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681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy every dip! on: November 15, 2023, 11:07:40 AM
Sometimes our approach towards investments could be our greatest fall because when you have a predetermined negative mindset about a certain investment, you definitely will approach it wrongly and may possibly make mistakes you may have to learn from the hard way.
Talking about approach I believe the phrase "HODL WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE" should be a guide when investing in Bitcoin.As it would go a long way in preventing trauma which may be caused by possible fatal losses especially when investing in shit coins. Bitcoin still remains the OG of the crypto space so it's never a bad option to invest in it.
Actually in something like this I still think differently from what hodl said what you can afford to lose because I don't hold back to lose even though maybe in this case the intention of some people is that when we hold back and invest we must also be prepared to lose because bitcoin is still at risk. But in my opinion, such a notion sounds like investing in bitcoin seems to be gambling because it assumes that when the worst happens then we will lose the investment we have but keep in mind that this is an investment and even if there is a worst case scenario where bitcoin has decreased we also do not lose anything (in the bitcoin investment we do) if we do not sell it even though in terms of value it may shrink but we will never lose as long as we do not let go. Therefore, I do not really agree with the phrase "hodl what you can afford to lose" because I hold not to lose but I invest and still hold bitcoin until now because I believe they will have better progress.
In addition, assumptions like this also contradict the strategy that I do because I am in bitcoin with good intentions and a strategy that until now I think is right so what am I preparing to lose even though the risk of crashing bitcoin is still there but that does not mean we lose the bitcoin we have.
682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 14, 2023, 09:45:07 PM
Lewandowski is starting to get sharp again, but Barcelona must improve performance on all fronts. Especially the defense line which has been a little fragile lately. Luckily they have a goalkeeper like Ter Stegen.
Yes, Barcelona should work more on performance to upgrade the team. It is true that Lawandoski is a better striker, but now Barcelona should also work on him to provide some assistance from the midfield. Guys, I noticed from about 5 matches recently that in the absence of Frenki De Jong, Barcelona has shown extremely poor performance, and even tactic had the effect of Frenki de Jong, but at the same time I noted that Lawandoski also had an effect. Hua de Jong's absence. Because De Jong, Pedri is the one who mostly raises his assest to aim Lawandiski, meaning he mostly passes it to create chances.
It's not as easy as one might think for Barcelona. For some fans or observers now it is indeed fixing with a team overhaul must be done but with the current situation of Barcelona which even every season must reduce their financial supply to recruit new players because they still have problems in their finances and are still monitored by FFP it will be very difficult because in the end all they can do is go back to looking for free players or bring more young players from their academy.
I think Barcelona's problem now is probably still not much because in the end for next season if Lewa is still unable to perform like in his first season and some players like Joao Cancelo and Felix return to their respective clubs because the duration of their loan is over then this could be a big problem for Barcelona.
683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 14, 2023, 09:21:54 PM
But indeed at this time with a score of 2-0 it was also very enough to bring them to the most comfortable position at the top of the standings with a difference of 2 points from Juventus as the closest competitor.
This is a positive thing for Inter only that they must try to correct last season's mistakes for now. The previous few seasons Inter have always been like this even last season they were 7 points clear at the top but this sudden drop in performance always makes the situation worsen by itself for Inter so to minimise things like this from happening this season then Inzaghi must be more focused and more serious in organising rotations for Inter so that they are not only focused on one competition and must be more able to do consistency in every match that is run.

During the last season, Inter Milan had an unstable performance and they lost some points while we were expecting to see a much better performance from this team. With the three points they got from Frosinone, now Inter Milan got 31 points which is good but still Juventus is following them with 29 points in the Serie A table.
Actually for the problem of consistency in Serie A it is not something strange because it is not only Inter who experience such things but indeed several other clubs are also the same and when talking last season maybe only Napoli were the most consistent and even then they in the last few matches at the end of the season did not go very well.
Inter are also experiencing the same problem because they are also not entirely good at every match they do, it's just that in this case they are certainly still making improvements in several sectors to improve their performance.
At the moment they are still playing very well but for consistency things like this are unpredictable and indeed for a continuation like this we still have to wait for the end of Inter Milan whether they can improve compared to last season (for consistency) or still the same as before where they have to lose a few matches so that their points can be followed by other clubs in the race for the Scudetto.
684  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and misinformation on: November 13, 2023, 02:21:25 PM

