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681  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 15, 2015, 09:18:23 PM
I would prefer saving rather than investing. Being a Average income guy I don't have much to invest directly as investment requires huge capital so at present would prefer to save money in some savings plans and once i have good fund in hand will go for some good investment products.

Investing doesn't necessarily "require" a huge amount of capital.  You can invest smaller amounts, it just needs to be significant enough to offset any transaction fees you incur.  So it wouldn't make sense to invest $100 in stocks if the trading fee is $10, but you also don't need to be a millionaire.

If you're able to invest and make something like a 5% return, then it's worth doing, as savings will not produce that type of return, and will likely not even cover inflation.
682  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 15, 2015, 06:15:44 PM
Are they not 2 sides of the same coin?  Investing is saving, and saving is investing...
Spending or Saving would be a question...

Assuming that saving is keeping your money in a relatively risk-free (low return like a savings account or GIC) investment, and investing would be taking on risk, for a potential larger return, at the risk of taking a loss.

For savings, are you keeping up with the rate of inflation in what you eventually want to consume?

Spending vs. Saving is another legitimate question, the precursor to what to do with your savings.
683  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 15, 2015, 05:09:35 PM
Thanks for the link.

For the countries that exclusively use the USD, that would be a government decision, but for the countries that use the USD in parallel with their local currency, I wonder if that is a government decision or the general market losing faith and using USD (especially countries that have a large tourism industry).  When I went to Cambodia, it seemed as if the people actually preferred using USD, but that preference seemed to be based on their own confidence in the USD and not necessarily the government.

That is true that USD is most powerful and accepted currency across the globe. But it can be replaced by the bitcoins if the Government shows their interests in accepting bitcoin as a currency as a mode of payment you cannot ignore the fact that bitcoin is not getting the support that it should get.

Well anyone that wants to support Bitcoin is free to do so, so it is getting the support it should be getting.  The government is very slow with integrating anything, and adopting a new form of technology isn't something the government does.  I got audited by the government last year, and had to send FAX or MAIL back to them.  They did not even accept an online submission or e-mail.  If you cannot e-mail supporting documents, do you really think the retarded giant is ready for Bitcoin, the misunderstood volatile cryptocurrency that is not even mainstream yet?  It will need to hit the mainstream ahead of government as they are the slowest to adapt to anything, especially when it takes away the power than they work so hard to obtain.
684  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 14, 2015, 11:24:41 PM
The sharing economy is just going to continue to grow, and governments will be challenged to understand and manage its implications while embracing its benefits. However, governments will be at a significant disadvantage if they wait too long and newer technologies and markets will have already been developed that do not follow traditional models. Think of the following: Uber is the world’s largest taxi service and owns no cars. Airbnb provides lodging yet does not own real estate.

How will local governments adapt to these new ways of doing business that are disrupting traditional business models? All we know now is that governments are a long way from even contemplating and accepting this new reality.

No government going to willingly give up its sovereign power to issue money.

It doesn't have to be willing. It may be forced.
There are some governments which have adopted the US dollar as their currency, to encourage investors to come in. Bitcoin can play a similar role.

I know USD is accepted in other countries, but which countries are you referring to where the government adopted the US dollar?

see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_substitution

sometimes some countries use parallel currencies or substitute their native currency for their economy

Thanks for the link.

For the countries that exclusively use the USD, that would be a government decision, but for the countries that use the USD in parallel with their local currency, I wonder if that is a government decision or the general market losing faith and using USD (especially countries that have a large tourism industry).  When I went to Cambodia, it seemed as if the people actually preferred using USD, but that preference seemed to be based on their own confidence in the USD and not necessarily the government.
685  Economy / Services / Re: Coinomat.com - Signature Campaign! [STARTED] on: May 14, 2015, 01:04:48 PM
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686  Economy / Services / Re: [1 OPEN SLOT] Rollin.io Signature Campaign - Earn up to 0.16 BTC Per Month! on: May 14, 2015, 01:02:54 PM
Hi, I would like to join this campaign.

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Please confirm my eligibility and I will update my signature.

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Accepted, but as 311 mentioned nothing will be updated until you change your signature. Once you do so, let me know and I'll update the spreadsheet.

Thanks - Signature has been updated.
687  Economy / Services / Re: [1 OPEN SLOT] Rollin.io Signature Campaign - Earn up to 0.16 BTC Per Month! on: May 13, 2015, 05:28:18 PM
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Please confirm my eligibility and I will update my signature.

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688  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 13, 2015, 05:24:41 AM
The sharing economy is just going to continue to grow, and governments will be challenged to understand and manage its implications while embracing its benefits. However, governments will be at a significant disadvantage if they wait too long and newer technologies and markets will have already been developed that do not follow traditional models. Think of the following: Uber is the world’s largest taxi service and owns no cars. Airbnb provides lodging yet does not own real estate.

