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6841  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open letter to online exchanges and wallets: use fractional reserve! on: August 03, 2011, 05:08:44 PM
How possible is it to have each account holder's coins associated with a single, separate address/key? (I'm sure it'll be a PITA, but is it technically feasible?) This way, once someone opens an account, you can mail (encrypted file attachment, or mailed on paper) then the private key associated with their account, with instructions to make copies and back it up. Should anything happen to the system (crash, hack, government raid, zombie attack, whatever), users will still be able to manually import their private keys and get their coins off the block chain. Your businesses will still be able to continue operating and providing the same services they do now (easily-accessible secure banking, exchange, whatever).
Likewise, this will shift some of the liability onto the users, in case you are worried about insurance or legal issues.
6842  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MyBitcoin bitcoin's could have been gone a long time ago on: August 03, 2011, 04:57:51 PM
I can't say I would allow my knowing your contributions to the economy and what I believe are good intentions, on the forums, to change my mind on the fact that a private organization is not a great thing.

Are you seriously, on a forum about a private anarcho-libertarian currency, full of free-market loving libertarians, saying that "a private organization is not a great thing???"

 Or at least to clarify, in this particular case using the MyBitcoin situation as the first major goal, just seems like it is taking advantage of things.

Isn't the whole point of capitalism to "take advantage of things?" Currencies, and especially USD and EUR, are in trouble, and Bitcoin stepped in to take advantage of things. Or are you against the idea of "profiting from disaster?"


As for Matthew, and, I can't believe I am saying this, but maybe you should take a lesson from MagicalTux of MtGox: When people accuse you and troll you, just ignore them, keeping your answers as professional as possible, and only to few succinct explanations on how things are going (with an occasional jab at the troll, maybe, but OCCASIONAL!)
Though I do admit, feeding trolls can be fun and addictive  Roll Eyes
6843  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price will hit 5$ this week. Mine..! Mine..! Mine..! on: August 03, 2011, 03:46:21 PM
Trolls WAY trollier than you have predicted price drops with specific numbers before ($10 when it was at $15), only to be ridiculed when the price rebounded without coming close to their predictions. Be careful making specific price predictions.
6844  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MyBitcoin bitcoin's could have been gone a long time ago on: August 03, 2011, 03:43:40 PM
Discussion about MyBitcoin.com is very healthy for the sharing of ideas and suggestions on how to tackle this very serious and difficult problem, but nothing will be done about it through forum posts.

Yes folks, lets give this man and his men all your information regarding this situation in a private place where it can be fucked with to no end.

Sarcasm.

Keep this shit public please.

Or whatever, keep giving all your information to one "trusted" private source.  I mean, why not, this is obviously not a scam, because forum posts say it is not Smiley

Can you give me some ideas as to how someone who has access to my name, phone number, and e-mail (everyone I deal with practically) can scam me? This is very serious and worrying news, and I would want to be prepared to defend myself against scamers who have that info.
6845  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Freedom and Responsibility - or: why you FAILED if you lost money in MBC crash on: August 03, 2011, 03:29:00 PM
... and I've pretty much not stopped crying since Friday.    Even though I have been at the office, and I have put on a normal face for people...    That's why you haven't seen me on the air.     I have to regain my composure, get it together, get my head and my thoughts together, determine where to go from here, and what to say to the audience.

It may help to turn your feelings of pain into anger, and direct that into action to make sure that this issue is fixed and/or will never happen again. Good luck!
6846  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [UABCI] September 27, 2011 U.S.Department of the Treasury might regulate BitCoin on: August 03, 2011, 03:03:21 PM
Forgive me for getting a little off topic, but it is because of a preponderance of regulations such as this that the U.S. economy will remain in a recession for the foreseeable future.  Who wants to bother starting a business (or engaging in any commerce, really) when you have to comply with myriad regulations and have to be continually leery of missteps that can land you in prison?  It's much easier to just stay at home and collect a check from the government.

