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6781  Local / Pamilihan / Re: [LF/WTB] BITCOIN COLLECTIBLES/CRYPTO-RELATED and/or INTERNET RELATED T-SHIRTS on: August 16, 2016, 05:52:10 AM
May nakapag tip sakin na dito sila bumibili ng mura na physical bitcoin bro check mo https://m.aliexpress.com/search.htm?keywords=physical+bitcoin mura nga naman dito base sa makikita mong presyo, at may nakikita akong legit seller sa fb group ko pero sobrang overprice sya kasi presyohan nya is 300 pesos per coin + 150 pesos shipping fee while nakuha nya lang naman un sa halagang 2$. Angry

At kung gusto mo ng magagandang physical coins at kung me budget kalang din naman bakit hindi ka makipag karerahan ng bidding dito? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=217.0 Natitiyak ko makakapili ka ng maganda dyan at posible pang maging high value ang mga coins na pinag bidding dyan.
Bro baka naman pwede pakitanong dun sa nagtip sa'yo kung isang bwan talaga 'yung shipping? Free shipping s'ya kaso isang bwan bago i-ship. Kapag naman isang linggo lang hihintayin, nasa 30$ ang bayad. Sad

Lalakas magbid ng mga tao dito ehh. Puro magaganda pati tinda d'yan. Puro mamahalin, eh ang hanap ko lang naman 'yung mga simpleng coin lang tulad nito at nito. Detailed kumbaga pero mura.

Mukhang ganyan na talaga kundisyon bro free shipping kasi at nasa ibang bansa ang seller kaya nga nag aalangan din ako bumili dyan kasi matagal ma receive e kakahiya naman din kung kunti lang bibilhin, kung gusto mo mabilisan bro me kilala ako na seller ng ganyan na coin kaso masyado ngalang OP sya sa presyohan nya pero madali mo lang din ma rereceive since via LBC nya ipapadala.

Pahirapan talaga basta ganyan at talagang gustong gusto mo mahirap din kasi bumili sa mga online store if gusto mo ng mabilisan and if sa mga foreign physical coin holder ka naman mapapamahal ka sa shipping fee.
6782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: August 16, 2016, 05:20:35 AM
Just to have fun and entertainment but never to support any of my needs. Gambling is good as long as you know how to have control of yourself. Depending on gambling for profit is a very dangerous road to tread on

That's a very good posting!
Gambling should be fun and not be a need!
As long as you gamble with money you can afford to lose you will be fine and can sleep well at night.  Wink


Yes, we should take gambling just for fun and Entertainment. I do play just to kill my free time. And if I am lucky and made any profit means I will sell that coins and buy my needful things. So my aim in gambling is just time pass.

If you are going to be serious with gambling and you are treating it as your main source of income it is better if you are going to stop aiming that.

In the end you are just going to fail because no one gets to be successful with that way, unless you are the luckiest man alive in the world.

Just enjoy every money you are going to waste there.

On the other hand aiming to win is not really bad its because we are in gambling industry, so if your not aiming really to win then what is your point why you are gambling? For fun? How about if you lost huge amount money for that entertainment you want, and it will ended up you will still cry looking to your wallet has been empty by your what you so could entertaiment tantrums,
6783  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is amazon will be accepting bitcoins in the future? on: August 16, 2016, 03:50:39 AM
If Amazon spend to accept bitcoin as a form of payment, I think the number of people using grow exponentially. We need a large company the first step so that the revolution can begin.

That is right. The user profile of the Amazon is wider than the companies such as the Steam or computer related companies.

Provably if amazon really accepts and put the logo of bitcoin as their payment processor will theirs no doubt that the numbEr of people using bitcoin will increase and may it can effect the furom market, maybe not also but mostly it can generate some more revenue if they really do that, and it can also help for those online business whos starting since bitcoib can be easy for them to have and finish the transaction immediately and it can cost them less since paypal or other processors deducted huge percentage in every transaction we made.
It will be a turnoff for bitcoin if amazon accepts it but honestly considering the unstable price of bitcoin it can create some problems for sellers if prices  drop a lot. Specially for wholesalers, unless they can find some solutions for instant exchange so if one pays in bitcoin then the payment can be directed into visa card of seller.

