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6701  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Kredit za bitcoin on: May 20, 2020, 07:34:15 PM
Trebala bih gotovinski kredit za kupnju bitcoina i tražim najjeftiniju priliku
Naišla sam na ovaj kalkulator kredita http://www.bank24.hr
Imate li preporuku prema čemu odabrati od ovih 6 banaka, koja je najvažnija stavka?


Nemoj. Zbog pandemije nitko nije siguran da ce zadrzati posao i jos je neizvjesno hoce li svjetska ekonomija pasti u dublju krizu, mozda cak i depresiju. Globalno trziste se moze srusiti, a u tom trenu ni BTC nece biti otporan te se moze dogoditi da cijena padne za 50% dan nakon sto si digla kredit i kupila BTC i oporavak traje godinu dana u najboljem slucaju. A u medjuvremenu izgubis posao, dogodi se novi potres, kaos, svasta nesto i nisi u stanju otplacivati kredit. Tad tek pocinju problemi.

upravo kao sto je receno, u BTC mozes uloziti novac koji ti nije potreban, i mozes ga izgubiti, a nadas se najboljem i long term hodlingu, a nikako pare od kredita, to je put u propast, koji se moze dobro zavrsiti, ali je preveliki rizik da bi uopste pokusavala
6702  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zasto ljudi ne prihvacaju Bitcoin kao "pare" on: May 20, 2020, 09:12:02 AM
Postojeći bankarski sustav dobro funkcionira? Pa, ako je netko vlasnik banke, onda je to istina - postojeći bankarski sustav sasvim dobro funkcionira.

Upravo zbog toga je napravljen Bitcoin. Da se ljudi mogu maknuti od banaka. Naravno da treba proći jako puno vremena da bi se to dogodilo, ali ljudi su i za veliku većinu drugih tehnologija mislili da su nepotrebne u trenutku kad su izmišljene.

Popisujem ovo gore od kolege.

Šta se tiče postojećeg bankarskog sustava i njegovog funkcioniranja imam osjećaj da će ubrzo imati još jedan veliki test uzrokovan ekonomskom krizom kao posljedicom ovih izolacija/zaustavljanja proizvodnje zbog korone.

S druge strane cijelokupna tehnologija kriptovaluta treba dobiti jedan veliki redizajn s velikim naglaskom na jednostavnost korištenja za prosječnog korisnika. Bez toga sigurno nema masovne adopcije.



Cekaj, ti hoces reci da je tebi problem da kupujes kruh sa Breadcoinom, banane sa bananacoinom, wc papir sa toilet paper tokenom, i sve to uz računanje u odnosu na BTC? preposterous

ne, nije problem ako imas aplikaciju koja automatski pretvara breadcoin u bananacoin, i placa za tebe, onda ti je svejedno
6703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: May 19, 2020, 01:39:04 PM
Vote please.
IDENA validation reward and bad flips
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249501

Currently, if you have at least 1 bad flip, then you will not receive absolutely no reward for successful validation.
This is unfair.
Especially considering the fact that the reports on your flip could be subjective, but in fact, your flip is good.

Another point why devs behavior doesn't correspond to the characteristics of the coin.
You are under pressure.
This is unacceptable in a decentralized system with freedom of speech and anonymity.

Stop crying, Idena needs good quality flips to work properly. If you are not able to create good flips you cannot participate and I hope and desire that you are penalized, it has been proven that this is necessary.

The reports have to have consensus, if your flip has been reported by 50% or more it will be labeled as invalid.

I see it fine  Cool

yeah, do agree on this one, it is needed for flips to be good, and people should invest time to learn how to make good flip, for a project to be successful
6704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayor Of Las Vegas wants the whole city open, including casinos and stadiums on: May 19, 2020, 12:13:52 PM
It's basically, Las Vegas, all we know, the center of Casino and Gambling, we don't know how much Las Vegas has lost in terms of their economy when in fact, their main income from taxes comes from casino establishments. There's no doubt that the mayor will pursue to open these business as soon as possible. - It is hard to kind of consider the pandemic, and criticism from people. But what is important are lives of the people. Business could be retrieved and could be revived, Economy does so.