I would say the biggest cause is uncertainty. Businesses hate uncertainty more than they hate regulation, and with the constant political b*tching going on with threatened gov. shutdowns, debt ceilings, and whatever else is coming this Fall, I'd blame the current economic state of affairs directly on the House/Senate, rather than anything that's already been passed into law.
6847  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How I would EMBRACE Bitcoin if I was a goverment on: August 03, 2011, 02:22:12 PM
why is everyone thinking of ways to force people to pay taxes?  or even have a central government?  Why not a distributed decentralized business that takes care of things that a government does, monetize it.

Because the OP asked?
6848  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Flexcoin Invites on: August 03, 2011, 03:26:45 AM
this is a ponzi scheme, and I guess if you join right now and leave at a early future, you will earn some money from fools.

This guy apparently lives about 1.5 hour's drive from me. If it turns out to be a ponzi scheme, I'll happily drive over and punch someone in the nose (for a fee)
6849  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The mybitcoin.com taught us a lesson on: August 03, 2011, 03:20:34 AM
Also, I wonder why Bitcoin services don't use a single address? Have customer deposits sent to a unique address to identify them, then immediately forward their money to a single central address that uses one key backed up in multiple locations. No need for continuous backups other that the database of user accounts and holdings.
6850  Economy / Economics / Re: Recession Imminent on: August 03, 2011, 03:17:46 AM
It's not that there are no jobs, it's that there are more advanced jobs and fewer blue collar jobs. Unemployment rate for those with college education is actually pretty low, at 4.5% (personally, I don't know anyone of my friends in MD who lost a job, and know of two who quit theirs to find better ones)

http://www4.icmarc.org/for-individuals/market-view/chart-of-the-week/cotw-20110617usunemploymentbyeducationallevel.html

Even during the Great Depression, despite a HUGE unemployment rate, businesses were scrambling to find good employees and having trouble finding any. Machines replacing jobs just leaves more people with a lot more time to do more advanced and more creative things that require more brains and less muscle. So, machines replaced your cashier/assembly/low-skill job? Get some special job training or a degree.
6851  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The mybitcoin.com taught us a lesson on: August 03, 2011, 03:07:22 AM
Just a thought. Someone's site getting compromised means the hacker can also likely force the backup system to overwrite the backed p wallet with a blank/corrupt one. Would it be better to have the site operator "backup" an encrypted wallet to a specified directory, and the external backup service to the grabbing of the file off that server themselves? Keeping it one-way from the backup side will prevent any hacker access to the backups if the whole system is compromised.
6852  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How I would EMBRACE Bitcoin if I was a goverment on: August 03, 2011, 03:00:50 AM
I have a friend who, when we're at the restaurant together, the other regulars have fun at our expense. Afterwards, my friends cries because the other guys are picking on him (he's 59), whereas I play along and enjoy the banter even to the point of adding to the conversation in such a way so that they can rib me some more (I'm 51).

This tells me that you're a man. There are not a lot of them in the world. Mostly just girls with dicks walking around with their jaws flapping, holding a mirror in one hand and a gun in the other. And being 51 doesn't mean anything to that statement (as your story shows). I was a man at 12 years old. If you like my personality now, you would have loved me then. ...wait, that sounded creepy.

Must've been a burly, hairy twelve year old...
6853  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The mybitcoin.com taught us a lesson on: August 02, 2011, 09:23:10 PM
I wonder if we should start providing insurance through the UABB as well.

I'm new to insurance for information products/data. What kind of terms/fees are typical?

Also, considering the ease of backing up Bitcoins to multiple locations, what would be the negatives of keeping the encrypted wallets in the cloud?

Insurance fees will depend on the number of companies you are insuring, and the risk that those companies pose. Basically, if you have 10 companies, each insuring for $10,000 ($100,000 total), and there is a 10% chance that every year one of them will fail and file a claim (for $10,000), you need to make sure each company pays at least $10,000/10=$1,000 a year.
Your major hurdles will be
1) Getting enough people paying enough into a pool large enough to get it at least started, since insuring even just two companies means that you may need both of them to pay half of what they may be worth. If their risk is small, that may make things easier a bit.
2) Calculating the risk of each company will require some professional accounting help. They're called actuaries, there are typically 3 to 6 of those graduating from about 100 general accountants a year, so they're rare, and they are VERY expensive.
3) You will need someone doing on-site inspection of every business you are insuring to come up with initial rates, to make sure they are staying compliant, and to inspect them once they file a claim.
In short, it's not a cheap service to get off the ground. Though if you think there is a need for it, it may be something people are willing to invest in to get the initial insurance pool (of money) going.

