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6601  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Germany Says No To Bitcoin Taxes! on: March 13, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
Some good news from Germany 🇩🇪:

According to the Ministry of Finance, Germany won’t tax Bitcoin users for using cryptocurrency as a means of payment.

This is a completely different path compared to the U.S.🇺🇸. If an American buys a cup of coffee ☕️ with Bitcoin, it’s technically considered a sale of property and hence is potentially subject to capital gains tax.

Yet, in Germany Bitcoin will be considered as the equivalent to the legal tender for tax purposes when used as a means of payment.

I wonder whether and when other EU countries will follow this..

https://www.coindesk.com/germany-considers-crypto-legal-equivalent-to-fiat-for-tax-purposes/

It makes more sense! Germany is trying to explore and encourage the actual usage of bitcoin as a medium for payment. That's what the basic usage of bitcoin. USA made it look like an investment which is certainly not the main idea behind bitcoin and they are self contradictory. While USA made bitcoin a property which is subject to capital gains tax, Arizona is planning to accept tax payment in bitcoins. So when a person pays tax using bitcoin in Arizona, it will be considered as a property transfer as per the existing USA legislation. No one know how to factor in and bridge that gap in legal structure. So Germany has taken the more sensible way for crypto.

It is also very encouraging news for the crypto community because Germany is the 4th largest economy of the world and an engineering production hub. So when a strong country has taken such decision, I am sure it will influence some more countries to take similar steps, especially is EU and serves as a reference case study for the rest of the world.
6602  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you in support of paying your taxes in Bitcoin? on: March 12, 2018, 11:07:24 PM
Personally I wouldn't pay my taxes in bitcoin. But it is a good news for the crypto community as a whole. Because if an US state start accepting bitcoin for any payments, it will make bitcoin legal tender in that state. Bitcoin will also receive free promotion which may make a lot of people intrigued about bitcoin which can significantly boost the adoption rate.
6603  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: International Bitcoin's Day on: March 12, 2018, 11:00:37 PM
Hi,

I was wondering is there a designated date when people around the world celebrate Bitcoin invention or creation of cryptocurrencies in general? I mean commonly accepted tradition, something like International Programmers' Day:

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Programmers are greeted with positive comments like “Happy Programmer’s Day” in some work environments on International Programmers' Day. The observance is also mentioned among programming communities in online forums and social media, including on Facebook or Twitter.

I think it would be fun to have such a day for the crypto community  Wink

No we don't have any such day to remember the greatest financial invention of this decade because we live everyday with bitcoin. May 22, is the only day that is celebrated as bitcoin pizza day. If you are willing to know the story behind it, try googling it.

But I have a great idea to celebrate a day dedicated to bitcoin. While most of such "days" are constant in nature, lets have dynamic days for bitcoin that will change every year. The idea is to pick a date in last year, when the bitcoin price reached the top position.

For example, bitcoin price reached its peak value on 17th December last year. So the bitcoin day will be celebrated on the same day in 2018 to remember the best performing day for bitcoin. For 2019, we will pick up the date from 2018. How is the idea?


6604  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Boycott Coinmarketcap - allowing ponzi to advertise on: March 12, 2018, 10:45:32 PM
We shouldn't recommend coinmarketcap.com to anyone. They are still advertising ponzis on their site. They should know better! No respect for us or newbies at all. Right now I find this garbage site in banner at top: https://profitablemorrows.com/

I believe, they don't directly have any control over the ads they serve because the use Google's ad service. So I can't blame coinmarketcap for that, but you can stop using google if you think they should not serve ponzi ads. Lol!!

But if we keep the ads aside, do you know any other website that can replace coinmarketcap? It is really informative and well maintained and I don't think we have any alternative available currently.
6605  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can individuals make arbitrage? on: March 12, 2018, 10:32:41 PM
There are arbitrage bots available in the market but you must take caution before buying one. Also you need to have a good amount of initial investment if you wish to start with bot trading. But manual arbitraging is very much possible. However, I won't suggest to use bitcoin for arbitraging because of the time it takes to get confirmation. Either you keep decent amount of bitcoins in both exchanges or you need to use currencies like XRP, ETH, Deeponion or any other coins with almost instant transaction facilities.

