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6641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fine line between market investment and sports gambling on: April 14, 2021, 02:15:27 PM
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indeed, inveting is not always guaranteed to make great returns over the longer run if one makes bad decisions
though if managing risk and being responsible the possiblity of a positive outcome is much higher than with gambling.

it's also much harder to find an edge while gambling than on investing.
As long as we can get the right investment, we can make a profit in the future. But we need to know how to manage the risk or select the investment to get a positive result. The fine line between investment and gambling can confuse people because if they do not research more about both things, they can gamble with their money which does not give them the profit.

Maybe the benefit of gambling is we can feel relax and have fun but if we play longer, that can make us lose money. At the same time, the investment will give us more return than gambling.
6642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have anyone tried to stop gamblers from losing while they keep on wagering. on: April 14, 2021, 01:22:36 PM
I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.
That can make misunderstanding between them and us and if there are no mutually succumbing to each other, that can lead to a fight between us. If they do not want to accept my advice to stop gambling right away, I will leave them and tell the other friends that he needs help to stop gambling. I do not want to trigger a fight with people who still want to gamble because that can offend him, making our relationship a problem.

That is the right approach.You cannot try and give advice to a gambler while he is playing and he cannot really focus to your advice.Beside that this is the worst moment to talk to a gambler especially if he is losing a lot of money and can trigger only bad things.The best thing to do is to talk to him when he finish the session and can focus or be more relaxed to listen to you.
Yes, but I am afraid that we need to wait until he finishes the session, and if he finishes in the next hour with a big loss, I am worried that he can become mad, sad, or another negative feeling. Maybe at that time, we can let him alone and not disturb him but we need to watch out for him to make sure he does not do anything worse. That is what a real friend needs to do when he sees his friend is drops and still beside him no matter how his conditions. I am sure he will open his mind when he can calm down after losing that money.
6643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Saving asset in bitcoin is much more better than saving in banks on: April 14, 2021, 12:29:16 PM
That will be your choice as we do not force you to do that thing. If you think saving your money in bitcoin form will give you more profit than saving in the banks, you are free to do that. But for your information, you need to know that saving in bitcoin will have a risk that the price can go to any price. If you can accept that risk, you can continue to move your money into a bitcoin form and hold your bitcoin. But you need to make sure that you can still buy your daily needs and still have the money for an urgent situation that might happen.
6644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When do you think bear market will come? on: April 14, 2021, 11:26:08 AM
When do you think bear market will come and why do you think so?
Maybe you do not need to confuse when the bear market comes because we are still in a bullish market so we do not know when it will over. But I guess the bullish trend will continue until the end of this year since bitcoin can still increase and lead the altcoin to follow to increase. Personally, I do not want to see the bear market will come soon after we wait for almost 3 years ago and the bitcoin price needed to lift the price to the next new ATH after the halving moment last year.

It is better to enjoy this moment by making a lot of money from many altcoins before this time is over and leave you without making any money. But in this bullish trend, we will see the bear trend that will happen after the price reaches the high peak price.
6645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your Favorite Slot Theme on: April 14, 2021, 10:05:09 AM
With all of that list, I select Fruit machines and Fairy tales and mystical.

But I do not have a favourite slot theme because I do not really care about the background or the slot theme.

I visit every link of the slot theme you gave in the article, and I like High Noon – a Nucleus Gaming Slot, Dead Or Alive (it reminds me of Bon Jovi Grin), Aureus – a Crazy Tooth Studio Slot.
6646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Devices used for Gambling on: April 14, 2021, 06:55:16 AM
I had a coulegues that used mobile phone which is for gaming and it comes with larger screen scale. Though most gamblers suggested pc or laptop, but what I observed that using cellphone can be a most comfortable ways to deal with gambling. You can carry anytime you wanted to, and the access is more easy instead of desktop and laptop.
One key to use the effective mobile gadget is, find those bigger memory, storage and faster processor unit so you can initiate your gambling activity smoothly.
When you use a mobile phone, you can gamble or play gaming anywhere you want and be related to the convenience that you will get. But if you stay at home and not go somewhere, your choice will be a computer or laptop, but the computer will be suggestable by many members. Suppose you want to buy a mobile gadget with high-end technology. In that case, I think the price will not be cheap, so that will be better if you use a computer because, with the same money amount, you can get better computer specification instead to buy a mobile phone.
6647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have anyone tried to stop gamblers from losing while they keep on wagering. on: April 14, 2021, 05:59:29 AM
I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.
That can make misunderstanding between them and us and if there are no mutually succumbing to each other, that can lead to a fight between us. If they do not want to accept my advice to stop gambling right away, I will leave them and tell the other friends that he needs help to stop gambling. I do not want to trigger a fight with people who still want to gamble because that can offend him, making our relationship a problem.
6648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling firms helping Government and people during quarantine, literally. on: April 14, 2021, 04:42:23 AM
It always amazes me that some people get mad just because the one that is giving money away in the form of charity gets good publicity and they think that is the only reason why they are doing it, even if that is the case and the person or institution that is giving money away is only doing it for the publicity then who cares? What matters is that people are receiving help that otherwise they would not have received.


