Wish i was a part of this thread early long before the boom..
I would have been happy realizing that i am also a new wealthy elite....
Quoted for future fun, btc@566$ 3 days later, and we just saw the price crash from $683 to $640 and it's still 13% higher than after cuddaloreappu missed the boom... |
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oh, and double or nothin?
I never intended to bet that much. I just realised I had to put some kind of a cap on things, and picked 50 BTC pretty much at random. I didn't expect anyone to go that high. I don't think it looks good to JD investors to have me looking like an out-of-control gambler. I imagine it is concerning for them. So I'm going to have to pass, and keep my gambling in check. |
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Each week I'll quote the previous week's chart, and post the new one. That way you can follow the chain of links back through time. Here's this week's:  We were on schedule to keep 1% of the weekly wagered amount until: 11:28:15 *** rhiann (587523) [#1221109150] bet 0.8 BTC at 3.6% and won 21.2 BTC *** |
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I actually use a reverse-martigale system when I bet in vegas on the craps table
We saw a good example of reverse martingale working on JD yesterday: Martingale loses: 2014-06-01 08:10:58 *** angel (781321) [#1220009235] bet 0.032 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** 2014-06-01 08:10:59 *** angel (781321) [#1220009276] bet 0.064 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** 2014-06-01 08:11:00 *** angel (781321) [#1220009323] bet 0.128 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** 2014-06-01 08:11:02 *** angel (781321) [#1220009367] bet 0.256 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** 2014-06-01 08:11:03 *** angel (781321) [#1220009413] bet 0.512 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** 2014-06-01 08:11:04 *** angel (781321) [#1220009463] bet 1.024 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** 2014-06-01 08:11:06 *** angel (781321) [#1220009500] bet 2.048 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** 2014-06-01 08:11:07 *** angel (781321) [#1220009560] bet 4.096 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** 2014-06-01 08:11:10 *** angel (781321) [#1220009649] bet 3.7319836 BTC at 49.5% and lost *** Reverse martingale wins: 2014-06-01 08:24:11 *** angel (781321) [#1220035199] bet 0.91221859 BTC at 49.5% and won 0.91221859 BTC *** 2014-06-01 08:24:13 *** angel (781321) [#1220035298] bet 0.91221859 BTC at 49.5% and won 0.91221859 BTC *** 2014-06-01 08:24:46 *** angel (781321) [#1220036343] bet 2.73666192 BTC at 49.5% and won 2.73666192 BTC *** 2014-06-01 08:25:54 *** angel (781321) [#1220038473] bet 2.73931514 BTC at 49.5% and won 2.73931514 BTC *** 2014-06-01 08:26:38 chat: <angel> ok 2014-06-01 08:26:50 chat: <angel> go big or go home 2014-06-01 08:26:55 chat: <angel>  2014-06-01 08:27:18 *** angel (781321) [#1220041208] bet 4.1089753 BTC at 49.5% and won 4.10897530 BTC *** 2014-06-01 08:27:25 chat: <angel> DONE 2014-06-01 08:27:37 chat: <angel> #degenlife |
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Did he take in to account that the bets where spread over who knows how many accounts? Speaking of that... how many different accounts had made a 49.5% bet? Jw
Oh, and only 22,807 different accounts made bets at 49.5%.
I think that since the number of bets is massive compared to the number of accounts, we can assume it's all just one account without much loss of accuracy. |
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So I contacted a mathematician guy to ask for help in calculating my chance of winning the bet I made here recently. He pointed me at this page, and in particular this part of it:  But I have no idea how to evaluate that for the bet I made. He concluded that I was very likely to win the bet, but didn't show his working. Is there anyone who can explain how to use the above formula to calculate the odds of seeing at least a 28-streak of losing bets in a sequence of 357,937,388 bets at 49.5%? |
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175,833,708 had positive profit
179,380,878 had negative profit
2,722,802 had zero profit (and so I can't immediately tell if they won or lost, being 0 BTC bets)
>>> 175833708 * 100.00 / (175833708 + 179380878) = 49.5007
49.5007% of the non-zero bets at 49.5% won!