How could be a turn off for them? They can lessen their transaction payments with it and the market or people using bitcoins are globally rising for now so theirs no really bad if amazon will accept this, it can give them more huge benifits for themselves aswell as they can make the online shopping experience of bitcoin user much easier, and the one thing problem i've seen really for it is the flactuation of this coin this is big disadvantage for bitcoin since businessman can loss huge money if the flactuation is going down.
6784  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Earn Bitcoin Just For Being Active on: August 16, 2016, 02:33:54 AM
You need to provide more details about the payment rate mate, that's will encourage more people to visit your forum and being active there. And also open it for members with good experience about Bitcoin, not only for newbies.

I agree. You have to provide more informations on terms and conditions, how is the payment system organized and other necessary deatils to get people interested in your forum.It will not be easy to attract biger number of forum users.
I dont see any details for rate per post or details how they paying us weekly or daily.
the site looks new and looks like he is planning to build a community..

The Site is indeed very new and it has very few posts in it. I think OP needs to launch a good Scheme to permote his site otherwise it may take ages to get traffic to the site.

He really need unique advertisement since their are many huge bitcoin furom existing these days and i've seen many potential furom wich still striving for traffic for themselves eventhough they spend to much money for it to gather more traffic, if OP really got a desired to get some exposure to his site well he needs more money to spend on signature campaigns,outside advertising,weekly,monthly giveaways and paying good marketers to help him get the audience he want.
6785  Economy / Securities / Re: Bitcoin investing? on: August 16, 2016, 01:47:56 AM
Well, if you're looking for an investment site that is really honest, I think it would be very difficult. trust me, I also have several times tried, but in the end it ended up with a scam before my ROI. yeah, but it was around early 2015, maybe there is now a trusted site, but before that you have to be prepared to risk should you face
Yes, nearly we cannot trust in none of investment websites and if they have some physical proved identity we can trust them more.


Yes really i strongly agree with that and how come they can pay to their investor if they are just showing only their site, the fake proofs can be bought everywhere and that what is using by some other cloudmining to market their site and get more investor to became their scam victim, so to avoid beinh scam we must simply step back and shut off the site we are looking to invest and try to listen for peoples advices here cause some of them are true.

I put all my signature gains into Bitvest.  Its been working out pretty good, i keep gaining small amounts daily while earning it
from the campaign. Some days are better than others but for the most part its slow growth.

Although its bit risky but since bitvest are doing good out there then why not? Maybe i will keep to look at it in this coming future and try to see more stats of bitvest if it really worth to invest to that site.
6786  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Would you buy a hardware wallet? on: August 15, 2016, 11:18:51 PM
Hi all,

I am doing some research for a Bitcoin company that is interested with developing a hardware wallet to see if it has a viable market. Trezor has some traction, but perhaps only in the existing Bitcoin community. With things like Multi-sig popping up everywhere, do you think this negates some of the pressing need for Hardware wallets? Interested to hear your thoughts.
Hardware wallet is best if you want to store your coins safely but unless someone has more than 5-10 bitcoins,buying a hardware wallet is not feasible
There are some potential risks if you buy a hardware wallet, such as losing it or even someone stole it.

Both online and hardware wallet  have potential risk of losing your bitcoin into it. Just put up to your mind the most important things to consider to be kept on a safe place like passwords,keys so that incase your account would be lost  you can retrieve it.
But to be hoenst at least about hardware wallets you can ensure that they do not become hacked and you have more control

you have a point but remember  hardware wallet  have also risk on losing your bitcoins it might be lost or  corrupted and theres nothing you can do about it.  Agree you have your control on your bitcoin when its in a hardware wallet just make it sure that it is  kept  in a secure place.

That could be happen if you are lame enough upon handling your hardwares but if you really placed it on secured area well you can make sure your btc is safe but those hard wallets are for people who holds lots of thousand,millions of btc or company that needed to be secured their btc since it was an ideal place for them where they can kept securely their btc and i think blockchain wallet is enough for people who do regular daily transaction.
6787  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 15, 2016, 10:19:11 PM
its depends what do you play in gambling, if playing on sport betting can be profitable in the long term
if do you have a knowledge about the soccer.
sports betting might also give you only losses, in my opinion all gambling games are really risky, i never play for a long time in order not to lose everything

Yeah there is no guarantee that you will make profits in gambling either in casino games or in sports betting, everything depends on luck and no strategy can help you in gambling to make profits.

