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Update: 11th of August 2014
1. Batch 1 & 2 shipping:
X1 - not complete.
X3 - not complete.
2. Refunds refused.
3. BA claims up to 8% of X3s shipped.
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Had the EXACT thing happen to me.
For those who didn't read the entire thing he is a seller that had this happen (probably multiple times).
I had 2 units the user kept for 2.5 months and still won the claim that it was broken. Shipped back 2 Avalon 2 55nm 200GH/s FUBAR'ed... They left FULLY secured and hashing.
Ebay basically told us to get fucked in the long run. No matter how much I helped the guy originally with problems that didn't exist with the miners. We dealt with a guy named DJ from Ebay and basically he is just as large of a failure at life as the guy who screwed us.
I read that Avalon customers had a lot of complaints, did you get scammed twice on those? |
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How much ROI would an X3 customer have made by now if he had waited and purchased the S1 when it became available?
What date was the S1 available on and at what price?
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Bitcoin Difficulty: 19,729,645,941
Estimated Next Difficulty: 21,562,099,643 (+9.29%)
Adjust time: After 1560 Blocks, About 10.1 days
Hashrate(?): 165,361,077 GH/s
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The story so far as I understand it is, Jumbley being a group buy customer was in a bind to get his X3. Using his above average social skills and any means necessary he was, after five (5) months able to obtain an X3.
He then sold the X3 himself on ebay for $3633 to himself.
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Hi Captain Blackarrow,
We're sorry, but the cookie monster is unable to accept muffin tops as substitution for actual cookies.
Regards,
The Cookie Monster
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14nm with 1024 cores, pre-order now?
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... so why use the AM chips?
Could it be that if they used the Minion their claim to be a "New" ASIC manufacturer wouldn't fly. Also, if they're using Mr friedcat's ASICs what ASIC are they manufacturing? |
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I keep thinking of ways to ROI with 120 bare ASICs. I reason that with a small quantity of tritium it's possible to build a 13Th/s miner that will run for 20 years with no external power input. The tritium would be contained in a green phosphor orb and the awesome glow would be awe inspiring.
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We had to wait for the chips. We had to wait for the boards. We had to wait for the cases. We had to wait for the power supplies (oh no wait bring your own). We had to wait FOR THE F*CKING LCDs
An LCD on a Bitcoin miner which has a lifespan of 4-6 months if we are lucky. And they delayed it again to put a LCD on it.
Talk about arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
The Titanic was loaded up with rich people and sunk as an insurance scam. http://www.omgfacts.com/Interesting/There-s-a-conspiracy-theory-that-the-Tit/54649 |
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dogie doesn't get to keep the BTC lol
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One ironic reality for me is that I've lost a huge amount of money on Bitcoins without actually involving any real BTC or even the Bitcoin protocol being used (paid in USD). Of course there's the possibility that they've been mining with hardware my money paid for and that there is some real BTC involved...
Is my BTC being used to buy hookers, drugs, sports cars, real estate and tropic island fantasy vacations?
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Hi Marto,
I'd like to know if the Minion board is available as an unpopulated PCB + parts and if so for how much or how many chips would each PCB cost in an exchange?
Thanks.
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Is it possible to order an unpopulated minion PCB + parts and if so for how much?
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TB chip conversion... 60x heatsink+fan, 15x 500W PSUs and 15x controllers (can I connect via USB to a PC instead?).
Best case scenario I'd get 6Th/s that requires an additional $3k investment. That's $8.2k total or about $1370 per Th/s, ROI in 3.5 months.
Wow, in your math even if we give you the chips for free it doesn't worth it. It's nice you get a deal on heatsinks, fans and PSUs but I have to pay full market price for this crap if I get the chips. |
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TB chip conversion... 60x heatsink+fan, 15x 500W PSUs and 15x controllers (can I connect via USB to a PC instead?).
Best case scenario I'd get 6Th/s that requires an additional $3k investment. That's $8.2k total or about $1370 per Th/s, ROI in 3.5 months.
Problem is 7.5kW is too much power draw and I can't raise the $3k. The X3 was suppose to help fill the hole I'd dug for myself. Now I'm free-falling down a bottomless fucking pit.
Waiting till Sep/Oct for a 2Th/s X3 that can't ROI makes me sick. That's if BA doesn't sink before then, you guys got what 3 employees left and only chip sales to keep the bilge pumps going?
How can you guys fuck up this badly, I'm inclined to think this was a criminal scam from the beginning and you're all driving mid-engine sports cars on my dime. I really hope you can prove you're not crooks somehow because not getting my $5.2k miner and losing $12k in revenue is driving me into a murderous fucking rage during the periods I'm not manically depressed.
Did all your engineers jump ship or something, what the fuck happened? The fact you kept feeding us bullshit shipping dates after you got the chips certainly doesn't help make you look any less like crooks.
The claimed SPI and controller issues also fucking stink and make you look like your trying to baffle your customers with bullshit. The only non-crooked answer I can come up with is that you hired some kid fresh out of school who had no clue that the serial lines had to be terminated. And the controller issue I'm guessing was actually an ncurses library related cgminer issue that your clueless student took weeks figure out?
This is a multi-million dollar clusterfuck, if you're not crooked I hope you understand why we're screaming bloody murder and contacting the police and lawyers about this.
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Messing around with your firmware is the best way brick your computing device however, the X1 is already a brick so the point is moot.
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Update: 6th of August 2014
1. Batch 1 & 2 shipping:
X1 - not complete.
X3 - not complete.
2. Refunds refused.
3. After a month of so-called shipping X3 customer #1x says he's still waiting.
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so asking someone to make some pretty renders of possible boxes tells me that you are focusing on the wrong stuff. You make a good and interesting point, though it's not related to the original topic of this thread. Anyway, I agree, the amount of time/effort a company spends on marketing a pre-order product could potentially be used as an indicator of the company's technical capabilities. In this case, I would argue that blackarrow probably already had an established marketing team as part of their company prior to their ASIC announcement. Since they're on payroll, might as well use them. For me personally, I find a company's history to be a better indicator of their merits than anything else. Like a person, you should always bet on a company not changing their habits. That isn't to say that they can't change, but more times than not they will repeat their mistakes. BFL is a prime example. It seems a lot of people forgot that they pulled their same shenanigans back with their original FPGA based product. From what I know of Blackarrow, their customer service has been stellar, but I recall them tripping on a few early delivery schedules with their Icarus clones (IIRC their FPGA supplier fell through). Their habits likely won't change, which is to say that I believe they will deliver (as you seem to agree), but may still run into trouble during their early shipping (as do most companies, to be honest). I'm guessing X-3s are on the same boat as AMT's miners from China. I'm expecting a head-on collision with the BFL ghost ship on it's way to China. |
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Order #1x still hasn't been shipped anything? Can we get an update on this new delay and why less than 10 X3 orders have been filled since July 6th?
Yeasterday you fucked me out of $30 in coins, today you fucked me out of $30 in coins and, tomorrow you'll fuck me out of another $30 in coins.
The delay has cost me over $12,000 in lost revenue so far, ship the fucking miners already!
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