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6781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in Casino tokens such as BFG, OWL or TFS on: November 25, 2022, 01:38:23 PM
By the way, I found that BFG is still very well tolerated by the crisis caused by the collapse of the FTX crypto exchange. 
All cryptocurrencies, and even bitcoin and ethereum, are falling in price together, and the BFG token, on the contrary, has either been stable or even growing in price in recent days.  It seems that this token already occupies a certain niche, which may even become such a temporary haven for small investments over time.  Moreover, for periods of acute crises, such as the one that has been going on for more than 10 days after the SBF story. Smiley
Recent FTX drama doesn't make any huge effect with any of casino's token. Like BFG, the price seems stable not because it's not affected by FTX drama, but rather because it only has small volume trade. Now it's has $240,000 volume trade, which compared low for a volume coin trade. It also only listed on bitswap and many other small other exchanges and DEX.
there's no lots of people traded the BFG token. The same thing happend with another token as well. The FTX was giving a huge impact to the crypto with so many demand and crypto that has relationship with FTX. The volume of BFG was not stable. it can go down drastically too. The price of BFG was droppig around 20% once bitcoin has been dropping a lot due to the FTX case. As long as there will be no another incident happened with crypto and im sure if it can recover so fast.

Well, the FTX thing is something that gave us goosebumps, about some threads that have been created in the forum about what is better? have our coins in exchanges or in a personal wallet? Due to what happened, we already know what the correct answer is, of course this causes a lot of fear to investors, in fact it affected Bitcoin too much, even though it was not a "Fundamental" so that it could be taken with such intensity, but As I said before, bass players take advantage of these occasions to make their shorts and buy cheap.

At the same time, I think that a token or any currency that you decide to buy right now is a very personal decision, because you have to take advantage of the bear market and one way is to buy, but considering the high risks. . . . that must be studied, I think that many currencies have dropped in price due to the effect of Bitcoin and it is normal, let us remember that Bitcoin is the father of cryptos, so at all times we must always be attentive before buying any token, we must review the price of bitcoin (just in case) the price is about to go down or up, if it is convenient to buy at that moment or not, that would be my advice or suggestion, personally I have BFG tokens and I like to have them there, sometimes I play but without putting them at risk, I bet very little, but I have faith that they will increase in price when Bitcoin of that great bullish rally that we all expect, some forecast for 2024 but it is not known, that is where the market speculation enters.
6782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. on: November 25, 2022, 05:15:20 AM

...I don't know what or why they made such a bad decision, things could have been It turned out differently, however they preferred to go the way where a conciliation is not possible so that they can get a better deal, something better and an opportunity for the casinos that have always been faithful to the platform.


Perhaps these measures announced by Twitch have anything to do with the NFT fever that was going on during the first months of this year?
Casinos have nothing to do with NFT's but NFTs are part of the crypto ecosystem. Because many failed projects and scams which involved NFT's, there has been a negative perception about them, specially from the public which does not partake in our community very often. is there any possibility this was the idea of an uninformed Twitch executive ?




Well, personally, when there was the rise of NFT games, I was one of those who thought it was going to be something very good, and I played Plants vs Undead, and also through a scholarship I went to play Axie, maybe I came. in too late and I had no profit first in Plants vs Undead it stopped after I joined and kept going down and in Axie you have to be really good to get everything so basically what I did was lose money then maybe the fact having twitch with an uninformed agent or executive could have had a significant impact when making a decision, however I think there are things that have more weight behind all this.

Currently with the NFT thing they have cleaned up the name a lot, for example in Rollbit, they have their project with the NFT Rollbots and that gives a lot of credibility to the NFT, for me there was much more to the Twitch thing and that maybe we don't know, In this aspect, the business model they manage is quite broad and it is very difficult to determine the reasons or possible reasons and to tell the truth, what you suppose is something that makes a lot of sense, maybe that's where the whole problem is headed.
6783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Would a Nation of Sports Gamblers Look Like? on: November 25, 2022, 04:59:36 AM
When I read article I was surprised to see that it claims sports betting is more problematic than other kinds. I don't see why. Sports betting happens when there are competitions. But you can gamble 7/24 on online casinos. Sports betting takes amount of experience skill, knowing teams to hit a win etc But other kinds of gambling games are mostly very easy and luck based. So easy to hook. I don't agree with argument.

