamblers don't control themselves too and put in more amount of money to secure a bigger reward capable of covering all their losses. However, it's certain, that gamblers who are experienced and have good strategies differ in this gambling application. One wouldn't compare an experienced high roller's wins to that of an experienced low roller's reward. This is where the changes of reward may matter, as the stakes now count. A lot of experienced rich gamblers bank lots of profits in one win, although it may not cover all their losses, it's like a nitro to keep them moving and motivate the gambler to perform better.  Therefore, the rich win more in cash than the low rollers. Both parties spend money, and that may not be accounted for in this comparison. No need to look at how much money the rich person has lost or the low roller. But, once in a while, the low roller could win a big amount of money that'll be big enough to compare to the high roller's profit.

Rich people are not suddenly more skilled at gambling.

When gambling everyone has the same odds, rich or poor. The thing is that the rich might have more disposable income, so they can lose more.

And the poor person might end up in financial ruin faster than the rich. But that's all, the odds are the same for both.
675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: December 30, 2023, 05:07:27 AM
There is some good news for Donald Trump. The Michigan Supreme Court has ruled that Trump can't be removed from the presidential ballots within the state for 2024 POTUS elections. Earlier, the Colorado Court had ruled to remove him. As the election date approaches, we can expect more and more desperate measures from the Democrats, as Joe Biden is trailing Donald Trump by a large margin in most of the opinion polls. They are hoping that Biden will make the cut, in case Ron DeSantis become the GOP nominee instead of Trump.

I think this is unprecedented in the history of the United States. Maybe I'm wrong though, but I don't think anything like this has happened before.

And to be honest, I think this only makes Trump more popular.

People are talking more about Trump than the current president of the US.
676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: December 30, 2023, 05:05:52 AM
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Yes, we need time to recover from addiction. It will depend on the wishes of each gambler. Some people can be able to finish the healing process from their gambling addiction in a short time and some people are not able to finish it and instead return to gambling again, where they become increasingly addicted to gambling. This really requires encouragement from various parties so that people who are addicted to gambling can try to heal themselves and be free from their gambling addiction. The person needs to reset his brain again so that there is no desire to gamble anymore and he will do various healing sessions to recover from his gambling addiction.

Yeah, also it's good to remember how long an addiction has been around.

You can't really change years of a specific behavior overnight.

It takes a long time to actually rewire the brain, but it is absolutely worth it.

You end up being a different person, because you literally change your brain over time.
677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: December 30, 2023, 05:04:31 AM
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Well, as people we must always accept something, that we have to be very emphatic in doing things so that we can do them well and Better , that is, if we are looking for a way to do the best in the game, there are times When we Will miss some details such as Maybe that is what we regret, but if we start to see all that it should be seen as a teaching and we Should not grieve , just learn, because sometimes we learn it is like that , no matter what bad Happens to us , then in View of this Well , you could say that when we are seeing what can be beneficial for us , it can happen that when we are in a casino there are multiple things and possibilities, sometimes we don't want to go and play or leave it there, sometimes we need to pay attention to That, perhaps if you had won, but that Brought other unwanted consequences, and that is what we do not see , things happen for a Reason, sometimes things happen because there is a much Greater Purpose to do.

When we are not About to do something , if we Get stuck it is because Something Better is Coming our way, maybe what had to happen was like this , it was not won but at least something was learned, and when you are in a game you will know how to act, For that reason we have to give everything and learn everything we can, this implies Earning or losing money, that is why everything we do is worth it, when things are not appropriate, there can be greater Forces that do not allow it just to protect ourselves, then when we see things from that point of view , everything usually changes, there is nothing more to do just accept things as they are, that is why when we are doing many things for our benefit, we have to consider each thing that we do , It happens and how it happens , things always have a Mystery , but we must learn to Accept them, and move on, because it is the only Way we can learn.

Yeah, learning is one of the best things you can do in life.

You can improve yourself, and that never actually expires. You can live a life where you learn every day, forever.

I don't think there are any limits in terms of personal growth.
678  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 27, 2023, 10:47:48 PM
Gambling is never the game of the rich winning more than the poor is the game of how lucky the player is and how far the player can go. We need to face the fact most people on the internet only share something they want the public to know about them.
A rich person may post how he/she won millions through a game but he/she will never tell or show the times he lost before the winning and the huge fund wasted along the line.

True, at the end of the day rich and poor have both the same odds, and there is also usually a maximum bet anyway in games.

The difference might be that the rich have more disposable income, so they can lose more money, and therefore their wins might seen higher in comparison (but also their losses).

As usual, gamblers only talk about their wins, so with the rich ones being larger, they attract more attention.

But in the end, most gamblers, rich and poor, end up with losses in the end. The rich just losses more.
679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: December 27, 2023, 10:45:04 PM
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That great but do many people do it?
Very few gamblers actually gamble with money they can afford to lose and of course most gamblers still view gambling as place to make money and when they lose they try to recover it.

I know what you said is quite good and there have been lots of similar suggestions and advice, in fact I personally often give the same advice.
But if we can always give advice like this, at least there will be benefits for beginner gamblers because there is some information and also warnings that they have to gamble with wiser approach and attitude.

Sometimes gambling is full of sadness and anxiety because they always lose, but gamblers are not aware of the risks in recovering from their losses, they will feel regret if their decision to recover from their losses actually results in much bigger losses.

Yeah, you're right.

And also there's the fact that many gamblers know this but still think it doesn't apply to them, that somehow they are "lucky".

That's also part of the story that casinos want to build, that special person that wins against all the odds, it makes it interesting.

And I understand why people gamble, because it can be fun and it can be very captivating, as the casinos know how to do everything to capture your attention.
680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: December 27, 2023, 10:41:41 PM
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Everyone who tries each of the presented methods will get different results and one method may not work for others. Indeed, addiction is complicated and you have to find ways that can successfully cure your gambling addiction. But at least there must be a desire from the person who is addicted to admit it and want to start healing their addiction. If not, it will be difficult to do because there will be rejection from him during his therapy.

People who undergo therapy cand recover even though it takes time to recover. They will see the results and make them happy because they have succeeded in curing their addiction. And if they can find a low-cost solution to their addiction, they are very fortunate because other people may use other methods that are not as low-cost.

The key ingredient is time.

You need time to recover from any addiction, that's how the brain works.

Then you also need to change something, like the way you react to specific things you experience, and the things you do when you experience them.

The brain slowly rewires itself over time.
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