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6801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: August 14, 2016, 03:52:29 AM
I have earned a lot with gambling but unfortunately lost even more. I am new with bitcoins gambling and starting to get the hang of it Smiley

That is the sad reality in gambling you though you win for that day but if you really calculate how many losses you've got before to win in this day maybr it will turn your shoulders down since i really know that we can lost more in gambling rather than our winnings.

It actually depends on your luck cause most of the gambling games are based on luck, Well there are some to that requires analysis like you're gonna look for patterns.
I'm not sure patterns analysis will work if the results are truly random, winnings in gambling is dependent on our luck. Roll Eyes
Patterns are useless and doing that would only add some excitement to a certain gambling if the pattern hits in favor of them but in the long run it will never work. In gambling the only thing that would work for your is your luck, the more you are lucky the more you are winning in gambling.

Pattern might really got a little help for gambling but the really big fact there is gambling is based on luck upon people whos playing with it, and strat or what you so could pattern are worthless if luck in your side and also im pretty sure that house is very difficult to lose thats why we can experience more lose rather than to win big for some days of betting and winning is rarely to be happen.
6802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does Skill Work? on: August 13, 2016, 11:13:41 PM
It only helps a bit in sports bets. You can't have or use any skills in purely luck dependent games like dice games. As i said, you either lucky or not when you play dice. Sports betting is a bit different though. You can study teams, players, managers and after your studies you may come to a conclusion about the winning team. Now, that study takes serious skills. Still, it doesn't guarantee anything, only helps a little.
You nailed it dude. You still need a luck even if its a skill based games simply because it is gambling. If your a skilled player it doesnt mean that you will win it is just you have a bit of advantage.

Because everything in gambling is based on luck although strat can help us track that where doing healthy gambling but still yet it cannot gaurantee us to win and earn money with it, but yeah the strat are working on some sportsbook since if you do some wise bet and a sportsfan and frequently follows the league daily will can get have advantage to point out who's gonna win and who is the underdog for that game.


But if you think theres working strat in dice game will throw that thoughs because it actually fools you since we can still lose with that remember house is still the champ in the end of the game.
6803  Economy / Securities / Re: Bitcoin investing? on: August 13, 2016, 10:48:43 PM
Hi
I have some Bitcoin, is there any LEGIT website where if i invest into it, i will get some profit in return? not talking about "trading" like 365 trading ecc.. not interested into any brokers website etc, just a proper way of investing? must be legit.
Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

Hmf? I don't think there is sites that is best for investing (considering there are many companies that are dissapearing). Even though you didn't want trading. I still recommend it because you hold your own money and not others. But I think investing in a gambling casino sites are the best. Since gambling sites are not loosing righ? whether we not admit it. But, you just have to choose the right gambling site to invest with. Otherwise, it will just be taken out too.

There's nothing reliable in online investment, all of them are frauds and no sign of company existence, what can we expect for that? Surely it is a scam and just offer high roi to make people inlove to the false promise of earning that they can give and mostly you can actually found that on hyip sites so why bother to invest if we know that it is scam? Just go rather tp any different types of program out there so we can earn decent money and we should avoid ponzi because it will turn scam immediately.
6804  Economy / Marketplace / Re: where can i invest my 1btc? on: August 13, 2016, 02:44:29 PM
i think you should start trading with 1 btc because i this way no one can steal and ran away like the ponzi sites .
you will surely get profit in trading .
There is also risk in trading , if your not be careful for are you doing you will be lost, see what happened in bitfinex it's an example that do not trust more your money even in exchange, every move you make be sure it's not make you lost.

There's a risk on everything and that could add color so our earning time will not be boring, and also the risk is perfect stopper for people to not be eaten by their greed we must need patience aswell as people should remember that all investment structure needs hardwork,

 if someone offers to good to be true earnings of eternity well we must doubt that service because it is provably scam.