So many sports pickers these days that some of the gamblers don't even know the game, they just bet based on what YouTubers pick for them.

The article actually branches out to different sub-topics about sports betting but it's a very political article that lets every voter see whichever party wins, the winning party will do no different than the other will do, all lies. The same effect and the same thing, sports betting will continue either in the area or online.
Yes, in fact it is a very clear option that when we make a bet it is like in trading, we ourselves are to blame, we cannot predict exactly what may happen in a sport, but there is something clear, here in sports betting we have more chance to win than to play in a slot machine, because in sports betting our decision is what makes us win or lose and we do not depend on a random system, if luck can be mixed, but it is optional. In the event that I choose a particular sport to bet without a doubt, it is soccer, other sports can be boxing and UFC, in other sports I need to learn, I do not have the experience to face making a bet blindly, it would be losing money.


You clearly did not made a mistake since you are replying to QueenVera

https://web.archive.org/web/20221125013407/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418224.20




Hello bugwaysa, yes I answered, but if you look closely I did it in this board of the wrong forum (which does not belong), when they told me this, that was the reason why I deleted it, because I did it and I did not pay attention to what was inside from another thread, if I leave a post from another thread in this thread it is not correct, anyway I apologize for the inconvenience and misunderstanding caused.
6784  Economy / Services / Re: POKER COURSES FOR SALE on: November 25, 2022, 04:00:13 AM
As a poker player, I am offering help on how to get started and start crushing the micros for free. If you are interested in more in-depth coaching, we can also work something out.

For more information, please send me a PM.

Your topic said the course was for sale and in details you're saying it's for free and asking people to come to your dm.
One of the hardest things to do is to convince people and asking them to come to dm even if what you have to offer is really genuine because that is one of the tricks used by scammers.
I don't want to tag this content a scam but one thing you should know is that people value things that are expressed in details openly in the forum so that people can ascertain it's genuity rather than asking us to come to dm.
You should atleast show us some results from the use of the course and also try to show and tell us openly here what you I tend telling us privately in your pm.
Just my kindly suggestion
The way things are going, I don't see it as serious that someone wants to give a course for free, but it would be nice if instead of a DM they could offer the content here in the forum, and that it be downloadable, besides that is a very good thing because that way you will get more attention, also one of the things that people require the most here in the forum is help, and that is why so many opinions have jumped on this topic, people want to have information and because of the information that is so valuable I understand that they wanted charge, but how many technical techniques can there be in pojker that are so expensive? professionals have their tricks up their sleeves, but what information can be so valuable, what can it contain?


did you just copied what LUCKMCFLY said https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418224.msg61343362#msg61343362

Edit

Thank you very much, I wanted to quote you.

I will notify you by PM of your mistake.

Thank you @bugwaysa

That's mysterious. It should be you that edits your post but LUCKMCFLY's post was edited also while you deleted yours.
but wayback machine doesn't lie.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221125013407/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418224.20


I notified him by PM, if he edited it that's up to him, he posted on the wrong board, I quoted him here because this is where the users he quoted are.


Do you mean he was the one who copied you?

Looking at the time line, he was the first to have posted it.

November 24, 2022, 07:32:47 PM  LUCKMCFLY's post
November 24, 2022, 08:09:57 PM  yours



If it is as you say, I gave him a copy and paste here, only when I saw your message I saw that I copied it wrong, then I edited it and sent him a pm with the link saying that I had to fix the publication. what do you see mysterious there?

