Can we please hear from LabRat regarding getting listed on havelock??
...Maybe part of the reason LR doesn't think an exchange is a priority is the lack of bids/asks/price movement? ...
And maybe he's afraid of ending up in Erik Voorhees' / Ken Slaughter's shoes (selling unregistered securities). Just a thought  |
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Well this is an interesting statement: "Mining pools, such as the heavily funded super-secret 21E6 in San Francisco, are apparently going long on bitcoin by mining as many bitcoins as they can, making the bet that its value will exceed mining costs. 21E6 has raised at least $5 million in venture funding." Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101711220... Newsflash: Bitcoin Mining Company Expects To Make Money, Not Lose It! Wouldn't it be strange if a company raising funds told the press it expects to lose money? *Tilde test fails: "Mining pools ... are apparently going short on bitcoin by mining as few bitcoins as they can, making the bet that its value will not exceed mining costs." |
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Lol, just stop. You bought some crack from a skeezy finance crack dealer, got burned, and now you run to the cops. This is exactly the sort of embarrassment Bitcoin doesn't need, exactly the thing I try to prevent by asking you to stop sending coin to every scammer who promises you the world and a ring on your finger.
Really, stop.
Stop embarrassing yourself and Bitcoin by association. Pool's closed. Everybody go home.
Can't see why you are bothered. We are going to go ahead. Thanks for the advice but again I don't see why you would bother trying to put us off. There is nothing embarrassing to Bitcoin here it's will be good for Bitcoin if people are warned about these scams. What would be bad is more and more and more of these scams being allowed to happen until one day the Press realise Bitcoin is infested with criminals. We should be cutting this cancer out of Bitcoin startups everywhere it occurs. It's like this, Stuartuk: You'll rage, plan, sperge, but actually pay for a lawyer and litigate? Dollars to donuts says nah. And yes, you are a huge embarrassment to Bitcoin. These preposterously obvious scams is what the media picks up on. You are the conned goofball who gets associated with our new revolutionary money, the one that Joe Sixpack points fingers and laughs at. @Technologov: Yes he has. They are HashFast boards. Please read related threads before ordering. |
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Lol, not sure what my political views have to do with this embarrassment. I didn't buy unregistered shares of a Belize-registered company through an unlicenced Hong Kong Panamanian exchange. I didn't start quoting the same draconian US business regulations i tried to avoid by investing in this failscam. And I am not running to the Nanny State to intervene on my behalf now that things went (predictably) awry. And not even *your own* nanny-state  Why US, Stuartuk? Why not try Panama or Belize? |
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You may not like living in a regulated society but when you are in trouble and you need them...
I have never voiced my opinions on life in a regulated society, it's you--Ken's suckers who rage about oppressive government regulations and unwanted intervention. You chose to leave the suffocating safety of laws, and strike out into the Wild West of unregulated Bitcoin. It started raining, you got hungry, you missed your vidya, so you immediately run back to the Nanny State. And you wonder why people don't take you seriously |
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@kokoarm; drawingthesun: ...
You are going to interact with the US courts? Crawl on your belly to those statist jackbooted gubmint oppressors? What happened to the intrepid money revolutionary we knew and loved so well, drawingthesun?
*Seriously, though, if Bitcointalk history teaches us anything, it is that everything is forgotten within a couple of weeks and no one ever does anything. The reason these scams work so well is most of the marks are small-time and weary of teh law themselves. Not people likely to even admit they've been had, forget lawyering up.
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@tempestb: Why did you delete your post?
Edit: Anyhow, not going to debate law on the interweb, but your scheme has all the sophistication of Ken Slaughter's
"Active Mining Corporation (AMC) is a Belize International Business Company DBA Active Mining Cooperative and is a wholly owned subsidiary of Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) a Delaware Corporation." and
"AMC is a virtual identity totally owned by the Active Mining Corporation (Belize) that represents both itself and its profits."
Just stop. Wordplay and offshore shells are like catnip/chew toy to to baby feds--they get to cut their teeth on hapless amateurs before graduating to real bznz.
And as I said, I have no problem with what Branny is doing, hope everything works out for everyone.
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Branny is an operative of the Hong Kong holding company. He isn't the one you bought shares from or whatever. It's a different thing. The company in Hong Kong is allowed to offer shares in their country this way.
Note, that the SEC understands this as the company that is dealing directly with the payouts. If Branny sends income to the Hong Kong holding company and they distribute to the share holders, then he is just their operative and this works fine. If, however, Branny is the one distributing payouts than regardless of the Hong Kong company ownership he would fall into the legal quagmire that Ken found himself in with his company being registered in Belize.
They follow the money. Where the money is being distributed is where the investment lives.
What an unusual and creative defense! You've found the dreaded loophole the feds haven't considered, and now they's totally stumped. Boy howdy! Assuming that what you propose is actually true, Branny is a US citizen operating from the US soil, facilitating the sale of unregistered securities (through an unlicensed Panamanian exchange) to US persons. So yeah, the SEC has both jurisdiction and ready access to Branny. Being an agent of the mysterious Hong Cong company is neither here nor there. 10/10 will pwn. Nothing against Branny or what he's doing here, but you should restrict your amateur lawyering to your own back yard. ty |
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BS man. HF is far from having the same track records than FC/AM. they failed at every step they took since their inception, botching 28nm chips like the fools they are. AM didnt.