The worst sort of misinformation is that some think Bitcoin will make you richer and assume that it was created as n investment medium but they need to understand it was created for financial freedom and later people use it as investment and Bitcoin has it's own uses. Because those who thinks it just as an investment medium will never understand why was it even made. only proper education and awareness can stop these misinformation.
Indirectly, actually for this I do not consider that this is a mistake because after all it is indeed an investment medium as well as when saying that bitcoin can be used as a tool to make you rich it is also not a mistake, it's just that in this case it is not too precise when saying that this will provide instant wealth.
In perspective this is just an assumption of some new people who are here but indeed I think almost everyone who is here will assume the same thing at first but when their understanding is greater about bitcoin when they learn more then indeed words like this will be reduced because after all this needs a process in learning and getting to know more about bitcoin because when they start to understand more about bitcoin then their views on bitcoin will be different depending on how each perspective is.
685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 12, 2023, 09:59:23 PM
The game is almost over for Inter.
Majestic goal for DiMarco and Inter back in the lead of the League
The match is over already. There is no change in the score. Inter Milan won with 2 goals, meanwhile Frosinone scored 0 goal.
It is very obvious that Inter Milan dominating the match, they even make more than 20 shots. I even expect that they could score 3 goals at least, but there are 2 goals only. Lautaro Martinez failed to score goals today, there is no additional goal to secure his position in the race of the top scorer of Serie A this season.

Yep. 1 goal made by Federico Dimarco, 1 goal made by Hakan Calhanoglu. It is enough to maintain Inter Milan position in the top of Serie A stadings. They are leading with 2 points now.


But indeed at this time with a score of 2-0 it was also very enough to bring them to the most comfortable position at the top of the standings with a difference of 2 points from Juventus as the closest competitor.
This is a positive thing for Inter only that they must try to correct last season's mistakes for now. The previous few seasons Inter have always been like this even last season they were 7 points clear at the top but this sudden drop in performance always makes the situation worsen by itself for Inter so to minimise things like this from happening this season then Inzaghi must be more focused and more serious in organising rotations for Inter so that they are not only focused on one competition and must be more able to do consistency in every match that is run.
686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 12, 2023, 09:43:06 PM
What a really shame on Union Berlin that they going this hard down this season and lost again about Leverkusen.
For sure its not easy against Leverkusen but i guess not long and we will see some new coach at Union Berlin.

Union is getting worse now because in 11 matches they only got 2 wins, the rest ended in defeat including in this match.
The mentality of the players must be disturbed after a series of defeats and indeed until now do not know what happened but they are really very bad when compared to the previous few seasons.
This is clearly a problem for them because after all they were one of the dark horse clubs in the previous few seasons and seeing their performance today they seemed to lose the spirit in their football and only became a small club that was used as a goal barn by their opponents.
Whereas last season was the biggest achievement in their club and it would be a shame if last season they were in the Champions League zone but this season they have to get out of the bundesliga but indeed with the current situation when Union cannot improve themselves then I do not guarantee they can escape the threat of relegation now.
687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 12, 2023, 09:07:20 PM
Every moment spent watching the game between Chelsea and Manchester city was really worth it as I enjoyed every moment from the first half to the second, it was full of thrills and so much of exciting moments which were really worth the the time spent watching the game.