Its mysterious  because you said you quote him but you said nothing but just quoting him and hit post.

Hello here, well the mistake was mine, I posted on the wrong forum board, it has happened to me on other occasions, it is due to my carelessness, I deleted the post immediately when danadc told me and then I made the corresponding post. Well, I hope you'll excuse me for that, and I didn't bother someone with that mistake.  I have also sometimes warned people when they are wrong so that they do not report their publications, only I do it by private message. This time I was notified, both by private msg and here.
6785  Economy / Gambling / Re: Black Friday fever: do you wait for extra bonuses from casinos? on: November 25, 2022, 03:52:15 AM
But come to think of it Black Friday on a casino will really be amazing. I just wish it comes with a complete free bet or bigger odds lesser stakes, Big promos and higher referral rewards. It might seem too much but if one out of the few mentioned is considered it will be a memorable Black Friday and that of subsequent years will be looked out for

Well, about free bets, I don't think that a casino launches that so that it can lose, I think that rather they can launch some very good promotions with great bonuses, that is if it is more viable, good only for those casinos that always want to be number 1 in the bonds.

Although to be honest, I would wait to do World Cup promotions, which are much better and more attractive, the emotion of football is unique and I think that is what is most sought after, if you want to attract, you have to leave certain things and focus on What else can generate profits for you, and the World Cup is a way for casinos to launch very juicy promotions, taking advantage of the emotions of the fans.



Personally I have had a bad experience with Black Fridays, I live in a country that is very close to the other and in that other country they offer Black Friday deals and I was not really convinced by the deals, a week before I visited the sites I wanted to go to , and what they did was raise the prices so that I would have the discount in the initial price that I saw last week, then I realized that it was fucking lies, of course I know that here in crypto things are different and here they are fulfilled .

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I'd say yes as I can't help but look forward to what casino promotions they could bring this time but I wouldn't get my hopes up on it because most of the time their offers would be in a form of a wagering contest or something similar that only the big players would have a chance to win. There's nothing wrong with those but I enjoy the promos even more where every gambler could win the same prizes instead of competing against each other.
Hey. Do  you mean that casinos offer same promos with different wagering? If so, I'd agree that it is not suitable for all players to accept a 40x wager. In MegaPari for example, we've decided to ask for minimum deposits to activate bonuses, so that even those who are curious to try out the platform are not supposed to spend much in the beginning. You may check if our current promo with lower wager and a minimum 10 EUR deposit fits your expectations.

Well I don't see that the promotion is bad, I have always said that when we enter a casino and see a promotion that interests us we take it, 10Eur seems to me to be something that is not bad at all, in fact that is what I always use for play slots, and as I said before in crypto casinos things are different here, there is no comparison with another, each casino has its own style when it comes to promotions.

In another order of ideas, the Black Friday offers are in few places, right now everyone is focused on taking advantage of the boom in the World Cup and that is something that is giving a lot to talk about.
6786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Would a Nation of Sports Gamblers Look Like? on: November 25, 2022, 02:54:02 AM
When I read article I was surprised to see that it claims sports betting is more problematic than other kinds. I don't see why. Sports betting happens when there are competitions. But you can gamble 7/24 on online casinos. Sports betting takes amount of experience skill, knowing teams to hit a win etc But other kinds of gambling games are mostly very easy and luck based. So easy to hook. I don't agree with argument.

So many sports pickers these days that some of the gamblers don't even know the game, they just bet based on what YouTubers pick for them.

The article actually branches out to different sub-topics about sports betting but it's a very political article that lets every voter see whichever party wins, the winning party will do no different than the other will do, all lies. The same effect and the same thing, sports betting will continue either in the area or online.
Yes, in fact it is a very clear option that when we make a bet it is like in trading, we ourselves are to blame, we cannot predict exactly what may happen in a sport, but there is something clear, here in sports betting we have more chance to win than to play in a slot machine, because in sports betting our decision is what makes us win or lose and we do not depend on a random system, if luck can be mixed, but it is optional. In the event that I choose a particular sport to bet without a doubt, it is soccer, other sports can be boxing and UFC, in other sports I need to learn, I do not have the experience to face making a bet blindly, it would be losing money.
6787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. on: November 25, 2022, 01:01:46 AM
Banning streamers looks very strange and I think steammers can always find other platforms they can use to get what the waited done without this kind of restriction from Twitch.

