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6801  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: It seems like it's the end for bounties on: May 06, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
For some projects, a bounty campaign is needed to advertise and attract the audience to the project. Indeed, now there are very few ICOs that give bounty hunters money, even if you receive tokens, you can wait a year or more before entering the exchange.

It's too much to ask. The bounty hunters need to wait for one year, just to encash their $10 or $20 worth of reward? That's very unfair and unethical. A far better idea would be to give a small part of the bounty (maybe 10% or even 20%) as immediate payment in the form of Bitcoin or Ethereum. But as we know, the promoters are hell bent against this idea.
Indeed.
I was kinda surprised about what you said that it can take a year while I think that some would reach at least 3 months. I guess some projects have a long roadmaps, and I am actually quite relieved that I didn't waste my time to bounties that took a lot of months like you mentioned.

People shouldn't make bounties as their full-time job, it isn't just worth to handle all the liabilities that a person can have at his/her home.

yeah, it should not be your primary job, but it is unethical from bounty announcement team to skip the rewarding, or delay it indefinitely, on the other hand, it is risky industry, so do a bit of analysis prior to joining bounties, at this point it seems the bounties are simply not worth it
6802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: May 06, 2020, 12:41:29 PM
Sky sports through a twit reported Manchester United have requested all their players abroad to return to England
Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1257963312576331777

Good stuff, should mean a return to first team training is imminent for them. I already saw that Wolves are going back on Monday 11th.

It could be just a request for their player to come back and do some test wether they are infected or not. If no, then they will proceed to train for matches or some other precautions. Well it is still a good news and If thing goes accordingly then we might see some matches to be played at the end of this month ( the latest possible ) .

agree, it could be matches next month, but without audience IMHO
season should be completed, if their is enough conditions for everyone to be safe, it is better than froze it on this point, or cancel it
6803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: May 06, 2020, 12:39:10 PM
~snip

Yeah, I agree, and this is nothing new. Media have been always like that, and won't ever change, you know, in media popularity conts as money, and so whatever gets eyeball and eyeball would bring them dollars even if it is uncalled. And in addition, even the individuals always make weird stuff in the net, on whoever gets popular at a current time. They exaggerate everything, they pull claims that sometimes doesn't even have a single connection, make a story and all. The bad thing is that sometimes, the community gets easily swayed by such false information without even checking the real narrative behind.
It can even destroy one human being for a false article and they could still get away from it.
Just remembered that photographer who claims he own Lebron's photo and is trying to sue Lebron for grabbing it just to post in IG.
The heck!

Facts, they are missing this for most of the times and they are already trying input just theories in newspaper.
It is madness and yet they still want press freedom.  Grin Funny broken system of the world.


yeah, indeed, press coverage is doing a lot of false news / speculations, and you can not help it
and this sudden pause in all sport competitions made a great terrain for any news, just to have some coverage, you have to publish something, even when there is no NBA at all
6804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you keep a spreadsheet for you wins and losses for tax purposes? on: May 06, 2020, 12:36:38 PM
i do not keep a spreadsheet with wins and losses, think that it is not required in my country
although, i know that i do not have surplus in my gambling, usually just losses in bets made for fun
6805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 05, 2020, 07:43:53 PM
Yes teams started training group of ~6 players with ~20m distance between each player for some teams, but full group training, which is important, will not be possible before 18 May. Overall it is good as a start and hopefully by June resuming games will be possible!

Pandemic is still out there and I think there will obviously be some protocols to be followed in training as well as games until the virus is gone for good. It is very important to follow the protocols otherwise it could be affecting games again and players and viewers don't want to see that happen.

as time goes on I become increasingly suspicious. Today I read that is in France the first confirmed case is from 27.December'19. So, just think how many matches have been played since then in full stadiums.
what when the matches start, ~20 meters distance, how?

yeah, you can do that for the audience, but how to play football and have 20 meter distance between players, would be some new football i think Smiley
nevertheless, do not expect that football will be played with audience this year in Italy, and no matter cases existed in December in France, it was just a few, maybe irrelevant to sport (people that do not visit stadiums), what happened in Bergamo on Atalanta - Valencia proved that it is important to keep stadiums empty for a while
6806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Refereum — Influencer marketing on the blockchain on: May 05, 2020, 07:34:29 PM
dead this project, even from their platform, nothing is paid for watching streamers after each campaign 6 season has passed none received due tokens

I think that the campaigns and the new season are not that attractive anymore.
There used to be guaranteed prizes when reaching a certain rank, now you get for each 1 Point = 1 Ticket in Giveaway.