That's fair enough because although this week there were a lot of surprises such as Tottenham and Newcastle who had to be willing to lose points and their performance did not match expectations or Brighton who won a draw but Chelsea's match against Manchester City was one of the best matches this week.
The 8-goal drama is clearly very attached now especially with Chelsea's situation which is still not too erratic in terms of performance against Manchester City, which is indirectly the favourite to win in this match so that when a draw is obtained this will invite a lot of reactions to occur.
It's totally worth it and the reason we all love the EPL and think it's the best league for domestic competition is because this kind of tension happens every week.
688  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: PNS & ASN on: November 12, 2023, 08:47:32 PM
Menjadi PNS atau ASN adalah impian umat dengan berbagai kalangan,tapi bagi saya yang terlahir dari keluarga B ajah,nyatanya banyak kemungkinan gak akan bisa mengikuti seleksi PNS dan ASN ini😊 makannya saya gak pernah ikut seleksi PNS dan ASN🙏
Saya rasa untuk masalah stabilitas ekonomi atau strata ekonomi yang terjadi didalam hal ini tidak tentu menjadi jaminan karena pada akhirnya jika memang mau bersungguh-sungguh mungkin saja nasib nya disana dan semua masih bisa dalam strata ekonomi apapun atau mungkin pendidikan manapun karena melihat sekarang dan yang pernah saya alami karena saya juga pernah berada di ranah itu sebelumnya walaupun memang mungkin nasibnya tidak terlalu mendukung Cheesy tetapi untuk PNS atau ASN itu masih bisa untuk segala golongan bahkan dari tingkatan pendidikan strata SD pun ada jika memang mau dan serius tetapi terkadang ada faktor lain yang terkadang banyak orang yang ragu untuk mnejadi pegawai negara karena memang selain dari nasib tentu ada privilige lain yang terkadang menjadi masalah seperti dalam masalah uang atau dorongan dari orang dalam (untuk beberapa kasus) karena terkadang orang dalam itu justru sangat berpengaruh untuk saat ini di sistem yang sekarang terjadi karena memang sudah rusak sehingga ketika kita tidak memiliki privilage seperti itu serta tidak memiliki modal yang cukup maka memang sulit karena pada akhirnya sekalipun KKN seperti ini dilarang tetapi untuk di lingkungan seperti ini sudah menjadi rahasia umum.
689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 12, 2023, 04:41:00 PM

In this match, Vini and Rodrygo were great for me, Carvajal, Lunin, Kroos and Valverde also really stood out in this match. If Real Madrid players come back on fire like this they will win the Laliga title this season. Currently Barca is trailing 0-1 from Alaves, a goal scored by Omorodion in the 1st minute. This will be an interesting match to watch, will Barca be able to make a comeback?
Vini and Rodrygo were trusted more in this match and they were able to prove that they are still worthy of Madrid with a brace for each player.
Jude is still unavailable as he still has fitness problems so he was in the stands for the game but the Madrid players played really well in this game and that's what I expected.
Apart from Vini and Rodrygo who answered the criticism of many people who think Madrid are difficult without Jude in the squad I am also very happy with Lunin's performance in this match because he really played very well and the saves he made were also quite brilliant.
Also, I was pleased to see the two iconic celebrations of the legend (Cristiano) come back from Rodrygo and Vini in this match even though most people think we (Madrid fans) still can't move on from Cristiano but I really like to see these celebrations come back for Madrid.
690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 11, 2023, 09:26:04 PM
Now maybe every season we will still be faced with the drama of Mbappe and PSG with their contracts because indeed things like this will always continue to happen until there is clarity.
Mbappe leaving is actually a certainty in my opinion because despite what PSG have always done to try to keep Mbappe it still cannot be realised properly even though they gave an ultimatum like before but that method will still not be effective apart from those who have to sell Mbappe.
PSG should be more reluctant and let him go now even though this is detrimental but one of the best ways is to try to sell him quickly before he leaves for free.
The truth is that a lot have already been said concerning the Kylian Mbappe and Paris Saint Germaine transfer saga but I don't think it'll be a subject of discussion again after next summer transfer window because reports has it the the Frenchman is Real Madrid bound but if for any reason Real Madrid fails to sign Mbappe next summer, the France national team captain is definitely gonna leave the French champions and probably join an English Premier League club.
Kylian Mbappe wants to play in a club that'll help him win the UEFA Champions League trophy as well as the the Balon D'or award
Indeed, we all know that for Mbappe and Madrid even now the two parties still have not spoken further about this but Mbappe's transfer is believed to be to Madrid not even just us who are not too expert in matters like this but almost all experts also seem to still have the same speculation but on the other hand this is also still no clear certainty because as long as some of the parties concerned such as PSG, Mbappe and Madrid are still silent, clarity is still not to be obtained, it's just that there is greater hope for Madrid if speculation now really happens.
As for the EPL, it is also good but surely if Mbappe goes to the EPL, the rivalry between Mbappe and Haaland will be hot to replace the era of Messi and Ronaldo whose era is almost over.
691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 10, 2023, 09:50:31 PM

But indeed with all the limitations and still not good relations between Simeone and Joao it is possible to bring this player at a price of 40 million only indeed for Barcelona this is still a little difficult because however seeing the current situation for them actually the financial condition is still unstable regardless of anything even last season after Xavi brought several players like Lewa and Raphinha they experienced a setback again and even had to cut again and again money for player transfers and that price even though it can still be forced but it will be difficult.