As far as I know on this matter, not all gambling platforms are hosted by Twitch, rather those hosted by Twitch are only unlicensed gambling live streams that are no longer available on Twitch.

And from what I saw, it started to be implemented last October 18, 2022, so the only gambling platforms that can live streaming using the Twitch platform are licensed online gambling businesses.
That's just a valid action from twitch. Twitch is a huge platform already. I think they have two reasons why they are banning these unlicensed casinos to be streamed; one is not supporting platforms which could promote risk for the viewers (scam or fraud online gambling platforms) even if they are being streamed by trusted streamers, they might not want twitch to be a part of the potentil problem. Another guess is monetary support from the gambling platform. Things being streamed on twitch are gettinf more players because of the exposure twitch and streamers are giving. And thode unregidtered are more likely non-paying as well. But these are just mere guesses. They probably have more valid reasons why.
It is quite understandable if twitch did only ban gambling platforms that are unlicensed however most of the gambling platforms, they've banned are licensed such as Stake. But still, I guess that Twitch is avoiding any crypto gambling casino on their platform whether they are licensed or not. I'm not sure about the reason behind this but it is more likely connected to crypto.

What I think of all this is that Twitch killed the goose that lays the golden eggs, not only because it banned a casino of the caliber of stake.com but it is limiting things a lot, and from experience I know that when a site gets like this it goes bankrupt very quickly and no one will want to enter, no one likes limitations when it comes to money and more than that it is favorable to people, I don't know what or why they made such a bad decision, things could have been It turned out differently, however they preferred to go the way where a conciliation is not possible so that they can get a better deal, something better and an opportunity for the casinos that have always been faithful to the platform.
6788  Economy / Gambling / Re: What else should an established crypto casino add? on: November 24, 2022, 11:01:09 PM
A few games that aren't really popular can be added too some few ones like Lightening Link, Big Fish, Keno and BetMGM just to have some variety of new stuffs not popular in other casinos. There are millions of Casino games out there having majority of the less common ones added will spice up the casino with different choice to make


I understand what you are asking for and yes you are right, a casino that has it all, let's say stake.com, is very likely to add new things and try to see how it goes, the caveat of all this is that they can afford to try to see what can work out for them, because it is a casino with so much confidence, that you can create that option of venturing into games that are more oriented towards gamers, a community that is very different where there are games that are very long and good , maybe you can take it into account, the advantage that stake.com has in this case is that it has a very large community, and the fact of being an old and reliable casino is what many people are looking for.
An additional question, and well it's something I'm curious, will they mess with the metaverses? And will they have availability or will they create a structure to spread more networks? like Polygon's? Solana?
6789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which has better odds, lottery, online gambling, or sports betting? on: November 24, 2022, 09:54:49 PM
~snip~
Well particularly about this match in focus, what will you call it that benzema who is suppose to rest a penalty on the goal net misses the penalty that would have given Madrid the wanted winning against the opponent osasuna. This match ended draw and causing pain to my friends who had that match as the last game to cash out big amount. There is no other way I could describe that match my friend .

That's the thing though, those events are random. No one can predict exactly 100% what's going to happen, that's why there are odds, and stronger teams pay less then weaker teams because that's what's expected.

But you never know, maybe something unusual happens and you can win more because you bet on that unusual event. That's the whole point.