If you are just a small bettor well there's no really gaurantee that we can earn profits on gambling since as people said repeatedly gambling is based on gamblers luck and what would be happen if luck is not favor with us? Well high possibilities that we can lose our money with that so better for us really that don't take gambling for granted and don't ever think that you can do magic trick to win on that its because the only one who will become rich in gambling is the owner or not unless you hit the one time jackpot in your lucky betting time.
6788  Local / Pamilihan / Re: [LF/WTB] BITCOIN COLLECTIBLES/CRYPTO-RELATED and/or INTERNET RELATED T-SHIRTS on: August 15, 2016, 03:19:51 PM
Kumusta mga pinoy Smiley

Looking for o bumibili ako ng:
- Physical coin ng Bitcoin. Pwede din altcoin like dogecoin, litecoin, etc.
- T-shirt na may tatak na bitcoin. (Size: Medium)
- T-shirt na related sa memes sa Internet. (Size: Medium)

Payment:
- Paypal Funds (bakit? kasi sobrang baba ng palitan ng Bitcoin ngayon at malulugi ako kapag tumaas na bitcoin)
- Bitcoins (kapag naging 32k up ulet ang isa)

Shipping:
- Yes, hindi po ako taga-Manila. Marinduque po ang location ko.

Escrow:
- Pwede, pwede din hindi pero hindi ako ang ma-uunang magsend.

Yan lang muna sa ngayon, meron pa akong mga need na bilhin but yan muna ang priority ko sa ngayon. Smiley

Local rules:
May karapatan akong mag-pass sa kahit anong offer.

May nakapag tip sakin na dito sila bumibili ng mura na physical bitcoin bro check mo https://m.aliexpress.com/search.htm?keywords=physical+bitcoin mura nga naman dito base sa makikita mong presyo, at may nakikita akong legit seller sa fb group ko pero sobrang overprice sya kasi presyohan nya is 300 pesos per coin + 150 pesos shipping fee while nakuha nya lang naman un sa halagang 2$. Angry

At kung gusto mo ng magagandang physical coins at kung me budget kalang din naman bakit hindi ka makipag karerahan ng bidding dito? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=217.0 Natitiyak ko makakapili ka ng maganda dyan at posible pang maging high value ang mga coins na pinag bidding dyan.
6789  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: XAUR buy and sell on: August 15, 2016, 03:02:38 PM
XAUR value is under valued in this thread. I suggest bounty hunters to keep your XAUR safely for sometime. Don't dump it here for this small amounts.


you can't blame others on selling their xaur. because maybe they need some bitcoins badly. and you can't guarantee that the reward for bounty is exactly 0.1btc as promise since it is not yet
release in exchange. i think many will complain if the market price is below expected.

I'm not blaming. I just ask them to hold if they can for sometime. It is their wish to hold/sell. My opinion is if they can hold they can get higher amounts in btc. Crypto markets can not be predicted.

As omegasun stated he already pasted his private keys so he can't do nothing with it and choose to sell rather gamble for unknown things and might get compromise his balance, since he dont know how to use his eth wallet so it is wiser decision for him to sold it Smiley he needs money to be use on his tantrums,

anybody has entitled for his own decision maybe its wrong for your sight but for the fact that he own it well he can do whatever he want for it, so we should respect anybodies decision its freemarket anyways,

But i'd rather to hold my xaur to gain more profit from it, i believe this coin will have a bright future since it was back up with gold and possibly will became more expensive just like the old xau.
6790  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Is this site secure to invest on: August 15, 2016, 10:31:00 AM
bitstorm.biz
I have found this site from internet..
Is this a safe site to invest my bitcoin? Huh Huh Huh

better you stay away from that site. that site in include in HYIP which is High Yield Investment Program. HYIP is high risk, you can get lost all your money in that site. why you are not trying to trading rather than you try that site? but its all up to you, i only can give you my opinion.
Thanks mate I was about to invest small amount like 0.002 btc. If it is trusted It won't be matter of risk about small amount i think.. it says it gives daily profit. please correct me if I am wrong

