What bug you talk? I register in the casino and they give me 0.005 bonus and after play I win 0.043 and they disabling my account.
It should be 0.05 BTC which is creditted to your account as facebook and twitter campaign promotions , basically you need to like and tweet few things before it is creditted to your account but due to the exploit/bug anyone who created a new account could get it instantly. If you are not aware yet perhaps scroll a pages back P.S : they have been disabling alot of account due to this bug being abused, probably yours was too Hi ,
I am again having payout problem . This time is for 0.002 BTC which is very less .. Mailed hrs back and no response yet
Kindly help me
Alot of people has been having problem for the withdrawal since they have few people who exploited some bugs perhaps they are doing some extra checking for every withdrawal right now. P.S : someone waited over 24 hours for the withdrawal |
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Yes this is exactly what happened when online gaming was huge back in 2000's. It started getting banned because many large websites couldn't afford to pay the huge licensing fees and keep up with regulation. In the near future there will be more and more regulations towards online bitcoin mining.
Right , this could be why it is best to avoid this matter here rather than having some problem in the future since no one will know hows the future might shift and Henry has mentioned in the OP that he cant afford the license yet .That is why this precautions are being taken Like I have said before, that is not the right way to look at it. Bitcoin is legal right now. And a gambling site not within the jurisdiction of US, is not illegal. If it was a matter of taking precaution, then a person using bitcoin should stop using it, as in future it may become illegal in the States. The risks of continuing to run the casinos online through bitcoin in another country and almost negligible. Bitcoin is not legal in some parts of the country. This matter is not on our call. Its on Henry, He feels like doesnt want to have a life where he doesnt feel safe and we should of course respect his decision with that. Nevertheless, anything to do with casino/gambling sites is dangerous especially if it is unlicensed. |
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Hi Arallmuus!
We appreciate your report on the bug, if you could provide us your username we would like to issue you a bonus for it. Great, I have provided you my email via PM  As we have mentioned before, we do take very seriously "bonus abusers" since we try at Birwo to give the best bonuses to our users Good thing of your manual withdrawal is that is allow you guys to verify on this kind of abuse. If not , alot of user will be abusing this and thus leaving the casino to bleed due to it being abused. The bad thing of it will be that legit user are infected as well, which does make a bad impression about the casino P.S : Someone above mentioned to have the withdrawal request pending for over 24 hours, wonder if its been resolve yet With this, we have come upon many users who create hundred of accounts finding bugs and exploiting them. Definitely, you cant expect everyone to be reporting the bugs they found, most will ofcourse abuse it especially since this bug is easy to reproduce However this time, a user exploited a bug and used it to it's advantage, unfortunately for him he didn't comply with the rules so he was discarded from the promotion The you will need to state the fact about user abusing it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1053010.0 . Its a scam accusation against your casino and it leave a bad impression for your site
will edit this post once I have get the bounty reward and withdraw it |
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I am of the opinion that some sort of crackdown will happen eventually (don't know when obviously), and I'd be quite happy to not be part of it. Any references on where do you get this info? hasnt heard anything related to this thing yet I want to make this crystal clear: I have based my decision on publicly available information. That some sort of crackdown will happen eventually is my personal opinion. I do not know if it will happen or when. I just don't want to find out the hard way. I'm a bit hesitant to talk too much about this topic in public because it's a bit touchy. Anyone should feel free to get in touch by email ( henry@fastslots.co) or pm anytime. I got your explanation via PM and I do respect your decision regarding this matter, wise decision Henry I still don't think that this is necessary, the US is shutting down gambling sites which they think were/are running in the country and they're doing that because these sites were unlicensed. Bitcoin AFAIK is considered legal in US and if a player is playing at a site which doesn't comes under the US jurisdiction, it should be fine. I don't think they can shut-off/raid a site outside of US.
Well regarding this, Henry has made it clear that the reason for this will be most likely precautions to avoid things from happening in the future and of course no one would be wanting the feds to be knocking on your front door in the morning Yes this is exactly what happened when online gaming was huge back in 2000's. It started getting banned because many large websites couldn't afford to pay the huge licensing fees and keep up with regulation. In the near future there will be more and more regulations towards online bitcoin mining.