They should be lauded instead of hiring personalities to promote their project, they opted to donate to the government and support the needy people, of course, there's publicity behind it, this is a way to know that even if they are a gambling company they care for people and they know that government needs money to sustain their projects for those who are in need.
Yes, that can give them good reputations because besides running a gambling business, they also care about other people's lives, so they donate their income and give it to the government. If the other casino can give their help to the government, it will bring good news to people because they will get more support from many sides. With that donation, people out there can still survive and they do not have to suffer because the pandemic still happens in many places. If we can also help the government by donating what we have, that can support the government and give them a space to distribute the donation to more people.
6649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you limit your gambling time? on: April 14, 2021, 03:21:14 AM
For me, it is easier to limit the time to play gambling than to limit the amount of money we will use to play gambling. Therefore, I will not
play gambling every day, I only play gambling when I have spare time. But the benefit I get from limiting my gambling time is that I have
more control over myself so that I don't get addicted.
But that will not be easy if we got fun and really enjoy the game because that can make us hard to stop gambling for the next rounds. Playing gambling only in our spare time will be recommended so we do not always gamble. That is one way to limit our time and funds in gambling because we can use the money for other things. Preventing the addiction is something that every gambler must do to avoid a big loss.
6650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 14, 2021, 02:23:58 AM
Sometimes it is not greed though but also a fear to lose more.
It is most likely the fear of losing more. Some people may see it as greedy because the player keeps tossing in more. But for some who have been and experienced the same thing, they know the player is trying to gain back what he/she lost.
When they try to gain back what they lost before, that will not be easy for them because that can be the other loss of money for them. Even if you can recover what you lose, that will not fully recover because you will still have a loss in the end. If you can gain back you lose, you will be tempted and think that you will win more in the next amount to lead you to get another loss. Whenever you won, that would be your time to quit gambling and not continue gambling because that will be the way for a gambler to have another loss.
6651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: April 13, 2021, 10:01:45 PM
This year can be their best time to earn much money from the bounty to use some amount to gamble, although that is not advisable to them. I think with the bull run happen this year, they can save and hold their payment and not use it for gambling instead of selling at a high price. If the price of many coins increases, they can stop gamble for a while and focus on making money by selling their coins such as bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin, dash, or even doge. But that will be their choice to gamble or not.
Yes, Cryptocurrency is passing it's best time now. We have already seen new ATH by Bitcoin today and as well as we are seeing it every week. People now focusing om trade more than gambling as I am comparing it with my circle. Most of them are involved in trading now.
That is why it will be advisable to save our income for a while, especially if the payment is in bitcoin. If we can save more satoshi from the payment, we will make a big profit if we can sell it at a high price. So we do not just use to gamble using bitcoin because bitcoin now become too worth it. That is what we did or most people because we do not have many bitcoins, and that will different if we have a huge amount of bitcoin.
6652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on how to place sports bets on: April 13, 2021, 09:30:26 PM
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thats a suicide if they follow tips from strangers because that tipper can be a lier but its okay to follow tips from the people that you know like in this forum there are pro sport bettors here that give tips  and its not bad to relax and and enjoy by playing a dice game  .
this can loose up the tension that build in you by too much foccusing on how to win in sports betting but nice post op i have increased my learnings especially in the decimal part (odds ) because im a noob in sports betting .
Yes, it is because we do not know who the tipster is. Maybe we can follow the tips from people here who have reputations and try to give us information. But we still need to search for more info because that will not be enough for us to determine the team, especially if we are a noob in sports betting. But the important is we can relax for a while and enjoy playing gambling games. There are many good lessons that we should learn to become wise gambler which knowing about when the situation to gamble.
6653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on how to place sports bets on: April 13, 2021, 03:55:49 PM
The thing is, we choose sports betting because we believe we do have a good chance of winning here, unlike on luck based games which are purely based on luck, here we can use our skills and develop if it if we are not that consistent yet, but it always comes with discipline which is to focus on sports betting alone.
If we can use our skills in analyzing the sports game to find which team has a big chance to win, it will help us win. But most people do not want to do that and use the tip from other people, which they do not know if that person has skills in analyzing the teams. Improving the skills in analyzing the teams will not easy because we need to learn many things, including knowing each team that will play. But yes, if we have discipline learning for many lessons and can focus on what we learn, we can improve the skills to analyze the team that has a chance to win.
6654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers - How do you use your signature campaign earnings? on: April 13, 2021, 03:16:47 PM
yes, with compare 2017, is common that people will get a huge reward for doing bounty. But nowadays the rate of percentage is very low which will disappoint you. But in this time, getting $2,000 for 2 weeks is very close to similar about 2017's payment. So the finding of legit project is needed then automatically payment will be higher which we expect.
This year can be their best time to earn much money from the bounty to use some amount to gamble, although that is not advisable to them. I think with the bull run happen this year, they can save and hold their payment and not use it for gambling instead of selling at a high price. If the price of many coins increases, they can stop gamble for a while and focus on making money by selling their coins such as bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin, dash, or even doge. But that will be their choice to gamble or not.
6655  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there such thing as a “safe strategy”? on: April 13, 2021, 02:20:28 PM
Hodling Bitcoin is your safe strategy, because you mentioned as well that you do not want to full-time trade.
Don't do day trading as well. I had risked mine before and it was rough and stressful time management to do.
That is right. But you should have a target price to sell because holding without having a plan when you can sell your bitcoin will not good. You will not take profit if only holding even if you see your bitcoin's value increase from time to time.