Sorry to hear you didn't like the points display of that season. You're not the only with feedback, and we try to listen often.
As always, I try to update you all often, this time with this Refereum Transition Update:
https://blog.refereum.com/refereum-update-may-2020/
In there we talk about a rebuild, going offline as we re-evaluate, and what might come next. Reach out to us with team@refereum.com with any comments or questions.

thanks for the update, i have received your e-mail, and feel sorry that a project like this one is going down, or i misinterpret all the information?
could not say that i was involved last year, but was with a project from the start of 2018 (season 2) and feel sorry that RFR is going down, hope that you will make it with re-build plans
6807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Refereum platform will be offline since 16th May on: May 05, 2020, 04:44:50 PM
One of my favorite gaming altcoins, RFR, which is around 600 position on CMC, and trading on a few platforms, Bittrex included is probably going out of business
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/refereum/

i just received an e-mail that their platform will be offline since 16 May, and that all funds on the platform shall be withdrawn or spent on available games, they are planning to develop better platform, but also keep an option that new platform could not be developed in foreseen future

i did not saw major influence on token price, but will be probably in days to come, sad news since this was a good platform for game addicts to stream their gaming experience for money
6808  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Halvening nagradnjača on: May 05, 2020, 04:38:38 PM
nisam uspeo da nadjem u pravilima, ali pretpostavljam da je takmicenje predvidjeno za hrvatske gradjane? ili je otvoreno za region, mada ne vidim kakvu bi vi korist imali od toga Smiley
6809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Michael Jordan’s gambling history revisited. on: May 05, 2020, 10:30:48 AM
, but what do you’ll think is there a possibility that he visits online crypto casinos to play blackjack as a hidden user?.


of course it is possible that he was a hidden user in some casino, but we could not know that, if he does not confess, do we?
6810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Mayor Wants to Re-open Casinos. Thoughts? on: May 05, 2020, 10:29:05 AM
The mayor's a her.

Somehow, the mayor has to find an elusive balance between the health and economy of her people. Opening up casinos is a risk. That's for sure. But if that is what it takes for the economy to remain alive despite the presence of this pandemic, then they will have to do it differently. Gamblers and casino staff may be required to wear masks and face shields and strictly practice physical distancing.  

[snip]. Your contributions isn't quite different from mine as we're all saying the same thing. Locking down everywhere for the fear of contacting the virus isn't the perfect solution to some extent.

If the situation stays this way for several months most city might come out of the lockdown not been able to keep the economy of their city running. Which will even be more deadly than the virus itself.
I supported what you said because despite the global lockdown issue the cases of the virus still increase which proof the lockdown not to be the perfect solution of the pandemic disease and if the lockdown persist there is chance for the economy to collapse and it will take years before it can be resolve.
The casino should be open but giving some social distance rules and restrictions which will prevent the spread of the virus.

The challenge will be to get most people or everyone to really practice the social distancing with other safety measures. Guess if there is some sort of reward and punishment for obeying or violating the safety rules, more people people will comply without the need for microchipping  or getting people to wear hard-to-remove wearable things.


it is one thing to open the casinos, and another to keep social distancing and more than usual cleaning in the casinos, we should be back to normal, but with better precautions that earlier, people should not stop to wash their hands at least 20 seconds now, and should keep distance, it is important to not to go into second wave of covid
6811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Bibox Exchange? on: May 05, 2020, 10:26:46 AM
Anyone know anything about this exchange?  I check and see some coins are listed on here but how is this site compared to say binance?  Is it safe etc?
In my own opinion I've never heard any bad thing about bibox, the exchange is pretty good and safe to use but binance is marginally better, they aren't on same categories, not even close

agree on this one, it is like comparing low-level city car with a mercedes E or S class, you cannot compare the two, but you can use both, one is for city driving and other for luxury trip, same you can use bibox with really small amounts and binance for greater amounts, but only for exchange, keep most of the holdings on your wallet with private key and keep the key in a safe manner
6812  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin TA (Analiza) on: May 05, 2020, 10:19:41 AM
... nekretnina ili plac je uvek dobra stvar kojoj ne pada cena ukoliko je na pravoj lokaciji

Istina. Samo za nekretninu ili plac na pravoj lokaciji moraš imati prilično love. Nekome je 10.000 eura životna ušteđevina, a s time može kupiti plac ili kuću negdje gdje su cijene bagatela. Samo što tamo nitko ne kupuje pa ne možeš prodati ako trebaš izvući lovu. Pogotovo ako samo dio od tih 10.000 eura hoćeš staviti u nekretninu.