Right , this could be why it is best to avoid this matter here rather than having some problem in the future since no one will know hows the future might shift and Henry has mentioned in the OP that he cant afford the license yet .That is why this precautions are being taken |
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my reward for retweet still not credited to my account
You dont even need to do this because If you read my previous posts you can see that you can get the bonus just by making a new account on the site. Not to mention there are some issue with the withdrawal from the sites and the owner of the site is accusing someone for using multiaccount despite he has passed the wagering requirement . P.S : Just tried that bug that I mentioned and it is still working . It is not working in my side, just tried as what you shared. I also asked my friend to create an account on this site, but he got nothing and its been more than 24hours after he shared the facebook campaign. Seems that OP has already fix this bug, and stop the campaign (I guess) Not working anymore either here. Good thing they fixed it already but I doubt that they will continue this campaign again and they have probably ruined their reputation by not paying that guy with 1.35 BTC balance and atleast it is a good warning for those who wanted to try on this casino . Probably a warning as well for the other sites before giving a no deposit bonus which they thought that no one could pass the wagering requirement P.S : hope to get bounty for reporting this bug/glitches/exploit ,though it is not necessary  |
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Well if you put it like that there's also no skill with poker. You just need to bet all in and wait to see if you'll win.
Why I think it's like poker. There's certainly that bluffing aspect of the game. The showdown. You're trying to get other players to go all in first and then you bet and get all the bonus. Or you keep staring each other down and then you both die. And there's also the constant calculation of the EV. If you know someone's going to wait a long time, you could go early and you have a better chance of getting the bonus.
Not that easy . It seems like you dont know what it means to play poker yet. It is not like you can all-in and expect the other guy to follow you and eat up your bluff. Definitely poker is different than bustabit . It is advertised in the site that it is 99% luck and 1% skill nothing more to argue with that. The bolded part is wrong. If someone managed to cash out at the higher multiplier than those who cashout at the earlier multiplier will not get the bonus Well for the strategy, I think betting with martiangle will give you some profit.
Posibly, it wont work in long term though as because all gambling strategy were meant to fail |
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Hi Betvip,
How do you calculate on the game points exactly? AFAIK 1 mBTC = 1 cash game points before. Which will be rewarded if you get in the GTD tournament, rebuy and play on the ring games. So I was playing on the GTD yesterday with 3x rebuy and my game points only increase by 6 points
I supposed it should be :
Buy in fee : 6 mBTC
Rebuy 3x : 6 mBTC x 3 = 18 mBTC
I supposed to received atleast 24 points but when the game ended I was rewarded with only 6 points . Care to elaborate on how is this points thing?
Hi arallmuus, So here is how it works; 1mBTC table rake = 6 CGP and these points are distributed among all participants, so if there were 6 players and rake was 1mBTC then each player gets 1 CGP. Let me know if you have any more questions on this? Regards Jessica Thankyou for explaining it but unfortunatel I dont play at the ring table. I was playing at GTD tournaments and since in the GTD tournaments there is no rake there then your explanation doesnt suit with my cases. Please check above for my cases and how is the CGP distribution works for the GTD tournament Hi again, In the tournaments, 1mBTC of entry fee is = 5.5 CGPs. You do not get cash game points for buy-ins or rebuys. Regards Jessica I see, is this how it was from the start ? Funny, I could have sworn I got lot more CGP in the past just buy using buyin and also rebuy from the GTD tournament. Thankyou very much for the explanation Some suggestion for betvippoker, Could you drop the reward of CGP in the Cash game Points Tournaments for the winner? By making it this way , the winner will keep on becoming superior in the cash game tournaments since he got a lot more CGP to spend. Not rewarding CGP in the CGP tournament will also make alot players find an alternative way of getting it by playing on the ring games or GTD to gather more CGP P.S : to anyone reading this, feel free to contact me for ring games to get more CGP . Currently need alot more CGP for the upcoming CGP Tournaments  |
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just bet on the right number and all players wrong bets will be sent to you until an other player find the next right number , anyways its a 100% fair game cause you are not playing against the server.
Even if you are not playing against the house it does not mean that the game is fair unless there is a provaly fair system on the site which in your site is not there. Not saying ill about it, but you could have play at the game as a players and manipulate the number as your favor . That is why still a provably fair system is needed on your site |
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Hi Betvip,
How do you calculate on the game points exactly? AFAIK 1 mBTC = 1 cash game points before. Which will be rewarded if you get in the GTD tournament, rebuy and play on the ring games. So I was playing on the GTD yesterday with 3x rebuy and my game points only increase by 6 points
I supposed it should be :
Buy in fee : 6 mBTC
Rebuy 3x : 6 mBTC x 3 = 18 mBTC
I supposed to received atleast 24 points but when the game ended I was rewarded with only 6 points . Care to elaborate on how is this points thing?