Wow , that seems really accurate to the odds. Mathematically , what would the average error % of the odds be ? That seems too close to the given odds to be true. The law of large numbers says that the more bets we have, the closer the actual percentage win rate should get to the expected percentage win rate. We've had over 300 million bets at 49.5% so it's not surprising that it's close. Of the 355214586 non-zero bets at 49.5%, we would expect to see 175831220.07 wins and 179383365.93 losses, but we saw 175833708 wins, which is 2487.93 too many. So in a sense we're not close to expectation - we saw over 2 thousand too many wins. But in another sense we're very close - because that's only 0.0007% too many. As time goes on, we don't expect that 2487 number to get any smaller. We just expect the total number of bets to get bigger, which causes the 2487 number to become a smaller percentage of the total. I know that doesn't answer your question, but that's because I don't know the answer. A cheap answer would be "the average would be 0% error, because all the positive errors cancel out all the negative errors". But you're probably asking for the average of the absolute value of the error, which I don't know how to calculate. |
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so martingale is a fail  A few JD players have done incredibly well using martingale betting. Most who try it end up losing though. So yes. |
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Very interesting bet. Would it be considered cheating to ask exactly how many of those were 49.5%?  Not at all!  357,937,388 were at 49.5% Of those: 175,833,708 had positive profit 179,380,878 had negative profit 2,722,802 had zero profit (and so I can't immediately tell if they won or lost, being 0 BTC bets) >>> 175833708 * 100.00 / (175833708 + 179380878) = 49.5007 49.5007% of the non-zero bets at 49.5% won! Oh, and only 22,807 different accounts made bets at 49.5%. |
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[...] It closely relates to that "was there 28x 49.5% unlucky rounds in row" bet you have started in another thread. (My personal guess is it already happend more than once  ) That's what I like about your just-dice - that user's are able to take such risks and take "share" of house. do you have a link to that thread? He's talking about this. awesome! waiting to see the results of this bet. Wait no longer... |
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Is there an application that people will get an E-mail notification when the site's profit down to a certain point which use could set ?
I provide a simple JSON page at /api/info which could be used by a third party to offer such a service. |
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Along with BIP32 wallet so that the change won't be messed up.
There's never any change. The cold wallet address has lots of 500 btc outputs which I send as whole units. |
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But since only 3 people played and they all have JD accounts, I'll just pay their winnings directly to their JD accounts. 3, not 4? I know my wager is pretty worthless, but seems like somebody is missing (based on the blockchain info): (568076) <ford> 1.0000000
(forum) <f3tus> 0.0019001
(484707) <H.dandiilion> 47.9999980
(1) <dooglus> 0.9981019
The 4th was me, just wanting to put an end to it. I couldn't bear to wait a week before checking the result. |
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Holy fu*k! I'd be without a house and liver right now! I'm glad I only bet 0.002, lol!
We can go down in history for making a 30k bet on whether or not a losing streak of 28 happened, which is kinda cool. Not really, though, lol.
Also to the guy that lost 32 times... You'd have more chance getting struck by lightening 10 times in a row.
Interesting that there are 5 winning streaks of 27 or longer but only 2 losing streaks that long. At 49.5% you would expect more long losing streaks then winning ones. |
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i bet there is one 31 bet losing streak
... you would have either won or lost depending on whether you mean "exactly 31" or "at least 31". There's a 32! |
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And now my script is checking for the longest streak. Then this happened: 10:30:49 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> Dandiilion you want to do insured $5000 with a $3000 kick back on a win?
10:32:13 (484707) <H.dandiilion> BAC that sounds good to me . im going out now, ill PM you my email so we can coordinate this later?
10:32:20 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> Sounds good
10:32:39 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> ya I'm going to enjoy my day and try nto to think about it too, but I really don't think there has been a 28 on 1 user
so I'll wait and give them a chance to work out their insurance deal before announcing the result. Well, it sounds like they worked it out: 13:58:56 (484707) <H.dandiilion> deb so does doog know that BAC and i settled on the insurance policy?
