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661  Economy / Services / Re: ☛SHILLS FOR HIRE!☚ on: June 23, 2013, 04:37:40 PM
This thread is full of win.

I award 3 internets.  If only we had a tipping system in place.
662  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL BitForce SC Firmware source code on: June 23, 2013, 04:21:49 PM
I would be very interested to see a water block that covers chips, 1850 and mosfets.  I think it would change the nature of performance quite a bit and it's been something I've been itching to try, but haven't had any time to even start on some sort of project like that.

I have cooled the mosfets and 1850 with a block of ice and it does increase stability, but it was pretty ghetto, so doing a proper coverage WB would probably yield even better results.

If someone comes up with a full coverage WB for a short board and wants to send it to me, I can try it out on a 4 and 8 chip shortboard, although I'd need to swap out the mosfets on that board.  All the 8 chip short boards we have are a couple revs behind... hmm, I wonder if I can get a couple current rev short boards in with more chips. 

Is anyone working on a WB?
663  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: 65 nm Chips - [BFL ACCEPTED 100% ESCROW by John K.] - Group Buy #1 - Kernel32 on: June 22, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
Quote from: RandyFolds on June 22, 2013, 06:48:12 PM
Quote from: ziptie on June 22, 2013, 06:23:29 PM
Quote from: RandyFolds on June 13, 2013, 07:33:01 AM
The only bumping being done by BFL consists of white powder going into their noses, conveniently purchased from silkroad with all of your BTC. It's only a matter of time until josh goes out Scarface style.

Lol Cheesy This company seriously has gone off the deep end.  One thing is for certain, their goal is to remain profitable as long as possible, do you think that can be achieved by flooding the market with ASICs?  Nope.

It is likely that their highest achievable profit margin is splitting right now, unless some wild new tech is being developed by their assembly ninja in a super secret underground development facility. The source of all their shipping delays is likely their ceaseless work on the development of the Schwarzgerät, which will be installed in the mysterious jet black 1.5 petahash miner housed in an erotic Imipolex G case with serial number 00000.

God damn it, Randy.  Who leaked our design documents to you?  FFS.  BTW, it's not jet black, it's matte black, for stealth.
664  Other / Meta / Re: Can bitcointalk.org get 2 factor authentication? on: June 22, 2013, 06:01:12 AM
Yubikey & GA.  No need for silly international texts and such.
665  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] BFLS.RIG - BFL Hardware mining & Sales on: June 22, 2013, 05:27:56 AM
I'm working on a deal for more power and space... stay tuned (like ya'll wouldn't), so it may not be a problem going forward.
666  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 21, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
Quote from: ThatDGuy on June 21, 2013, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: Vivisector999 on June 21, 2013, 09:44:33 PM
The forum admins here don't seem to care about the auction system here having any sort of validity.  But why is everyone missing the fact that not only was the Werner account shilling bids, he was also trolling others with it.  Maybe scamming and trolling are acceptable here???

The trolling aspect was covered pretty well in this thread.

Chronologically, a lot took place in that one before this scam accusation thread started.  This scam accusation thread only began a little after this point in the original thread:

Quote from: philips on June 19, 2013, 10:06:38 PM
Now, aside this BFL story, I never believed in sock-puppets accusations. (call me naive, yes)
I thought...what would be the real purpose of such account?
I mean, what the heck can I do with a new account and I can't do with the old one?

So now that I found that I was wrong...really Garr255, what is the purpose of this Werner account of yours?
I am just curious.




Looks like Garr has gone back and deleted at least one of the more egregious posts in that thread, if not more.  Hmm...
667  Economy / Goods / Re: Slim Jim Car Lockout Set for BTC - NOW INCLUDES MORE PHOTO! on: June 21, 2013, 05:57:28 AM
Broken link for prices... what are you charging now a days?
668  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 86 on: June 21, 2013, 05:56:42 AM
7 @ 2.75
669  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 20, 2013, 10:43:15 PM
Quote from: Nightowlace on June 20, 2013, 10:35:08 PM

Remember when you point your finger at someone their are three looking back at you.

