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6641  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: if ETH hold above 168, downtrend will be over. on: October 03, 2019, 09:13:21 AM
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but the predictions are not entirely true, news, fud, fomo, pump, dump, there will always be a chart that does not match the predictions and make market unpredictable.

What you mentioned is a condition is not a part of technical analysis. However, many people take advantage of these conditions, even have to take greater risks. Because, sometimes fundamental analysis is not as expected, especially for new traders.
6642  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Antara uang dunia dan digital on: October 03, 2019, 05:01:59 AM

jangankan 10-15 tahun pada saat ini saja sudah banyak warung pinggir jalan menerima gopay ataupun ovo om apa lagi dikota besar sepreti tempat saya tinggal di medan.


Yang dimaksud mas Joni ini adalah untuk proses "penggunaan hampir merata" dibutuhkan waktu setidaknya 10-15 tahun, kalau seperti medan sudah pasti banyak yang menggunakan uang digital. Di Desa tempat saya tinggal, yang mana mayoritas make HP cuma buat facebookan, mana mungkin mau nerima OVO, yang ada pas ditanya "bisa bayar pake OVO" yang ada jawabnya "bayar pake duit, karena mengira OVO itu OPO", he he he. Lagi pula, kebanyakan itu hanya hype di awal-awal saja. Contoh kasus Tcash, awal-awal rame, kemudian sepi. Dompet Indosat, juga bernasip sama, antara hidup dan mati ga jelas. OVO dan gopay, memang sudah masuk target market dalam implementasinya yaitu menyasar e-commerce untuk mencari pengguna yang notabene banyak pengguna di dalamnya. "Pemburu diskon" itulah yang rata-rata membuat perusahaan gagal bertahan lama. Sama halnya dalam dunia bounty & airdrop, Indonesia kebanyakan tuyulnya. Sekali ada promo, langsung sikta sebanyak-banyaknya yang membuat kerugian besar para pengembang. Alhasil, strategi diskon perusahaan membuat rugi dirinya sendiri.

kalau uang kripto dijadikan alat pembayaran
Ini masih sebatas mimpi kita semua yang paham "crypto", karena sudah pasti terbentur UU, yang pasti sulit untuk bisa diterapkan di wilayah hukum Indonesia. untuk poin ini tidak perlu diperpanjang nanti bakalan muter-muter di UU. bisa cek referensinya di thread ini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113676.0


Sepertinya memang agak susah bagi Gopay buat lanjut selama mereka tidak mempunyai bank sendiri. beda dengan OVO yang ada NOBU Bank dibelakangnya.
saya kira, persaingan uang digital tersebut akan sulit bersaing dengan bank-bank yang sudah mapan layaknya BUMN, kalau pun ada eliminasi 2.0

Sakuku dan inovasi dari BCA akan uang digital ini menjadi terdepan menurut saya. Bagaimana tidak, untuk segala urusan keuangan sudah bisa dilakukan dengan mobile banking. Mulai dari setor/tarik tanpa harus kartu, pengguna BCA sebenarnya tidak perlu lagi make OVO dkk, karena melalui sakuku, mereka sudah bisa belanja di manapun, tapi ya kembali pada penggunaan masih belum merata.
6643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 03, 2019, 04:19:24 AM
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Exactly, as I said before, they must win at least 3 matches. I don't think they can't do it. May be difficult, but something can happen. Even they don't have any target for this competition, of course they will play optimally as they can. Because, they got new hope for the future of clubs in Serie-A. Playing at UCL give Atalanta players lot of experience and it becomes an advantages for them. Maybe for the current targets is, how to stay on top 3 in Serie-A until end of this season.
6644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 03, 2019, 03:41:23 AM
As the representative of Serie A won the UCL match this week, while Intermilan suffered defeat against Barcelona, Napoli only got a draw against the club Genk and also Atalanta suffered defeat against Shakhtar.