Joao's performance at Barcelona is actually much better than he was at Atletico or Chelsea but it is also not a guarantee because in the end now Barcelona must think of several options whether to try to gamble again by bringing players but their financial condition is getting worse or try to find potential young players in their La Masia like Lamine Yamal who is currently starting to be given a lot of playing time.
Well and don't really know what caused the fued between Simeone and João Félix that would make the manager to loan him  to several clubs for 2 seasons now, but one thing I'm sure is that Félix would never want to play for Atletico Madrid again not after he's been welcomed into his dream club and has blended well with both the manager and teammates.

 And with his performance on the pitch this few months he's played for the club I got a feeling that they're going to retain either for another loan season or buy him completely cause I think Xavi has grown confidence in him and  sees him as part of the future plans of Barcelona, adding Félix into the club completely would be a very great decision, it's something Chelsea would've done but they decided to allow him go back to Atletico Madrid, I don't think Xavi would want to make same mistake.
But indeed the dispute between Joao and Simeone is inversely proportional to the attitude given by Atletico because we know that last season Joao officially extended his contract until 2029 before finally he was loaned to Barcelona so that even if he leaves at this time from Barcelona then indeed he will definitely rejoin Atletico until someone can bring him to a new club with a suitable clause.
Currently after Ansu left Barcelona for Brighton, Joao always gets the main place but it is indeed temporary because after all Joao's home is Atletico and when he still can't make up with Simeone then indeed this will still be a little complicated for Joao's own future.
692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 10, 2023, 09:31:24 PM
It's like Mbappe is trapped at PSG, he doesn't get the opportunity to play for another club, because PSG always prevents him from playing in other leagues by setting a price that is too high to be accepted by other clubs who want to sign him.
The situation is currently in Mbappe's hands, his contract expires at the end of this season and he is yet to sign a new contract, neither does he intend to extend his contract, thus it isn't in PSG's hands this time around, it is Mbappe's turn to decide if he wants to leave the club or not, and i think he is going to leave. From all indications, Mbappe is going to leave PSG to Real Madrid for free, he has to take this next big step in his career and give himself the opportunity to win the CL, which is a major trophy he has to win in order to get the opportunity of winning the Ballon D'or.
Now maybe every season we will still be faced with the drama of Mbappe and PSG with their contracts because indeed things like this will always continue to happen until there is clarity.
Mbappe leaving is actually a certainty in my opinion because despite what PSG have always done to try to keep Mbappe it still cannot be realised properly even though they gave an ultimatum like before but that method will still not be effective apart from those who have to sell Mbappe.
PSG should be more reluctant and let him go now even though this is detrimental but one of the best ways is to try to sell him quickly before he leaves for free.
693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 10, 2023, 09:12:59 PM
Speaking of Felix, he is only on loan for a year and there is no permanent option in the current loan because of the condition of Barcelona which is still struggling financially and Felix's current high price so that for next season's striker if Lewa finally leaves, Barcelona will indirectly experience a crisis because Felix will also definitely return to Atletico because his loan period expires, although maybe they will start trying to consider something else for this player if it is proven that he is still very good in Barcelona's attack.


Barcelona will not even try to make him as a permanent transfer. Atletico puts non sense price for the garbage player like him which is unbelivable. Im thinking about felix's price shall be under 40m. It's caused by his horrible performance when playing in any of clubs. His performance in barcelona is not that good too. He was also getting small salary from barcelona. This is making the situation even worst than before. I wonder where barcelona will get money to buy the new players.
it doesn't have good income but the only way through selling the players to be used to buy a new striker. Im not seeing a possibility to recruit a new player at this moment without selling the players first.
Currently, the value of Joao is still not reduced much as he is still at the price of 50 million


But indeed with all the limitations and still not good relations between Simeone and Joao it is possible to bring this player at a price of 40 million only indeed for Barcelona this is still a little difficult because however seeing the current situation for them actually the financial condition is still unstable regardless of anything even last season after Xavi brought several players like Lewa and Raphinha they experienced a setback again and even had to cut again and again money for player transfers and that price even though it can still be forced but it will be difficult.