Dont listen for those people who invited you to invest in hyip sites because mostly of them are referral comm hungry people they just want to get money from your depo and put you on danger to get scam, and dont ever invest on any hyips existing today nor in future because all of them are scam it is being talk some of the threads here, hyips are not best solution or idea for us to earn money so keep away and better hold your btc for a moment untill you find good alternatives investment and tradings is one of the best platform to earn money for that.
Yes, very sad that even now many of people are investing  on those websites. They are professional and modern scams.

I really dont know how they think they can earn with that site while it is clearly stated all over the threads here and it was spoken by many people that all of hyips are scam, so why bother to invest on scam? Thats why it's very advisable for newbie one that never ever invest at that site eventhough they are giving high roi to you or anyone of its because it is their strategy to market their site and got many victims to scam.
6791  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: August 15, 2016, 06:11:04 AM
The risky and fastest way is trading and gambling, but the safety way, i think investment is good. But remember, there is no 100% safe on all investment. Be wise to your money.
Investing could take years to get 140% and more in return and also with risk of lossing. Better to invest in multiple potential altcoins and also trying day trading will be good way to grow up bitcoin.

There isnt any investment websites someone can trust now a days to invest their money and get guaranteed returns from it, so investing is really not an option even someone cannot get 140% returns from them because they will just run away with your money after some time.

There's no trusted and reliable site really existing today if you mean hyip investment because all of them are oppurtunies and fucking scam so its not advisable to put any huge amount in that damn scam site, but the only site i see where you can put a huge amount is on exchangers since you can already manipulate the price of alts in market for that huge amount he brought up and it is very advisable to join or gather a pump and dump squad so your team earnings will be good since in the trade game the people who has huge capital can earn more profit in trade wars.
6792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PSB] Pesobit, Philippine-based crypto [ICO Live] on: August 15, 2016, 05:29:27 AM

It would be a good coin, I will support it a fraction before the end of the day.

I like to look at how the value of ico constantly increasing.
This project looks very professional
Should I invest in it?
I should invest in today or wait a while longer. Please give me some advice.
The time is running, if your really want to invest in this ico. This is the right time giving 20% bonus is good start if your in double minded just try it first with small amount. And if the ico continue going good then add money and deposit again.

Need a campaign to promote more strongly.
Still a large amount of investors are not aware of the presence of this coin .  you need to hurry, ico is happening and do not add any more delay.
I have invested a small number for you, but I hope to get back to being a resource large enough.
The advantage is 20%, and I can look forward to it for today.

Twitter campaign and signature campaign are now existing to promote the pesobit and also i believe this coin will be buff and became more  valuable  since the devs are in the good track, maybe we cant fell the pressence of massive investors for now but the days for the ICO is long and today is their official opening of their  crowdfunding so we can really determine the price if the ICO is about to be done, i am really confident that this coin will collect more funds and got high value on market trades, so better buy now while its cheap and the bunos is still existing Smiley
6793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 15, 2016, 05:12:41 AM
LeBron James will re-sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers on a three-year, $100 million maximum contract, league sources said, and the three-time NBA champion also pressured the Cavs to finalize a deal to keep free agent J.R. Smith.

That's more than $33 million a year, fellas. Does that make him the highest paid player now? If so, he richly deserves it and more.

Also LeBron James is pressuring the Cleveland Cavaliers front office to get J.R. paid and signed. Same thing like Thompson. J.R. Smith's agent is LeBron James. I mean, at this point you can't really argue with anyone about it since he just won the title for Cleveland, in like 52 years.

