I am skeptical. Maybe I have trust issues, but take a look around on this forum and you'll see scams everywhere.
And it's not just online. Take a look outside and you'll see people trying to cheat anyone they can just to better themselves. My world is not a friendly place. From the sound of it, neither is yours.
I'm skeptical, but that doesn't mean they're not lying/cheating.
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How can I/anyone trust you?
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You have a job and a side job but you need a $6 loan? Yeah. Sure, I'll help you out. *cough*
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Mijn advies: Koop voor E500 - E1000 aan BTC. Ik denk je dan meer rendement haalt dan met minen van BTC. LTC ziet er wat betreft mining iets beter uit, maar er is de dreiging van s-crypt ASICS. En als die uitkomen dan kan je gpu in de prullenbak... Minen is leuk, maar het is erg moeilijk om er winst uit te halen. Als je het als hobby doet, prima natuurlijk ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Lees ook: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224015.msg2354422#msg2354422 (engels)
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I guess then that we have different opinions on what poverty is. I know people have and have had it worse than myself. I've been lucky in the past to at least have a place to call my own and some internet, the computer was actually gifted to me and it was on it's last legs so mining was even risky. Poverty to me is exactly where I was, and now? Now I'm floating trying to keep my head above water and it's not happening. The community is very harsh about people who are in these circumstances, they feel as if people like myself are looking to scam them or other's out of money. That's not the point, I have no idea to scam anybody. I have no desire to, but I would like some help. Making 30 bucks every other week on a sig campaign isn't going to rebuild my life fast. It might not rebuild me at all. But I sure as hell don't think it's fair that people are holding large sums of this and I can't even rub 2 pennies together. Free internet/roof or not, that's not fair. It's not mine. I want something that's "mine" I want to be independent. I don't want to rely on others, but I can't do that by myself right now.
I'm not wealthy either, but I definitely do not consider myself poor. I don't feel that it's unfair for some people being (extremely) rich *if* they have gathered their possessions in a fair way. Everyone that mined large amounts of bitcoin in 2009 and sat on them until 2013 cashing out at $1000+ dollar got their wealth fair in my book. Anyone setting up an exchange, holding large amounts of other peoples bitcoins and then taking them for themselves did not gain their wealth fair. I don't judge on having (or not having) something as fair. Gaining or losing something can be though. Also I don't consider myself a victim and I don't feel entitled to other people's wealth. Though if anyone out there wants to share some wealth with me (instead of with say, skottiejay) I will not complain either ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Poverty in the US has clearly been redefined. The traditional definition holds true outside the US.
I guess so. In the city I live there are people in slums without running water. But they do have television, some even satelite. I guess it's hard to define poverty. We live in a weird world.
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But that's poverty. I tried with my little atom notebook to mine and it was just NOT profitable.
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The rich will stay rich and the poor will continue to stay poor.
You could spend $250 on a notebook. You were on the internet. You had time to play around with bitcoin. once again, you completely missed the point. in 2011, I was not in the position to do anything but make sure that every living expense I had was spent on making sure I still had a roof over my head, insecurities or taking risks or not, when you aren't sure if your going to be evicted, or if you have running water the next morning, that's when you don't tend to take internet risks on things you don't know much about. And if I remember correctly, which I usually do. My little Dell Atom Notebook was getting 20mh/s while everyone had their Radeon xyz 20932902's and I was maybe making 0.1 CENT a day. So no, I definitely wasn't making any money off of bitcoin, and no that's not what I would consider rich at all. And you miss the point of my post. You managed to pay for all your basic needs and a notebook plus internet. Now consider how many people cannot pay for their basic needs. Then reconsider stating that you live in poverty. In my opinion you may not have been well off, but you were not in poverty.
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But that's poverty. I tried with my little atom notebook to mine and it was just NOT profitable.
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The rich will stay rich and the poor will continue to stay poor.
You could spend $250 on a notebook. You were on the internet. You had time to play around with bitcoin. You had food, water, education. You were getting your medicine so you also enjoyed healthcare. Did you actually at any time fail to pay for any of your basic needs? Many people in the world would consider you rich. On the side: mining bitcoin in 2011 was not profitable? Look how much the coins you (could have) mined then are (would have been) worth now. It wouldn't have earned you money in 1 week. But the returns over 2 years would have been significant. Yes, there is a risk. People generally don't earn money without significant effort or taking risk.
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I'm guessing that eveytime a company starts accepting bitcoins it is linking bitcoin to a product/service that has value. Everytime this happens bitcoin becomes a bit less speculative (Hey, a bread costs 1. So 1 is worth a bread. No way I'm paying 10 for it and I will buy 10 breads for 1 any day).
That could be a stabilizing factor on bitcoin. And a stable bitcoin is less interesting for speculators. So they're hopping to something more speculative for a while.
I'm not a specialist in any way though, so just my 2 cents. (though tomorrow they may be worth 100 times more or less!)
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It's nice to see some fun element added to the faucet. Thanks.
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Would be good to see something different happen ? Someone correct me but if there is no blocks for 75 minutes doesn't this mean nobody in the world can securely move their BTC from one wallet to the next. Surely Im misunderstanding because that's really naff hopefully Im totally wrong ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) It means that it took up to 75 minutes for some transactions to get an confirmation... Which is arguably very long.
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Did all of you provide Qoinpro with your address and contact information? If not then you're in violation of their terms and conditions: You must provide QoinPro with valid contact and residence information and may not impersonate or misrepresent your identity https://qoinpro.com/info/termsAlso what is this business model that you've been teasing us with? You're giving out very minor daily payments. Like others said before me it's not worth it. And obviously you're going to do something sooner or later that will generate you income. I just hope it won't be at the expense of everyone that signed up in good faith. Are the users (going to be) your product?
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It really does seem that the spread of Bitcoin is continuing. Very encouraging.
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Eh! Good luck for you mate! Bring her some chocolate and you will be fine ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Bitcoins are a girl's best friend.
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And the one before that was only 4 minutes apart... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) That's what will happen surprisingly often. Assuming that the difficulty is set 10% lower than the actual hash rate (it's probably nearer 7% now) then we'll see no blocks found in an hour about once every month. If the difficulty exactly matched the hash rate then this would happen about once every 17 days. It's not a bug, it's not anyone doing anything malicious, it's just the way that mining is set up to work: http://hashingit.com/analysis/27-hash-rate-headachesThat article clarified a lot for me. Thanks for sharing it.
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When this happens it can mean only one thing! Miners are on break(actually they are watching porn) and all the mining gears stopped mining! It's very probable someone with a very high % of THS just stopped their gear for some maintenance! Everything will return back to normal soon ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Let's start the baseless rumor mill then. KnC had a power outage at their farm? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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It seems weird to me too. Can I now assume that the next difficulty increase will slow down now?
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Just get a girlfriend guys it's usually cheaper and you could get your laundry done in the process lol
until gweedo turns 18! Hats off to whoever necro's this thread 6 years from now.
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I am the official, unofficial bitcointalk blockchain, output, input, mining, verification person. I need to verify you. I have done this before, I am a pro.
This! Won't do business with you unless bitcointalk verified! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Luckily I missed that little storm.
Since there have been no flames in the topic as of yet I reckon it's "safe" for now.
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I've heard about this to but what paypal will probably do is make up their own prices so 1bitcoin will b worth like 1 dollar or something like that ripping people off
I'd be buying from paypal at that rate.
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