Not sure how technical competence relates to effective PR, but K. |
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@gjpminingco: Let's be clear, Kenneth Slaughter is a serial scammer, regardless of how many people he has answering his phone. His previous companies all ended up much like Active Mining (currently trading @0.00000512, ~0.2% of the original .0025 issue price). There are multiple scam threads detailing Ken's cons, one on this very page, here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504424.0He also finally famous, about a dozen articles on the web about him gettin' V& by MSD. |
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Can you read?? The May 27th div date was a miscommunication from a board member to the thread. He later corrected it by posting part of the board meeting. FC never set a div date and the aggressive dividends were mentioned by another board member. FC just proposed a split.
... It wasn't "miscommunication from a board member." The reason information is issued through quasi-official channels is to allow deniability. inb4 "tinfoil hat," HashFast used Cypherdoc to much the same effect--he would deliver some good news, it would fail to materialize, and HashFast Amy would come on to say Cypher wasn't authorized to make his claim/misunderstood. Cypherdoc would apologize. Worked like a charm. yea right because hashfast is comparable to AM. they have millions of working chips and payed out millions in weekly divs for more than half a year. oh and cypherdoc has the same reputation than FC.  seriously go take a break, its summer. enjoy it. When crumbs questioned the trustworthiness of HashFast and Cypherdoc, he got similar responses. And you got the analogy confused, Cyperdoc = teh confused board member. ~Enjoy your tradingz. |
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^IntelliHash(TM) = downclocking? An app that adjust clock/voltage ~every month a couple of times during the effective lifespan of a chip as difficulty increases? Revolutionary stuff, would certainly save a few keystrokes a year, but will it work  |
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I am certain Ken has made hundreds of thousands through salary or even millions from our money.
Does anyone know the original IPO fund addresses? We need to try tagging all outputs....
To what end? You realize the shares are selling substantially lower than the nickel/share Ken is allegedly obligated to pay out? That's because folks understand they won't be seeing any refunds. So what would knowing that Ken sent me, let's say, 50BTC do for you, other than make you feel more frustrated? If we can find outputs that are likely his hidden income addresses, we might be able to persuade the courts (if any action happens) that Ken is hiding money. Then he can either obey a potential order to release the funds go to jail. You are going to interact with the US courts? Crawl on your belly to those statist jackbooted gubmint oppressors? What happened to the intrepid money revolutionary we knew and loved so well, drawingthesun? *Seriously, though, if Bitcointalk history teaches us anything, it is that everything is forgotten within a couple of weeks and no one ever does anything. The reason these scams work so well is most of the marks are small-time and weary of teh law themselves. Not people likely to even admit they've been had, forget lawyering up. |
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I am certain Ken has made hundreds of thousands through salary or even millions from our money.
Does anyone know the original IPO fund addresses? We need to try tagging all outputs....
To what end? You realize the shares are selling substantially lower than the nickel/share Ken is allegedly obligated to pay out? That's because folks understand they won't be seeing any refunds. So what would knowing that Ken sent me, let's say, 50BTC do for you, other than make you feel more frustrated? |
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Can you read?? The May 27th div date was a miscommunication from a board member to the thread. He later corrected it by posting part of the board meeting. FC never set a div date and the aggressive dividends were mentioned by another board member. FC just proposed a split.
... It wasn't "miscommunication from a board member." The reason information is issued through quasi-official channels is to allow deniability. inb4 "tinfoil hat," HashFast used Cypherdoc to much the same effect--he would deliver some good news, it would fail to materialize, and HashFast Amy would come on to say Cypher wasn't authorized to make his claim/misunderstood. Cypherdoc would apologize. Worked like a charm. |
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... Remember, IANAL either, so my interpretations of the law could be wrong, too.
... No shit? Would'a fooled me. ...
Lurk moar.
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@karol: Some of the folks who bought @ 0.095 diversified their portfolios with other blue chip holdings, like scratch tickets and interest in Panamanian gold mines; some were institutionalized, and the rest simply wandered off |
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The funny thing is that I've already received 50% of my initial btc investment back in dividends and the share price is almost 2x what I initially paid. Yeah.. real bad investment. /sarcasm
Dear dhenson! If you have invested a dollar in a scratch ticket, scratched it, and won two dollars, do not assume that you have discovered a surefire way to double your money. Don't extrapolate future scratch ticket winnings from your two-dollar win. Don't make purchase and scratching of scratch tickets your business plan. Don't assume that PETA Mad Millions is better than other scratch tickets just because your winning ticket happened to be PETA Mad Millions. Finally, don't assume you won two dollars before you cash out. "You only lose if you sell" has a corollary: You only win when you sell. |
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jimmothy, is there a losing stock you haven't invested in?
How about sharing your portfolio with the other kids, so we could know what to avoid?
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@usagi: WTF have you exposed? As far as I know, he is running BDD like clockwork. BDD is not even mentioned in your post.
Take personal slights and other pulp drama to off-topic or scam accusations. This, Sir, is Securities!
We's got standards here  edit: Nvrmnd, usagi is insane. |
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