He can do whatever he likes and his demand should be given by the management as he is in the position now to do that. Lebron feels he is the best player in the world, and we have witness in the past that because of him blatt was fired, so he is a special guy for the cavaliers.
JR Smith situation can go one of two ways. He can either use the chip as motivation to carry on playing well, which basically just means putting effort into defense. Or he can let the chip get to his head and go back to his chemistry killing days. I've known and seen headcases like JR all the time, and I see the latter happening.
I believe JR will stay in the cleveland cavaliers because lebron will get what he wants, he is the superstar of the team and he make history with his team now, so I think the pressure is on the cavaliers management how to handle the demand of lebron james.
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JR Swish Is Better Than Klay Thompson
JR is an absolute beast on catch-and-shoot situations. I don't know if he's better than Klay at it, but he's one of the best in the league.

Because of the Cavs' star-power, JR's game gets lost in the shuffle a lot of times. He's a great 4th/5th option in any offensive system, great natural athlete, and an underrated defender.

Jr smith plays for now are very lame he is hitting only the baskets when he is firing up but if not he's nothing in the court and i really see many times that hes game is flop maybe he feels his age thats why he dont have he's shooting touch just like before, but on the other hand the team can really rely him when on those crucial time of the game because he can deliver those deadly three point shoot, and comparing him to klay? I dont think so klay is young and he have very high potential to belong to high scoring person on nba history.
6794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 15, 2016, 03:44:17 AM
in my openion about all the rich persons are looking for gambling . because they will not feel more for the loss and they are gamble for his own fun also .
if i will be rich in future then i also do gamble but not for fun i will bett my money with stergy and trick for best profit .
Why would you still look for money when you are rich already, I think your focus is more on getting your self entertain to minimize the stress you are holding on managing your money.

I will still gamble but in moderate ways just to seek only fun and nothing earning feeling string attach and also why i will stop gambling If i had more money to bet? I will just simply satisfy my gambling tantrums but i will make sure really that i will not getting more hook and addicted with it, and i will follow the old saying's that we should do moderate on every things we do, but i found some people that are reckless interms of gambling and those people are totally broke.


When you are rich already then you don't have to gamble anymore, what's the use of your money if you put it in gambling an unfortunately you lose then you aren just wasting.People have no satisfaction in life keep on trying and finding a lot of money even they have more than what they receive.

It is greed that keeps them gambling and going for more. Even if you are rich, if your greed for money is still strong, you will find ways to make more money. And the easiest way to find and most alluring is gambling. Others like investing is too much work. But gambling is too easy to do but can be dangerous. YOu can lose a lot and the worst is you can get addicted. So if you are rich, better avoid gambling.

the reality is we cannot avoid gambling because eventhough we promise that we stop on doing it but still we keep coming back for it and do gamble and gamble again, but the thing we must bare in our gambler mind is we should not stick to it on long hours and we must know when to stop. Greed is the no.1 enemy of the gamblers.


6795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: STRATIS Buying/Selling Thread on: August 15, 2016, 12:40:48 AM
Anyone seeing stratis on 20k sats each once it starts trading on poloniex.com ?


That will be far to be happen but possibilites are still their since big whales are in poloniex maybe the stratis will be bloated for more if the dev decide to add their coin in their.


'snip'
Maybe not 20k but 10-15k for sure, btw Stratis is the most profitable ICO from the last months.

Yeah provably it is, and look at the volume of stratis in bittrex now its about 100btc+ when i check this morning  and thats totally great it is now heading to 5k sats and i believe the pump will go up for more since the dev got nice strategy to advertise their coin and for the roadmap released im pretty sure stratis will be buyable coins in nowadays. i would hold my stratis and wait for much better result.
6796  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoincloud.online shuts Miners down on: August 14, 2016, 11:43:00 PM
What can you expect for them? All of them got similar exit plan excusses, they will telling that they got hack,maintenance etc and etc but seriously thay is the day that they are running. Thats why its better to back off for that one anymore and dont listen whoever offers you to invest with that, hyips are hyips they are ponzi scam and you cannot gaurantee that you can earn right there.

Im sick and tired for any of those since i am a victim of those frauds and thats the reason i am now a hyip/cloudmining hater.  Embarrassed
6797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ♥♦♣♠RIO Olympic Basketball Official Discussion Thread ♥♦♣♠ on: August 14, 2016, 07:55:49 AM
Looks like the United States is whipping butt and taking names!!!!  I had my doubts that we would do this good this year!!  From what I can see I think we are going to take the gold!!  Go USA!