Atalanta will be hard to play at UCL for this season. But, I see them still good on domestic league. In serie-A, they can beat Roma, draw with Fiorentina and become on 3rd place until match day 6, I think Atalanta would be better for the next season in UCL if they are qualified again. But, they must keep their best performance until last season on serie-a. So, for this season, I think Atalanta doesn't have a chance to be on the next round. 9 points to save their chance in the next round, Antalanta must keep winning for 3 matches.
6645  Economy / Scam Accusations / [Warning] Acashcoin - Fake Team on: October 03, 2019, 02:31:42 AM
Project name as : Acashcoin currently no thread on Bitcointalk. But you can find it on another forum (archives failed because must solve chaptcha)

Bounty for this project found on Bitcointalk forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189582.0;topicseen
Archives: https://archive.fo/Mvshr
Thread creator: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2687026

Websites: https://aca.cash/
Archives: https://archive.fo/cSIC8
Domain lookup: https://www.namecheap.com/domains/whois/results.aspx?domain=aca.cash

Jay Brakash


Real name: Jai Kumar Nair
Reference: sites 1 | site 2

Jon James

Real name: unknown
Job: Fashion model



Another Scam Accusation Report for Acash Coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180528.0 by tvplus006
6646  Economy / Services / Re: [SERVICE] Julerz's Bounty Campaign Management 🚧🚧🚧 on: October 03, 2019, 01:18:54 AM
Hello Julerz, I want to ask about restricting message on your telegram. The story of the case, Yesterday I was giving response to another member's who have a question about distributions of your campaign. Then, I am replying to his question with projects you handle before. I don't understand why you have deleted this post and blocking me to give any post. I am trying to contact you by telegram, but still no answer. Can you give me and answer? If you want to reply my message on the telegram, you can find me here.

screnshot: https://i.postimg.cc/DZVrC8k9/image.png

Thank you for any response.


Update case:
Good communication with Jule on telegram, problem solved.
6647  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BOUNTY YOBIT PRO DAN KONTRA on: October 03, 2019, 12:21:42 AM
Sangat kepengen sekali mendapat bayaran dari bounty yobit yang bisa secepat kilat, belum lagi bayarannya dalam bentuk bitcoin langsung di kirim ke akun yobit, namun semua sia2 dengan akun hanya level member, coba seandainya tidak ada aturan merit mungkin sudah bisa ikut signature yobit,
Sistem merit tidak menghalangi kita untuk tidak bisa ikut kampanye yang bagus dengan bayaran BTC. Tetapi ini membuat kita lebih sadar akan kualitas suatu post yang akan kita buat. Tidak ada aturan merit sekali pun, jika member tersebut 80% postingannya hanya PoA dan report bounty ya pastinya tetep tidak bisa ikut kampanye. bayaran secepat kilat, kalau kita hanya mencari-cari post/thread lama untuk dijadikan tempat komen demi mencapai target, ya sama aja kurang baik. Banyak thread tenggelam dikomentari kembali hanya karena berusaha untuk mencari jumlah post pada kampanye Yobit ini. Dan ini sangat disayangkan menurut saya. Tapi ya, semua itu risiko dari user itu sendiri sih.  

Memang signatur ini sangat menarik perhatian, namun tidak usah menyalahkan sistem, Merit mencegah banyak sekali akun untuk naik rank termasuk akun saya, tapi menyalahkan bukan hal yang tepat. Rezeki sudah ada yang atur gan. Intinya belum rezeki agan
Merit juga tidak mencegah kita untuk tidak naik rank, contohnya mas abhiseshakana, mas pandukelana, Husna QA dan saya sendiri masih bisa naik rank. Jika saya lihat profil mas,  pendaftaran akun dengan saya tidak jauh beda, sama-sama daftartahun 2017. Saya dulu sempat mikir bakal sulit untuk naik rank, tetapi, ternyata apa yang saya pikirkan sangat salah. Member-member Indonesia ga pelit untuk berbagi merit, asal kita mau memperbaiki kualitas post yang kita buat. Bahkan moderator SFI merupakan merit source untuk member Indonesia. Semua tinggal bagaimana kita saja mas.