Mene je neki dan cimala jedna ponuda gdje je lik prodavao neku zemlju (pašnjak) u Arizoni. Neka stara indijanska zemlja, gdje mos stavit šator i uzgajat ovce. I to za male pare cca 2000 dolara.
Al eto, kolko god me to cima da bi uzeo, neznam dal ce mi to ikada trebat...

Pod pretpostavkom da si u Hrvatskoj, kako bi uopće stekao vlasništvo nad tom zemljom? Stvarno sumnjam da si planirao odletjeti u Arizonu. Zar se kod njih može postati vlasnikom zemlje preko Interneta?

I da, sorry što oftopičarim Grin

Mislim da se to više ne rješava direktno već preko odvjetnika, ,bilo u Hrvatskoj ili Americi,  nebitno.
Dakle,  nađeš odvjetnika,  platiš ga,  pošalješ mu punomoć i potpisani ugovor poštom ili jednostavno emailom i on dalje sve odradi za tebe.
Svi ozbiljni investitori tako rade i ne zamaraju se previse tim "praktičnim " detaljima a ugovore im sastavljaju stručnjaci.
Kod nas je još bolji business biti dobro politički "umrijezen " i znati kada će se neko zemljište prenamijeniti iz poljoprivrednog u građevinsko u GUP-u i onda kupiti što više zemlje i to jako jeftino od "naivaca " koji je se želi riješiti a onda je prodati skupo kada zemljište postane građevinsko i naglo dobije na vrijednosti. 😂😂

Sad već riskiramo sa cijelu temu zaspamamo offtopicom... Zar nije da se zemljište mora prenamijeniti iz poljoprivrednog u građevinskog ako se GUP promijeni i zemljište se nađe u građevnoj zoni? I onda se treba platiti neki postotak vrijednosti novog zemljišta državi. Ako se ne varam, tako je bilo prije 10-tak godina kad sam se raspitivao o tome.

Pa ne mislim da smo u offtopicu jer se nadovezujemo na prethodne postove o ulaganjima a sve se to lijepo "veže " na btc analize i profit od btc. 😀
Da,  za prenamjenu zemljišta iz poljoprivrednog u građevinsko treba promijeniti GUP ali već i "vrapci na grani " znaju kako se to radi kod nas 😂😂
A kod kupnje zemljišta,  koliko znam,  plaća se samo porez.
A bez takvog "insider" infa bolje je crypto zaradu ulagati u nešto "transparentnije" što ne ovisi o politici i političarima.
Ja bih uvijek dio zarade ostavio u cryptu a dio uložio u zlato,  životna i mirovinska osiguranja,  fondove. ..
Crypto analize su zanimljive ali jako je teško pogoditi "dugoročne trendove " pa je uvijek bolje dio portfelja držati van crypta.

s obzirom da je off-topic bila je ona tema u ulaganju u nesto osim zlata, pa se to moze prebaciti tamo, ako postoji nacin

a slazem se da je deo portfolia van kripta nesto sto se mora, ovo je suvisne rizicna aktivnost da bi i veci deo ustedjevine bio tu, jednostavno nikad ne znas sto se moze desiti i da sve propadne, ali ne ono 30% pa da se svi zale, nego da nestane
6813  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Day dreamer! on: May 04, 2020, 01:48:35 PM
It is impossible to think that some people are still hoping to get rich doing bounty campaigns even when the handwriting is clearly on the wall. When will you wake up from your dream?
 ........ Who told you that devs are working to make you rich as a bounty hunter
 ........ Who told you that team are putting their heads together to create wealth for you as a bounty hunter.
The era of getting rich doing bounty campaigns is gone, wake up from your dream and engage yourself in so many other potential sides of cryptocurrency.
Seriously, it is funny to still see some people asking questions like " Is bounty campaign still profitable" when all that you could get in your last campaign is pea-nuts. It's dawn guys, wake up. Don't hope for too much.

it is not about getting rich, but there is a job for everybody, developers are good in making software, and bounty hunters should be good in spreading the word, but if you accept all application from bounty hunters, and there is no selection, of course you cannot have marketing budget to provide decent reward for everything that is submitted and we are in the situation that there is no quality provided by bounty hunters, or the quality is hidden behind a lot of spam and copy/paste, and that is why rewards are too low
6814  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin wallet - pitanja, preporuke, ostalo on: May 04, 2020, 01:10:29 PM
To je dio moje strategije ograničavanja poroka.


interesantna strategija, kako god razmislio o tome, vrlo upotrebljiva za ogranicavanje trosenja, i ja imam slicne strategija cuvanja kljuceva na odredjenim USB-ovima koje retko koristim, pa imam vremena da razmislim o trosku pre nego sto ga napravim, ali ovo sa paper wallet-om nisam razmatrao, odlicno
6815  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin TA (Analiza) on: May 04, 2020, 09:58:42 AM