And also trading is very risky but i've only see trading as the most reliable and trusted platform where we can earn excellent profit and that program we can trust since it may test our skills on how far we can earn with it.
6805  Other / Off-topic / Re: Make a Living Sports Betting? on: August 13, 2016, 02:04:04 PM
I've seen someone make a thread with the benefit over $3000, and he played in live bets, it is good if you have a strategy, but a small amount was not worth playing in live bets because it has low odds.

he's very lucky with the benefit over $3000 played on sport betting
but not everyone can do it. the same with me, I can't do that and I'm not sure to make a living on sport betting.

what a risk he is facing with that bet and provably he's nutts are sweating when the game is playing and luckily he won on that scene,

And same as you also i dont think i can do it either because i dont have huge confidence interms of betting high amount on just a single bet, i cant take to lose big amount in just single hours of play and he must be a very lucky man for winning 3000$ on that game while really in reality is very hard to reach.
6806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 13, 2016, 01:13:55 PM
LeBron James will re-sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers on a three-year, $100 million maximum contract, league sources said, and the three-time NBA champion also pressured the Cavs to finalize a deal to keep free agent J.R. Smith.

That's more than $33 million a year, fellas. Does that make him the highest paid player now? If so, he richly deserves it and more.

Also LeBron James is pressuring the Cleveland Cavaliers front office to get J.R. paid and signed. Same thing like Thompson. J.R. Smith's agent is LeBron James. I mean, at this point you can't really argue with anyone about it since he just won the title for Cleveland, in like 52 years.

He can do whatever he likes and his demand should be given by the management as he is in the position now to do that. Lebron feels he is the best player in the world, and we have witness in the past that because of him blatt was fired, so he is a special guy for the cavaliers.
JR Smith situation can go one of two ways. He can either use the chip as motivation to carry on playing well, which basically just means putting effort into defense. Or he can let the chip get to his head and go back to his chemistry killing days. I've known and seen headcases like JR all the time, and I see the latter happening.
I believe JR will stay in the cleveland cavaliers because lebron will get what he wants, he is the superstar of the team and he make history with his team now, so I think the pressure is on the cavaliers management how to handle the demand of lebron james.

JR Smith is demanding a higher salary. There is also a rumor that the other teams are offering him what he wants like the Lakers. We will see this coming days if he will return to the Cavaliers.


I dont think jr smith is worth the money he wants. He is lucky he gets to gravy train rings and play with the best in the world and a great point guard. I hope they release/trade him cause its not hard to find someone who will take a stack of money to play with lebron
and kyrie
also Mike Conley Jr. Is no where near Lebrons ability to impact a game yet he will be paid like he does so. Lebron should be getting over 50 million a season and most likely would be if the NBA had no cap like the MLB. If you think NBA contracts are ridiculous go look at what a-rod is making at 41 years old

In the NBA you need cap space to balance the team, to stop the teams to creat super super teams. If thats happen that would be boring to watch and bet. Because you already know whos gonna win.

That can be happen but also it may got a good effect on them since it's really exciting to see the super team in action and how they execute in the hardcourt, and i also think provably many teams will gonna try their very best since this season will be their toughest season will gonna happen since we really notice that each team are shuffling their rooster to get more high skilled addition to lift and maybe win some champ.
6807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ♥♦♣♠RIO Olympic Basketball Official Discussion Thread ♥♦♣♠ on: August 12, 2016, 02:23:19 PM
Australia take on China later today and it will be another tough game for Australia but if they continue to play the way they have been playing they should be winning this game. I say it's tough because they need to win this game to stay 2nd on the table. But I think Australia will win. Also the USA take on Serbia which will also be a great game to watch as Serbia have been playing pretty well so far but I still think the USA will win easy.

sure from all team on Olympic tournament i must admit that im glad that they showed this play like that
hope that they will take some medal


They would provably give their all what they've got since they want to bring some honor to themselves and their country but the reality is only one team only will step up and take the gold and provably that team is USA its because they got the high skilled rooster on their team and i believe also australia will place either silver or bronze aswell same with argentina, that three team i can see who got brighter spot to take some medals on their tally sheets.
6808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 12, 2016, 10:59:24 AM
I do not have an experience to gambling.
But based on my understanding, it is not totally bad or wrong.
It depends to someone who plays it.