Well this is something that has a lot to do with the skills of people, if there are people who have more skill in sports betting, obviously they will go for sports betting and analyze the statistics that are presented, this is something common, if we take into account I know that there are people who do well in the lottery and who like to spend on it knowing that it is much more difficult to win, because it is a matter of taste, for me personally I think it is easier to win by betting on sports than anything else, And if they put me to choose between trading and sports betting, I would choose trading without hesitation, because I know that it is my full responsibility there.
6790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do online casinos disadvantage some locations from winning big on: November 24, 2022, 08:48:22 PM
You know how casinos have set certain slots to only pay a certain amount to a winner, it it also possible that casinos are using an algorithm to limit how much it can payout for players coming from certain locations to avoid being dragged into legal disputes if a player is paid big money and the local authorities want to know the source and the alike?
regular casinos could easily do this as they have a lot of amenities that could ensure that someone couldn't go out of their casino easily. Free drinks, even free hotel stays for their regulars are some of the tactics that they employ to prevent gamblers from spending their money on a more fair casino. Oftentimes they cover it up as a "benefit." The same couldn't be said for online casinos, they do not have physical benefits  that could entice people to gamble more in their site, so there's no possibility, or a very little of it that they are rigging their games based on location.
Besides we need to think what could casinos gain by doing something like this? If it could be proven that casinos were doing this kind of distinction among their players then it would not take long for the gamblers which come from the countries which receive smaller payouts to simple leave that casino behind and move to a casino which was fair to all their customers.

Taking this into consideration I do not see how a casino would do something like this since I think it is even possible it could affect its reputation in the process.
I really don't know if relatively new casinos can do something like that, but I understand that the most reliable and reputable casinos don't do it, it's like they say, they would get into serious trouble, and they don't have any logic, because the majority of casinos that have to do with crypto, payments can be made in bitcoin, and a very high amount can be sent in Bitcoin, it is something that does not make much sense, the fact of thinking that in a certain country it is they have to limit I don't think so, maybe I would believe it if it is a casino that uses fiat for its transactions, already there or I would believe it because it is much more centralized and above all controlled.

6791  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling winner identity on: November 24, 2022, 06:02:35 PM
practicality ? yes this is good but make them lazy? he will be one of  the riches people in the world , so this is what happening so better to teach His family how to run a  business and teach them how to handle money properly or else they will not getting anything from his Will.
but hiding the money completely? maybe he has His own plans for than money  that is not part of the family lol.
Should I say that is a poor man mentality, or the thinking is not good.

I do not have to let my family to be thinking that we are poor when we are no more poor, it is wrong. You may not take good care of a child and it can also result to another thing not good. It is good to take good care of children, letting them have the mentality that they have a father that can help in the time of trouble than depending on someone from outside. You may think it can not happen, but you may not know until something bad happen.

There are children that came from poor home and gone bad. There are children that came from rich home that gone bad. That is just life. I have seen many people from rich home that got rich too, some even got richer more than their parents.

Because you have money, it does not still mean that you can not discipline your children.

Well I have a very open thought about this, in fact I have always thought that the poor are in our minds, in the decrees that can be made and affirmed without fault, a person who says all the time that he cannot because he does not have money, it is obvious that he will not be able to, a person who wants always looks for a way to have that money to see how he can solve it, this is something like what Robert Kiyosaki always recommends about certain situations in life, sometimes not only money is so valuable with having a lot of knowledge is a way to make quick money, these are the things that should be seen, there is nothing else, and this is ideally taught to children from an early age.
6792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A lottery's defense to not paying a huge winning. on: November 24, 2022, 05:05:29 PM
The question is ?
What do you really think of the lottery company and is there any chance for them to winning the case and not paying the winner?

What may be the irregularities the company is blaming the winner for. They seem just interested in denying the winner his prize, in my opinion. It seems strange to now accuse the winner of irregularities after they have been charged to court, after previously alleging that the system had deleted their winning data. Inquisitive investigation should be done by the court, and those who deserve it should receive justice.
So far, there is no definite and accurate information. we only read from Op's thread articles and posts, so in this case. I personally have to look at both sides in a balanced way, which is where both sides have their own claims.  In the end, the final decision will be made in court and both parties will have to prove it to win the case.

