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6761  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 15, 2013, 06:47:47 PM
Graphs moving slowly to left..
6762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 15, 2013, 05:57:27 PM
they're doing pretty good with lag, max 7 seconds and it went down in one.
6763  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER for dummies? on: April 15, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
That's OK for people that holds coins from earlier time, not really for us later adopters, it's pretty risky to invest at current prices for something that would need 2+ years to make roi.

I'd probably enter if it is 0.02 per share, unfortunately not at 0.007 as much as I would like. That USB stuff looks promising but shares went up after it's announced so it canceled lot of it's potential.
Are you silly? What kind of P/E ratios re you expecting?

In a market as volatile as btc is I'd expect to make roi in a year at most.

As I said, if I'm early adopter and have few hundreds or few thousands coins, than it would be easy thing to do. Unfortunately, I'm not so I'm not ready to do it for roi expected in 2+ years, lot of things can happen in that time.


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Rising share price , Promising outlook with a future in selling hardware and mining btc  ? Did you ever buy a Stock ? Apple does not even pay dividends. Many companies in the real world pay only up to 4 % per year If you think it is too expensive you clearly cannot afford it, and therefore should not buy.

We're talking about some different things, BTC is still highly risk market, it's far away from regular business. I don't care about rising share price, my main aim would be toearn more coins from dividends. I don't own lot of coins and would need to buy them to purchase shares. I can afford what I can afford, it's not millions but it's few bucks Smiley but I'm not ready to risk even what I can afford in such volatile market and at current btc prices for such long term. I'd rather trade coins on exchanges.
Then you could deposit coins in coinlenders and earn interest. The returns are not going to be 350%+ a year (seems like what you imply you're looking for), but I guarantee deposits so you're not going to lose them.

No, I'm muslim, I don't lend money/coins for profit. It's trading for me then.
6764  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER for dummies? on: April 15, 2013, 03:15:08 PM
That's OK for people that holds coins from earlier time, not really for us later adopters, it's pretty risky to invest at current prices for something that would need 2+ years to make roi.

I'd probably enter if it is 0.02 per share, unfortunately not at 0.007 as much as I would like. That USB stuff looks promising but shares went up after it's announced so it canceled lot of it's potential.


Yes but it was the "early adopters" that took on that risk. Board members basically spent 500 BTC ($6500 at the time) for 5k shares. They could easily cash out for $300k now. Whether you think it's expensive or not, is up to you. friedcat has followed through with his previous announcements and the upcoming ones will definitely raise share prices.

If you looked at my links, you'd realize that the 0.007/share is only temporary.

I'm not bashing anyone here, it's clearly to see that asicminer is reliable company. Good luck to them and all of youthat are holding shares, I wish I wouldhave some too but unfortunately won't do it at the moment, I'd rather buy some of those usb babies Smiley
6765  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER for dummies? on: April 15, 2013, 03:12:42 PM
That's OK for people that holds coins from earlier time, not really for us later adopters, it's pretty risky to invest at current prices for something that would need 2+ years to make roi.

I'd probably enter if it is 0.02 per share, unfortunately not at 0.007 as much as I would like. That USB stuff looks promising but shares went up after it's announced so it canceled lot of it's potential.
Are you silly? What kind of P/E ratios re you expecting?

In a market as volatile as btc is I'd expect to make roi in a year at most.

As I said, if I'm early adopter and have few hundreds or few thousands coins, than it would be easy thing to do. Unfortunately, I'm not so I'm not ready to do it for roi expected in 2+ years, lot of things can happen in that time.


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Rising share price , Promising outlook with a future in selling hardware and mining btc  ? Did you ever buy a Stock ? Apple does not even pay dividends. Many companies in the real world pay only up to 4 % per year If you think it is too expensive you clearly cannot afford it, and therefore should not buy.

We're talking about some different things, BTC is still highly risk market, it's far away from regular business. I don't care about rising share price, my main aim would be toearn more coins from dividends. I don't own lot of coins and would need to buy them to purchase shares. I can afford what I can afford, it's not millions but it's few bucks Smiley but I'm not ready to risk even what I can afford in such volatile market and at current btc prices for such long term. I'd rather trade coins on exchanges.
6766  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Getting Interest In Group Buy Of 4xAvalon Batch 2s on: April 15, 2013, 03:03:53 PM
I'm definitely interested, shoot me up a pm when full details are known.
6767  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER for dummies? on: April 15, 2013, 03:01:38 PM
That's OK for people that holds coins from earlier time, not really for us later adopters, it's pretty risky to invest at current prices for something that would need 2+ years to make roi.

I'd probably enter if it is 0.02 per share, unfortunately not at 0.007 as much as I would like. That USB stuff looks promising but shares went up after it's announced so it canceled lot of it's potential.
6768  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER for dummies? on: April 15, 2013, 02:35:22 PM
Could you save me some time and post when is that coming?
6769  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER for dummies? on: April 15, 2013, 02:28:03 PM
Okay I read the thread and now have 1 share in your asicminer pt cost was .84 bit coins.  

today is the 15th of april  when do I get a dividend and where is it deposited does it go to my btct account?
  I would like to buy  a share a week or a share every 10 days. please get back to my question thanks in advance.  phil

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148827.msg1802908#msg1802908

Wow, are these dividends going to be any higher, 0.007 is pretty low, it's 13-14 months of current share prices
6770  Economy / Securities / Re: Guaging group buy for Avalon Batch 2's on: April 15, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Interested but need more details..
6771  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: Getting Interest In Group Buy Of 4xAvalon Batch 2s on: April 15, 2013, 02:02:27 PM
more info please
6772  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 14, 2013, 11:57:21 PM
api is slower again, moody and bitcoinity are not catching it real time
6773  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 14, 2013, 11:30:54 PM
I'd definitely buy below 90 but all my bloody fiat is on btc-e and few bullies that control complete exchange over there are keeping price at 93 despite it was usually 7-8$ less then gox at least. Some people are absolutely raped there by few bullies with hundreds coins that let them run huge pump and dumps.
6774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 14, 2013, 11:25:39 PM
my policy

don't make losing trades

sit and wait till you make your strike price

I'm waiting for days to drop more with some fiat available Smiley
6775  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 14, 2013, 11:17:39 PM
Looks like it's "Dump & DDoS" time again.

Doesn't seem to have worked though, no gox lag and no panic (yet).

Fuck, this btc buisness is big stress
i not get any sleep, and need go to work also ;( lol

i just sold at 88, but if i have my usual luck
it will go back up now

it probably will, lol
6776  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 14, 2013, 10:57:43 PM
5k sale, bots fight to keep it over 90
6777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 13, 2013, 10:20:14 PM

it's back here too
6778  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 13, 2013, 10:17:46 PM
gox down for me
6779  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 13, 2013, 10:09:53 PM
Excelent!

The market has responded beautifuly through this.

I'm very happy.

far from over yet
6780  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 13, 2013, 10:04:08 PM
when you don't have idea what to do just sit and don't buy or sell, lol. That's what I'm doing now.
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