Thats the baaic form we can actually called for gambling and thats gambling is totally fine and i dont see either some wrong for it.


For legal aspect, if gambling is illegal in your country, so gambling is wrong. If not, it is not wrong.

For religion aspect, Christians and Muslims consider gambling is wrong.
Our government could be wrong on the other hand of making gambling illegal, they should make an exception for those who are not minors to play gambling because that is our privilege to enjoy and we take the full responsibility of our actions.

How could you think government is wrong For treating gambling as illegal? I do agree with them since gambling is destructable for those people who easily get addicted for these things and these is just a simple warnings since it can give bad effect to anyones life, and their are other syndicate whos making illegal underground gambling so theres nothing wrong for making it as a law or pointing it as illegal hobby.
6809  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2016 and WHY on: August 12, 2016, 10:39:07 AM
ETC and Monero  Grin

i agree with ETC only.
it has been profitable so far, and the recent big dip was a good chance for me to buy even more ETC to sell on the next big PUMP that will come soon after ETH dump begins.


ETC is good since it was very popular to people nowadays and i think you cannot doubt that it almost taken the fame of ETH, and you can add the Xaurum rico on the list as you can see that coin is at very high price like an old xau it cost also a lot of dollars and they are also planning to open their gold mine(dunno what is it) or maybe they are referring to a mining pool.

DUBAICOIN -DBIC , very high potential to grow
refer to ann
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372193.2780

I dont see any potential for DBIC to rise since i think it is playing at dump and pump scheme thats why i think theres no. Future for that coin.
6810  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What Altcoins will be most adopted in 2017 on: August 12, 2016, 08:37:37 AM
Lisk, Waves and NEM have a good chance to reach adoptation in the next years. The foundations are very good for each of these coins and they start to reach more and more people.

It is always difficult to tell for sure, but I'd focus on the ones that have highest potential vs market cap. E.g. it is more likely for a 20-50 mil coin to double or tripple in value than one that is valued at 200-500 mil.

Imo, the real surge in altcoin prices started by ethereum will soon follow to the other coins as well. They are waiting to explode!

I hope so, how do you guys feel about monero?

If you think end of 2017 is not that much till then. 16 months. Is a lot but adoption wise is not that much. I think there will be little changes as they it is right now, or maybe.  

Monero will not become most widely used coin beside Bitcoin before next economic crisis will almost end. So it can take many years till then. No way at end of 2017.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you just made me want it even more. lol

Monero is a good coin but there are others to make bigger profit off of currently.
Its hard to say because it depends on when you buy, today I would buy ETC and Monero, but make sure you are always holding BTC or you will miss the next big hike

Monero is good coin but i think the ETC coin surpass thr ffame it by this time, and i think it will boost for more since many people support the alleged criminal coin( i dunno why) and maybe by this coming next year if people will still support this like when its starting theirs no doubt really it will get more fame and price may even go higher. And also i think we can try to look at those new altcoin existed like pesobit with 20m supply maybe it will boom in the market and for now i will watch the progress of that coin.
6811  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Could Monero replace Bitcoin soon? on: August 12, 2016, 06:18:11 AM
No i dont think any altcoin could replace bitcoin ever specially not seeing that happen in the near future.Yes i think Monero has the potential to rise but replacing bitcoin will be too much expectation from it.Any other coin is still very much far away from the bitcoin right now and no altcoin is gonna replace it.

Yes that would not be happen and how could a new altcoin would replace bitcoin? Its blurry situation and cannot be happen eventhough monero have high volume and community because i am very sure that they exchange it to become BTC, because we all really know that bitcoin is more usefull rather than any altcoin existinh out there, theirs no doubt that the price of monera will spike but it will remain there.