Note: mohon untuk tidak membahas yang tentang meritnya agar tidak OOT
6648  Economy / Scam Accusations / [Warning] DEN WALLET - Plagiarized Whitepaper on: October 02, 2019, 11:08:29 PM
Thread Title: [ANN] [ICO] DEN Wallet | DEX, DAPPS & Portfolio
Forum Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189533.0
Thread creator: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2636672
Thread archives: https://archive.fo/4cdaB

Domain address: denwallet.org
Website archives: https://archive.is/MJVz4
Domain Lookup: https://www.namecheap.com/domains/whois/results.aspx?domain=denwallet.org

Whitepaper archives: https://gofile.io/?c=Loc63D

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ORIGINAL
https://equal.tech/documents/Equal_Token_Whitepaper-v3.0.pdf
https://medium.com/equal-network/the-eql-dapp-store-293cfe7bac69
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PROOF:




6649  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Adakah cara untuk mempercepat adopsi bitcoin di Indonesia? on: October 02, 2019, 04:55:12 PM
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Betul mas, apa yang mas sampaikan ini juga sudah dibahas berulang kali pada beberapa halaman yang mana "mentok di pemerintahan, mentok di UU pembayaran dan lain sebagainya yang pusatnya pada pemerintah dan regulasi".


Seperti yang dikatakan mas LJunior
"
Lips sealed Ngk bosan apa, ini reply udh 199-1 kata kunci nya hanya berputar2 di legalitas,  bitchcoin term, harapan,  pesimisme dll.

Coba deh yg reply,  baca2 di page #1 s/d semampunya baca.  80% pasti muter2 di pembahasan itu.

Mohon jangan ada yg merasa tersinggung, fakta nya sprti itu. Mari berkarya dalam "Diam".

Memang sudah saatnya thread ini di Lock, lagian yang bikin thread udah lama ga nongol. Threadnya dibuat terbengkalai  Grin
6650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 02, 2019, 04:22:54 PM
It is not the manager fault,Milan has not the quality players once it had and with this composition of players will have quite some difficulties to perform well against other teams in Serie A,losing almost every game in this beginning is not a good sign either.

When AC Milan under Anchelotti, I think it's not his fault. Because most of players to old and another team starting to bring young players. Falling under Allegri, it happens because AC Milan selling best players, it's not his fault. Gattuso brings something new for AC Milan players, he is friendly managers for all players. Bring positive culture for AC Milan and players playing with respect, like he was influence of young AC Milan players. Something was Giampaolo not have. In my opinion, Giampaolo, Inzaghi, Brocchi, it's look like same managers who don't have ability to manage AC Milan players.

In recent rumors I read, Gattuso will be back to AC Milan with one condition to get powers to buy players as he wants.

Gennaro Gattuso would only take into consideration an offer only if it arrives directly from Elliot. Gattuso resigned this summer after the club failed to accept his demands regarding the transfer targets he wanted to sign.

Let see next week, who will be the next manager of AC Milan, giving Giampaolo more times or new manager come .
6651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Bup]bitcoin + eth go gup on: October 02, 2019, 03:33:20 PM
If you are trying to bumping with ("similar bump post"), i think you can do it at bounties section.because bumping system on this board already changes. To bump your post, you need have an activity or merit from last year. You can read all about bump in here. And, your last bump post must be deleted before creating new bump post. If you are still bumping and not follow forum rules, i will report your post to moderators

Btw, I don't understand about your thread. No websites, no whitepaper, no team info. So how we must believe in your project if no data/information we can see?
6652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: October 02, 2019, 02:21:53 PM
Liverpool should get their boots on tonight. Salah to return to scoring form. Share PICS @LFC!