Any gambling sites that decided not to pay their customers maybe be getting it wrong and this might cause a bad omen that will make other gamblers to stop gambling on the platform. It is unfair for a gambling platform to decide not to pay their winners because the money won is huge. I know every gambling sites have their limit to what you can play and how much fund can be use be used. This is why if a player wins a big amount of money, he needed to be paid or the law enforcement should take care of this.

If you play on a site that decides not to pay the winnings that should be yours, then that site is a scam. So, you have to make sure that the casino you use has a credible reputation. and in our forum we have casinos that have a high reputation.

However, in this case. the lottery casino platforms had paid the man's winnings before. so, it's not like what you say here. this case has been in court, regarding the outcome, only the court can decide.
Well this is something that one also thinks the same, I am also in favor that if a casino does not pay as it should be at the time and invents things to not pay, I would also see it as a scam, of course it should be noted that we as players are always looking for the best casinos to be able to play, win, or it doesn't matter if you lose because what really matters is that you can enjoy yourself and if in fact a casino gives excuses like that it's because it tends to be a scam, you should also study very well the reasons given by the casino, although it is most likely a scam.

I am a person who always says that when a casino starts with so many excuses to pay an amount, one should totally get away from that.

6793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The History of Bingo on: November 24, 2022, 03:55:55 PM
Wow friend, great stories that you publish, thank you very much for taking us back to the beginning of the most basic games and that in every casino there is, in fact, the first casino I met in my life did not say casino, it was a Bingo and for the nights they used to do those Bingo draws, very exciting, it should be noted that the bingo game at that time I never won anything, other people were quite lucky, we should also point out that if it comes from Italy and for that year, it is because From Europe they have always liked good things, good fun and that based on fun a lot of money is generated.
6794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling today and lesson i learnt (lost 2000 usd today) on: November 24, 2022, 02:57:59 PM
Stay where you are good at and if a decision you have wanting to quit then just do it for good. It may hard at the beginning and you'll feel that you're going to win back those losses and you might experience those huge wins again, just don't think of it.
Clear your mind and have yourself really set for quitting and don't ever go back again. But most gamblers tell that and eventually, they're coming back and playing again.
As long as their desire is stronger than to return to gambling, they will not return for any reason because they want to leave gambling. And if they can not return to gambling, they can gradually forget about gambling and use other activities to not think about gambling. And everything will depend on how strongly he wants to stop gambling and cure or eliminate the desire to gamble. Once he had really mastered himself well, even if he returned to gambling, he would be able to quit whenever he wanted because gambling would not attract him like before.

Well, in the lessons of life, if many experiences have accumulated and are bad, we must learn from them, each person is different and has their way of thinking, which is something that must be respected, but having Bear in mind that what matters here is that a person feels good and if he doesn't feel that way with the game and sees that his conclusion or solution is not to play anymore, then he should do it, although I think quite the opposite, for me a person who plays in a casino is looking for fun.

Every person who goes to a casino has realized that they are looking for something different, some money, others to see them, and others are just looking for something so that they are not so empty, so in general terms I see gambling as an option to de-stress, spend a different time and have an experience that gives me happiness, and if to that is added the fact of earning money, then it is something much better.
6795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 24, 2022, 02:25:35 PM
Well Darmstadt is a team that is exciting many Germans and in particular many people who are not from Germany but who love football, as far as I'm concerned I think that Hamburguer SV is doing a good job too, but I don't know They can neglect, there are many teams that are eager to qualify and this is something that fills each of the players with a lot of hope, of course every dream of a player cannot be measured with a scale, but the fact of wanting Going to the Bundesliga is something that any player is excited about, the 2nd Bundesliga will always be exciting, but there will be teams that can complicate any classification, and it is a matter of seeing how everything continues to develop.