Joao's performance at Barcelona is actually much better than he was at Atletico or Chelsea but it is also not a guarantee because in the end now Barcelona must think of several options whether to try to gamble again by bringing players but their financial condition is getting worse or try to find potential young players in their La Masia like Lamine Yamal who is currently starting to be given a lot of playing time.
694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Simple Reason Why Bitcoin is not Money on: November 09, 2023, 09:59:37 PM
When Bitcoin first came out back in 2009, I can totally see why people were skeptical of it.  I mean, this weird internet money that isn't backed by any government or physical asset? Yeah, it seemed pretty out there.  but over the years Bitcoin has really proven itself. and  Nowadays, it's taken seriously all over the world.  Major banks and corporations are getting involved with crypto.  Even governments are trying to figure out how to regulate it.  So all those old concerns people had don't really apply anymore.  

Actually, when talking about scepticism towards bitcoin it not only happened from the beginning they were created but even today it is like that because it is indeed a sense of scepticism towards bitcoin especially for beginners who are new to bitcoin then scepticism must remain.
So in this case it is important to learn as a whole when we are still not sure so that it will create a new understanding of bitcoin and as a choice whether bitcoin is really worth it or not to be used as investment material.
I think it is important that in the end we must realise that bitcoin is still bitcoin which indeed even though it has now begun to be looked at by many people but if we talk about the current human population, bitcoin adoption and developments that occur are only a small part of the overall population so it is quite natural that the problem of scepticism will continue to exist. But that's not a problem for me personally because at the end of the day it's their right to be sceptical about bitcoin and it's not going to be a problem for me because I'm just going to continue to do what I want to achieve in bitcoin according to my beliefs.
695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 09, 2023, 09:44:47 PM
But I feel Barcelona might not endure his injury crisis for too long before they start seeking for a replacement, except he gets back very fit and start helping them score immediately he recovers, cause his absence is really affecting the performance of  the club,
Barcelona signed Felix, I think it is one of the way to prevent the crisis of striker. Unfortunately, it seems Felix is still not in the level of Lewandowski, he is not enough to replace the role of Lewandowski. So, I also guess that Barcelona will try to sign a new striker again. They need a striker with the same level as Lewandowski.
Speaking of Felix, he is only on loan for a year and there is no permanent option in the current loan because of the condition of Barcelona which is still struggling financially and Felix's current high price so that for next season's striker if Lewa finally leaves, Barcelona will indirectly experience a crisis because Felix will also definitely return to Atletico because his loan period expires, although maybe they will start trying to consider something else for this player if it is proven that he is still very good in Barcelona's attack.
696  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀-Sportsbet.io-🚀 Official Partner of Newcastle United Football Club on: November 08, 2023, 10:18:19 PM
My impromptu bet (when the match) had already started did not go well for the 1 multi I did.



hah I really didn't like Rashford's red card in this Manchester United match because if only he didn't make a silly mistake maybe the result would have been better and my multi bet went well.

But even so there were very good returns from Inter, Bayern and Madrid which I made as multi in another bet.
697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Do You Plan to Make the Most of Your Bitcoin Investment Before the Halving? on: November 08, 2023, 09:48:18 PM

  • This month, I'm selling off my car and I'll start using the train for commuting to work or any other essential place. Therefore, unless it is absolutely necessary, my social life is going to suffer for a little while. This delay of gratification is worth it.
  • I didn't renew my gym membership. I purchased some dumbbells and barbells to start working out from home. The money supposed to be spent on the gym membership will be used to buy more Bitcoins.

Even though bitcoin is a good thing, it does not mean that you should bet everything on bitcoin because you must remember that this is not gambling but an investment.
Even though it is an action that you think is quite right and you have no problem with it but it would be better if you do not take a big risk in this case.