Hi arallmuus, So here is how it works; 1mBTC table rake = 6 CGP and these points are distributed among all participants, so if there were 6 players and rake was 1mBTC then each player gets 1 CGP. Let me know if you have any more questions on this? Regards Jessica Thankyou for explaining it but unfortunatel I dont play at the ring table. I was playing at GTD tournaments and since in the GTD tournaments there is no rake there then your explanation doesnt suit with my cases. Please check above for my cases and how is the CGP distribution works for the GTD tournament |
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And my counterargument is that OP either should just buy a VPN and move on - or not gamble at all. Just because he doesn't like it or isn't available for him doesn't make it an invalid choice. Do note that OP is asking opinions here which he has excluded both of that . He does not mention that he does not like it or not available for him. If he was already stated that both is excluded ( theoritically, not specifically, corrected the previous one ) then it is not wise to provide it as an opinions anymore In my opinion, I wouldn't trust any of the new dice sites (most have been around <6 months) Safedice, rollin.io and bustbabit/Dustdice has been here for quite some time with no issue whatsoever. >6 months for sure. They could be an option with no accountability or traceability should anything actually go wrong (or they just steal the coins). The same could happen to the both site that you mention. Not to say a bad things about PrimeDice and JustDice , if anything happen to both site ( or if they "steal" ) there will be no difference that the other new sites P.S : sorry Stunna and Dooglus , not saying a bad things about you guys just rather spouting an example here |
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my reward for retweet still not credited to my account
You dont even need to do this because If you read my previous posts you can see that you can get the bonus just by making a new account on the site. Not to mention there are some issue with the withdrawal from the sites and the owner of the site is accusing someone for using multiaccount despite he has passed the wagering requirement . P.S : Just tried that bug that I mentioned and it is still working . |
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Just use a VPN - no big deal. TBH I wouldn't trust any of the other newer sites till they actually have been here an extended amount of time and have continuously shown professional behaviour and support. If you can't use PD, JD is pretty good - only issue is that CLAMs are relatively volatile, real pain in the butt if you want to gamble. I do know that you can still play on PrimeDice by using VPN but this is not the case for this question since OP mentioned specifically that he has excluded both PrimeDice and JustDice. PrimeDice and JustDice both started as a new sites as well, which the competition was a bit lesser on that time. Eventually all new dice sites will get there, since the matter of trust is earned over time If I had asked you this question one year ago, the answer would have been either Primedice or Just-Dice. Now that Primedice isn't accepting US-based players unless they use Tor or a VPN, and Just-Dice switched over to CLAMs last year, what do you think is now the most trustworthy and reputable dice site for US-based players?
Clearly means that OP is not looking for either PrimeDice or JustDice as an answer since he has excluded and know about it. So both of them is not an answer for this |
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Hi Betvip,
How do you calculate on the game points exactly? AFAIK 1 mBTC = 1 cash game points before. Which will be rewarded if you get in the GTD tournament, rebuy and play on the ring games. So I was playing on the GTD yesterday with 3x rebuy and my game points only increase by 6 points
I supposed it should be :
Buy in fee : 6 mBTC
Rebuy 3x : 6 mBTC x 3 = 18 mBTC
I supposed to received atleast 24 points but when the game ended I was rewarded with only 6 points . Care to elaborate on how is this points thing?
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It seems the issue that I raised yesterday was not fixed yet. So while you are it, I might chime in few things for you to fix alltogether.
1. It seems rather inconvenience if you click on the chat bar because if you are chatting you cant see the result of your roll. Perhaps you could move the chatbox into somewhere else where we can chat and also at the same time to see the result of the roll
2. Roll speed is still slow, whats the speed of the roll currently?
3. There is an arrow on top right corner on the box where the sites profit are, but when I clicked on it, there is nothing shown there
4. Is there a way to do an unlimited roll with the autobet feature? Seems like We cant do it as the maximum for the rolls is 10,000 rolls / seconds even if I tried to put in more than that and
5. player is able to roll with 0 satoshi bet but It wont be shown at the all bet section but shown at the mybets section
6. It is not really "provably fair" if we cant change our seed, this is the most crucial things that you need to add for your sites
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Primedice regardless, obviously. Not hard.
Seems like you are missing something. Title says for US players which means PrimeDice is no longer included because it doesnt accept deposits from the US players anymore. Link for references https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1043059.0Excluding my own sites for obvious conflict of interest issues
My votes goes for Ryan's site both for DustDice and Bustabit although bustabit is not a dice sites It is still very new compared to the other established dice sites. IMO a site can only earn trust slowly over time, and all those great features and campaigns have very limited help in that aspect.
You are sure right but DaDice will get there eventually , every dice sites started from where Dadice is right now and It is growing at the faster pace than the other new sites which is obviously what do you think is now the most trustworthy and reputable dice site for US-based players?