    Their lives depends on their businesses, how to provide food for you and family without money?! I think
the risk they plan to take with opening everything is what they need to do, people should be careful, to wear
masks and glows, and who wish to gamble or go to events  can do that, on their own risk!
   Responsibility is on each of us, we can't forbid people from working, or doing what they wish. I would let
them, I know I will gamble from home like until now!

yeah, we can not forbid life for undefined time, things should open a bit and everybody should be responsible for their health, it is as simple as that
if you do not want to wear mask and gloves, it is up to you, but you should be aware that you risk a lot with that decision and that you can even transfer your illness to your family members, if you want to take that risk, it is up to you
6705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 19, 2020, 12:01:54 PM
Leverkusen deserves the win!
Took a look on the scheduled games in this month, from next Friday to the first June, there is basically 1-2 games every two days at least, impressive  Wink
Best games imo next Saturday are Dortmund/W and Leverkusen/M' but it is scheduled at the same time... Then next Tuesday, Dortmund/Bayern and Leverkusen/W, luckily not at the same time!

yeah, would not bet on it, but expect good match between Leverkusen and M'Gladbach, and if Leverkusen win this one, it will be their candidature for number 3 on the table at the end, Bundesliga was interesting prior to Covid, and now is more interesting since it is the only top league that is playing at the moment, so all the matches will be watched

when looking to first matches, seems that home advantage without audience is not that important
6706  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Ethereum 2.0 – Serenety, Što je i kako radi? on: May 19, 2020, 07:32:55 AM
Dosta razgovora o glup-phoneu Tongue Ajde da se mi malo vratimo on topic.

Naišao sam na friški video gdje čovjek priča o Ethereumu 2.0. Treba reći da je taj lik već prije par mjeseci snimio video o Ethereumu 2.0 gdje priča o čemu se točno radi. Općenito mi se čini da je dosta uvjeren u rast cijene, ali linkove sam stavio za one koji još nisu sigurni o čemu se uopće radi u Ethereumu 2.0.

ukoliko sve bude kako treba, ETH bi trebao rasti, samo je pitanje da li ce sve sa ETH2.0 biti kako treba, i zato je rizik ulaganja dosta veliki, ali kad se pogleda moguca nagrada, cini se da je vredno rizika, u domenu novca koji se moze izgubiti, nikako ne ulagati vise

ja sam jos ranije napravio neki poll ovde na forumu, gde se glasalo kad bi ETH mogao na top spot, ili nece nikad, i 75% ljudi je videlo ETH na prvom mestu, za godinu, dve, deset, ali nekad u buducnosti na prvom mestu, iznad BTC

A gle... Ako Ethereum stvarno uspije napraviti što su zamislili (decentralizirano superračunalo) i da sve to radi kako treba i kako je zamišljeno, mislim da to stvarno nije nemoguće. Naravno, iz ove perspektive to možda izgleda nemoguće jer je Bitcoin kralj, ali i luđe stvari su se događale. Jedino što može ugroziti Ethereum je neupjelo pokretanje verzije 2.0 i dolazak konkurencije koja je tu, ali za sad ipak još daaaleko.

evo, prvi fork na testnet mrezi
https://cryptonews.net/en/323077/

zajednica jos uvek ne moze da se slozi da li je to dobra vest
6707  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: May 19, 2020, 07:27:46 AM
Čestitke @Trofo, svaka čast i definitivno zasluženo!

Username: Trofo
Post Count: 3656
BTC Address (must be SegWit): bc1qmq3eg89z6crwr00j6psfym9uau2zx8xn2q5ll5

Accepted, send me a PM when you change your signature. Probably another acceptance in the next few days (though I'm not 100% decided yet).

cestitke, odlicna vest za tebe, i zasluzeno u najboljoj kampanji na forumu
6708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 18, 2020, 08:29:54 PM
Bremen is just totally lost defensively and not only in this match, but the whole season. It has often been an issue in the past, but they could always compensate by scoring a lot of goals themselves (and thus always having very entertaining matches Grin ). This season they are not able to get anything going offensively to compensate - only Düsseldorf scored fewer goals - and thus they could very well find themselves in 2. Bundesliga next year.

Today they are missing Klaasen dearly, who is maybe the only player to organize things properly in midfield. According to the stats, Leverkusen has 58% posession, but feels more like 80% tbh, because Leverkusen is clearly dominating the game. That being said, I am still not that sure about the 3 points for them today Wink
Leverkusen 2-1 Bremen, oops just scored while writing 3-1 in the 61 minutes. 3 goals in this game were scored in 5 minutes 28->33'. Bremen seems lost!

I saw the first half of the match and both goals conceded by Werder Bremen can be attributed to extremely poor defending, I so much doubt they'd be able to avoid relegation if such performance should continue.