How will local governments adapt to these new ways of doing business that are disrupting traditional business models? All we know now is that governments are a long way from even contemplating and accepting this new reality.

No government going to willingly give up its sovereign power to issue money.

It doesn't have to be willing. It may be forced.
There are some governments which have adopted the US dollar as their currency, to encourage investors to come in. Bitcoin can play a similar role.

I know USD is accepted in other countries, but which countries are you referring to where the government adopted the US dollar?
689  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 11, 2015, 06:24:45 PM
I'm not sure if the government is afraid that bitcoin will take over fiat.  You will still need to pay taxes in fiat, which will be a portion of every transaction - sale/income/expense.  Fiat will have a place in the economy because it's what people trust, regardless of its fundamental flaws.

Yes, as long as you need to pay taxes in fiat, there will always be a need for fiat. But think of a country with a huge trade deficit. If Bitcoin becomes an established international currency, they will be happy to accept bitcoins which can then be used to bridge this deficit. If dollars are welcome in places like Argentina, bitcoin will also find a place.

Not sure what you mean here.  The US has been in a trade deficit since 1975, and I'm not sure how bitcoin would change that.  They actually want to remain in a trade deficit, because they are able to consume more than they offer indefinitely, which is not what "trade" is about.  The US exports fiat currency and imports actual tangible products.  As long as exporting countries don't mind, the US doesn't ever need to balance the deficit in trade.

I believe bitcoin has the best chance in developing countries with devalued currency, low corporate presence and regulation, but high internet adoption (Philippines, Indonesia, etc.)
690  Economy / Services / Re: Coinomat.com - Signature Campaign! [STARTED] on: May 10, 2015, 05:10:24 PM
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691  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 09, 2015, 04:40:15 PM
Whenever you see the government and official institutions showing interest about Bitcoin is because they want to rip it off and use features of it for their own evil intentions. They for example want to take the blockchain and adapt it to the fiat scam, which would basically be a big catastrophe. Don't fall for their traps.
But theres some government officials that have good intention to bitcoin. Maybe they want to merge or to adapt to fiat money so that the people will have a unity. Dont think a negative to the government officials they vote us because we believing them that they are good person and have a good intention to the people.

Is that really how you see the government?  Benevolent public servants that care so deeply about the interests of its citizen that their own personal interests and career come second?  That is how it should be in an ideal world, but that is definitely not the way it is working today.

Think of teachers, whose top priority should be educating kids right?  Even in a slow economy, when they don't get the union negotiated raise they are looking for, they don't hesitate to go on strike and hold a sign instead of teaching the kids they are supposed to care about.  Not trying to talk badly about teachers in particular, but I think it's pretty naive to think that a public servant is here to serve the public.  A public servant is here to keep a job and make a living.  Serving you is priority #2.

Bitcoin goes against the foundation of many economies, that are currently maintained with monetary expansion, so it wouldn't make sense for the government to welcome bitcoin.

Yeah that's true. Can't afford to trust the Government in my country. Government of countries are against the adoption of bitcoin as a currency as they view it as a threat for fiat money. And they surely know that if accept bitcoin today as a currency it will take over fiat money.

Same is the situation in my country. I Don't understand why we vote such corrupt and criminal politicians who are just busy in improving their living of standard and their personal benefits comes first and after that if they have spare time they will think of country and society.

It's very difficult for good hearted, intelligent, empathetic people to make it in politics.  First off, the majority of the population is unable to differentiate between honesty and dishonesty, intelligence and stupidity.  So in that world, if a dishonest person paints a more attractive political picture through promises that will never be realized, and slanders their competition, many people fall for it.  People that are apathetic/sociopathic are able to lie day in day out and still go to sleep at night, and they just need to say whatever they need to get votes.  The main concern is being elected rather than improving and evolving society.

What motivation does the cream of the crop of society have to go into the government?  They become professionals, make much more money and stay out of the public eye.  The government gets the leftovers of talent.

I'm not sure if the government is afraid that bitcoin will take over fiat.  You will still need to pay taxes in fiat, which will be a portion of every transaction - sale/income/expense.  Fiat will have a place in the economy because it's what people trust, regardless of its fundamental flaws.
692  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will never again be priced over $300. on: May 07, 2015, 03:25:21 AM
As others mentioned, $300 is arbitrary, and if it represents your confidence, what impact does your confidence have on the value of bitcoin?

Bitcoin has a value that you're representing in USD.  Do you know the history of the USD and its value over time?  If the USD is inflated each year, if Bitcoin's real value didn't change, it's nominal value in USD would inflate.

When the price of gold goes from $35 to $1200, do you think that the value of gold has increased or that the value of a USD has decreased?

