.....just send him all the details, so he dosen't have another excuse to say that all did not comply.
^ The statement above is in contradiction to one of (pirateat40's) Trendon's ORIGINAL RULES WHEN MANY OF OUR ACCOUNTS WERE SETUP. Loosely quoted (as PIRATE has since deleted all traces of it....)...if you borrow or invest other user's money into my program, I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR ACCOUNT...I ONLY DEAL WITH DIRECT ACCOUNT HOLDERS !
Withholding such information at this point CLEARLY suits the rules and regulations Trendon initially set our accounts up with and the forum administration could very well reach back into page revisions and pull THAT statement out of this were to ever become a legal issue, or his so-called 'grounds' for REFUSING TO RE-PAY LENDERS. bitlane you are magic, so this is potentially a "fully legal" ponsi, where lender him/herself would break a contract by supplying information about their account/s, and their account would be invalid. Or am I the only other one that finds this point interesting? Very good! bitlate do you have original post/link? Oh my, canīt hold my breath now, as nothing is donated  , of course he knew beforehand that he better wonīt have known in a situation like this, that there are (should i name them? - PPT īs ) for which lenders(the small fish) he would potentially be responsible and therefore "REFUSING TO RE-PAY LENDERS" is ment for "PPTīs". and "DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR ACCOUNT[/b]...I ONLY DEAL WITH DIRECT ACCOUNT HOLDERS !" is ment for the investors soon to be treated as "direct account holders" as soon as data is given to him. Ignore Re: [BitcoinMax.com] Closed Today at 09:11:37 PM #1984 Quote from: BCbitcoin on Today at 07:12:44 PM It's concerning that paybtc isn't explicitly stating that any payment will go first to repay principal (total deposits - total withdrawals) first before any "interest" is paid. In this case, the "interest" was just the btc of the new depositors. In the event that paybtc did a straight percentage based payout across all his accounts just based on the current balance he would be running his own ponzi scheme. This too could be the motivation in not handing over the details. The only reason to hide the details of a sub account would be if that sub account had withdrawn more than it had deposited and therefore revealed the location where other peoples btc went. actually, i have already stated that. sorry this thread is so disorganised. don't really have much time to write an essay in the OP. i originally wrote the order of the payouts: - those that requested withdrawals before BST closed. - principal balance up until bst closed, in order of user id (account age) - interest accrued after bst closed, in order of user id (account age) all that pretty much assumed full payout. if there's a partial payout, and funds are distributed via a %, then it doesn't matter if interest+principal is paid in one tx or two, it'll still add up to the same amount. [/quote] This is nor the attitude neither the mathematics of a CEO of an honest but bankrupt enterprise----if bitcoinmax is ment to survive, the OP is before tomorrow to be changed to at least in: proper english from zykloogish, but without changing the mathematics , technichalies and features : As bitcoinmax always stated, your coins are lost !, as Trendon Shavers shaves us all. In case the defaulted entity BCST is assuming its liabilities to bitcoinmax or pays out any amount to bitcoinmax, all principal investments are payed back evenly up to the amount deposited. The gained interest of all accounts is put in escrow until further notice. If bitcoinmax liabilities to you are not fully covered by this proceedure and in case BCST pays zilch, i payb.tc, will pact with bitlane to recover what is being able to recover from Trendon Shavers. The interest which i accrued during operation of bitcoinmax up to date is given back to recover your principal investments. As far as it stands, pirate has not option neither right to get your data or information through my hands. Seeing forward to provide further investment possibilities to you in the future. Please comment Yours sincerely.......... Thanks Zyk |
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Am really sorry but as nobody donated , wonīt keep my mouth shut, may be
1. if anything changes in bitcoinmax OP, that it is freed from pirates shenanigans
or
2. all bitcoinmax investors have jumped ship, cause payb.tc īs feet are to small for his shoes to stand in...,
as he apparently doesnīt see any future of bitcoinmax , where he would like to invest his panic - hoarded coins in.
Cheers Zyk
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zykloogish is not understandable so fast, please read again, this is not CNBC...
and tell me then, which point of past performance i missed.
Cheers Zyk
I am refraining from telling you anything, in fear that you might continue to respond.  LOL if you want me to shut up donate to : 16jQSmD8jW8PFUMk4n1LSbguL91ZsbJ4eY then iīll keep quiet ............... until asked or the question marks are threatening to overwhelm the forum Thanks Zyk |
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zykloogish is not understandable so fast, please read again, this is not CNBC...
and tell me then, which point of past performance i missed.
Cheers Zyk
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You may just read post #1885 and #1907 or may be all the others again and if you still refuse to understand what am asking for
and think, you can leave the OP with the in depth information it contains right now for your investors ( Erebus already leaveing the sinking ship or better jumping to one where
the captain still talks to lenders),
iīll feel free to post a summary in perfect translation.....