But if you are new to the trading, arbitraging is not a recommended method for you. It requires quick decision making power and you need to be confident about your actions.
6606  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN PRICE IN 2050 - ACCORDING TO VITALIK BUTERIN! on: March 12, 2018, 10:15:01 PM


1. What do people think of Vitalik’s interesting answer here, and his long-term prediction and reasoning for BTC and altcoins survival and growth in value?

2. Do you agree a BTC price of $100k by 2050 is a reasonable expectation based just on world GDP growth, and that a price of $1M by 2050 is quite possible with world GDP growth plus 10% BTC organic growth/adoption?

Absolutely it is possible. If bitcoin can reach upto 20k in 2017, it can easily reach 100k by 2050. We are yet to discover the vast application possibility of blockchain yet. It is just a p2p currency and an amazing investment as of now, but who knows what the future holds? I am sure majority of the countries will adopt bit by that time and people will be actively using Cryptocurrency by 2050. So 100k or even higher value is very much possible. At least I am optimistic about it.
6607  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: KYC requirement from ICOs will open up a whole news area of scam on: March 12, 2018, 10:00:23 AM
Yes, I agree that KYC information after you've performed work for them by participating in a bounty campaign or other promotional effort is outrageous.  Sounds like they're just looking for a reason to say you failed KYC and deny you the earned bounty.  I am concerned about the exchange of any unnecessary information whatsoever.  If an ICO is doing KYC I can understand that, especially given the current regulatory mess.  However, if they need to do that on bounty participants they should state that up front and do it in advance.

That's exactly what I have mentioned in the point number 3. I have seen ICO bounties are not upfront about their requirement of KYC documents. I am active in few bounties and till date I didn't face any issue about the KYC. I always join the telegram group of the ICO and ask the admin of the group about the KYC requirement of the bounty participants. I only join the bounty after I get confirmation from the admin about the KYC requirement. Till date I have seen a very few ICOs are asking KYC from their bounty participants. Majority of them are not asking for KYC from the bounty participants. So it is somewhat OK as of now.

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I've had my identity stolen twice in my life and it is not fun to say the least.  One time was, unfortunately, an ex-girlfriend, which I suppose I could have prevented though I had no way to know she'd turn out how she did.  The other person was apparently a federal prisoner and I only found out because the IRS put a hold on my tax filing because they'd already processed one from someone else with a return address of some prison in Arizona! (I live in New Jersey.)  Now I have to go through extra measures every year when I file my taxes, but I guess it's "for my protection".

Doesn't make me like the IRS any better, lol.

Best regards,
Ben

Lol! So you know how it feels when your identity data is misused by someone unauthorized. That's exactly I am trying to say to the community. Since you are from USA, you must be knowing that SSN data has an underground market. A lot of offshore call centers are associated in buying and selling of KYC data of USA people. But when it comes to ICO, no one is sure about their identity and the future usage of your KYC data. Till date, I have't seen a big scam surfaced from the ICO market on KYC data, but it may happen in future. So it's better to take precaution. 
6608  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Look at the last quote - Nikola Tesla knew bitcoin was coming on: March 12, 2018, 09:26:42 AM
"All that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed - only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle" - Nicola Tesla.

Where is crypto currency in his quote? Neither do I see anything about Disruptive technology. It is a general quote about technological advancements.
6609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: VOTE! Do you participate in ICO that requires KYC (your personal data)? on: March 12, 2018, 07:16:12 AM
I dont think it will be good to participate these verifications because it would risk your identity and personal informations,you could just wait for the project to be listed in some exchanges,then wait those bounty hunters and investors to dump these coins so that you can get these coins below the ICO price and still your privacy wont be compromised.
in contrast to your thinking that KYC aims to protect us as investors. Because we get token legally and get security guarantee. Bounty hunter is also an investor because they work and get tokens to trade. KYC is also a threat to fraudsters in this forum they can not hire their multiple accounts.