13:59:25 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> He doesn't. if yo could forward that email on to him and sign it so he know it came from you that'd be clutch
13:59:25 (2) <@Deb> i am not sure dandi, he's out by the fire
13:59:35 (2) <@Deb> i'll be heading out after i shower so i'll let him know and bring him a ceaser
13:59:39 (484707) <H.dandiilion> ok thanks
13:59:41 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> I just sent the email with the basic outline
13:59:51 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> Yeee ha man fuck! Start to a interesting week lol
13:59:53 (10282) <@dooglus> im here
14:01:16 (10282) <@dooglus> what's the insurance deal?
14:01:30 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> So the insurance deal is that... (typing)
14:02:27 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> I am insuring dandiilions bet for $5000 USD which will be wired to him if there is a 28+ streak, but if it wins $3000 usd @ bitstamp is payable to me.
14:03:12 (484707) <H.dandiilion> yep, we spoke it out on the phone and via email and both agreed to it
14:04:29 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> We are gambling a 28 streak + hadn't happened within the first 1.2 billion bets @ 49.5% only
14:04:42 (10282) <@dooglus> bay, you bet 5k to win 3k? would have been better to bet direct against me, no?
14:05:56 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> I insured $5k to earn $3k the money is tied up in the equity of my car. Which I wouldn't want to be my car equity against you + the bitcoin market Here's a list of the 100 longest winning streaks at 49.5%, where the profit was positive (not zero). Each line is the streak length, and the userid of the streaker: $ for i in *; do echo $(uniq -c $i | grep W | sort -rn | head -1) $i | grep W; done | sort -n | tail -100
20 W 282697
20 W 294339
20 W 300073
20 W 302505
20 W 302833
20 W 310289
20 W 3227
20 W 32317
20 W 362443
20 W 370042
20 W 379321
20 W 469633
20 W 470587
20 W 4798
20 W 508299
20 W 519365
20 W 526784
20 W 530221
20 W 533265
20 W 549679
20 W 549683
20 W 605697
20 W 727506
20 W 739032
20 W 765065
20 W 77084
20 W 78414
20 W 79646
20 W 80741
20 W 92222
21 W 111638
21 W 123329
21 W 125576
21 W 158
21 W 1738
21 W 19996
21 W 204176
21 W 222535
21 W 225080
21 W 239069
21 W 317062
21 W 326879
21 W 33399
21 W 369108
21 W 385412
21 W 410181
21 W 452419
21 W 515376
21 W 519371
21 W 526717
21 W 526743
21 W 526745
21 W 526782
21 W 555686
21 W 634019
21 W 654328
21 W 662180
21 W 78225
21 W 83400
22 W 103960
22 W 152350
22 W 161766
22 W 171573
22 W 180961
22 W 182523
22 W 200838
22 W 20448
22 W 249090
22 W 256069
22 W 294213
22 W 304388
22 W 378211
22 W 388877
22 W 526751
22 W 599043
22 W 73985
22 W 87229
23 W 134021
23 W 186790
23 W 206005
23 W 260630
23 W 323674
23 W 526758
23 W 549673
23 W 655972
23 W 700437
24 W 103208
24 W 187574
24 W 235173
24 W 302726
24 W 599518
25 W 3413
26 W 278807
26 W 3922
26 W 78612
27 W 139322
27 W 192914
27 W 225202
27 W 339455
30 W 372839 So four 27's and a 30. Here's a list of the bets in the winning 30-streak. The player was martingaling, so won 30 tiny amounts: betid stake nonce uid profit
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473313691 160 495556 372839 -160
1 473313754 320 495557 372839 320
2 473313823 160 495558 372839 160
3 473313885 160 495559 372839 160
4 473313950 160 495560 372839 160
5 473314009 160 495561 372839 160
6 473314075 160 495562 372839 160
7 473314135 160 495563 372839 160
8 473314188 160 495564 372839 160
9 473314257 160 495565 372839 160
10 473314324 160 495566 372839 160
11 473314388 160 495567 372839 160
12 473314491 160 495568 372839 160
13 473314528 160 495569 372839 160
14 473314586 160 495570 372839 160
15 473314651 160 495571 372839 160
16 473314717 160 495572 372839 160
17 473314772 160 495573 372839 160
18 473314845 160 495574 372839 160
19 473314920 160 495575 372839 160
20 473314976 160 495576 372839 160
21 473315049 160 495577 372839 160
22 473315169 160 495578 372839 160
23 473315209 160 495579 372839 160
24 473315266 160 495580 372839 160
25 473315338 160 495581 372839 160
