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6661  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Buying BFL debt. $0.10 per dollar owed. on: April 21, 2013, 10:30:28 PM
What a humble man OP, you won't find many of this kind. He'd pay 10 cents of each dollar you are owed, it's a hero of our time.
6662  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER: Erupter Blades. Review, comments, photos, and discussion! on: April 21, 2013, 09:47:32 PM
In this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178051.0
the estimate is that ROI for these devices which sold at 75btc is roughly 2.5 months.

you might want to check that again Wink

You can produce less than 0.6BTC daily with that hash power at today's difficulty. So even if difficulty would stay same you'd need more than 4 months to meet ROI Wink
6663  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER: Erupter Blades. Review, comments, photos, and discussion! on: April 21, 2013, 09:39:40 PM
I'm, pretty sure that auction was clear manipulation to rise Asicminer share price, no sane man would pay 76 btc for 10GH device.

And they run operation spectacularly, shares more than doubled in a day or two.

The amount of manipulation and corruption in bitcoin community these days is staggering.

I would pay if I had. Bid 71.5.

If you check the forum time you will notice that share price increased after auction announcement but before "insane" bids. In fact share price dropped at the end to 1.1 or even 0.9 (guess why)

Don't think I'm insane. Bought shares for 0.8 in the morning and sold for 1.3 the next day. Got "free" 30btc to buy that thing.

Easy money lead to easy spending. People really wanted those devices, don't think it is wise to insult them in this thread.

They had increased but to some 0.8-0.9, I was interested in buying but refused even if I thought they might rise, they're just not worth that amount and I didn't want to be part of that bullshit. They went to 1.6 in auction time.

Shares that give 0.006 btc weekly are just worth more than 0.4-0.5, except with manipulation and hype asicminer share holders using to rise their price. We're 2 months from huge number of asics on the market, AM's network hashrate percentage won't be remotely close to where it is now and yet people were paying 300 weeks dividends worth amount for one share, lol. What a bloody moron someone has to be to bite that.
6664  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: April 21, 2013, 09:29:55 PM
coordinated attacks on bitcoin sites Smiley
6665  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: April 21, 2013, 06:33:25 PM
should we get worried, this looks more serious than ddos
6666  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Question)Next Gen ASIC on: April 21, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
Here's some short term analysis of the curve:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178051.0
That seems to be about what I expected. If you're not planning for at least doubling each month over the coming months then you may be in for a surprise. I'd be really pissed if I were a BFL pre-order holder and didn't get my rig for another few months.

well, if that comes to be true those who ordered chips are going to have hard time to meet a roi anytime soon.
I think most of us who ordered chips are already expecting a doubling each month.

dOUBLING IS OK BUT THAT PREDICTION OVER THERE ON THAT LINK (damn caps lock) expects some 16 times harder difficulty in a time asics made from chips will start working. If that happens, that investing won't meet roi soon if ever.
6667  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICMINER: Erupter Blades. Review, comments, photos, and discussion! on: April 21, 2013, 04:08:00 AM
I'm, pretty sure that auction was clear manipulation to rise Asicminer share price, no sane man would pay 76 btc for 10GH device.

And they run operation spectacularly, shares more than doubled in a day or two.

The amount of manipulation and corruption in bitcoin community these days is staggering.
6668  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Did the mining equation suddenly change with BFL's first "real" 5Gh shipment on: April 21, 2013, 02:19:44 AM

Forget about idea mate, nobody doesn't give a shit about it at this stage. It's all about money now.

Yup, people on here would pimp out their moms for overnight delivery on any asic.

It's shame really... we're all here (or huge, huge majority) for money but it's going too far... I remember reading these forums 2-3 years ago and finding people here as some cool, mystic, revolutionary group but that went to bobbins when bitcoin went to 260$ and asic's hashing power calculations hit the brains Smiley
6669  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Question)Next Gen ASIC on: April 21, 2013, 02:16:37 AM
well, if that comes to be true those who ordered chips are going to have hard time to meet a roi anytime soon.
6670  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Did the mining equation suddenly change with BFL's first "real" 5Gh shipment on: April 21, 2013, 02:10:01 AM
With ASICs in the wild new mining adopters (the rest of the world) will be forced to buy from companies like BLF. This will force other crypto currencies like Litecoin to come into favor since people can still mine that with a regular desktop machine.  Bitcoin was intended to be a non-centralized currency so it seems unreasonable that people will favor it as it becomes more centralized in large mining farms like ASICMiner.

 

Forget about idea mate, nobody doesn't give a shit about it at this stage. It's all about money now.
6671  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Will GPU mining die soon because of ASICs invasion? on: April 21, 2013, 01:57:42 AM
I wrote on some other thread earlier today that I wish ASICs never appeared. I don't mine and won't (unless I could buy and get asic in a week or two, lol) so it does not bother me too much but asics are making bitcoin community to be all that bitcoin community supposedly hate in "real word" one - big fish to become bigger and other to eat a dust from their tables. Greed, greed, greed... greed is everywhere Smiley

Won't even start about scam mark they brought to bitcoin.
6672  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL's Jalapeno exists - I have one in my hand and just uploaded a video on: April 21, 2013, 12:57:15 AM
bloody shame BFL done their job on the way they did, that little thing looks so cute.
6673  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL 20 April 2013 on: April 20, 2013, 11:23:32 PM
BFL are biggest trolls ever, they just don't give a flying one, lol
6674  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Where are the 28nm FPGAs? on: April 20, 2013, 11:18:15 PM

People are idiots or they're pumping asicminer share prices for their own good.

My bet would be on 2nd as asicminer share pumpers are pretty hardworking and religiously devoted group, doubt anyone is idiot to pay that price for hashing power that mines 0.6 btc at this difficulty and as such needs more than 4 months to meet ROI without difficulty rise.
6675  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Question)Next Gen ASIC on: April 20, 2013, 11:02:45 PM
I'd buy asic now only if I could get it in a week or two, everything else is the risk.

Thought about buying chips and paying someone for assembling but it's still some 4 months time, we have no idea where we will be at that time.

I wish asics never appeared, it was much more fair and long run game for bigger group of people. Asics are to bitcoin mining what Walmarts are to small neighborhood stores - game killers.

6676  Economy / Economics / Re: Switzerland Revises 1934 Banking Act To Allow Bail-In Deposit Confiscations on: April 20, 2013, 05:14:59 PM
Switzerland softened their hard laws on bank secret information years ago. It's Luxembourg who took lot of their banking business now.
6677  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to make $10,000 with just $60 on: April 20, 2013, 04:18:32 AM
 Roll Eyes
6678  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: April 20, 2013, 04:16:45 AM
one of the most boring bitcoin nights in last few months... volume is like it's nvc, not btc

We've had days with extremely low volume (a few 10's of 000's) in the last few weeks. The current volume isn't so low at over 200,000. It's probably just a case of burnout, coinciding with the weekend  Smiley

yeah, guess I got used on last 2 weeks drama
6679  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: April 20, 2013, 04:13:00 AM
one of the most boring bitcoin nights in last few months... volume is like it's nvc, not btc

Can't have insanity every day now, can we?

I lost 20$ on last trade, want something to happen to recover that, lol
6680  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: April 20, 2013, 04:07:05 AM
one of the most boring bitcoin nights in last few months... volume is like it's nvc, not btc
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