6796  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 Oscar Awards betting and discussions on: November 24, 2022, 01:55:30 AM
I think the idea of Oscars is something that is getting a bit of attention these days, and that’s the part that I am most interested in. There are superhero movies from Disney that I love so much, and nowadays the idea of "Oscar movie" is getting more mainstream as well, getting a lot more big name people too. Back in the day Oscar was something like this, but somewhere in the middle Oscars started to mean "boring, look at the drying wall for 30 minutes, cut your wrists out of boredom" movie, from like 2000 to 2020 or so it was like that.

But, quite recently we started to see some big names, and it’s proven this year with Spielbergs "sort of biography" type of his own movie, and also brad pitt margot robbie movie babylon, all of which is a big Hollywood movies and all deserve to have an Oscar one way or another.

You are right, there are many films that are very beunas, auunque to be honest there are many of the super heroes that I do not like at all, although I am not against many things, I do not like that they show so many freedoms to children, because I consider that their formation must first be given and forge a person, and when his personality is defined that for me it is at age 18 (for some, because there are some who do not mature) can affect them in their formation, then I as a father I am Very delicate as for the children's connide is shown, maybe I am very jealous, but I really do not agree, so far the only movie that I found very good is that of Top Gun 2, I have not had much Oporrtunida To watch films in its entirety, another movie that has told me that I liked Batman.
6797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do? on: November 24, 2022, 01:22:28 AM
I wouldn't advise for a brawl to breakout, but lessons learned from mistakes as this is one to either expose your friend in true light and for you to know what you can endure.
I would advice myself next time and follow my heart.

If anyone has a brawl with a friend because he lost a bet, it shows how immature he is. Friendship should not be traded for money no matter what happens. What if he had won the bet would he be quarrelling with his friend? No. The bettor should take responsibility for his loss and not put the blame on someone else. Adults take responsibility when things go bad and not trade blames.

Yes, I agree with what you say, but unfortunately the majority of people do not think that way, when it comes to money many people transform and do not recognize friendship or have any shame in doing whatever they give them their money, This is something that you should see very well when doing business with someone, especially when it is with a friend, because there is trust and you know how the person is, I would never put money first in a friendship, the person should be My same comp level so that I can fully understand the risks of a business and what it entails to be able to take them to a scenario where things go wrong and I cannot have control, that is where true friendship is seen.
6798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan December 10 on: November 24, 2022, 12:33:44 AM

Nevertheless, there is nothing he can do even if he lose this fight. Crawford is one of the best champion in this division and it could be a an honor for a EU champion like him to be suddenly on the biggest spotlight.


He maybe was a champion but he was not part of the top list of a champion where Spence and Crawford belong, that's why it's understandable if people will not think that he is not a good opponent as Crawford is just a celebrated champion. Well, upset is possible but I don't see one against Crawford.

He is a European Champion, not in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10 of the welterweight division.

Crawford goes on to say though that no one wanted to take a fight with him and so he goes with David here. Although we have heard that Ennis and Ortiz Jr should be recognized as his potential fight but who knows, maybe again boxing politics behind make this fight impossible.

So he chooses Avanesyan as his next opponent, for tuneup for a bigger fight for next year.

Well here is something clear, and it is that Crawford is a boxer through whom he could not find the fight against Spence, and that is something that I know frustrated him, but I thought Crawford's decision to look for the fight against David was good, he is a boxer who can be very tough and dfuicuk de gabar ty Crawford has to show that the fight against Spence is that little thorn that should be taken out, but with more previous victories, if there is not a good victory against David, it will be difficult for him to measure you with Spence, who is his main objective, for his part Spence did not stay behind, he has another fight, so things can be equalized for both, so that a good fight can take place.