I'm not making a call on the price of Bitcoin because I don't know, and the truth is you also don't know; you just have an opinion.
693  Economy / Services / Re: Cryptovpn.me Signature Campaign | CLOSED ended 30 APR 2015 on: May 01, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
The https://cryptovpn.me signature campaign is now closed it will not be continuing for May. Thank you to everyone that participated.

   

Sorry to hear that.  Hope the campaign was successful for you while it was running.  Are you planning to bring it back in the future or is it being closed down for good?

We might in the future, we knew going in there was a risk.
But this only resulted in a few sales and we can't afford to just payout with no turn around.


Once we get some more sales in we will talk about reopening the campaign.

Thank you everyone who showed support and joined the campaign.

That makes sense.  You and Carra23 seem like great guys and ran this campaign very well.

All the best to you in future endeavors.

I'll keep your signature on for another couple weeks until my membership status changes Smiley
694  Economy / Services / Re: [5 OPEN SLOTS] Rollin.io Signature Campaign - Earn up to 0.16 BTC Per Month! on: May 01, 2015, 02:05:21 AM
guitarplinker, I would like to join this campaign in May (I will be a member in 2 weeks).

I thought I'd reach out now as there is only 1 member slot open Smiley

Feel free to review my post history and let me know.

Thank you sir.
Sorry, but we don't reserve slots in this campaign. When you become a Member, apply here if there is still a slot open and I'll review your posts then.

Okay thanks for the info.  Will do.
695  Economy / Services / Re: [5 OPEN SLOTS] Rollin.io Signature Campaign - Earn up to 0.16 BTC Per Month! on: April 30, 2015, 10:09:23 PM
guitarplinker, I would like to join this campaign in May (I will be a member in 2 weeks).

I thought I'd reach out now as there is only 1 member slot open Smiley

Feel free to review my post history and let me know.

Thank you sir.
696  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: April 30, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Whenever you see the government and official institutions showing interest about Bitcoin is because they want to rip it off and use features of it for their own evil intentions. They for example want to take the blockchain and adapt it to the fiat scam, which would basically be a big catastrophe. Don't fall for their traps.
But theres some government officials that have good intention to bitcoin. Maybe they want to merge or to adapt to fiat money so that the people will have a unity. Dont think a negative to the government officials they vote us because we believing them that they are good person and have a good intention to the people.

Is that really how you see the government?  Benevolent public servants that care so deeply about the interests of its citizen that their own personal interests and career come second?  That is how it should be in an ideal world, but that is definitely not the way it is working today.

Think of teachers, whose top priority should be educating kids right?  Even in a slow economy, when they don't get the union negotiated raise they are looking for, they don't hesitate to go on strike and hold a sign instead of teaching the kids they are supposed to care about.  Not trying to talk badly about teachers in particular, but I think it's pretty naive to think that a public servant is here to serve the public.  A public servant is here to keep a job and make a living.  Serving you is priority #2.

Bitcoin goes against the foundation of many economies, that are currently maintained with monetary expansion, so it wouldn't make sense for the government to welcome bitcoin.
Hahah why do you hate the government? You have an anger with government. So you mean that government are not worthless or theres nothing doing right? If you mean that what will happened to your country if there no government? Think of that.

I don't hate the government.  I don't really hate in general.  I don't agree with a lot of government policies here.  Also, pretty much any private organization can offer a better level of service for lower cost than any government organization can.  The government effectively monopolizes industries, do not allow competition, and then force you to do business with them, whether you want to or not.

I would prefer minimal government to no government at all.

Government policy decisions were the cause of the 2008 financial crisis (mortgage securitization, sub-prime lending), government bailed out banks, government enables war funded by debt.  IF you have a benevolent government, then its great, but we don't have that, and in that event, I prefer minimal government.

Just look at drug policy alone, which is probably the biggest failure in policy ever.  They took a small issue and turned it into a massive global issue, forced the creation of a black market, where conflict resolution needs to be done outside of the law/courts/trial/police and basically dealt with violence.  You have people in jail for selling or using drugs, to which there is no victim for the crime.  You have privatized prisons that are deep in the lobbying game for the government that need people in jail.  You basically have the police and prison guards dealing with people that have a legitimate health problem with drugs, instead of doctors or physicians.  This is all a result of pathetic and corrupt government policy, which doesn't benefit the citizens, but rather a select few that profit from it.  I can go on about a lot of other miserable failures in policy that are still not being corrected. 

There is a riot going on in Baltimore at the moment, because black people are sick and tired of being beat up and killed by police officers when they are not initiating violence.

There are some services government provides which are fine, but private organizations can always do a better job, because they need to compete for customers, where the government will simply make competition illegal and force you to do business with them.