I don't know what kind of weird crooked fingers you have, but when I point at someone, I point at someone, not 4 different things.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3uxgwh/
670  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 05:17:46 PM
I'm curious as to what he'll say as well.  Unless Theymos decides to cover it up, and I don't believe Theymos is that type of person, anything Garr255 says other than admitting it, coming clean and trying to move past it is just going to compound the problem dramatically.
671  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 05:03:03 PM
Good point, and that's fine.  Garr255 is welcome to say what he wants about Werner without any interference from me, beyond what I post here.  As a point of fact, I never said he couldn't.  I simply wanted him to apologize for lying and using a sock puppet, which he did in the most disingenuous way possible and was ultimately meaningless anyway.  However, unlike Garr, I'm actually honest and will not fire him as a customer, since he did what I requested in letter if not spirit.
672  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 20, 2013, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: ThatDGuy on June 20, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
Quote from: SLok on June 20, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: Werner on June 19, 2013, 07:57:32 AM
I am laughing hysterically... This obscene adult is being shown up by a seventeen year old who runs his business flawlessly!!!
Was jetzt Werner, du bist so still, schön ein Wiedergutmachungsschnitzel für 2 bestellt?

I don't understand German Sad where's Werner when you need him?

Probably in the washing machine.
673  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL BitForce SC Firmware source code on: June 20, 2013, 03:24:10 PM
If you blow your chips due to overclocking to ridiculous amounts or failure to cool your chips, there is no warranty.
674  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 03:15:16 PM
I have to admit, I'm pretty confused as to why there's so much resistance to verifying if a deleted post contains a certain bit of content.  No one is asking for the post to be restored or the content to be posted.  There's no privacy violations being requested or anything other than for verification to be performed.

I'm pretty boggled, honestly.  I know what I saw, I know what's in my browser window, I've taken a screen shot of it, there is no doubt in my mind that Werner posted that text.  I had no idea Werner was Garrs sock until that point, nor did I have any clue there was so much more to the Werner account than it just being Garr trolling me when I posted the screenshot.  Up until that time of Garrs mistake, I had taken zero notice of Werner... I mean, I get trolled much better numerous times a day and I hadn't given it a second thought.

I regret, now, not posting the quote faster and plopping up the screenshot, however when it happened I was confused by the response and it took me about 30 seconds to figure out what happened as I re-read it several times trying to figure out why Werner was making that post until it hit me that Garr screwed up.  By the time I quoted it, screen shotted it and got it uploaded, Garr had already deleted Werner version.  It would have been much better if I had posted that quote and then Garr followed it with the same text.  But my slow reaction time should not be the deciding factor here... if the post contents of the post in question  can be verified, I can not see any reason what so ever to not verify it.  It doesn't have to be posted, revealed or anything else, other than "Yep, it's the same" or "Nope, Inaba is full of shit."

Is Garr255 somehow financially or otherwise tied to Maged or Theymos?  Is there a reason behind these stall tactics?  I'm not making any accusations in this space, I am just curious if that may be a source of resistance to a seemingly reasonable request.
675  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 05:04:09 AM
Bid shilling isn't a scam?  He's basically scammed a number of users out of BTC by bidding up prices on stuff.

You could even argue that he's scammed his Cognitive users by posting positive remarks about how awesome it and he is, since people assume it's a legitimate disinterested third party, not the same guy selling what he's selling.  That's almost by definition a scam.
676  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 04:55:01 AM
Not ethical?  Why is it not ethical?  Check it and if I'm lying, call me out on it.  If I'm not... well, you have your answer.  There's no need to reveal what's in the post if it's NOT what I said, there's no ethics problem in verifying but not disclosing.
677  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 04:53:31 AM
Yes, because that quote link was manually entered.  Try to "quote" via the quote button a post that has been deleted - SMF won't pull it up.  I originally had generic quote tags around it and had to go back and add who it was from, since it wouldn't make any sense otherwise within the context, AFTER Garr reposted the same text.  

Here's the original quote HTML:

Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;quote=2517632;topic=236794.80;num_replies=92;sesc=*removed*

And the original post link:

Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236794.msg2517632#msg2517632

Now go test it for yourself, post a message, pull it up in a  browser, delete it and then try to quote it.  You'll get nothing and you'll have to do it manually.  As in the other thread, I'll even let Maged remote into my machine and examine the still open browser window.
678  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 20, 2013, 04:47:27 AM
Please, present your evidence then Maged.  You are full of shit, plain and simple.  There's proof positive via screen shot, tons of circumstantial evidence and if SMF is worth a shit, there should be easily verifiable tracking information via soft delete and IP logs to finish it all off.  What "evidence" do you have that I faked any of it? 