Day trading is only for people who have skills and know when they can enter the market with their analysis. But holding will be the best strategy for people who doubt the time to trade because they do not want to lose their money.
6656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you limit your gambling time? on: April 13, 2021, 01:26:50 PM
This is about how do you make sure that you are gambling in full control. There are many people who are easily brought into gambling beyond fun and that is a problem for them and also for the gambling industry, because it is for them that there are limitations in many countries.

Do you actually...
- Have a weekly budget to play and do not ever go over it?
- Not ever get in debt for gambling?
- Have an allocated time for gambling and never exceed it?
- Gamble only socially with friends of relatives?
- Have someone helping you control your gambling?
Now, I am limit my gambling time and money to use for gambling because I have a bad experience in gambling, and I do not want to get the same thing. I always use limitations before I play gambling. For example, I use $5-$10 to gamble in one day and no matter if the money still in my pocket or not, I can leave the game without regret with the result because I can limit the money and time. I never borrow money from other people because that is too risky for me and I do not know how I can repay the money if I borrow that money.

I can gamble anytime I want and stop gambling as soon as possible. But I do not gamble because of socializing because I think there are other things that I can use to socialize with friends or relatives. Actually, many friends suggest that I control my gambling activity, but I am trying to remember that playing gambling too long can make me a gambling addiction. Without having the power to control ourselves, we can become addicted to gambling, so you need to realize this.
6657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What age bracket is perfect for gambling on: April 13, 2021, 12:34:08 PM
In Malawi, this article[1], says that age 5 and above are considered legal to gamble.
[1] https://www.bestonlinecasino.com/blog/gambling-age-around-the-world.html
We ever discussed it, mate. Trust me, it is a very bad regulation to allow children at age 5 to play gambling. They still don't know what they are playing, they think it is a fun game only. But if it continues, they can be addicted to the game. Finally, they will be gambling addicts at a very young age. This shouldn't be followed by other countries.

