Maybe we should contact ZT's parents. Do they live in Guangzhou?
I think that's a terrible idea. If further investigation by competent authorities implicates Zhou then his parents will find out soon enough. Harassing his parents is way out of line and should be rejected as an option if only because Maria made similar threats and nobody should see stooping to her level as acceptable. When a 17 year old kid knocks a baseball through my window and tries to blame someone else I would go talk to the 17-year kid's parents. I don't see why they would not be contacted for this. |
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This is why I don't believe Zhou.
Zhou claimed:
That his business associate stole his password when he signed up on a website.
That his business associate had access to the source code prior to anyone else.
That his business associate knew who was Chris Heaslip!
That his business associate quickly decides to return funds when confronted!
Now replace the business associate with Zhou.. And it makes a lot of sense.
He had access to the email, which he havent used in a while.
Knew the password for lastpass and the source code.
Knew all the people in bitcoinica.
And of course had access to the stolen funds.
This is the evidence just from Zhou, not aurumxchange.
That email was protected with my weakest password that I reused everywhere and even shared with some other people. I didn't have to protect that email at all because it's meant to be semi-sockpuppet anyway. He had access to source code after genjix released it. Chris Heaslip's Mt. Gox account was stored alongside Wendon's in the LastPass. Obviously he didn't know which one had more money so he logged in to both. I know a lot of his personal information (especially his and his wife's bank accounts and address), and I threatened to report to police if he didn't agree to refund. I don't know where you got all the misleading information from. It isn't that I do not believe you ZT, but these are bold claims. I hope you will be able to back all of this up if you have to. I trust that you wouldn't state this about having her information if you really didn't. In my mind there is still a small possibility you are involved, of course no one here as a regular member has all the information, but I suggest if you are telling stories to talk to your parents about what you have done. They may be held responsible somehow if you are a minor - not really sure how all that works. Regardless, you will bring them trouble. No reason to shame your family over this. It will be very newsworthy I would imagine. Maybe we should contact ZT's parents. Do they live in Guangzhou? |
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I know a lot of his personal information (especially his and his wife's bank accounts and address), and I threatened to report to police if he didn't agree to refund.
Actually, you have to release the information to the authorities or you are an accomplice. These were not your funds he stole. |
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So when is the person that stole the funds going to have criminal charges brought against them?
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Where do the probabilities come from? |
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IAPtno17
What is this? Godaddy coupon code? |
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Why am I the only person asking for a voice recording of the conversation between zhoutong and Chen Jianhai?
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Just goes to prove you never mess with a relic collector.
I need this very important question(s) answered. If I found a personalized affiliate code used for some well known company (not a Bitcoin entity) first used BBC (before Bitcoin), and that same code is used today directly linking to Bitcoin-type enterprises, namely key player(s) in this fiasco, would that be relevant? And what are the chances of any personalize affiliate code being abandoned, then picked up or transferred to some other (which I don't think is possible, but this is an important question in case I'm wrong).
If my research, which includes the above, is correct, then I'm taken aback by what I've discovered. Please accept my apologies for the suspense, but I do need the above questions answered before I proceed further.
~Bruno~
Bruno, First, I want to thank you for your tireless investigation on this matter. As per your question, I think that would be incredibly relevant. Please do post more! Thanks! Roberto Agreed. |
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Dividend table has been updated. The values look correct, even the insanely high +300% for the first listed security.
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I will need to look at the code again that collects the dividends. The new API limits to 10 requests per minute. With over 100 actively traded assets I need to add something to slow the requests down. I should be done with it after I wake up tomorrow.
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I think it is great all the fun things are illegal. If they were not illegal then they would not be fun anymore. I mean think about going to your local supermarket and seeing LSD on sale next to the gum.
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On a related note, I'm going to be separating charts and the API (for chart information, but not for trades) into a separate application, moving it to a another server, I'm thinking of OpenSourcing this as well.
Opinions on the opensourcing part?
I think you should add dividend payments to its own twitter feed like the current trade history reporting. Right now the only way to get the latest trade is to call the api for that security and it pulls all the dividend that security has paid. |
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It's plenty of time. The hacker obviously new the jig was up so the conversation did not need to last long at all.
Audio record of said conversation or it did not happen. |
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Dude, how do you know Zhou Tong over there isn't like Brad Smith here? OMG Zhou Tong stroking his beard  |
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Voice recording of of the suspect admitting guilt or this is bs.
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I hope everyone can comment with more reasoning and less assumptions. I'm trying my best to calm down and attempt to get more information about the hacker, because he also used my email for a credit card fraud case. It's possible to discover something at that direction.
I have also listed a few people who know this secret email of mine. And I'm going to question them one by one tonight.
I'm definitely on the side of Bitcoinica customers and I believe that if the real hacker really had ties with me personally like what MagicalTux said, I may be able to recover majority of the amount back if the hacker can be warned. This issue is very serious and if I'm the hacker, I would definitely return the full amount back to reduce the criminal punishment.