26 473315406 160 495582 372839 160
27 473315472 160 495583 372839 160
28 473315534 160 495584 372839 160
29 473315626 160 495585 372839 160
30 473315681 160 495586 372839 160
473315741 160 495587 372839 -160 And here's a list of the 100 longest losing streaks at 49.5% where each bet has a non-zero profit: $ for i in *; do echo $(uniq -c $i | grep L | sort -rn | head -1) $i | grep L; done | sort -n | tail -100
21 L 123329
21 L 139322
21 L 155246
21 L 156910
21 L 161759
21 L 161765
21 L 164897
21 L 185125
21 L 192120
21 L 215551
21 L 216258
21 L 275876
21 L 286057
21 L 289804
21 L 310083
21 L 316780
21 L 325825
21 L 330029
21 L 338408
21 L 343106
21 L 354070
21 L 360857
21 L 372061
21 L 372839
21 L 375799
21 L 378242
21 L 39668
21 L 424648
21 L 45893
21 L 465395
21 L 4798
21 L 480895
21 L 519371
21 L 526717
21 L 526741
21 L 526762
21 L 533921
21 L 549677
21 L 549707
21 L 618438
21 L 653609
21 L 85812
21 L 87167
22 L 112131
22 L 115042
22 L 118640
22 L 125006
22 L 133722
22 L 193737
22 L 19950
22 L 203486
22 L 205311
22 L 276855
22 L 30938
22 L 310289
22 L 318542
22 L 348151
22 L 372836
22 L 385603
22 L 388877
22 L 62936
22 L 642366
22 L 669852
22 L 682975
22 L 81411
22 L 8509
22 L 96615
23 L 11803
23 L 163677
23 L 188434
23 L 204176
23 L 235173
23 L 278807
23 L 293527
23 L 300073
23 L 378251
23 L 508404
23 L 526737
23 L 526743
23 L 549679
23 L 728547
23 L 73053
23 L 78761
23 L 920
24 L 118678
24 L 222907
24 L 3557
24 L 530224
24 L 62406
24 L 94410
25 L 267510
25 L 290559
25 L 347607
25 L 465366
25 L 541642
26 L 184460
26 L 323674
26 L 344903
27 L 549680
32 L 260630
So just one streak of length 27 (which we've already seen), and one of length 32! Here's a list of the bets in the streak: betid stake nonce uid profit
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594728180 200 291908 260630 200
1 594728262 200 291909 260630 -200
2 594728310 400 291910 260630 -400
3 594728381 800 291911 260630 -800
4 594728434 1600 291912 260630 -1600
5 594728498 3200 291913 260630 -3200
6 594728551 6400 291914 260630 -6400
7 594728607 12800 291915 260630 -12800
8 594728687 25600 291916 260630 -25600
9 594728733 51200 291917 260630 -51200
10 594728808 102400 291918 260630 -102400
11 594728856 204800 291919 260630 -204800
12 594728945 409600 291920 260630 -409600
13 594729004 819200 291921 260630 -819200
14 594729067 1638400 291922 260630 -1638400
15 594729122 3276800 291923 260630 -3276800
16 594729172 6553600 291924 260630 -6553600
17 594782307 1 291925 260630 -1
18 594782760 1 291926 260630 -1
19 594783201 1 291927 260630 -1
20 594783572 1 291928 260630 -1
21 594784018 1 291929 260630 -1
22 594784410 1 291930 260630 -1
23 594784957 1 291931 260630 -1
24 594785353 1 291932 260630 -1
25 594785745 1 291933 260630 -1
26 594786161 1 291934 260630 -1
27 594786631 1 291935 260630 -1
28 594787075 1 291936 260630 -1
29 594787506 1 291937 260630 -1
30 594789249 1 291938 260630 -1
31 594790116 1 291939 260630 -1
32 594791171 1 291940 260630 -1
594791672 1 291941 260630 1 and here's output from my bet verifier which generates rolls from seeds: $ ./lucky.js 291908 34 2b193ae83a088ca11f808ef4db9da4bc68c4a01b317fd104cd8e79fc7d9a7f0c 308408532456769456759112 i58i8SlIDoo2paZ_7OP9OVvJNB2MHm4i8rJU7DoMfbl4BwaH4mov1hMfT8RqROua 49.5 H
291908 : W 64.113
291909 : L 39.087
291910 : L 22.8078
291911 : L 16.018
291912 : L 33.0224
291913 : L 28.0317
291914 : L 9.4917
291915 : L 19.9247
291916 : L 46.2364
291917 : L 36.2265
291918 : L 29.941
291919 : L 19.2585
291920 : L 49.8742
291921 : L 5.7423
291922 : L 20.5929
291923 : L 15.4772
291924 : L 27.068
291925 : L 5.0728
291926 : L 18.1911
291927 : L 3.3703
291928 : L 3.891
291929 : L 47.9745
291930 : L 46.4776
291931 : L 26.3415
291932 : L 19.6482
291933 : L 44.9941
291934 : L 47.9113
291935 : L 3.5476
291936 : L 6.4686
291937 : L 17.3988
291938 : L 44.617
291939 : L 16.4191
291940 : L 6.9321
291941 : W 54.4194 Finally, confirmation from the database which holds the bet archive: > select * from bets where uid=260630 and betid >= 594728180 and betid <= 594791672 order by betid;
+-----------+---------+------+--------+--------+--------+--------+---------------------+----------+