It is very easy to create fake IDs just like the fake accounts. Check google playstore from any android phone and you will see at least 20 different apps that will let you create fake virtual IDs. So a person creating fake accounts can also use those apps and create fake IDs to participate in ICOs. However, from my experience with ICO bounties, I have seen companies are not asking bounty hunters to provide their identity (at least a majority of them), so we bounty hunters are safe as of now.

I have created a topic long back on the same issue and also mentioned three pointers of the concerns. Do visit and share your opinion as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2946614.40

Thanks,
Avikz
6610  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sri lankan government ban bitcoin in the future ?? on: March 11, 2018, 09:46:19 PM
sri lankan government bloked some social media sites now and they decided to blok the sites permanently soon. Do you think sri lankam government will ban bitcoin like that??

I am not from Sri Lanka so I don't know which sites they have blocked. If you can give us a list if the sites that have been blocked by the Sri Lankan government, we would be able to comment on that. But the social media site blocking seems like a part of the ongoing issues with Rohinga refuges and Buddhists. So the ban should not be permanent. But if the ban is permanent, then it may go to any extent.

We need governments like Japan and Germany who can think progressive. If the Sri Lankan government bans crypto currency completely, it will show why a nation can be poor with no intention to come out of that situation, just like Bangladesh.
6611  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Germany Approves Cryptocurrency As Legal Means Of Payment on: March 11, 2018, 06:34:29 PM
Wow!! That's a good news! Germany is the 4th largest economy of the world and one of the top countries to have the highest per capita income. So when such encouraging news comes from such a country, it's a good news for the entire crypto economy. I am sure we will see an influx of new investors in the crypto market soon which will provide a strong support to the bitcoin price which is needed. I really hope other countries in EU will soon adopt the way Germany adopted the crypto currency for a better future. 
6612  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is better than gold on: March 11, 2018, 06:03:44 PM
From an investment point of view, bitcoin is more about gold than it is about other currencies. That's because as an asset, bitcoin and gold have a lot in common. Both are limited to supply, both have functions to use, and many believe that, despite their large price fluctuations, they remain a good store of value. Compared to gold and currency investment returns in the past five years, the currency's performance is far better than the so-called precious metals, gold year loss than 6%, the currency of the annualized rate of return is 155%. These rich returns show that bitcoin has excited investors about the prospect of putting money into such a new asset class.

Compared with the gold standard, the value of the currency rising and proven performance, investors can be used to measure the investment of the world's leading digital currency future opportunity and risk indicators.

Bitcoin and gold both are structurally different from each other. You can touch gold but not bitcoin. You can make ornaments out of gold as well. Gold is not always seen as an investment in many countries where as bitcoin is mainly seen as an investment by majority of the crypto enthusiasts. These basic factors sets them apart even though there are few things in common.

If you compare the rate of return from both gold and bitcoin investment, I am sure bitcoin will stay in the top place as you've already mentioned. But if we talk about the capital protection, bitcoin is one hell risky venture. Bitcoin's price can go to any level within a very short period of time. But on the other hand, gold price is way more stable than bitcoin which makes it a preferred investment to many people who are not capable to jump into high risk ventures. So both are different and should not be compared.
6613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government's corruption using Coins on: March 11, 2018, 03:24:30 PM
There's no point of using Bitcoin to hide corruption since Bitcoin is only pseudonymous and if the corruptor buy the bitcoin with centralized exchange or/and link their bank account, they're doomed. Even worse if the whole process was done with unsecure connection.
They should use full-anonymous coins such as Monero with secure connection and use decentralized exhange to hide their asset well Roll Eyes

Also, the government can use 3rd party tracker such chainalysis to track down the coins and notify to all legal bitcoin services/exchange to notify government once the tainted coins is deposited to their services/exchange.