In term of trust, no sites will be more trustworthy then PrimeDice or JustDice which is for sure but If I were to choose a new sites then I will personally choose DustDice and SafeDice Since there is a lot of name spoutting out here from each another opinion, how about a poll to keep track of everyone's choice about this? |
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So, 1 bet is as equal as 1 xp ?
Also, 1 chat is as equal as 1 xp too ?
1x bet won equal as 1 point and so is the 1x chat in the site 1 xp per bet won means?
If I lose a bet, that wager won't count in this?
It never actually anything to do with the wager because all you need for 1 point of exp is a win bet that is all. It doesnt matter if you wager 100 BTC and won or wager 1 satoshi and won since the exp will be the same . You can even bet 1 satoshi at 98 % chance and each winning will get you 1 exp points P.S : Im still rolling 1 satoshi at 98% chance to win just to get the higher level faucet |
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Congrats on the 5 billion bets. Seems both wagered and bets didn't really get a hit since the US ban too http://dicesites.com/primedice Pretty interesting. Not sure if it might have a slowly declining effect as it is more likely to scare of new players than existing players, but definitely good news for PD. This is still on the early stages. Declining effect might affect PrimeDice but not gonna really have a severe effect to the site. It appear although that PrimeDice doesnt accept the deposits from the US players anymore, there will still be numerous people that will play through VPN and the other stuff. Reason for it would be simple, PrimeDice is still the most trusted among the other dice sites around here. So I doubt that it will have a severe effect to the sites and not to mention PrimeDice is growing bigger daily. I lose my 0.1 bitcoin in 90% Chance..  Pretty normal, get a grip . Anything could have happen, just dont try to chase your loss because you could have lost a lot more |
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Having read your comments I think that I might be overly cautious. You actually did the right thing to do, it is said to be best to prevent things from happening in the future On the other hand my legal council was of the opinion that if a crackdown happens then the risk to operators would be quite high Yes it is, the risk is on operators and not the players that is why there is a warrant to Micon. If they could crack down the operator than the sites will be close, meaning no more US players will be playing there again and it is easier to arrest 1 guy rather than arresting thousand of players I am of the opinion that some sort of crackdown will happen eventually (don't know when obviously), and I'd be quite happy to not be part of it. Any references on where do you get this info? hasnt heard anything related to this thing yet I'm also not sure that not being based in the us is a sufficient protection from prosecution there. It is not and we are talking about US which got influence to almost all countries which means that anything could happen if they want to start cracking down this thing Stunna also doesn't seem to be based in the US Yes he is not AFAIK In addition to that I must say that the thread of getting into legal trouble has been a bit of a weight on my shoulders. I'm certain to be loosing money through this move, but I've gained in life quality.
Better to set up precautions than to be sorry later |
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I always find it funny when people complaining about giveaways... they are not complaining they just ask for bigger ones as they have a lot of money and could do a bigger one Yes it is complaining, basically you are not satisfied with the current one and asked for a bigger ones and that is complaining. We dont deserve the right to say what the amount of the giveaway will be. It is Stunna's call wether to give how many BTC for this milestone and even if Stunna decided not to give any BTC , it is his right since this is his site . |
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If its not , I still don't understand the reason, if you are not based in US then. None of the government organizations will come after your site, because if one goes down the other can be created, Its not like the Megaupload case against Dotcom, wherein his was only the big company there.
The reason is simple. Precautions. Better to be safe than sorry. That could also be PrimeDice reason of no longer accepting deposits from the US player. There is no guarantee that someone that is operating gambling sites that is not based on US will be safe if US decided to put on some resources to track on the owner of the sites. I thought you may be misunderstanding this post Well, I wouldn't say that what is happening to Bryan Micon is not a problem...
Literally means that fastslot is taking the consideration based on this matter too , CMIIW Well the risk is always there of landing into some legal trouble in the future, but its too less or non-existent if you are based in another country, and are accepting bitcoins . There has actually been no case of any such site, based outside US landing into any trouble as such. If the government wishes to shut them down, they would rather just ask the ISP's to block couple of sites, instead of going after them in their countries. And it will probably be the major casinos or sportsbooks which will be affected, which would give the smaller ones enough time to shut down. There is a risk about it and thats the fact, better to play it safe than regret in the future. No one will know how the future comes. For now, I would say that there will be alot more major which the US will consider if they decided to "pursue" the owner of those sites but still you wouldnt want the feds to be knocking on your front door. So I do think that fastslot decision is right to no longer accept deposit from the US player |
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