| betid | bet | high | chance | nonce | secid | uid | date | profit |
+-----------+---------+------+--------+--------+--------+--------+---------------------+----------+
| 594728180 | 200 | 1 | 495000 | 291908 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:41 | 200 |
| 594728262 | 200 | 1 | 495000 | 291909 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:42 | -200 |
| 594728310 | 400 | 1 | 495000 | 291910 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:43 | -400 |
| 594728381 | 800 | 1 | 495000 | 291911 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:44 | -800 |
| 594728434 | 1600 | 1 | 495000 | 291912 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:45 | -1600 |
| 594728498 | 3200 | 1 | 495000 | 291913 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:45 | -3200 |
| 594728551 | 6400 | 1 | 495000 | 291914 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:46 | -6400 |
| 594728607 | 12800 | 1 | 495000 | 291915 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:47 | -12800 |
| 594728687 | 25600 | 1 | 495000 | 291916 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:48 | -25600 |
| 594728733 | 51200 | 1 | 495000 | 291917 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:49 | -51200 |
| 594728808 | 102400 | 1 | 495000 | 291918 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:50 | -102400 |
| 594728856 | 204800 | 1 | 495000 | 291919 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:50 | -204800 |
| 594728945 | 409600 | 1 | 495000 | 291920 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:51 | -409600 |
| 594729004 | 819200 | 1 | 495000 | 291921 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:52 | -819200 |
| 594729067 | 1638400 | 1 | 495000 | 291922 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:53 | -1638400 |
| 594729122 | 3276800 | 1 | 495000 | 291923 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:54 | -3276800 |
| 594729172 | 6553600 | 1 | 495000 | 291924 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:42:55 | -6553600 |
| 594782307 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291925 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:54:43 | -1 |
| 594782760 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291926 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:54:49 | -1 |
| 594783201 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291927 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:54:55 | -1 |
| 594783572 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291928 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:00 | -1 |
| 594784018 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291929 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:06 | -1 |
| 594784410 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291930 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:11 | -1 |
| 594784957 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291931 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:18 | -1 |
| 594785353 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291932 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:23 | -1 |
| 594785745 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291933 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:28 | -1 |
| 594786161 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291934 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:33 | -1 |
| 594786631 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291935 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:39 | -1 |
| 594787075 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291936 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:45 | -1 |
| 594787506 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291937 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:55:50 | -1 |
| 594789249 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291938 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:56:13 | -1 |
| 594790116 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291939 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:56:24 | -1 |
| 594791171 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291940 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:56:39 | -1 |