As for how to insure Bitcoin, just issue policies in other currencies (USD/EUR), and when the business loses Bitcoin, they'll use their insurance to buy more. They would only be covered for a set amount of USD, so it will be up to the business to make sure they increase their coverage if they get more customers or the value of BTC goes up. Insurance companies aren't liable if the business can't cover all their losses because their coverage was small (ditto for you people with too little coverage on your houses or cars; if your house burns down or you hit a Ferrari, and your policy doesn't cover your losses, you're SOL).
I suspect there are already other insurance companies that insure sensitive valuable data. They may have trouble understanding what Bitcoin is for their "insurance audit" purposes (from #3 above), but they will likely come around.
6854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How I would EMBRACE Bitcoin if I was a goverment on: August 02, 2011, 08:56:15 PM

Um, a 23% sales tax creates a HUGE incentive to avoid sales taxes. This will likely lead to black market trade skyrocketing. May end up costing more in regulation and policing as a result, if the government has any hopes of enforcing it (and you KNOW they'd want to enforce it)

True. So do income tax rates in the same ball park. Do you know of any studies comparing the rates of tax evasion of the two?

I admit, I do not, but I would suspect it is a lot easier to sell something under the table than to hire and pay someone under the table. Despite what all the "illegal alienz!!!" reports are saying.
Reading further about this tax, I'm actually neutral about it. I don't understand it enough to know how much it will affect me should it be implemented, and don't think the effect will be significant.
6855  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The mybitcoin.com taught us a lesson on: August 02, 2011, 07:33:50 PM
Why not just get plain business liability insurance, and up your coverage as you increase deposits? It will cost you, and you will likely have to submit to security and business audits by the insurance company, but otherwise should be sufficient. If you lose people's money, just use insurance to buy more.
Though, you mentioned your bank will be free? So getting money for business insurance premiums (not cheap) will be tough...
6856  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How I would EMBRACE Bitcoin if I was a goverment on: August 02, 2011, 06:42:10 PM
uhh...mark of the beast much?

You mean QR Codes???


How about just nuking the entire income tax system and replacing it with a consumption tax like VAT? there's an example here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax.

A government would then not have to worry about people evading income tax.


Um, a 23% sales tax creates a HUGE incentive to avoid sales taxes. This will likely lead to black market trade skyrocketing. May end up costing more in regulation and policing as a result, if the government has any hopes of enforcing it (and you KNOW they'd want to enforce it)
6857  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Price Drop on: August 02, 2011, 06:29:08 PM
Price goes up, "Not buying! Early adopters got all benefit!"
Price goes down, "Not buying! I'm worried price will keep falling!"

seems like we're still in early adopter stage. Not surprised price is so low, considering all the issues in the last two months.
6858  Economy / Economics / Re: Recession Imminent on: August 02, 2011, 06:16:19 PM
I miss the good ol' days of 5am to 11pm back breaking farm work. EVERYONE was employed back then, from the day they turned 10, till they died at 35{.}
6859  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MyBitcoin.com, the Rabbit & the Alligator - A Lesson of Subterfuge & Deception on: August 02, 2011, 04:04:03 PM
Cool story bro.

Since when do animals talk?

Damn furries...
6860  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public distribution of wallet.dat? on: August 02, 2011, 03:47:36 PM
Stupidly done backups still fail stupidly. And even good backups can get screwed. We use this system for our website, where important parts are available and distributed to site supporters. When something like a hard drive crash happens (we lost a chunk of our backup once), we put out a request and had people with their own backup copies send us the lost files back.
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