A dalje moras shvatiti da "dobar" portfolio mora biti siri nego samo crypto i u ovoj ("corona") situaciji gledamo u pocetak najvecoj recesiji nase generacije (EU Q1 2020 je -4% sto je - bukvalno - nevidjeno u istoriji; do sada je rekord bio 2009. sa -3,1%). Pogotovo pazljivo pratit cijenu zlata u obziru sa novim corona slucajevima. Kod proslih SERS/MERS epidemije je tijedan dana nakon konstantnog pada novih slucajeva pocela rast cijena deonica i drugih "tradicionalnih" imovina. Pratit mogucnsti za pretvaranja cash/zlata u deonice/nekretnine koje su (ponovo fundamenalno) jake za buducnost...

podrzao bi ovo, u ovom trenutku kripto izgleda jako perspektivno, ali je rizik preveliki da bi u long term investiciji tu stavljali preveliki deo ukupne ustedjevine, zavisno od nivoa rizika, ukupnih sredstava i slicno

quote FatFork
Pa onda kupiš još, i još, i još ... I dok se okreneš, dođu novi računi za režije i ostalo pa moraš prodavati po bezveznoj cijeni da bi podmirio tekuće troškove života. Grin

- nemoj to raditi, ulazi samo ono sto ti za dnevne zivotne potrebe nije neophodno, ja ne bi preporucio ni kompletan visak u kripto, nego malo razvrstavanja zavisno od iznosa zlato, dionice, a nekretnina ili plac je uvek dobra stvar kojoj ne pada cena ukoliko je na pravoj lokaciji
6816  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: May 03, 2020, 08:02:09 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245577.msg54355694#msg54355694

evo jedna prijava za projekat koji je usao u top 50, Hyperion, sa pregledom aktivnosti, i procenom da je u pitanju prevara
6817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: May 03, 2020, 10:36:33 AM
Good news for fans, club players will start training in a few days.
First, all players will have to be tested for corona virus, and initially it will be only indvidual Training but great news that the players are still coming back.
It gives hope that the league will not be cancelled and that it will still end, even without viewers.
Surces: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2020/05/02/5ead59b222601de62a8b45d2.html and https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/05/02/5eadb74f268e3ef6708b45d1.html

good news, indeed, hope that we will see end of this season, even without viewers, i think that we will have to wait certain time for stadiums to be full again, i am not such an live viewer on a stadium to go weekly, maybe few times a year, but skip next season completely for sure due to virus, it is better to wait for the audience, we can watch on TV
6818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: May 03, 2020, 10:33:59 AM

For the integrity of the sport the season will be completed.

i would just add, it should be completed, since we can not decide whether or or that is going to happen, in EPL my team is Everton, and yes, i have lost interest in this season long before the covid crisis
6819  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Project use case is important for long term investment on: May 03, 2020, 04:51:40 AM
I have seen several investors complain of rekts and loss after participating in certain ieos or investment, the token refuses to pump or increase in value.

It is as a result of poor demand for the token, hence before investing outrightly for the longer term, research and find out if the token has a use case that can drive token demand.

Because a project without use case, it's just crypto currency. Without demand for the token, it may never reach its true value.

In my opinion, most of the tokens or coins on the market are pump and dump projects. Unlike the coins or tokens that have products because their growth takes time. Tokens that have a use case will usually be more resistant to price fluctuations

i do not think that tokens with use case are more prone to price fluctuations, it is a volatile market, but use case and viable product is only way to have sustainable project for the future, in all other cases projects will shut down eventually since there will be no revenue for the people inside the project to continue their work
6820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do some gamblers actually win? on: May 02, 2020, 08:36:24 PM
Hmmmmmm maybe Poker can be a skill based gambling but you still need luck there Cheesy. What if you are getting a set of ugly cards all the time? Maybe you can turn it around but most of the newbie gamblers who are playing poker can't even do it. I have watched some poker games on Youtube and there are some expert gamblers who are bluffing other gamblers and this may sound funny but this works either way Cheesy. Anyway, if I really want to gamble then I might try poker but maybe I'll just try other poker game apps on playstore Cheesy.
Trying with system and the real human have vast differences as I said earlier on other thread you can increase your poker skill only if you play with real players while risking your real money.

do agree on that, you can not improve your skills on poker without risking your own money, without risk you cannot improve anything, since there is no risk and you can try anything without risk, something that you would not do when risk is involved
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