But lets examine the whole premise... why would I even BOTHER to fake that, in that particular manner?  That doesn't even make sense... if I'm going to fake something, it would be something far more damning than THAT post.  In fact, I'll even let you, Maged, remote into my machine and examine the browser window to verify it for yourself.
679  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Garr255/Werner - Auction shilling on: June 20, 2013, 04:38:20 AM
Quote from: Maged on June 20, 2013, 04:11:24 AM
Holy shit. There's actually enough information here to open an investigation on Inaba. The quote tags were edited, and the screenshot appears fake. I think QuestionAuthority might be right:

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on June 19, 2013, 08:10:17 AM
Quote from: Inaba on June 19, 2013, 08:06:03 AM
Quote from: Werner on June 19, 2013, 07:57:32 AM
Quote from: Inaba on Today at 02:58:55
Quote
I did not request a refund. If you refund me, I expect the full amount of BTC I paid to be refunded. If you are able to do this I will gladly take my business elsewhere, because believe it or not you have competition now

You'll get the full amount you paid in USD, since that's how our products are priced. 

As a point of fact, you did request a refund, let me quote you:

Quote
but your business operations and ethic are both unacceptable.

You find them unacceptable, I understand.  We will cut ties and move on and you no longer have to deal with the unacceptable (to you) business nature.  We do not want to force you into a position where you are must deal with an unacceptable situation, so we are removing that roadblock from your happiness.  I'm done here, your refund will be processed by COB tomorrow.

I think you're misunderstanding my logic. Take Apple Computer for example. A company that produces an admittedly good product, but not in the most ethical way. I am open about how they shouldn't employ FoxConn for their assembly etc, but they do it anyway, and I live with it.

My intentions are not to anger anyone, or disrupt my business relationship with BFL. I just want to promote honesty, and discourage the opposite.

Give me truth and I'll give you peace. Most people think that's simple enough.

Hahaha... post with the wrong sock puppet account there, sport?  Epic!

*EDIT* - For those of you who may have missed it, Garr just accidentally posted with his Werner account and then deleted the post and reposted with Garr when he realized he screwed up.



I was refreshing this thread every 30 seconds to not miss any of this juicy garbage and I didn't see that. I think you're smoking something.


Yes, by all means, open an investigation.  Lets see the IP logs of the posts and the post history.  SMF does have soft delete, right?  I use it on vBulletin all the time, any posts that are deleted are removed from public view, but I can view and recover them when I need to.

I still have the thread open in my browser as well, looking at it right now as a matter of fact.  In fact, lets post Garr's Skype log to me:

