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681  Economy / Economics / Re: Things you should know about Money mindset on: July 28, 2023, 02:33:41 PM
Yes, there are a lot of opportunities to earn money, but our mindset and perspective drive us whether we will jump in and take a risk for more opportunities or just keep staying in our comfort zones and be contented with what we already have.
It depends on the wishes of everyone who still intends to make money in his life, because until now there are still people who consider their comfort zone more satisfied with what they already have so they no longer want to take risks on other opportunities. Even though every opportunity that exists is an opportunity for him to continue to get a better income even though he has to go through obstacles such as risk, but that will not be a big problem for those who still really want to fight in an opportunity to achieve better results.
682  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The beauty of Bitcoin is in use case. on: July 28, 2023, 02:20:48 PM
The more businesses begin to integrate crypto payment in their daily  activities, the more we see real progress regarding the entire concept.

As of today, over 60,000 electric vehicle charging stations now accept Bitcoin across Europe,
thanks to Lightening Network (source: https://mycryptowallet.com.au/news/bitcoin/bitcoin-now-accepted-at-60000-ev-charging-stations-across-europe/). Many businesses are also joining this trend as they realise the advantages offered by this amazing technology. Gradually,  we will see even deeper penetration of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency at large.

This will certainly be better for the development of Bitcoin and the technology contained therein along with a brighter future for Bitcoin from year to year. Because when people from various parties start to realize the uniqueness that Bitcoin and cryptocurrency have, of course Bitcoin and cryptocurrency users will continue to increase because people will want to accept Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in their lives in any way.

And if all of Europe starts accepting Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, whether in companies or other medium-sized businesses, it will make a big impact on the use of Bitcoins and cryptocurrencies that will spread to all corners of Europe and beyond. So that major developments in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency will be increasingly seen every year in various countries in the world.
683  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Salam Kenal Semuanya on: July 27, 2023, 11:04:12 AM
Salam kenal semuanya, nama saya Jacqueline Tjoa.
Salam kenal juga dari saya om, semoga om bisa sangat betah di forum ini dengan terus mencari ilmu lewat tulisan-tulisan yang sudah ada didalam forum ini om.

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Baru beberapa hari yang lalu saya mendapatkan tawaran pekerjaan di salah satu start-up asal singapore, sebelumnya saya bekerja untuk agensi periklanan dan karena saat ini saya akan bekerja dengan perusahaan kripto, saya terpaksa harus mempelajari banyak hal tentang kripto.

Bergabung di forum ini juga atas dasar rekomendasi bestie saya, katanya dia juga ada di forum ini dan dengan bergabung di forum, kita bisa selangkah lebih mengerti daripada orang yang tidak bergabung. Saya harap apa yang dikatakan teman saya itu benar.

Saya sudah membaca peraturan yang ada, apakah ada hal lain yang harus saya baca sebagai noob yang baru join?
Sebenarnya tidak harus terpaksa juga sih om untuk masuk kesini kalau hanya ingin mempelajari lebih banyak tentang kripto karena om sudah bekerja di perusahaan kripto, meskipun akan lebih baik juga sih kalau om mau masuk kesini untuk mempelajari hal-hal tentang kripto. Karena sekarang sudah ada banyak website yang bisa om gunakan untuk sumber bacaan seputar kripto yang mungkin website tersebut juga bisa membantu om dalam mempelajari tentang kripto, salah satunya adalah https://cointelegraph.com/

Rekomendasi dari bestie om tersebut sama sekali tidak salah karena mungkin bestie om telah melihat banyak diskusi unik dan juga menarik didalam forum ini sehingga bestie om mau merekomendasikan forum ini juga untuk om. Tetapi selain itu, om sendiri juga bisa membuat perkembangan pada diri om sendiri supaya suatu hari nanti om juga bisa mendapatkan penghasilan lewat forum ini meskipun om sudah memiliki gaji dari tempat kerja pada perusahaan kripto yang om katakan itu. Dan untuk apa-apa saja yang harus om baca disini, saya lihat teman-teman SFI yang lainnya juga sudah memberikan sarannya disini untuk om sehingga saya pikir tidak perlu lagi memberikan saran yang sama karena om bisa langsung membaca pada link yang diberikan oleh @Ryu_Ar1 om.

684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crypto experienced bloodshed on: July 27, 2023, 10:17:24 AM
I agree. it is like natural selection who the strong and resistant will survive these trying times. True, Crypto is experiencing a bloodbath where the decline in trading volume is also a concern for investors about the liquidity of crypto assets and one more thing if we pay attention to how the role of the media works here with a series of bad news that has emerged that has shaken new investors.