Correct! I was about to say the same thing. Converting money in to bitcoin through a centralized exchange will not help them to hide the dirty money trail and it will be easier for the government to catch them quickly. But anonymous currency like xmr or deeponion will be an ideal choice. Also while coverting they should make a cash deal instead of using any bank account. This way the trail can be hidden, otherwise, everything will become public.
6614  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia to Criminalize Bitcoin Use.. on: March 11, 2018, 10:35:05 AM
Russian president Vladimir Putin is a bitcoin skeptic who wants cryptocurrency regulations in place “by July 1," according to the official government publication Parlamentskaya Gazeta.The regulations are part of the Digital Assets Regulation Bill, which is expected to set guidelines for cryptocurrency use in Russia.

Separately, the Russian Ministry of Finance plans to introduce a law that will criminalize the use of cryptocurrencies as money substitutes.Elvira Nabiullina, head of the Bank of Russia, said she and the Russian Finance Ministry oppose the use of virtual currencies "as private money and money surrogates,” saying only the ruble can be used to pay for goods and services, Bitcoin.com reported. "There is the ruble, and everything else is a surrogate," she said. Nabiullina said the move to criminalize the use of bitcoin and other digital currencies as money substitutes is to protect the Russian ruble. "This is necessary to protect the ruble as the single legal [means of] payment in Russia," she said.

https://www.investopedia.com/news

I don't know how many times they will legalize and then criminalize Cryptocurrency!! Russian finance authority seems confused about their actions and unable to come up with a proper legislation from some time now.

But whatever happens, it will just be another exit from a communist nation like China who believes in strong centralization of power. A temporary impact will be there but nothing for long term
6615  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the Biggest Bubble in Human History? on: March 11, 2018, 10:00:01 AM
The market is finally showing some weakness after a wild post-election stock market run-up, and it's taking Bitcoin with it. At least so far.

Three years ago, Bitcoin was under $400, a price I thought was too high even then. As far as I'm concerned, Bitcoin has no intrinsic value and should be worth nothing. So why does anyone think it's worth thousands (and in some cases, millions) of dollars?
It's the theory of false scarcity. There are a limited number of bitcoins in the world and the usage of blockchain technology has assigned the ownership of each coin to specific wallets owned by individuals. So to take "ownership," I have to use the universal blockchain mechanism, accepted by all as valid, to transfer a coin.

Technically you are right. Bitcoin doesn't have any intrinsic value if I look from your perspective and the value should be zero. But again if I look at the blockchain technology keeping the bitcoin aside, I see immense future use of this technology. We are yet to discover the immense possibilities it can offer in our daily life. We have probably discover 10% of its possibilities and rest 90% will come up in future.

You can see major governments are now researching on blockchain technology to put it in its rightful use. There are big consulting companies like BCG, Deloitte, EY are recruiting blockchain professionals to discover its diversity. So the technology itself has a value. Bitcoin being the pioneer of this technology, inherited that value. So if you look from my point of view, you will see a value.

But if I keep everything aside and talk about just the price, it is a store of value. While rest of the world riding the tide, why would I not do the same and earn some money in that process? It doesn't matter whether it has intrinsic value or not. Till the time, there is a market for bitcoin, you will always see people like me riding the tide.
6616  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you believe is needed for crypto currencies to be mass adopted? on: March 10, 2018, 05:42:54 PM
We at Quantum1Net believes what needed is higher amount of data transaction and speed, lower power consumption and stronger security.
https://github.com/quantum1net/Documents
Other than that, what do you think?

You have spoken about the technology side in your thread. It certainly needs higher amount of data transaction and speed, lower power consumption and stronger security. But then what? What to do with lightening fast speed and strongest security if there is no market? So let me talk about the economical perspective here,

1. Market for crypto currency:
It is the main thing needed for a crypto currency to survive and thrive. Today, we have a massive online market of crypto currency where people are are buying and selling it, but when we look at the goods and services market, we see a big blank space. We have a very few options where we can use our crypto currency for regular purchase of goods and services. Whatever small options we have, that is too restricted by countries. So we need our merchants to accept crypto currency for a healthy crypto ecosystem. Here technology can bridge the gap currently exists.