In another order of ideas, with Crawford they have many opportunities to continue seeing him despite the fight he has with Avanesyan, whatever the result of the fight they want Crawford to have a very good fight, right now we have the following:

Crawford must fight Boots Ennis or Spence in 2023 or vacate WBO belt



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By Chris Williams: Terence Crawford must defend his WBO welterweight title against Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis or Errol Spence Jr in 2023 or vacate the belt.

Crawford, 35, is going to need some willingness to stick it out with the negotiations with Spence next year if doesn’t want to have to defend his WBO title against Boots Ennis and wind up getting knocked out by him.

There are two options available for Bud Crawford to avoid fighting Boots in 2023, and that’s as follows:

1. Fight Errol Spence

2. Vacate the WBO belt

Given the lack of patience Crawford showed during his previous negotiations with Spence, it’s unlikely he’ll stay with the talks until a fight is produced with the popular pay-per-view star.

At this point, it’s unclear whether Spence and his management at PBC will even bother trying to set up another fight with Crawford.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/11/crawford-must-fight-boots-ennis-or-spence-in-2023-or-vacate-wbo-belt/

However, there is still some time to see the fight and make good speculations, although the truth is that many have enough hope that Crawford will be the winner.
6799  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: November 24, 2022, 12:06:11 AM
I don't know about you, but this fight has had a different tint again, I know that many were 100% with Inoue, but I have read in some other forums that they are only about boxing that they have a lot of hope about Butler, I don't know, it is speculated that it is because of the type of preparation and training that he has taken and this has made people begin to consider their bets, this is something that does not seem bad to me, because I know that despite all this speculation the numbers will be very favor of Inoue, and looking at it from a technical point of view, Inoue is very good, but the surprise factor is that which sometimes surprises us and since there is so much money involved, things can change.

6800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: November 23, 2022, 08:25:39 PM
Well I think this fight is going to raise a lot of spirits and it is likely that a lot of action can be seen, I don't think it will be a fight where both take care of each other, I think it will have much more action, I don't know at this moment who to decide to make a bet, because Spence is a boxer with a very good technique, and I wanted to see the fight between him and Crawford, but unfortunately it will not happen, but I see that both boxers have squared their fights very well and this is something that is very good, for me this has many things in common, I think that both Crawgford and Spence, if they come out winners, should make that excellent fight that we all want, it remains to be seen how all this continues to develop.
Ok just to make it formal:

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"On November 14, 2022, TGB Promotions applied for special permission on behalf of Spence to fight Thurman in February 2023, but with specific mandatory conditions. Pursuant to WBA rule C.16, which states that mandatory defense periods can be modified for cause, either by special permission request or on its own initiative, the WBA decided that Spence can face Thurman," the WBA stated.

https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-vs-keith-thurman-title-fight-approved-by-wba--170619

So this fight has been sanctioned by the WBA already, one of Spence belt, and now that we have 2 bodies already, WBC + WBA and perhaps the IBF will follow suit with the mandatory fight order as well.

And to add to this, WBA also ordered WBA "regular" welterweight champion Eimantas Stanionis to make a mandatory defense against Vergil Ortiz.

And then the winner facing the winner of Spence vs Thurman to have one single champion.



This makes things more interesting because Spence is now more oblige to fight Thurman, he obviously cannot make some priorities on that revenge that he might be wanted because that will be an expensive mistake that will cost him 2 belts and there's a high chance that the IBF will follow as well, if that happens, all 3 belts is now on the line. Keith will surely be excited because things are getting into his favor, now the only thing he needed to do is to defeat Spence.

Well I think this is as I say, first you must prioritize everything that has to do with the commitments acquired, if there is something that I have learned as a athlete is that one must be made first with your fight, the one that has the closest, time Then all the occupies that are, there is no other, if they get to see and bsucar more things to complicate the fight is something that is not very well seen, as a good sponsor should know that, I know that now Spence is in a very Good level and that things can be given quickly, after the failed attempt Pro crawdord is something that has to be taken into consideration, Spence is a difficult boxer.

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