For matters of bad news that can still affect prices in the market or affect the attention of some investors, it is still quite a common thing to happen, but everyone must also see the effect of good news on both aspects because good news is not only able to push prices up, but also able to encourage interest from new investors to enter the market.

Because between the good news and bad news at this point I see that they are almost balanced and have an effect on each other for price and interest in everyone which can be the reason for prices surviving in difficult times, although I don't think that the current time is a difficult time because every investor can still invest according to their own capabilities at cryptocurrency asset prices which are still very affordable in my opinion.
685  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some financial secrets that you know of? on: July 26, 2023, 09:41:52 PM
If there are no big expenses, then there may not be much savings, and in extreme cases it will be possible to sell part of the investment. It may not be good, but bitcoin can rise and we will get more money, and this will only be if we need a lot of money, but often small savings will be enough to cope with current issues.

What you say is very different from some of the cases that I have found in my environment so far, where some people are able to make big savings because they don't make bigger expenses so that any income they get every month can be directly saved with a larger amount than they will use for consumption every day.

But if what you're saying is to save Bitcoin so as not to sell it at a lower price, I think it would be wise for everyone to look at other options if they want to actually hold Bitcoin for the long term and don't want to spend it on a whim to fix a small problem. Because it would be very unfortunate if they had to sacrifice Bitcoin just to solve problems that are not so complicated in their lives.
686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will be the impact of this news on Bitcoin adoption ? on: July 26, 2023, 09:17:38 PM
Link to news
https://finbold.com/bitcoin-now-accepted-at-60000-ev-charging-stations-across-europe/

So, now bitcoin will be accepted as  a mode of payment at 60000 EV stations across Europe. Personally, I feel this is going to have a very positive impact on crypto adoption. More countries will hopefully take similar decisions soon.
That is good news for Bitcoin and it will probably have a good impact on the price of Bitcoin as well, as it will immediately move most people in parts of Europe to buy Bitcoin upon seeing that. But I still think that those who already know about Bitcoin and also have instilled greater affection for Bitcoin, they will not want to just trade Bitcoin for anything. Acceptance of it can have a good effect on Bitcoin, but it will probably only be done by those who do not like to keep Bitcoin long term, so they can just use Bitcoin to pay for other things at any time they want.
687  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why Crypto may go wrong for some people on: July 23, 2023, 03:12:43 PM
Sir, For Point 2. If that's the reason, I agree. But how can it be overcome and not take more victims. please explain @bitmover. So that we, who are just here, don't get caught up in the Batman trap in this digital money world and last you say i also agre Bitcoin may not offer quick and easy money, but probably some use cases may interest him.

For Bitcoin it is not only interesting in terms of its use, but also interesting to make it as a future asset because Bitcoin has been liked by many people so it has provided a good opportunity for everyone to own it from now on. If you are a new person here whose name is directed to Indonesian territory, you only need to protect yourself and the assets you already have from the traps set by other people.

Even though people are usually new to the world of digital money, they are still reluctant to make large purchases because they may not know which cryptocurrency to buy. But you don't need to worry about that, because as long as you are not so trusting and willing when someone asks you to follow something or invites you to do something, you will never fall into the Batman trap that you meant.
688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to $120k next year - by Robert Kiyosaki on: July 23, 2023, 02:47:46 PM
True, I myself consider it only positive. Let them continue to predict it as an additional reference for us.  they have their own TA in seeing this. But. I myself am optimistic that BTC will rise to $ 120k next year like Robert Kiyosaki says, but, slowly but surely.
I think it's not so much a question of whether or not a price goes to $120K in the market, but rather how long we have to wait to see a price that big from now on in Bitcoin. Because I don't think that a price of that size can happen immediately or in a short time on Bitcoin even though the crypto market conditions themselves can continue to improve with more rich people coming into the market.