I really believe in this coin but I say no it can not replace bit coin soon, maybe one day in the very distant future but not soon

Never in my wildest dream that Monero replacing Bitcoin even in a thousand years.

Monero is nothing compare to bitcoin and for many years of its existence it gather more trust and it has many used in online markets and with monero i dont see any store accepts it  or any merchant that we can use monero to buy some things that we need.
6812  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: August 11, 2016, 08:46:15 AM
The most important things in trading is the emotion, read the chart and analyze slowly, in trading you must have a good patience and then method of trading is the second most important things, able to read chart and able to predict is the most powerful skill for trading and as for money for me is not too important,you can loan or earn it by trading little by little

If you can' fight that and just listen to those trolls or be afraid for little downwards well you cannot really call yourself a trader aswell as you cannot earn big money for this since you can be manipulated by others who is telling some false info, but if we believe that coin has potential and study tge volume,charts flow and the price barricade well we can determine if the coin will be pumping or dumping and if we really learn the trade wars in exchangers well we can accumulate more money as we can.

Trading just like gamble but we can predict the result rather easier than gambling ( when you actively spend on forum and news )
Just make sure that you're have trust that altcoin or you will got scam ( altcoin are more risky than bitcoin )

You cant really predict but you can avoid some losses if you follow those coin for little while.
6813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 11, 2016, 07:59:13 AM
Quote
Ray Allen vs Reggie Miller vs Stephen Curry

Steph Curry can hit 3 pointers off the dribble, Reggie Miller can't, Ray Allen wasn't that good at it.
Personally I think Allen was a slasher not a pure shooter, T. McGrady and Durant shoot better than Allen.

you say regie miller and ray allen can't 3 pointer
maybe your not undertand , you must read history reggie miller is play indiana pacer legend indiana pacer
regie miller michael jordan play , younger regie miller is early play
big shoter 3 point shoot, majority make point via 3point, is not enough ring champion NBA but is legend
This 3 is is good in shooting in outside they are good in their specific position.Its hard to decide those 3 whos the best of them.But my opinion is Steph Curry he have a speed in fast release of the ball in out side.Thank you

reggie miller is known for his sharp shooting while allen is known for his cluch threepoints. curry on the other hand is known for his ball handling. all are shooters but they each has different specialty. as the guy above said. its hard to choose who is the best and only regie miller had not won a championship.

Its because he has been traded to another team thats why reggie miller didn't got any ring on his career but he is totally a championship contender since we know hes capabilities and what he can contribute to them he belongs, and thats the reason why lebron wants reggie miller to be hes teammate again because he believes that he is a great addition to his team,

But actually we cannot compare whos is the best shooter among them its because they have different rule played in their teams the most important thing is they really play it correctly and make good contribution to win those baskets.
6814  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: August 11, 2016, 07:16:35 AM
for me the safer way to growing our btcoin is building ethereum mining rig, the rate of ethereum is very interesting to me, also i can earn consistent profit each month with mining.

Thats a good idea since if you have your very own mining hardwares and mine altcoin well you can totally earn money with it, and you've got a wiser choice for selecting ethereum because you can actually accumulate some profits for this coin, and selecting bitcoins to mine well be a wrong move since we know that difficulty were even more higher when every halving year happens, but sad to say not all people can afford to buy their own rigs so they are settle to gamble on those scam hyips site wich is so risky.
6815  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Panning to Invest in Genesis Mining, What You Say? on: August 11, 2016, 06:40:24 AM
Hi Guys,

I am complete noob in crypto mining and I realized that pc from my office is worthless for mining any coin. Now, I just did some research on cloud mining.

I saw positive as well as negative reviews about cloud mining, especially Genesis Mining. Though I would like to give a try.

What is your view? Should I go with Genesis Mining (if yes then which plans) or any other service? or stay away from it?