| 594791672 | 1 | 1 | 495000 | 291941 | 448249 | 260630 | 2014-02-07 20:56:46 | 1 |
+-----------+---------+------+--------+--------+--------+--------+---------------------+----------+
I don't know what to say. I feel bad for Dandi losing so much. I feel stupid having offered such a large bet. Initially I wasn't going to mention a cap, thinking people would only bet fractions of a bitcoin each. Then I realised someone might want to bet thousands and I wouldn't be able to cover it. So I put a stupidly high cap on it. And then Dandi bet the maximum. Thanks for playing I guess. I'll do good deeds with the coins. |
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By the way, I sent those 0.02 BTC directly from my just-dice account to 1CNPpAx, is that a problem? (it's still not on the blockchain)
Yeah, that would have been a problem, 'cos I said I would send winnings back to the sending address, which in your case is a random address in the JD hot wallet. But since only 3 people played and they all have JD accounts, I'll just pay their winnings directly to their JD accounts. Notice that the 50 BTC is all used up now, so I'll announce the result early: 10:26:06 (484707) <H.dandiilion> Withdrawal successful. Sent 47.99999800 to [1CNPpAxC].
10:26:14 (484707) <H.dandiilion> shit this is going to be the longest week ever.
10:26:20 (715770) <Homosexual> HOLY SHIT
10:26:25 (778360) <may> 30 fucking k
10:26:25 (99999) <I hustle harder> Gl
10:26:28 (678506) <ricky> just fill the bet and let us know lol
10:26:30 (484707) <H.dandiilion> left 1BTC open for others...
I fill the remaining <1 BTC myself just to get it over with. And now my script is checking for the longest streak. Then this happened: 10:30:49 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> Dandiilion you want to do insured $5000 with a $3000 kick back on a win?
10:32:13 (484707) <H.dandiilion> BAC that sounds good to me . im going out now, ill PM you my email so we can coordinate this later?
10:32:20 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> Sounds good
10:32:39 (99999) <BayAreaCoins> ya I'm going to enjoy my day and try nto to think about it too, but I really don't think there has been a 28 on 1 user
so I'll wait and give them a chance to work out their insurance deal before announcing the result. Of course, I don't know how long the script will take to run either. Thanks for playing everyone. (568076) <ford> 1.0000000
(forum) <f3tus> 0.0019001
(484707) <H.dandiilion> 47.9999980
(1) <dooglus> 0.9981019
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I don't understand how people fall for Ponzi like these, if OP really wants to give away bitcoins for no reason, why not start a giveaway website?
Again. I am sure iT is not ponzi. You can see payment on blockchain.info And.. again they might be all your addresses. "Ponzi" doesn't mean you don't pay. It simply means that you pay your dividends using deposits from newcomers. BS&T was a Ponzi that paid 1% per day for months. It still went bust in the end. If you admitted that this was a Ponzi, that would be OK-ish, but you claim that you make the profits from "mining" makes it a scam. If you make the profits from mining, why don't you keep them rather than giving them away to strangers? |
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[...] It closely relates to that "was there 28x 49.5% unlucky rounds in row" bet you have started in another thread. (My personal guess is it already happend more than once ) That's what I like about your just-dice - that user's are able to take such risks and take "share" of house. do you have a link to that thread? He's talking about this. |
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Coinroll is a scam.
And satoshi36.com too, cover 35 numbers and check yourself. Unfair.
just gathered that, something strange happened on coinroll.it i do not recommend it anymore What "something strange"? As I understand it they're provably fair, so it should be possible to prove any wrong-doing on their part. |
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