I recommend doing DCA because indeed it can be a very good option to continue to do but if in the end if it is indeed the thing that you think is best in the buying strategy according to your wishes then indeed it is up to you but do not let investing in bitcoin can interfere with your activities and only focus on buying bitcoin alone because we must remember that this is an investment option and not gambling that thinks Halving will be profitable even though indeed from some previous bitcoin history halving has always been a benchmark.
698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 08, 2023, 09:24:26 PM
The other game Manchester United were already 2 goals up and Hojlund looked like a different person in this game Cheesy
The last time that the Manchester United striker Hojlund scored two goals in their Champions League game Manchester United still went ahead to lose the game. Manchester United have already lost a goal advantage as they conceded before the break, now they have to struggle not to be scored another goal, and  it will be more difficult now that have just ten men to continue the game with Rashford sent off. Manchester United will loose this game, is what I think because Rashford who has been sent of is a very important player for the team, and he usually has an influence that leads to goals. Manchester United will struggle to defend and struggle to score another goal.
Now the outlook is a little gloomy for Manchester United because after Hojlund's brace they now have to be willing to reply to Copenhagen's 2 goals at the end of the first half.
And indeed the conditions became even more difficult after the loss of Rashford from the field after receiving a red card from the referee.

Even though I hope for more things especially this must be used as a victory for them to be able to maintain hope in the hunt for second place in the group phase, it's just that playing with 10 players now I think it is complicated for Manchester United and they could have lost this match.
699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 08, 2023, 08:38:39 PM
Well we started the week with a surprise result although not as big as that of yesterday night of Barcelona.Napoli could not win against the weakest team of the group Union Berlin and they got their first point I think tonight Union Berlin.They are not doing well in the Bundesliga and Napoli could not take profit of their form,again showing an inconsistent team that Napoli is during this new season.

Real Sociedad is already qualified I believe for the next round after the win of tonight and they are leading the group.Let's see how these other games end up but as I said we already have our first surprise result for the night.

It turns out that if Real wins today, it will officially qualify. Braga will retain theoretical chances to beat Napoli, but they look extremely slim even if Real beats Napoli for the second time and “helps” Braga. In fact, Napoli lost nothing today.
By the way, after this round, the number of teams that have qualified will increase quite seriously and, unfortunately, there are many “random” games ahead of us where the favorites will not try. Thank God we have group F!  Grin
The score was now 1-0 in favour of Madrid.
Brahim Diaz, who has not been seen on the pitch for a long time, answered Ancelotti's trust with a goal some time ago and it looks like the injured Jude should now be put to good use by Brahim in this match.
In addition, I saw a player who had just extended his contract (Camavinga) back in a different position, and indeed Nacho is also now positioned at centre-back which makes me quite happy with some of the rotations Ancelotti made in this match.

The other game Manchester United were already 2 goals up and Hojlund looked like a different person in this game Cheesy
700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and misinformation on: November 08, 2023, 08:12:31 PM
I wouldn't deny that in my early days of investment, I really was unconvinced by the presentation i had about Bitcoin, which I took it as one of these fraudster trying to milk the general public as mmm did, but with time, after doing some research and finding I discovered how misinformed I was about it.

I can confidently say that your experience is definitely not unique because a lot of people including myself initially dismiss Bitcoin as a scam because we don't understand how it works or what it's for but once we take the time to learn about it, we often change our minds. The truth is that we don't need to force anyone into bitcoin. It's something that everyone will understand and eventually adopt if they can dedicate out time to learn about it and how the system operates. It's normal thing to assume something as scam in the first experience but it is not normal to conclude and affirm your assumption without making more research about the thing in question. This misinformation are being disseminate by people who are still new in the system and believe that bitcoin is like a ponzi or get rich quick investment.
In the end, all lay people who do not know about bitcoin will definitely have some kind of wariness about bitcoin and that is a normal thing and even when talking about experience, I previously even became one of the haters who moved many people not to be in bitcoin even though it came from work demands that did require me to convince people against fiat and banks but the hatred grew when bitcoin continued to rise and rise so that I did not like bitcoin. But now it is reversed where I who initially hated it was in bitcoin and became one of the people who invested in bitcoin.

All have such a process but in the end when we really study seriously then we will definitely choose bitcoin as one of the options for investment and I am such an example.
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