Thanks in Advance
Dudeperfect


Don't. Genesis mining may be a legitimate bcloudmining but it is no longer worth to invest in it. You will need a lot more inititial money to invest and it will surely take too much time for you to get profit.

Yes very true because Genisis Mining is on Worst Situation now they are on ponzi state of business and the roi will even more longer to achieve while if you invest it to other profitable things well we can allocate more money rather than giving an idea on investing on genisis minings, as i've see they will slowly turning down since every year the difficulty to mine blocks are getting harder and harder so in that case genisis is not a wise choice for putting your money in because your time and effort wel be worthless and high chance for investor to get scam if they collapsed If they are totally failed.
6816  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: STRATIS Buying/Selling Thread on: August 11, 2016, 04:44:44 AM

So who's trading stratis on bitrex now? i think the price their is fair enough at ICO price and in rawX price is not true? When i see the price their is huge or i just missed something? And i think thats the reason why rawx got a quick maintenance just to fix the price well who knows,

But really its good to see stratis on trex and maybe it will be more good if the coin will be added on poloniex also because their are many big whales at their who can stretch more the price of stratis
6817  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum RICO [WITHDRAWALS LIVE] on: August 11, 2016, 04:02:26 AM
Im actively reading and waiting for xaur to be added on exchange and OP should update us the latest development on when does this coin will be added to exchangers so we would not speculates some wrong info here, and @OP what would be happen for the OLD xau does it not effect or complicates the new one? Since it have the same symbol behind in there name.


I haven't withdraw mine yet, I don't have much space on my hard drive as of now, I will still have to clean things and check which of the files can be deleted forever.
Can i just use the ETH wallet of an exchange site like trex?

I think its not possible to use the eth wallet on exchanger because xau and eth is different, all we need to do for now is to wait for the dev to add it on good exchangers.
6818  Economy / Services / Re: Liqui Exchange - Signature campaign on: August 08, 2016, 01:23:38 PM
stating my wants to join in this campaign when is the bb codes will be post?
6819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: August 07, 2016, 07:20:36 AM
no i do no think that china is controlling bitcoin but that is a fact that they are really effecting the price of bitcoin because there are a lot of bitcoin users in china.
yes that is a fact that not a sing country can control bitcoin. and they can only influence it because of the large volume of bitcoin they have, so if they at a time decide to sell their bitcoin then there will be a panic selling and the price can fell down to a lower level, but this will be a temporary down fall and after some time the price of bitcoin will increase again.

That is right. The Chinese are just controlling the mining of the bitcoin. They are the security guard for the bitcoin.
yes that is a fact that chinies are effecting bitcoin but they have no control on it, actually not a single country has control on bitcoin, because bitcoin is anonymous and is not under control of any person or any state, people from all over the world are suing bitcoin equally and they are the owner of the bitcoins they have, chines are really good in mining they are influencing bitcoin through mining because they have a good contribution in mining the bitcoins.

Although they have the biggest mining hashrate in the world but i dont think china controlling the bitcoins as the matter of fact all of us do the manipulation with it, dont you notice the bigger the bitcoin we the more chances its dump and how much more if many people will do it? Chinese is just a regular consumer of bitcoins and many different nationalities who can be called big whales in bitcoin industry so thats why i dont think they are the one who can decide to pump and dump the bitcoins price.
6820  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: STRATIS Buying/Selling Thread on: August 07, 2016, 06:26:55 AM
no one can sell anything cause they got nothing. If the exchange is ready before the coins are distributed then sales here will never get finalized.

The BTC portion would be held in escrow until a certain date, once the Stratis portion becomes available.

That is nice so we can make sure that our investment will be on good hands,

and also i agree that no one finalized a deal here since there is no people already receive their stratis because the dev didnt released the bounty and investments yet but i think those other people hold are came from tve which is quite a lot of numbers if they start to collect on early stage of its existince on the market and luckily i got many of those Smiley well let see august 9 is near we can surely trades our behold lir if it will be added on exchangers soon.
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