Quote
[6/19/2013 3:15:00 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Hi josh.zerlan, I'd like to add you as a contact. Garrett Ian MacDonald
[6/19/2013 3:25:13 AM] Josh Zerlan: What can I help you with?
[6/19/2013 3:25:17 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Thanks for adding me
[6/19/2013 3:25:21 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: free for a call?
[6/19/2013 3:25:30 AM] Josh Zerlan: No, it's too late at night for that.
[6/19/2013 3:25:54 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: I was wondering what your policy is on canceling orders, sir.
[6/19/2013 3:26:04 AM] Josh Zerlan: With regards to what?
[6/19/2013 3:28:17 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Dude this is Garr. I have to shamefully apologize for calling your company out, and making you think I don't want to deal with you, because most of my orders are not for me and have been sold to other people already.
[6/19/2013 3:29:07 AM] Josh Zerlan: You know, that might have carried some weight before you used a sock puppet account to troll me, then used your own account to lie about it and AGAIN essentially call me a liar.
[6/19/2013 3:29:21 AM] Josh Zerlan: You and I both know Werner is your sock puppet account
[6/19/2013 3:29:28 AM] Josh Zerlan: Given the speed you did your editing, I suspect you posted from the same IP
[6/19/2013 3:29:52 AM] Josh Zerlan: So getting a mod to check the IPs on those two posts will probably yield up the proof required to call you out on that
[6/19/2013 3:30:04 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: I'm just saying, it will hurt other customers more than me if you terminate our relationship. The terms I've agreed to with them exempt me from you canceling my order without a formal request.
[6/19/2013 3:30:34 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: It will hurt me a lot as well, still Tongue
[6/19/2013 3:30:36 AM] Josh Zerlan: Right... so you think it's ok to abuse me and BFL at your liesure and I should just bend over and take it?  It doesn't work like that here.
[6/19/2013 3:31:10 AM] Josh Zerlan: You did make a formal request.  You explicitly stated that our business ethics etc... were unacceptable.
[6/19/2013 3:31:15 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Well in my defense, can you argue against my accusations? This is not the outcome I intended.
[6/19/2013 3:32:00 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Are you a believer in implied word, or actual word. Because I am actually asking you to not cancel my orders, please.
[6/19/2013 3:33:46 AM] Josh Zerlan: Yes, I can easily arguing against your accusations. I already did.  There are orders ahead of you in the queue that were in before Bitpay. Most notably some FPGA orders that were never delivered at the customer request and converted into ASIC orders.  There's not a lot of them, but there's some of them.
[6/19/2013 3:34:16 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Okay, that does make sense
[6/19/2013 3:34:46 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: now that you tell me straight up and not through (what I suspect to be) a puppet.
[6/19/2013 3:34:58 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: ^sorry if I'm wrong about that
[6/19/2013 3:35:06 AM] Josh Zerlan: Unlike you, Garrett, I have but one account (or two if you cound BFL_Josh).
[6/19/2013 3:35:15 AM] Josh Zerlan: I'm not duplicious or dishonest like you appear to be at this point.
[6/19/2013 3:35:17 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: a smart person would use a VPN with a sock puppet account.
[6/19/2013 3:36:04 AM] Josh Zerlan: Yes, you could have been using a VPN with your puppet, but given the speed you switched it up, unless your VPN was on another computer, I doubt you had time to switch off your VPN and back on.
[6/19/2013 3:36:05 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Honestly I just want you to be forthcoming with your business operations
[6/19/2013 3:36:18 AM] Josh Zerlan: Dude, your credibility is shot after the stunt with Werner.
[6/19/2013 3:36:28 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: I don't want to discuss that.
[6/19/2013 3:36:38 AM] Josh Zerlan: Are you honestly sitting there trying to lecture me on being forthcoming after that?
[6/19/2013 3:36:57 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: I'm not bothering arguing that.
[6/19/2013 3:37:21 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Really I wish we weren't here having this discussion
[6/19/2013 3:38:12 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: You have to admit, that being an outsider of BFL, and seeing people be sent units with the explicit agreement that they would post picutres, that it looks shady.
[6/19/2013 3:38:25 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: I just want to get the truth.
[6/19/2013 3:38:59 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: And with your explaination for the FPGA orders, I believe I have it. At least part of it.
[6/19/2013 3:39:07 AM] Josh Zerlan: There's been several singles sent out, there's only one picture that I know of, and that's Allten.  We are shipping out in order.  I know it's hard to believe, but the majority of our orders don't come from Bitcointalk members.
[6/19/2013 3:39:21 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: It's totally believable
[6/19/2013 3:39:38 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: just something that most don't take into account as often as we should
[6/19/2013 3:39:42 AM] Josh Zerlan: Bitcointalk forum members are a signifigant faction, yes, but they are by no means a majority.
[6/19/2013 3:40:05 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Yep that is analogous with cognitive shareholders
[6/19/2013 3:40:18 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: so I understand that.
[6/19/2013 3:40:29 AM] Josh Zerlan: So, if you want to clean the slate, fine.  You need to apologize publically for calling me and BFL liars, admit Werner is your sock puppet account and apologize for utilizing it to troll me.
[6/19/2013 3:40:44 AM] Josh Zerlan: Then we can just forget it happened and move on.
[6/19/2013 3:46:01 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Okay, writing a post now...
[6/19/2013 4:02:56 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Done. I genuinely appreciate your giving me the opportunity to keep my orders.
[6/19/2013 4:05:58 AM] Josh Zerlan: That is probably one of the most disingenuous apologies I have ever seen, I have to admit.
[6/19/2013 4:07:09 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: It wasn't intended to be anything more than you asked.
[6/19/2013 4:07:20 AM] Garrett Ian MacDonald: Again, sorry for making you and I both look like cunts.
[6/19/2013 4:07:22 AM] Josh Zerlan: Clearly
680  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Recieved 50GH BFL Single Today! on: June 20, 2013, 12:22:23 AM
Someone should probably inform the suckers that got bid up by the sock puppet that they got robbed.
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