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Regarding him himself, if someone really thinks this way (the book business) is reasonable and normal. The name is also freedom of speech. So, I think. it comes back to each of us in seeing from which point of view. What is clear, he is still highly respected for both his ideas and opinions.
Actually, everyone can express their opinion regarding Bitcoin price predictions, because everyone also has a different analysis of price matters. Only the opinion of smart and rich and experienced people will obviously be more respected because maybe what he said could be close to being true in the future even though it could also miss what he said today in the future.
689  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think selling your property is better than taking loan? on: July 23, 2023, 08:55:41 AM
I think selling a property is the first step to be able to get money or additional capital, and we must predict that taking a loan is the last solution because we must pay more because of the interest that is usually high, of course not all of our financial plans are successful because there are many obstacles or challenges, but as long as we can focus on the goal we will be successful.
Taking a loan for capital can indeed be the last solution if there is no other solution after someone has tried to find it. But selling a valuable property is also not the first solution for someone who wants to start a particular business, because the price of a property can sometimes increase at a time. So if a person has owned more property in his lifetime, it would be better if he rents out some of the properties that he is not currently using to get business capital. Because in my opinion it is much wiser than selling it to other people at uncertain prices.
690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Reasons to be attracted to Bitcoin on: July 23, 2023, 08:38:13 AM
Currently, there are more than 1000 cryptocurrencies in operation around the world. However, Bitcoin is the most popular in the exchange.Created by Satoshu Nakamoto, Bitcoin has a current market capitalization of several hundreds of billions of dollars.
The popularity of Bitcoin with market capitalization is caused by the increasing number of people who like and like Bitcoin, because they definitely buy Bitcoin on the exchange, even if not in very large quantities. In addition, Bitcoin was also the first to be known by many people in the past before there were 1000 other cryptocurrencies on many exchanges, so Bitcoin's current popularity is a very natural thing to happen.

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The main reason why most people are attracted to Eptocurrency is that it offers huge profits with low investment.Again, if its value suddenly decreases, there is a possibility of loss.
Losses are only for those who released Bitcoin at a low price after buying at a higher price, but those who still saved well enough to see a low price in the market will never suffer a loss. Because they can still wait for high prices to take profits when they want to sell them back into the market, so those who are interested in Bitcoin and profits via Bitcoin are people who are consistent and also full of patience in waiting for profits.
691  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [Diskusi] Legalisasi Perjudian (dengan Poll) on: July 22, 2023, 02:55:04 PM
Saya selalu bertanya apakah masyarakat dan pemerintah  begitu membenci perjudian sampai-sampai budaya yang berbau perjudian dilarang di negara kita.?

Sebenarnya pihak pemerintah bukan membenci perjudian, tetapi pihak pemerintah hanya takut kalau perjudian itu disalah gunakan oleh generasi muda lewat kehidupan mereka masing-masing. Karena negara kita ini bukanlah negara muslim meskipun mayoritas warganya adalah muslim, sehingga pihak pemerintah sendiri hanya berupaya membuat aturan yang sesuai dengan kanun dari daerah masing-masing. Sebab negara kita adalah negara republik yang didalamnya terdapat bermacam kepercayaan sehingga pihak pemerintah harus membuat kebijakan yang tidak bertentangan dengan semua kepercayaan dan budaya yang ada didalam negara. Dan sekarang secara aturannya juga sudah sangat jelas kalau perjudian itu memiliki ancaman pidana, untuk lebih jelasnya bisa baca disini om hukumonline.com
692  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some financial secrets that you know of? on: July 22, 2023, 02:26:21 PM
Actually I have, I went to a financial advisor, not a 50 years old, I don't think the age matters if it's a professional. All I am saying is that we can take much lesson from both expertise and experience, that's why I said 50 years old because I am just curious of how their experience handling their financial. The same as we can learn from both mistake succeed.
People who have reached 50 years of age have obviously had more experience in life and you can't go wrong by going and asking him about how to handle finances in life. Because he will definitely tell you about the failures and successes he experienced when he was young with the trials and challenges he faced in his life. So you can draw conclusions from what he says for you to use in your life even if you don't have to use everything he says because past experiences don't all match up with the present.