Yeah, playing at liverpool stadium will give more effect for Liverpool, but it's not good for Red Bull.  Let's see, on data match, Livepool comes with good morale after winning streak from last 3 games specially winning vs Chelsea. Even Red Bull also making winning streak, Liverpool position as champions last season, I think they will play all out to get a chance to be a champions league for this season too.
6653  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Q&A] Tanya Jawab Seputar Forum Disini/Ask about this forum here! on: October 02, 2019, 02:02:58 PM
Saya lihat mas akhzayn masih berusaha untuk memperjuangkan statusnya, sayangnya, kalau menurut pendapat pribadi saya, ketika kita dihadapkan dengan masalah tersebut, sebaiknya dijelaskan lebih lanjut mengenai kasusnya secara personal kepada BM baik melalui PM atau pun melalui Telegram. Ini untuk menghindari post yang berlebihan pada thread list banned Cryptotalk yang pastikan dapat membuat Yahoo semakin "kesel".

Kemudian, Yahoo sudah menjelaskan tidak ada kesempatan kedua bagi akun yang sudah dibanned dari kampanye. Nah, pada kasus ini, sebaiknya mas akhzayn ini membersihkan namanya dengan tujuan untuk mengikuti bounty selanjutnya jika dikhawatirkan pemberi neutral trust ini tidak menghilangkan referensi tersebut, Syukur-syukur kalau mas ini mulai menjelaskan pada pemberi neutral trust untuk menghilangkan penilaiannya seperti yang sudah disebutkan di atas. Karena saya lihat MaoChao masih aktif di forum ini. Mungkin saat ini mendingan menyerah pada bounty cryptotalk, jika tidak ingin banding ke Yahoo karena tidak mendapatkan jawabannya. Sangat saya sarankan untuk banding ke MaoChao. Mungkin dengan cara ini akan lebih menambah kepercayaan dari Yahoo nantinya.

Tapi ingat, jangan karena merasa tidak diberikan jawaban, Anda mengeluarkan kata-kata yang tidak baik pada member maupun pada BM secara langsung. Ini akan makin membuat Anda kesulitan untuk ikut campaign yahoo selanjutnya. Pada akhirnya, saya doakan "semoga berhasil mas".
6654  Other / Meta / Re: Report Malware and Suspicious Links here so Mods can take Action ! on: October 02, 2019, 12:54:44 PM
[ANN]⚡️[ICO]SEKOPAY EXCHANGE  SEKOPAY POS & MASTERNODES  SEKOPAY APP⚡️[ANN]


FAKE ANN
Thrad: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184137.0
Creator: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=995704

Wallet scan result:
Zipezip: https://zipezip.com/ufiles/06ee2863318032cae1bbc1e291218f3f

Virusdesk:

Code:
[u]File name: seko-qt.exe[/u]
Scan result : threats detected
Threat name: Trojan-Spy.MSIL.Quasar.iaa
File size: 1.38 MB
File type: PE32/EXE
Scan date: Oct 02 2019 19:39:12
Databases release date: Oct 02 2019 12:31:37 UTC
MD5: 046725a7ae791f4e2129d3fd13c449fc
SHA1: d36e500677524b22f5e3b44f55dc87337910ff1c
SHA256: bd8541c72e2bee43ada2bde6abb9729d0f992b6b43b61d8f58542ce97c741721

[u]FILE NAME: seko-qt.rar[/u]
Scan result: threats detected
Threat name: Trojan-Spy.MSIL.Quasar.iaa
File size 948.08 KB
File type ARC/RAR
Scan date: Oct 02 2019 19:39:12
Databases release date: Oct 02 2019 12:31:37 UTC
MD5: 010d9c752aeaab33d2284e396a6f1c27
SHA1: 9e2ae88355e9289c763bb298d6bd1eaef3e2b42d
SHA256: 720e25d7fc1beebf8941fcf4986adc6f1e7f19361b55b6f1d46e97213cd73f5e

https://github.com/SekoPay/sekopaycoin/releases/download/v2.3.0/SekoPay-v2.3.0-WIN.zip