Bayer Leverkusen indeed were the better side from the get go and the 1.8+ odds they're given seemed pretty well like a gift to those back them, it's just about 15 minutes left and It's a deserved 3 point secured for Leverkusen!

yeah, Leverkusen is now two points behind M'Gladbach and one behind Leipzig, for them battle for CL is just started, and seems that they will have enough potential to finish it successfully
6709  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zasto ljudi ne prihvacaju Bitcoin kao "pare" on: May 18, 2020, 08:23:51 PM
Uzmi u obzir i širu sliku.
Da ja sad tebi kažem da uzimaš recimo plasticne zetone kao novac, i da svaki vrijedi 10 eura, dal bi prihvatio?
Jasno da ne. Pa cak i da si negdje cuo i citao da se to radi vani i na internetu, tesko bi ti bilo to prihvatit

stvar je poverenja u onoga ko izdaje odredjenu valutu, tako je i pocelo, kraljevi stampali svako svoju sliku na zlatniku, pa kad nema dovoljno, onda stavis malo srebra, pa malo olova, pa malo kamena, to ti je prakticna slika danasnje inflacije, ranije je sve bilo podrzano zlatnim standardom, a sad Amerika stampa dolare ko toalet papir
ali sa druge strane, svi veruju da ce Americka ekonomija to vratiti, i igranka se nastavlja, dok se ne slomi

BTC ima cvrstu fiskalnu politiku, ali se i ona moze promeniti u slucaju globalnog konzenzusa, koji nije u interesu ucesnicima, pa je malo verovatan, ali izmedju malo verovatno i nemoguce je ogromna razlika (licno ne verujem u to, ali uvek valja razmisljati o svim opcijama)
6710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 18, 2020, 02:16:36 PM
What are your bets for the todays Werder Bremen - Bayer 04 Leverkusen game?

Over 2,5 seems like a good bet.
It is a huge game for Bayer, with Leipzig drawing they can close the gap to CL qualification to a single point with a win today.

Since Werder needs points to get out of relegation zone, it means both teams need to start attacking from the beginning. Mainz is a huge 9 points ahead and this might be one of the last chances for Werder to keep hopes of staying in the league.

it is a huge game for Leverkusen, and i see them on the third spot, prior to M'Gladbach and Leipzig, they had a good run until corona, but now they have to confirm it and get the CL qualification, will be interesting tonight, Werder was out of form, far in relegation zone, pity for them, which are founder team of Bundesliga in 1963 and all time member since 1981 (they had just one season in 2.Bundesliga 1980-1981)

also, it is good to note that Werder match with M'Gladbach in 1971 was historic, since they broke the wooden post, while trying to score, which lead to the fact that we now have aluminium post on Stadiums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW18aTfZ8uA

a bit of history behind great club from Bremen
6711  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Ethereum 2.0 – Serenety, Što je i kako radi? on: May 18, 2020, 01:08:49 PM
Dosta razgovora o glup-phoneu Tongue Ajde da se mi malo vratimo on topic.

Naišao sam na friški video gdje čovjek priča o Ethereumu 2.0. Treba reći da je taj lik već prije par mjeseci snimio video o Ethereumu 2.0 gdje priča o čemu se točno radi. Općenito mi se čini da je dosta uvjeren u rast cijene, ali linkove sam stavio za one koji još nisu sigurni o čemu se uopće radi u Ethereumu 2.0.

ukoliko sve bude kako treba, ETH bi trebao rasti, samo je pitanje da li ce sve sa ETH2.0 biti kako treba, i zato je rizik ulaganja dosta veliki, ali kad se pogleda moguca nagrada, cini se da je vredno rizika, u domenu novca koji se moze izgubiti, nikako ne ulagati vise

ja sam jos ranije napravio neki poll ovde na forumu, gde se glasalo kad bi ETH mogao na top spot, ili nece nikad, i 75% ljudi je videlo ETH na prvom mestu, za godinu, dve, deset, ali nekad u buducnosti na prvom mestu, iznad BTC
6712  Economy / Services / Re: [Open] ▄■▀■▄ 🌟Bitvest.io🌟 - Plinko Sign Camp (Member-Hero Accepted)(New2) on: May 18, 2020, 12:42:49 PM
Update: I'm sorry to inform you that due to the current community outreach organized by @Royse777 and @Lauda (Details can be seen here). I was very busy thorough the whole day distributing basic food items to some families in my community therefore I couldn't review your post but hopefully that'll be done before tommorow ends.

