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OP says to mention name of the plant and when you planted it.
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It is days. actually. Only established ponzi sites run for one or two weeks. Some even for months.
To OP, if I send 100BTC to that address, you will give me 120BTC at the end of 24 hours? Be honest.
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ty  Added trust feedback for bitstars.net and monbux. |
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Ok. Will show me naked holding the sign this is specially for Vod on bitcointalk.org
Will post the picture later tonight.
Where is the picture? Doesn't need to be naked.  Do you really think leaving me bad feedback (trust) want speed up things that I am go to post a picture? From my point of view you are not trustful. Do you believe you act like God by giving bad feedback, get real. Hey, you forgot to put the "Yours sincerely, Susi" part. |
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@Dooglus I have checked most of the sites and in most the max bet for roulette is actually a lot less than 21BTC. The variance reduces (ie. you are less likely to get high wins like 2x), but the odds still favor you.
When does SatoshiDice payout the referral balance? Weekly or monthly? I have an affiliate now and I already paid him. But I have not got it in my balance. Do you know when I will get it? The site doesn't mention anything regarding it.
Your reasoning is correct. Probably they are doing so to attract people to their site. The odds are against the owner.
but you have to see that affiliate earnings can be negative too. So, it can cancel out future positive earnings.
For simple calculation take house edge = 1% and bet = 1BTC, affiliate pay rate = 25%
Win chance = 49.5% Win = 1BTC Product= 49.5
Lose chance = 50.5% Loss = 1BTC Affiliate reward = 0.25BTC Net loss = 0.75BTC Product = -37.875
Average = 11.625/2 = 5.8125%
It is only a short term incentive to promote their site.
NGR can be negative or positive. Only the NGR at the end of the month counts.
The people who actually play after being referred by someone is very low. So, the odds are actually in favour of the house as long as less than 17.2% of the amount wagered is through referrals. (17.2 % is for 1% odds.) In theory.
@moreia I have no idea what you are talking about. You have to understand that there are 3 different affiliate systems: based on wagered as in PD, based on NGR and CPM(for very very highrollers). So you are talking about the first or second?
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Very good game. Cool interface and comparatively very low edge. and provably fair. I recommend playing the game. |
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Transferred for watoshi Confirming receipt of free credits. |
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Sure Watoshi-Dimobuto. Have you registered on the site?
yeah. username: watoshi thanks |
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No it's not. This game you can't really "lose" the same way as in minesweeper. You are pretty much "digging for treasure" in this game I never knew that it was different from that game. Anyways someone before said that the house edge was apparently, 9%. Is it really worth it? I think minefield.bitcoinlab.org is much more fun to play in, IMO. paradoxal420 is right. At http://treasurebit.cf/ you don't "lose" the same way as in minesweeper, you don't lose everything at once. At http://treasurebit.cf/ you can lose a litle amount / win a litle amount of BTC without losing your whole bet. And yes there is a small 9% house edge: I will lower this in the future, but need this to compensate the lucky high winnings, I need to create a buffer. Minesweeper even has a higher house edge http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13qbin/is_bitcoin_minefield_profitable/ (+- 10%) and they already created a buffer! So please don't blame me and please don't say other games are better. Thx Your game is unique. 9.09% edge is okay in the beginning. Thx, you are awesome Thanks for confirming it.  |
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Can you credit me a little BTC to test the site?
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No it's not. This game you can't really "lose" the same way as in minesweeper. You are pretty much "digging for treasure" in this game I never knew that it was different from that game. Anyways someone before said that the house edge was apparently, 9%. Is it really worth it? I think minefield.bitcoinlab.org is much more fun to play in, IMO. paradoxal420 is right. At http://treasurebit.cf/ you don't "lose" the same way as in minesweeper, you don't lose everything at once. At http://treasurebit.cf/ you can lose a litle amount / win a litle amount of BTC without losing your whole bet. And yes there is a small 9% house edge: I will lower this in the future, but need this to compensate the lucky high winnings, I need to create a buffer. Minesweeper even has a higher house edge http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13qbin/is_bitcoin_minefield_profitable/ (+- 10%) and they already created a buffer! So please don't blame me and please don't say other games are better. Thx Your game is unique. 9.09% edge is okay in the beginning. |
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1. I'm not going to play roulette if it's -EV.
2. "wins" means "payouts"? or "profits"? And what's the admin fee?
3. I didn't know if the 90% you PM'ed me was super secret or not, so I picked a number.
4. Maybe the issue is with the max bet. Can I bet 21 BTC on a single hand of blackjack?
1. They probably don't know that. 2. wins means payouts of a bet. To be clear : bets - wins = profit. So equation becomes: (bets - wins – bonuses) – admin fee Admin fee? No idea. 0% as given on http://www.askgamblers.com/casino-affiliate-programs/bitstars-casino-affiliates-review (i googled it) 3. 90% for highrollers. 4. idk. Can you check? (edited) |
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please visit these links: The site usually just ban the user and the user usually doesn't make it public. moreia, you are speaking from the customer's point of view, but if you read their policy, they can and will most of the time just ban the user. However, Win88 is an exception https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=810861.0 (no ref winnings paid, because ip was same.) The account had nothing in it. Winnings were withdrawn. So no problem. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=792767.0OP is edited later. It was a contraversial issue. All balance of all his accounts were forfeited and account banned. It was later, after many days, and after much effort, he got it back. Fairproof as moreia knows, his account was held with its full balance because he used a bot which caused none whatsoever damage to the site. So many examples out there. Most are just hushed up. As regards to NGR and Referral based on wager, former is preferable. It depends on the site. PD etc. gives commission based on wager and some other sites, give it based on NGR or Net Gaming Revenue. 1. PD "apparently" has this rule, easily bypassed with a proxy or VPN and a subtle username. Not that hard at all.