Screenshot: https://i.imgsafe.org/49/49b089b4ed.png
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Original ANN based on Coingecko

Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046889.0 (No content)
Official github: https://github.com/sekopaycoin (official github username: sekopaycoin / fake github username: SekoPay)

This is the second FAKE ANN thread I found was created by pochy123.
6655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: foxconn network is a Tokyo based Company Launch Crypto trading Platform on: October 02, 2019, 11:31:42 AM
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This project potentially scam. you can check references about this at this topic, so i suggest you to be careful if you are interested to join ICO/IEO or anything about token sale of Foxconn. And I am sure, OP would not answer your question. or even he give an answer, it will be a lie, i think. so, stay away for this project, or you can join with your own risk.
6656  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Aliansi Koin Indonesia Community and Blockchain & Cryptocurrency Solution on: October 02, 2019, 09:58:52 AM
Langkah yang cukup bagus ini. Jika pelatihan tersebut disertai dengan pengetahuan yang lebih jauh tentang kripto bagi para penegak hukum. Sayangnya, jika saya baca dari press rilis yang dikeluarkan oleh kejaksaan, ada materi pengetahuan yang juga membahasa penanganan di sana, Saya harap sih ini benar-benar dipersiapkan dengan baik oleh pemerintah dan penegak hukum Indonesia. Mengingat saat ini sudah banyak proyek yang developernya dari Indonesia. Jadi, jika sewaktu-waktu ada scam dari pihak pengembang Indonesia, penegak hukum lebih paham bagaimana cara melacaknya dan bagaimana menenagani masalah tersebut.
6657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 02, 2019, 09:28:23 AM
Marco Giampaolo really needs a lot of time. Because he has just coached AC Milan this season, so it is unethical to be replaced because of the poor results experienced by AC Milan's squad.

If that needs to be done "changing coaches" are there 4 potential candidates to replace Marco Giampaolo:

1. Andriy Shevchenko
2. Arsene Wenger
3. Rudi Garcia
4. Claudio Ranieri

We never know who deserves it, but it's better to give Marco Giampaolo more time to build AC Milan to be even better.

Maybe hard to AC Milan staying with Giampaolo, As we know, AC Milan need to back to Champions League, Gatusso was doing something different last season.

About candidates to replace Giampaolo as manager, I prefer to Arsene Wenger on the pole, and Ranieri as option 2. And Rudi Garcia as option 3. Shevchenko was great as players, but I don't know his capability as manager.
6658  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BCNEX | The Ultimate Blockchain Trading Platform on: October 01, 2019, 11:40:14 PM
I joined the TRX giveaway and I have a BCNEX account but my account has not been verified and if I become one of the winners will TRX coins enter my account? or do I need to verify?

You don't need to verify to get payment of this lucky draw event, as far as your number is selected as the winners, you can receive TRON on your wallets (BCNEX wallet).
Distribution place: TRON user’s wallet on Bcnex (KYC is not required)
You can read full details on BCNEX blog.

6659  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: YoBit Signature Campaign (Bitcointalk) on: October 01, 2019, 11:20:00 PM

I've asked Yobit why I'm not payd. This is the answer.



So, why you think you can leave negative feedback, when Yahoo is announcing Yobit's campaigns? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188047.0 Why there is no your negative feedback too?

This is not true, yesterday I am testing for withdrawal from Yobit success. I don't need to make a deposit as mention on that email to WD. I am sure this email is fake. If you need a proof, I can give it to you.
6660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: October 01, 2019, 02:41:04 PM
Smaller teams in La Liga could learn from Leicester's historic campaign though. Pounce at every opportunity while top teams blunder.
 

I agree, until week 7, Grenada making good start with one match getting lose. If they can consistant until half of this season, maybe this team can be fight for champions. Or at least become top 3. La Liga need new champions because for few last season only Barca and Madrid dominated champions of this league.
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