Here is an interesting quote that I like, and find a lot of truth in: "There are no political solutions, only technological ones; the rest is propaganda"
Then think to yourself - what problem has the government solved? or rather what problem have they made worse from their intervention?
697  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 30, 2015, 09:19:34 PM
A back catalog of bills and (parking) tickets is what's killing me now. Making a conscious effort to still save something though. Anything.

Yes parking ticket is the most painful things. Altough its just a few dollars but if everyday you collect it may be it will be worth like 1btc. And it is such a waste that parking ticket. Wonder how are we going to miss that parking ticket. It will be worth of saving that money or invest it in bitcoin  Grin
If you compute your parking tickets how much did you paid? Compare if you commute how much it will cost in the wholr month? I think that you more save by commute than have a own car that have a gasoline (you need to buy it). What do you think?

Actually parking ticket can be saved but the gasoline is my own expenses that I need to pay every week so if you ask me to compare gasoline and parking tickets of course parking ticket is nothing but gasoline I need it get get some more money so I can buy bitcoin and that is a must. So you can't even compare my needs and things that can be put aside
Okay but it more expenses if you have a own car. I think commuting is the best way to save. Because buying gasoline every week is an another payment.

another way to save money is not using a car, but a bicycle(no need to spend too much on it), which is also good for your overall health

Yes its true we need to save more without using a car and it will safe a lot from that gasoline but in my country there are no parking for bicycle and it will waste my energy before I go to work  plus I will be cover in sweat
We are talking about how to save not your looks when you are going to work. If you dont want to ride a bicycle, commute so that you will not have a sweat.

But with our look like that people that working with ur or cooperate with us will look down to us then he will start their doubt to us and we will lose that client for sure. So the look is important. But that is not the one I want to talk about. Im talking about my vehicles which I can't change it to others if I do still want my job here

If you're going at a steady pace (20-25km/hr) and not going uphill, it shouldn't drain your energy to bicycle.  It gets your blood circulating and can feel energizing.  I feel great after a bike ride.  The sweat is another issue, as well as bad weather conditions.  You'd probably need to bring in a second set of clothes to work.

It's a shame that people at your company look down on people on bicycles. 
698  Economy / Services / Re: Cryptovpn.me Signature Campaign | CLOSED ended 30 APR 2015 on: April 30, 2015, 04:05:48 PM
The https://cryptovpn.me signature campaign is now closed it will not be continuing for May. Thank you to everyone that participated.

   

Sorry to hear that.  Hope the campaign was successful for you while it was running.  Are you planning to bring it back in the future or is it being closed down for good?
699  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: April 30, 2015, 05:04:21 AM
Whenever you see the government and official institutions showing interest about Bitcoin is because they want to rip it off and use features of it for their own evil intentions. They for example want to take the blockchain and adapt it to the fiat scam, which would basically be a big catastrophe. Don't fall for their traps.
But theres some government officials that have good intention to bitcoin. Maybe they want to merge or to adapt to fiat money so that the people will have a unity. Dont think a negative to the government officials they vote us because we believing them that they are good person and have a good intention to the people.

Is that really how you see the government?  Benevolent public servants that care so deeply about the interests of its citizen that their own personal interests and career come second?  That is how it should be in an ideal world, but that is definitely not the way it is working today.

Think of teachers, whose top priority should be educating kids right?  Even in a slow economy, when they don't get the union negotiated raise they are looking for, they don't hesitate to go on strike and hold a sign instead of teaching the kids they are supposed to care about.  Not trying to talk badly about teachers in particular, but I think it's pretty naive to think that a public servant is here to serve the public.  A public servant is here to keep a job and make a living.  Serving you is priority #2.

Bitcoin goes against the foundation of many economies, that are currently maintained with monetary expansion, so it wouldn't make sense for the government to welcome bitcoin.
700  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is an imaginary concept, but humanity is enslaved by it on: April 29, 2015, 03:56:04 AM
I pay 6-7%  comission on everything I buy, that is 3-4% to Mastercard, 2% to the bank and another 1% sometimes the merchant to validate the transaction, so sometimes it can be even 10% (+ 25% VAT of course as the government likes to steal too).

You, as the cardholder, pay Mastercard a commission when you make a purchase?

Is that normal in your country?

In North America, I haven't heard of a credit card that charges the cardholder unless they have a running balance - but that is an interest charge rather than a commission.  The vendor pays the commission here.

People often pay an annual fee. It all depends on which bank you go through. With my MasterCard, there is no annual fee, but when I was younger and building my credit, I couldn't qualify for a MasterCard without the fee.

Yeah that's true.  The basic credit cards usually have no fee.  The cards with higher rewards and protection usually do have a fee, but the bank waives the fee if you maintain a minimum balance.

I think my card is otherwise $99/year.  I'd have a very different view on it if I was incurring fees.  As it stands, I pay no fees and receive 1% cash back on all purchases.
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