Thanks for understand.
I'm fine with this...
the humanitarian task is more important, I really hope that you take care of your health too, pay attention to your diet and enough rest so that you can continue to distribute food to targeted citizens.  a hug for you Kiss

it is a good reason for delay, hope that you had a successful distribution, did not about it, you can share here next time when you have something similar, so that we can take part in it, this is an unexpected crisis
6713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: May 17, 2020, 08:23:16 PM
Today is Idena validation day.
Be ready with updated and synced node.

i past two epoch, and have 12 from 12 flips, but did not get invitation that i could send to other people, and still i am a newbie, do you know when one gets verified, since there is an info in miner, you get verified when have 12 flips solved?
6714  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is Bitcointalk.org on: May 17, 2020, 08:15:17 PM

Maybe someone who is in signature campaign is struggling to reach post quota. So, he create alt, ask silly question and then he can reply using his main account(s). Profit. Maybe it's not this case in this topic but I'm pretty sure that some members are doing it.

is this regular? i can not believe that someone is doing that, but if that is the thing, it should be criticized and marked with negative trust, since it is some kind of scam, when you create fog and try to discuss with themselves
6715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 17, 2020, 07:28:22 PM
match by match, and Bavarian giant will take the title this season, seems that much in Dortmund could be decision maker, especially if Bayern win that match, then it is hard to expect that Dortmund can be back in the battle, will see, lets see Leverkusen tomorrow
6716  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: May 17, 2020, 07:21:40 PM
ne razumijem se u tehniku blockchaina, al eth transakcije su preskupe nekad. 1.5$ da exportuješ igrača na blockchain je preskupo.

da, izgleda da je implementirano pravilo gola u gostima, sto je bolje od penala, gde je bila prakticno lutrija
inace, bas su transakcije otisle gore, vidim da je trenutno neki MMM scam aktivan sa velikim brojem transakcija, mada je USDT i dalje prvi
6717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dump or HODL these coins? on: May 17, 2020, 10:48:15 AM
I been holding these coins for a few years:

- Civic
- Golem
- Siacoin
- Augur
- Tron (recently added to portfolio, will hodl obviously)


these are part of my portfolio as well, and i presume that, if ever, altcoin season should pick them up, since there is on-going development on all these projects, must admit that do not expect nothing spectacular from them, but should go up, and i would not think about it if mass adoption came along, then they could deliver some great results, but always think for yourself
6718  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: May 17, 2020, 10:44:04 AM
E sad, implementacija toga je meni totalna nepoznanica jer nisam toliko "u tome" da bi znao znači li to nekakve dodatne troškove (npr. plaćanje gasa za odigravanje tekme kako bi se rezultat upisao u blockchain).

U svakom slučaju znači dodatne troškove ali bi se vjerojatno dalo napraviti da se hrpa utakmica igra u isto vrijeme i onda da se svi ti rezultati upišu pod jednom transakcijom. Ta transakcija bi bila dosta skuplja od one za jednu utakmicu ali opet i puno jeftinija nego da se plati za svaku utakmicu posebna transakcija.

Da, ali problem je što su transakcije na Ethereum mreži (opet) skupe. Neki dan sam platio oko $1.5 za transakciju claimanja SNX tokena koji vrijede ispod $1. Pa ti vidi... Znam da je to interakcija s pametnim ugovorom ali ipak je skupo. A sve zbog Tethera na Ethereum mreži.

mozda bi mogli da se prebace sa ETH mreze na neku drugu, mada vidim da je sada i Sorare presao sam Loom-a na ETH, pa pretpostavljam da je tesko naci dobar blockchain za igricu ovakvog tipa, gde bi se svaki rezultat upisivao na blockchain

definitivno bi se ovo moralo resiti pre neke popularizacije igrice, ako ikada dodjemo u to stanje
6719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 17, 2020, 10:37:49 AM
Bayern Munich has to win there game today for sure and my bet is on them.
Guess the match from Leipzig yesterday will be the reason that they dont have any chance for the title in the end.
The other teams Dortmund and Gladbach are still in the race and i guess Bayern will win there match today.
Sadly i cant watch it today again  Tongue


Yeah they should IMO, season is almost about to end and Dortmund and Gladbach are not to far. Winning will give them 4 point advantage over Dortmund on the table so Bayern will target to keep that gap throughout as much as possible. I am really sad about Leipzig after watching how they started the season and how they are getting dragged down recently. Now they have lost their position and are on 4th Sad.

yeah, Bayern should win today, Union is a good team, but they tend to play decisive at home, either win or lose, just one draw, so it is expected that Bayern will win this, but would not bet on that one, maybe over 2.5 goals, but would not bet on that one as well, will skip today matches
6720  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: May 17, 2020, 09:41:53 AM
https://footbattle.io/tourney/470601

da li vam se desilo do sada da zavrsite kup, izbaci da je ekipa prosla dalje na penale (mada je stajalo 0:0 u zagradi kao rezultat penala), i onda u nekom momentu (par sati kasnije) se to promeni, i druga ekipa prodje dalje?
par JBrun - Calcutta city se desilo upravo to, prvo je prosao JBrun, a sada stoji da je prosla Calcutta, i ukupan rezultat je ostao 4:4, bez rezultata penala u zagradi, ne znam da li bi to moglo negde da se proveri zasto je izmenjeno
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