Full-fill your wants with interest that comes out of your investments, make money while you sleep. If hard work were to equal to wealth, the workers would be richest.
In this day and age hard work is not enough to make someone rich, because besides having to work hard, one also needs to work smartly to optimize his income in life. Now is the time like that, so everyone must be able to rely on himself to be able to adapt to the environment so that we can work more comfortably to achieve a better income in life.
693  Economy / Speculation / Re: This year is dumping ground for bitcoin on: July 22, 2023, 02:14:04 PM
Many predictions that this year will dumping again, but in my opinion the market will rise and be proven since March the price continues to survive at the level of $ 30k, although many are worried about the global economic conditions that will make prices decrease but in my opinion, the market will continue to rise.
Global economic conditions will not be bad forever, and neither will crypto market conditions. Especially now that everyone has seen how the conditions have been for the crypto market so that it can be said that the current situation has started to improve and also has the potential to continue to get more optimal improvements this year. I'm still pretty confident that Bitcoin's price reading this year will pass $35K as the resistance near $30K is still very strong right now.
694  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why Crypto may go wrong for some people on: July 22, 2023, 01:52:09 PM
Cryptocurrency goes to the wrong way when a user of the coin mismanaged the coins. And also the way you use it will also determine the success story in your life. There is no way you cryptocurrency for gambling and you will come and tell me that you didn't mismanaged you coins. And there is no way you spend your coins for women and you will come and tell me that you didn't mismanaged your coins. My brother there are many things that can at up one bitcoin or cryptocurrency career.
It's quite simple to understand this, because those who use it incorrectly will always end badly and will not get any profit from the coin. I think there is no need to think about those who are wrong in using coins because there are many good ways that you can use to make a profit through the coins that we each have. This is about how it is used only, not about an acknowledgment from someone in how he used the coin to get nothing.
695  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Mengapa anak muda millenial kurang menjaga budaya on: July 21, 2023, 07:35:59 PM
Anak muda millenial banyak yang tidak tau budaya disekitar, kurang perhatian yang serius terhadap kegiatan budaya. Anak muda sekarang menggap kegiatan tersebut merupakan tindakan orang tua.
Padaha sangat diharapkan kehadiran anak muda demi melestarikan kegiatan sosial.
Sebagai ujung tombak masyarakat anak muda harus ikut berpartisipasi terhadap kegiatan kebudaayaan supaya ada yang meneruskan nantinya.
Perlu kita berdiskusi untuk jangka panjang dalam melestarikna kebudayaan.
Bagaimana pendapat kawan-kawan.

Jika saya menanggapi tentang pertanyaan yang ada didalam judul topik om ini, jawaban yang sangat singkat dan juga sangat sederhana adalah karena anak muda sekarang sudah tidak begitu mencintai budaya dari orang tuanya sendiri sehingga mereka terlihat kurang peduli terhadap budayanya sendiri, kecuali ada benih uang yang bisa mereka petik dari hal itu. Jadi tidak perlu merasa heran akan hal itu sekarang karena penyebab para anak muda yang kurang menjaga kebudayaannya sendiri juga ada kaitannya dengan kurangnya pendidikan dalam menjaga kebudayaan yang seharusnya hal itu mereka dapatkan dari orang tua mereka sendiri sejak kecil.

Kegiatan sosial juga sudah sangat minim sekarang ini selama sudah adanya dana dari pihak pemerintah yang dikucurkan kedalam desa-desa, sehingga hal-hal seperti gotong royong sudah mulai jarang terjadi di desa-desa. Kalaupun masih ada, mungkin hanya dua kali dalam setahun yang mana hal tersebut lebih banyak diikuti oleh para orang tua saja, namun saya sama sekali tidak menganggap hal tersebut sebagai sebuah masalah selama lingkungan kehidupan sekitar kita masih cukup tenteram serta nyaman untuk semua orang.
696  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some financial secrets that you know of? on: July 21, 2023, 06:39:09 PM
Hey everyone. What are some of your wealth secrets that you could share with us?

Buying homes with cash and taking loans out on it?

Setting up trust funds in foreign countries and setting offshore corporations to avoid capital gains and taxation? (Sorry tax avoidance for any LEO reading this)

What are your secrets?
I don't have any secrets for that kind of thing right now, because I'm currently still struggling to build a livable house so I have to finish that first before thinking about more plans in the future. So for now there are no secrets that I can share with you except just about continuing to work so you can make money in life, because without income in life, everyone will never become rich. Especially if someone has the desire to buy a house and an offshore company with a large amount of capital
697  Economy / Speculation / Re: $35,000-$37,000 for Bitcoin in 2023 as my peaking barrier, is breakout feasible? on: July 21, 2023, 06:21:32 PM
Oops, get carried away to your subconscious. i think that's fair. a good and sober expectation to say BTC will surpass $35k-37k this year. My instincts say BTC must pass that number before the bullfight begins, Yes. it makes perfect sense.
I also prefer reasonable speculation like you said although I don't often use my instincts to speculate on Bitcoin prices in the market. But seeing as prices are currently still in the $30K range, it's reasonable to expect $35k-$37k later this year. Although I personally actually expect a bigger level than that for this year before going into next year with more different moments than this year.