2. Regulations:
It might sound awkward but it is true. Regulation can make the crypto market shine like a moon. Over 90% of the world population are very conservative about their finances. These percentage of population would not try anything new in their entire life if that particular thing is not approved and regulated by their government. The statistics looks shocking but it's true. The members of these community don't come under this percentage hence it will be hard to digest, but try talking to your grandparents about crypto currency and ask them to invest in it, you will understand the fact. If crypto currency is adopted and regulated by a majority of the government, the entire market dynamics will change for better.

There are other factors as well. However, these two are the basic factors which will help crypto currency to be adopted by the common mass. Obviously we can't think anything less about the technological aspect of it because we will need to infrastructure to support this market and technological advancements is the only we can achieve that.  
6617  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: EU Moving In To Regulate CryptoCurrency Industry on: March 10, 2018, 05:19:12 PM
This is quite interesting how the EU are doing it. They are making out as though they are just wanting to step in and regulate crowdfunding websites but if you dig a bit deeper it actually shows they want to regulate anything where finance is being raised. This would greatly change the face of Crypto EU wide.

http://learnccrb.com/2018/03/eu-wants-to-regulate-fintech-including-blockchain/

That's what a basic regulation does. EU is not doing anything differently. Every government wants to regulated anything where funds are being raised and also to increase the tax income. Also I wholeheartedly support if EU will bring some regulations on the ICOs. That is very much needed. Majority of the ICOS are scam and run by a college kind in disguise of a professional looking website. We need to cut such craps down from the crypto market to bring back the credibility. If the scammers can roam free, ICO market will soon become similar to HYIP market and the entire crypto currency industry will loose the faith of common investors like you and me.
6618  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First Try At Analyzing BTC - Bear Market on: March 10, 2018, 04:19:07 PM
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/X7mVLNpw-Year-of-the-Bear-for-BTC/

Overall, I see BTC continuing down on its downward path.  There was a distinct bear flag directly before the abrupt drop.  Another one is forming very nicely right now.  Can this be the next signal of a big drop???

Please give me any feedback that you have.  I am still learning and would welcome any at all.

Bitcoin price trend doesn't really follow the real world stock market technical analysis techniques. So probably after two bear flags, bitcoin price may go up. Stock market is very much regulated and hence there is scope of technical analysis becoming true. But on the other hand, bitcoin market actually shows the free market behaviour and raw reflection of human sentiment which certainly doesn't go along with real world techniques.
6619  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what do you think about bitcoin's dominance over whole crypto market? on: March 10, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
1. over 40% now, do you think this percentage will keep going?

2. what will happen if % drops, is this a positive or negative sign for you?

Dominance percentage of bitcoin over entire crypto currency market, is not a very important ticker for the traders and speculators like me. Because we have seen in the past, that dominance actually doesn't help to increase the price of bitcoin. It is just a ticker among all other tickers and not a very significant one. It just shows the public interest on bitcoin over all other crypto currencies. So increasing market dominance is a good news in general and vice versa. But it won't really help us to achieve anything.

Currently the dominance is increasing because the value of entire crypto market is going down and bitcoin is somehow managed to maintain the decrease within a certain percentage limit. It doesn't signifies anything great but yes, it just tells us the overall health of bitcoin among other competition.
6620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it better to have many altcoins or it is enough to have few? on: March 10, 2018, 12:31:06 PM
I know that there are many kinds of alternative coins existing today, but is it better to have that many coins instead of having just a few? What are the benefits and harm in having that many alternative coins?

Diversification is the key to a healthy investment portfolio. So it is always better to have more different types of coins. However, if you are going to invest out of your pocket then be choosy and always research before you leap in with your hard earned money. But if you are targeting ICO bounties where you don't need to invest out of your pocket, try to join as many as possible. Because out of 10 bounties you will receive, you will probably see value in two or three coins and rest all may be useless. So for bounties, definitely try to have as many as possible, but when it comes to investment, research well before you jump in. Because if you don't research well, you may end up loosing your entire investment.
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