The hacker seems to be a Chinese because he used Chinese punctuations in his English messages in the Aurumxchange ticket.
I will provide any information needed to the police once Bitcoinica files a police report.
The hacker has now been warned and has returned all the stolen funds in 5...4...3... (I have no idea how I got two pages behind in such a short period of time, so if the above has for real happened already, forgive me)He probably doesn't know that. I have received another email just now and it seems that the hacker isn't aware of this thread at all: https://www.aurumxchange.com/help/ticket.php?track=Y72-1AN-3Y4H&Refresh=32888just easy simple or the biggest fake ever!!  So this superhacker is able to break into his computer yet he is this dumb now? the hacker is smart enough to steal all this money but not smart enough to not even bother framing people as it leaves more evidence? Come on.... or maybe steal a lot of bitcoins and make it seem like you are being framed. It is like Basic Instinct, write a book of a crime before it occurs then it becomes the person's alibi. |
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Damn. I have trust in ZT for reason still. Innocent until proven guilty, IMO. There is a chance there could be someone close to him fucking him over. It would have to be someone real close, perhaps the person you were giving this money to? He would know this would look suspicious because he timed it as such.
If there is a way for GMail to get involved to hash out the IP situation that would be ideal.
ZT- if you did this buddy, best thing to do is to seriously pay everyone back and accept whatever leaner penalties come your way. Way too much ahead in your life to be messing around with $200,000. In your best years ahead that would be a monthly take home easy. I am still giving you the benefit of the doubt, but if you really did man, well seriously, it is time to give up and return it all now. You can still salvage your life.
There's no reason that I'd forgo my integrity and all the reputation for just $200,000 at such a young age. I was working very hard for my new project (and a new homepage design will be deployed today) and it's simply outside my attention to commit such a thing. I'll commit any reasonable effort to get justice back. I made over $200,000 selling Everquest stuff when I was in high school. Barely worth my time, really. I mean, when I'm 17, $200,000 is just like some peanuts The kid paid off his college tuition and other shit already through bitcoinica, IIRC. Why the fuck would you ever get involved in this shit? Yeah, people die for less than $200,000 - but for a kid, literally a kid, that has already achieved what he has to do this is truly over the top insane. I hope it really wasn't him. Or if it is "him," I hope he isn't whom we all think he really is. What he didn't get a scholarship? You are thinking logically, ZT had a tendency to be very arrogant in his posts. I remember one between an exchange where he stated that his code for Bitcoinica was so good and better than their exchange's code. Some people do illogical things because they don't think they will be caught and they believe they are smarter than other people. |
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http://www.shtfplan.com/precious-metals/liquidate-iras-and-401ks-or-suffer-grievous-losses_12082010"This means that at some point in the future, when government comes under pressure from debt buyers to raise interest rates in order to offset the risk of a depreciating dollar and potential for default, the interest payments on our debt will rise significantly. Some estimates suggest that 60% of our outgoing payments will eventually be interest – a number so large that it will literally destroy the US economic system as we know it. At some point, our international line of credit (provided by China, Russia, Japan, et. al.) will be cut off. " In a last ditch effort to prevent complete financial, economic, political and social collapse, the government, like those in Argentina and Hungary, will move to seize private assets of Americans. Those assets are primarily held in IRA and 401k retirement accounts and they will become the targets of government intervention." What? That is why the USA has such a large military. If the creditors get too mouthy then the USA could just start an international incident or uprising in that nation. |
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Damn. I have trust in ZT for reason still. Innocent until proven guilty, IMO. There is a chance there could be someone close to him fucking him over. It would have to be someone real close, perhaps the person you were giving this money to? He would know this would look suspicious because he timed it as such.
If there is a way for GMail to get involved to hash out the IP situation that would be ideal.
ZT- if you did this buddy, best thing to do is to seriously pay everyone back and accept whatever leaner penalties come your way. Way too much ahead in your life to be messing around with $200,000. In your best years ahead that would be a monthly take home easy. I am still giving you the benefit of the doubt, but if you really did man, well seriously, it is time to give up and return it all now. You can still salvage your life.
There's no reason that I'd forgo my integrity and all the reputation for just $200,000 at such a young age. I was working very hard for my new project (and a new homepage design will be deployed today) and it's simply outside my attention to commit such a thing. I'll commit any reasonable effort to get justice back. When I was young these guys from my high school thought they could rob a McDonald's safe by using a blowtorch and cut a hole through it. They did it because they thought they would not get caught. Unfortunately, the McDonald's caught on fire from the grease and my uncle was killed in the fire (he was a firefighter). |
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Stunned that anybody can suspend dis-belief in this matter to even type the words that Zhou might be innocent in this. Scammer Boy just got caught red-handed, time for some biblical justice to get served up.
Agree, he better stay in China if he does not want to be extradited. |
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