Thanks
Zyk
PLEASE....NO MORE POSTS WITH MORE THAN 10 WORDS. Please fill in the _____________________ I, Zyk, am _________________ (for or against) Pirate and seeing him receive my account details. I,Zyk, am for pirate ..., if ,as it stands now, payb.tc is running a ponzi scheme or better chainletter if you want. ( proof : FIFO, his post number #1834 ) I,Zyk, am against pirate... , if the OP of bitcoinmax is changed to : my post #1907 sorry canīt get under 25 words, that you understand what ejm sayn Cheers Zyk unluckily am sure thatīll need a few romans more to convince looters giving back their loot......and not me but a judge to tell them |
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Zykloogish : to settle his dept with people, who canīt be accused to run a ponzi scheme of their own....Dude
Abraco
Zyk
I cracked the code! By running a script to pass zyk's messages automatically through http://www.babelfish.com/ from English to Danish, then to Ukrainian, then to Japanese, then finally back to English, I get: "Some hear and see him whom he heareth nor seeth not But fields have eyes and woods have ears, ye wot And also on my maids he is ever tooting. Can ye judge a man, (quoth I), by his looking? What, a cat may look on a king, ye know! My cat's leering look, (quoth she), at first show, Showeth me that my cat goeth a caterwauling; And specially by his manner of drawing To Madge, my fair maid." which is straight out of The Proverbs And Epigrams Of John Heywood, 1562In other words: "Yain't gettin' yer coins back, ya Son of a Biscuit Eater!" LOL....but still thats not what i said........ am saying that the future depends on past and current actions.....which is fairly trivial.....even when expressed in english Cheers Zyk |
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You may just read post #1885 and #1907 or may be all the others again and if you still refuse to understand what am asking for
and think, you can leave the OP with the in depth information it contains right now for your investors ( Erebus already leaveing the sinking ship or better jumping to one where
the captain still talks to lenders),
iīll feel free to post a summary in perfect translation.....
Thanks
Zyk
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i'd really like to help zyk with his apparent problem, however i have no idea what he's actually asking.
i've already stated how the accounts would be split up, but as rolotonybrowntown says, it's pointless spending day after day discussing it when we don't even know if we'll see any coins anyway.
let's discuss it more *after* pirate pays (if ever).
Need another translation? Happy to provide Cheers Zyk |
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I have started a thread where lenders that wish can give their information to pirate.
What are you getting yourself into? What do you mean? I mean: why would pirateat40 accept any information regarding bitcoinmax users coming from someone who isn't payb.tc? Zykloogish : to settle his dept with people, who canīt be accused to run a ponzi scheme of their own....Dude Abraco Zyk |
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i'd really like to help zyk with his apparent problem, however i have no idea what he's actually asking.
i've already stated how the accounts would be split up, but as rolotonybrowntown says, it's pointless spending day after day discussing it when we don't even know if we'll see any coins anyway.
let's discuss it more *after* pirate pays (if ever).
If or if we not see any coins, depends on your stance on bitcoinmaxīs payout - rules for bancrupcy proceedings. Is it zykloogish, when i demand an escrow, where i can transfer my ill - gotten interest loot to pay back the principal of others?? If you canīt or wonīt be clear on the way bitcoinmax operates, i will count the interest loot myself and will give it completly to the one, i know of being lower in the chain. That doesnīt depend on pirate in no way ....as he doesnīt declare default and pays out everybody........ Bitcoinmax should be saved as an honest entity not victimized by the greed of scammers! Got it? Thanks Zyk |
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hi Payb.tc...
if you prefer sleeping now......rather to put yourself behind your lenders and bitlane or better at the same level...... in editing the OP for the better.....tomorrow again, it will be
too late , as the first of us will have sent their accounts information directly to pirate........
Me of course not !
Cheers Zyk
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As i see it, but unluckily canīt verify cause bitcoinmax is down.....
bitcoinmax.com is not down Ypiehhyeah the first positive notice today on it. sorry, am even too stupid to handle the easiest, most convenient and cutest bank interface of the world Am sure itīll have a great future  Cheers Zyk |
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In many places it is illegal to do what you are doing with out a warrant and many other places highly illegal to make private messages public.
There are millions of laws. I'm probably breaking dozens right now somehow. I'm not going to let these laws stop me from doing what's best. As I mentioned previously, I'm not sure what the best course of action is with the Pirate case -- I'll decide this later after some public discussion. At least every user has to be made aware ( or better asked before ), when you are reading his posts, independent of the justification!!! If your access is declined, then you should search for public discussion to have a just case which backs the intrusion. We really need to be attentive now not to loose common sense in our bitcoin community and keep rules equal to all of us ! Thanks for consideration Zyk |
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As i see it, but unluckily canīt verify cause bitcoinmax is down.....
one of my accounts has a negative balance as you need to substract the accrued interest from the actual balance !!