If there is anyone who thinks that France will kick our (USA) butts on the 14th of this month, please PM me and we can play for a friendly wager!!

US offense and defense looks like shit. I'm not sure what the defense is doing. They're overplaying on guys who can't shoot. Fouling way too much. Our front-court are giving up wide open dunks and layups to defend mid-range shots. When the defense isn't forcing turnovers, they're getting picked apart.

They could just be slacking off because they know they are the dominant ones in all the world teams in basket-ball.
Anyone know if they will be sitting any of their players for the finals if they make it this far from what everybody is saying about them lately,

That is true, but it might be annoying to us if team USA show how they underestimate other countries here in Olympics.

I think they will not underestimate them but the perfect words we can call it is they are confident to win and brought home the gold, and im sure that other countries will do their best to compete and do hardwork for more since they dont want their score to be buried down, it can be a shame for them since it will be listed in history if that really happens, but im 100% sure that USA will replinish the barricade who attempts to stop them to get the gold Smiley

Unstopable in USA team to gold medal
during olympic game is play use NBA player, USA untopable to gold medal

They are unstopable because they are at pro level of basketball at look at what lineup what USA have they got superstars on there respective teams and that is unbalance play foe their opponent since its pretty obvious thay they can be beaten by allstar since they got different skill set levels thats why theirs no doubt,debate nor any negative specalution that USA will take this because they got a high potential to nailed their opponent and burried the score behind. They will just give a wink to their opponent if they made a shoot in the basket.
6798  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you trust to bitcoin casinos? on: August 14, 2016, 06:41:35 AM
I do not believe a bit of security and trust a casino website. some casino even like to take all of its own money.

Scammers are everywhere not only in online Bitcoin casinos so we should be very careful when we make a trade online. There are few casinos well trusted in this forum, and they are paying all winners either instantly or after some verification. So we should choose correctly trusted online bitcoin casinos to play. I trust some of them but not all of them.

Yes i agree they are scattered everywhere they are just waiting for the fish to bait,  and its better fot us to select those big casino so we can make sure really that we are playing at the right place at the righ time and maybe we should avoid first those new come up online casino its because they are not well establish yet and maybe they are not provably fair and intend to scam people, aswell as we must believe our own instinc if we fell to play in that site to have fun well let it be we are encharge to our money and let the play run.
6799  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Is this site secure to invest on: August 14, 2016, 05:37:12 AM
bitstorm.biz
I have found this site from internet..
Is this a safe site to invest my bitcoin? Huh Huh Huh

better you stay away from that site. that site in include in HYIP which is High Yield Investment Program. HYIP is high risk, you can get lost all your money in that site. why you are not trying to trading rather than you try that site? but its all up to you, i only can give you my opinion.
Thanks mate I was about to invest small amount like 0.002 btc. If it is trusted It won't be matter of risk about small amount i think.. it says it gives daily profit. please correct me if I am wrong

Dont listen for those people who invited you to invest in hyip sites because mostly of them are referral comm hungry people they just want to get money from your depo and put you on danger to get scam, and dont ever invest on any hyips existing today nor in future because all of them are scam it is being talk some of the threads here, hyips are not best solution or idea for us to earn money so keep away and better hold your btc for a moment untill you find good alternatives investment and tradings is one of the best platform to earn money for that.
6800  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: btc2x Error NaN:NaN:NaN on: August 14, 2016, 04:51:02 AM
Lol, btc2x is a scam anyways, there's no way they can double your bitcoin consistently.

That is a kind of smartness and thing that these guys needs who thinks ponzi is good.

An yeah BTW the site has same design like coindouble.com and other doublers. Seems like html files have beed passed down.

Yeah that is the smartest thing they can think, but why still there are people gambles to invest and hoping to earn with doublers? Its clearly scam and site doing it repeatedly they will only pay at first deposit and the rest they will not pays their investor, so the better we can do really is to avoid and dont make hyip/doublers as a way to earn money online all of them are scam thats why its very wise to listen to those experience one so people will not throw away their money for this said hyip. All doublers are scam.
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