Mate, your country got it all wrong here. Gambling age from 5? There’s a saying that goes like this "what you’ll become as an adult is a reflection in your youthful life". There are legal gambling ages and psychologists won’t recommend age 5 as a good gambling age. Sometimes Teenagers don’t always think about long-term consequences, and they sometimes want to do things that put their lives  and wellbeing at risk.
No, I guess that is not wrong because I think in some countries, children caught gamble with their friends from small things with money involved. Yes, that is illegal to that children but that will not for them as they can gamble in a secret place without adult people knows where that place. Teenagers can not think much about the risk of gambling because they think that playing gambling with their friends is one thing that they can have fun with. They can use their time to gather with their friends and start gamble. That is the parent's job always to guard their children and always monitor what their child does.
6658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The fine line between market investment and sports gambling on: April 13, 2021, 11:16:13 AM
If they can use the investment section in the gambling site, they will have a chance to make more money than playing gambling.
Not that making more, investing to a bankroll needs time to make money and it's not that what you think as easy as what you say. It requires time for you to make with that feature.
That is the consequences that they should get from the investment. The waiting time for the investment will not have just in a short time because sometimes, they need to wait for months until they can profit from the investment.

But that will depend on how they will use their money on the gambling site because many people use the money to gamble to search for fun. We can choose what we need to do, and we can also use gambling for fun and use the investment that is available on that site to earn additional profit.
Fun, investment, making money with gambling, yes, all of those things depends on how the gambler will make his money and put it into purpose.
But many gamblers can not earn money from gambling instead only lose their money many times. If they see that, they ought to realize that they can not make money from gambling, so they must leave gambling before it is too late for them.

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In my opinion, there is a significant difference between gambling and investing. 

Gambling is a zero-sum game.  One player wins, the other loses.  Moreover, as a rule, the organizer of the gambling game has a competitive advantage in the game. 

Investing is always a winning strategy.  Investment is the investor's bet on progress.  The modern financial system is inflationary.  In monetary terms, the capitalization of all global companies is constantly growing. 

The price of one individual share may fall, but stock indices are showing constant growth. 

Under these conditions, a patient investor is guaranteed to make a profit.
Indeed. What you are saying is right and I agree with you. The investment can be their way to make money in the future, but only if they can select the right investment by researching the right. Maybe they can lose from the investment, but the value of the investment can increase back in the future, so they can still profit from that. If someone wants to make money from the investment, they must research and select the investment. Otherwise, that will be the same as gambling.
6659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 13, 2021, 10:13:26 AM
It is hard to realize greeds, especially when you can enjoy the game and win for some rounds because our mind will tempt us to play some more rounds. Greeds are what we need to eliminate or control because they can ruin our day in just one or two rounds. Maybe playing with a calm can reduce the tension that comes to us, especially if we win on some rounds.
Oh, do not forget to limit the money you used in gambling, not lose all of the money.
Thank you for being reminded regarding the money we use for gambling, sometimes we don't limit the amount of money that will be used
for gambling. In order not to experience financial problems due to gambling, apart from controlling greed, limiting the amount of money to be
used for gambling should also be done. Because if it is not restricted we can accidentally use the money for our daily needs, and if this is
allowed we will experience financial difficulties. I myself only use 10% of my income to play gambling. So when my capital runs out, I will stop
playing gambling until I get a salary in the following month.
I can say that because in the past when I have 0.003 btc in my account, I do not stop playing gambling instead continue playing the other gambling games. It will not take too long to see that amount is gone as I losing all of 0.003 btc in a short time. Besides that, I have other experience in other coins, which lead to me losing the amount. That is what we must do regarding playing gambling because limiting the money will prevent us from using big money while getting the fun in the gambling games. Using 10% of your income is good, so you do not lose too much money, but you have a chance to win the game, although that is not too big.
6660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which is the most popular game in gambling field ? on: April 13, 2021, 09:29:36 AM
Sports betting is the most popular game in gambling games, but we have another non-physical gambling game that many gamblers use to gamble, such as dice, poker, slots, etc. But there are traditional gambling games which people use in real life, especially in this pandemic because they are boring to stay at their home. I prefer to play dice game as that is the game that I often played in the past and in my free time. Sometimes I only watch the sports but not trying to place a bet.
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