Please Payb.tc, send me an adress where i can get rid of the loot and where your interest escrow is made !
If still Op is not changed and your mind not able to understand zykloogish, please open bitcoinmax again. that i see
how many coins i need to send to my friend Andie for leveling his principal investment directly.
Thanks Zyk
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It's now time to let your PPT OP 'down from his cross' and allow him/her/it to DEFEND the integrity of this community. Thats how it should be defended by you and payb.tc : As bitcoinmax always stated, your coins are lost !, as Trendon Shavers shaves us all. In case the defaulted entity BCST is assuming its liabilities to bitcoinmax or pays out any amount to bitcoinmax, all principal investments are payed back evenly up to the amount deposited. The gained interest of all accounts is put in escrow until further notice. If bitcoinmax liabilities to you are not fully covered by this proceedure and in case BCST pays zilch, i payb.tc, will pact with bitlane to recover what is being able to recover from Trendon Shavers. The interest which i accrued during operation of bitcoinmax up to date is given back to recover your principal investments. As far as it stands, pirate has not option neither right to get your data or information through my hands. Seeing forward to provide further investment possibilities to you in the future. Please comment Yours sincerely.......... |
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This is obfuscation of bitcoinmax!
You can clearly seperate the accrued interest from deposits and withdrawls made.
Thats why it is to love that interface!
Cheers
Zyk
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Funny, those that came last think they can make the rules. That's not the way things go. All the money has to go to payb.tc ! Anything else is funk. The risk was always the same. It doesn't matter how much we took out.
Please proceed to the queue , where to leave your fingerprints. Cheers Zyk P.S. no problem....the ones who recieved more interest than paid in....just pay the negative balance back thats why our operator is called pay BTC ! |
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Where the fuck is payb.tc in all of this?!?! havent heard from him yet...
Probably collapsed. lol If you still are able to put one feet before the other just complete OP now. If not here is the copy and paste: As bitcoinmax always stated, your coins are lost !, as Trendon Shavers shaves us all. In case the defaulted entity BCST is assuming its liabilities to bitcoinmax or pays out any amount to bitcoinmax, all principal investments are payed back evenly up to the amount deposited. The gained interest of all accounts is put in escrow until further notice. If bitcoinmax liabilities to you are not fully covered by this proceedure and in case BCST pays zilch, i payb.tc, will pact with bitlane to recover what is being able to recover from Trendon Shavers. The interest which i accrued during operation of bitcoinmax up to date is given back to recover your principal investments. As far as it stands, pirate has not option neither right to get your data or information through my hands. Seeing forward to provide further investment possibilities to you in the future. Please comment Yours sincerely.......... Thanks Zyk |
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I would like to provide some insight into what was going on as I mapped out the mechanics of what I thought was going on to Pirate last week. It had taken me a while to work out the money flows, and he confirmed that I had it pretty much straight. For the doubters, they would say he was simply lying and stringing me along, but that could be said of most people on the forum.
As for disclosing it, I do not consider it my place to do that. It was something confidential I discussed with someone, and it stays that way until Pirate wishes to make it public. There is nothing stopping me from duplicating it, and it's not illegal at all, but it would take a lot of time and effort. I am sure Pirate is happy to be winding it up and being able to get away from it for a while.
Also, not all PPTs are gone, I still have one, just with zero volume until I work out a reincarnation for it.
Anyway, as I wasted most of yesterday, I didn't re-do the OP - I'll do some work on that now.
Hi Patrick, As pirate filed for bancrupcy of BCST....and so has gotten away from it.......is it still necessary to keep his buiseness model secret? You may safe the community from a lot of infighting, if releasing the information. Thank you Zyk |
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just for the record:
i am also fine with my details being forwarded.
Yes, you and all of the other 50 BTC-worth accounts, play right into Trendon's plan and settle personally for 50%. The guys with 5000 BTC accounts want NOTHING to do with him, so you will be over ruled, I am certain. Withholding individual user info is the ONLY way everyone has a chance. Fuck Trendon and his plans of 'divide and conquer'. Good job, BitcoinMax. Customer protection and integrity will atleast see you have a future....not so much for Trendon Shavers. Nobody needs to settle personally with the pirate if you wonīt.......and put your illgotten interest in escrow as well....... provided the OP is ASAP completed by how bankrupcy proceedings will be carried out at bitcoinmax !!! Cheers Zyk |
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