Currently, the price of Bitcoin has been around for a long time, which continues to be close to $ 30k, so I think to be able to reach a price of $ 35k-37k is very reasonable, we are already in the middle of this year and compared to the beginning of the year, the current price of Bitcoin I think is quite positive with the ongoing trend and it is very possible if you are able to be patient until the end of the year the expected price will be reached, it is very close.
In total, the price is not too far for Bitcoin to reach, but it's not just about whether or not Bitcoin's price level will be reached this year. But we also have to see how difficult it is for Bitcoin to break that level this year because I still see it being difficult for Bitcoin to break that price level even though it is a very reasonable level to expect this year.
698  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Apakah Anda merasa bahagia on: July 21, 2023, 05:46:20 PM
Saya sudah lama tidak masuk forum ini, dan ini posting pertama saya di lokal.
menurut saya kebanyakan orang yang berada di sini berinvestasi di crypto atau sedang mempelajari tentang bitcoin dan altcoin, betul atau tidak?
Untuk kebanyakan orang disini saya tidak tahu apakah mereka berinvestasi atau tidak, karena investasi adalah pekerjaan yang meliputi resiko dan keberanian setiap orang setelah mereka memiliki pengetahuan yang cukup terhadap investasi. Begitu juga dengan hal mempelajari tentang bitcoin dan altcoin, saya juga tidak tahu karena belum membuat survei untuk hal semacam itu disini meskipun saya secara pribadi juga masih mempelajari lebih banyak hal yang menyangkut dengan bitcoin dan altcoin. Dan jika saya boleh tahu, apa yang membuat om bahagian dengan hal tersebut ?

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Dan saya pribadi juga seorang investor btc walaupun btc saya tidak banyak.

Jujur saya merasa bahagia karena bisa berinvestasi di crypto karena seperti yang kita ketahui kalau pemerintah kita mengijinkan masyarakatnya untuk berinvestasi di bitcoin dan crypto, dan saya ingin tahu apakah anda juga bahagia karena pemerintah kita mengijinkan masyarakatnya untuk berinvestasi di bitcoin dan crypto?

Saya ingin mendengar komentar anda teman teman?
Kebahagian setiap orang itu memang berbeda-beda ya om, karena saya pribadi hanya merasa bersyukur akibat bisa berinvestasi di kripto dan saya tidak menganggap kalau hal ini adalah sebuah kebahagian karena masih memiliki resiko didalamnya. Untuk hal pemerintah yang telah mengizinkan para warga negara berinvestasi di bitcoin dan crypto, saya rasa hal itu hanyalah sebatas berita yang cukup menyenangkan untuk dibaca oleh mereka yang belum berinvestasi pada bitcoin dan crypto. Sementara bagi mereka yang sudah berinvestasi dalam jumlah banyak di bitcoin dan crypto, tentu mereka akan merasakan sedikit kebahagian atas adanya berita tersebut, apalagi kalau mereka sudah mendapatkan keuntungan yang cukup lumayan lewat investasi mereka pada saat ini.
699  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: No social media is safe on: July 20, 2023, 09:14:09 PM
On social media, fraud often occurs. Don't trust strangers who message you and tell you to do anything. You have to be careful, and don't trust strangers easily, especially when it comes to money.

The essence that I can pick up here is not to let us be easily influenced and also more easily told by people we don't know. The point is like that, yes, because everyone must have certain goals that he keeps secret from everyone so that his mission might fail immediately if we ignore his orders along with these influences. Because cheaters are smart people who usually use their words more often to make everyone fall for what they say, so ignoring it would be far better than continuing to care about their mission which will ultimately harm us.
700  Economy / Economics / Re: Always ask for POD form from your bank on: July 20, 2023, 08:54:21 PM
What a wonderful information. I'm hearing this for the first time. I think most people are not aware about this. Banks will never tell clients about this because of their selfish interest. That's why I love this forum. Alot of things has been learnt from here and I will continue to learn more.

If you want to learn more through this forum, you should also be able to learn about logic along with things that naturally happen. Especially in the case of banks, because banks also have special reasons when they keep things secret from their clients so that they are not suspected by clients and can still be trusted by their own clients. Actually this kind of thing is also not much different from the goals of business people in this world where business people also will not reveal all the processes and things they want to achieve to everyone.

Because if all things are disclosed to the public by the bank or the businessmen, the path they take will be easier for their opponents to read in terms of business. So they are likely to find it difficult to succeed when there are more of their opponents who already know their ultimate goal in this matter, so it is only natural that banks keep something secret from their clients in order to achieve their desired goals very smoothly without anyone suspecting them or in the form of other disturbances that might come at any time without them knowing.
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