2. As for any other site, I'm sure the admins quite frankly don't give a damn if you refer yourself and get 5% of your loss back, they still have the 95%. 1. In that case you must use a proxy no one has used to create an account. Pretty big trouble to do it. There are other ways to track it. Most sites use withdrawal addresses etc. 2. 5%  It is usually 20% to 50% for most reputed sites. It does matter. |
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I think there is just too much going on at this site, so much betting it makes it slow, they should upgrade their server with higher CPU speed!
Stop making useless comments on reputed sites. And pay up all those who you scammed. How did he manage to get just one negative feedback? |
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this is a nice idea but what if u lost say 0.001 BTC
commission would be less that 0.00001
how will i get a % of that, that amount is too small to be withdrawn
Here's what I'm thinking: I deposit 21 BTC, bet it on "red" on roulette. 18/37 chance I win 21 BTC 19/37 chance I lose 21 BTC, but they pay 40% of that back to you, and you give me 11 BTC, say. So I've a 18/37 chance of being +21 BTC and a 19/37 chance of being -10 BTC. My expected profit is 5.081 BTC. Where's the flaw here? They seem to be giving a 40% rebate on a game with a 2.71% edge... idk. There is no flaw I can find.. They get a high roller. Net Gaming Revenue = (bets - wins – bonuses) – admin fee. Is it against site policy or something? I don't think it is. It is the same effect if you clicked on my banner or my signature etc. Average Expected revenue is : 3.746 BTCSo your average expected profit is 3.371 BTC (90%) [not 2 BTC ] 18/37 chance you win 21 BTC
19/37 chance you lose 21 BTC, and i give u 7.56 BTC (90% of 8.2), say.
So I've a 18/37 chance of being +21 BTC and a 19/37 chance of being -13.44 BTC.
My expected profit is 3.371 BTC. |
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this is a nice idea but what if u lost say 0.001 BTC
commission would be less that 0.00001
how will i get a % of that, that amount is too small to be withdrawn
No commission then. Commission can be upto 0.0005 BTC. But, it is still small.   |
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Almost all casinos offer 20 to 50% of Net Gaming Revenue. eg. Bitstars.net, SatoshiBet
FortuneJack is an exception.
Is it still possible to create multiple ref link from one account?
1. Only one link per account - but you can have lots of accounts. 2. If I click the bitstars link in your sig, what percentage of my losses will you pay me? 3. Edit: I checked out their "100% first deposit bonus": they'll double your first deposit up to 0.3 BTC but you have to play it through 35 times, and wagers only count 5% of their value unless you play slots, so that's 700 times, and the max bet is 0.1 BTC, so I'll have to make at least 2100 bets to claim my "free" 0.3 BTC - and I only have 30 days to do it, or they'll subtract the bonus amount from my account, and any losses I made so far come out of my initial deposit... What a warm welcome! So how's their affiliate scheme? If I make a single large bet on blackjack and lose, how much will you give me back? 1. That is a weird policy. 2. Please don't click on my signature. I will PM you a separate link. I am not sure how that link ended up in my signature. And whether it is my ref link. 3. Don't do the bonus unless you can do it. I never did that. Go to profile and and uncheck this if you don't want to receive it: Bonus Settings I don't want to receive any Bonuses PM'd I will use a different link for each person. My existing ref link: Date Visits Registered Users(With deposits) Deposits NGR (net gaming revenue) BTC 2014-08-01 2 2(1) 1 -0.10000000 2014-09-01 0 0(0) 13 -0.07000000 2014-10-01 0 0(0) 0 0.01010000 0 So, if you play with that ref link, we get nothing. idk. I am at a profit from playing there, anyway. |
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How it works:
1) PM me the site you want to play at.
2) I will give you my referral link.
3) You play.
4) You win, you take home the profits, you lose, you get a per cent of your net loss back.
Only available for trusted sites with affiliate programs. In certain situations, in sites that are not transparent, I will ask for proof of loss.
Conditions vary with site and will discuss on PM.
If this thread is inappropriate in any sense, please do inform me and I will lock or delete this thread.
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Seems legit lol, pm me for your primedice ref link please. PM'd |
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Yeah, I didn't mean 1 per cent. Some sites offer 30% of Net Gaming Revenue.
Satoshidice? Yes. I am testing it since i already got a request there.
Do you know how exactly it works? I mean when they will pay? Can I reset my ref income etc?
Where offers 30%? SD was paying (and charging) after each bet, but they changed it so now they pay only at the end of each month I think. The way it works is you get 10% of the action of all the players you refer. If they lose, you get 10% of their losses but if they win you lose 10% of their profits. I tested it out by referring myself and winning a bet, and my main account's balance went negative by 10% of the amount the new account won. They say they're not going to come after you for negative balances, but that they're not going to allow people to abuse the system. I pointed out that I could make a new affiliate account for each person I refer, and just throw away all the ones that refer winning players and keep the ones with losing players. That's probably considered "abuse", but I don't know how they would be able to tell if I registered each one from a different IP address and such like. Note also that by referring yourself you can make a +EV bet: if you win, you pay 1.9% house edge and if you lose you get 10% back in your affil account. That's a +3.1% EV if you bet at 2x, and higher if you bet at higher multipliers, up to around +8.1% for the highest multipliers. Almost all casinos offer 20 to 50% of Net Gaming Revenue. eg. Bitstars.net, SatoshiBet FortuneJack is an exception. Is it still possible to create multiple ref link from one account? I tested it too. My balance shows 0.001 BTC after i lost 0.01 BTC. I expected it to be weekly. Monthly is a bit too long. So, it is better to withdraw everything in the in game balance before the payout if it is negative? |
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