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6921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gambling in the wake of covid-19 on: September 08, 2020, 02:29:37 AM
I've seen a few people getting more desperate around this time. It's a hard time, no doubt. Disposable income has gone way down, sources of income are reduced and family matters tend to get worse. At this time losing money in gambling has more of an impact, and some people tend to try to escape with gambling. This is exactly where big problem situations can arise from.
right, here the need for serious discussion within the family, especially those who have a gambling addict partner...
This epidemic has directed our lives in an uncertain direction, some say there is a vaccine and some say not. Until now, many have not found work and are still in debt just for food. for gambling addicts, it is best to reduce the intensity of your gambling and pay attention to the economy of your family.

There's a lots of things that you can keep yourself busy instead of getting engage more with gambling.

With this pandemic the effects is to be with your family most of the time, You can be more attached in finding ways
on how to survive and bring the needs of your love ones instead of going to gamble and risk your money.

It is right. We don't have to keep busy playing gambling because right now, the important thing in this situation is how we can have money to fill our daily needs. Many people lost their jobs, which impacts our lives too, so we need to search for the other way to help us make money.

It is better to spend our time with our family while we can do it because after this pandemic, perhaps, every person in our homes will be busy searching for another chance to make money. And if you still busy playing gambling, you will lose your opportunity to have time with your family.
6922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Regulations in online Gambling sites on: September 08, 2020, 01:26:12 AM
~snip~

Private IP may also not be able to help when bypassing locks... As wrote above, some sites may track VPN usage via special software...

No, I think it is working to bypassing the locks. Some sites don't mean all sites Wink

I don't know if they use special software to track the VPN, but I don't have a problem to gamble on the gambling sites as far as I use the VPN.

But when the regulations are applied on the online gambling sites, whether it's fiat or crypto online gambling sites, we can't do anything except follow the regulations. Perhaps, some online gambling sites don't use that regulation so that we can search for another online gambling.
6923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Hold Strong!!! on: September 07, 2020, 04:39:13 AM
They should fear if they don't choose the right coin, and to find the right coin, they need to analyze which will need time to find the coins. The pump and dump will always happen, and we don't have to complain about that because if we can prepare for the dump, we will not worry and we can be ready to buy more at a low price.

Just holding without having more information about the coins will not give us a chance to hold for a long time because of the bear market because we can be panic to see the price fluctuate. So if you can get more information about the coin before you hold, you will not be a problem to hold, even you already wait for a long time to see the price increase again.
6924  Economy / Speculation / Re: sell now or you WILL regret it on: September 07, 2020, 03:39:13 AM
~snip~

Thinking for more good possibilities but there's a little doubt in my mind that we will pump up quickly so maybe I will just monitor the market for a while to see some constant changes since my god feel right now is we might gonna see some $9k figure at this point but let see if the market will go to that shit and I think that level is good to enter to save for a pump.

The bitcoin price finally reaches $9k level, but the price bounces up again to the $10k level. And now, the price is trying to go up by touching $10,200 and it still trying to increase more. Although the red candle still appears on the market, I am sure the bitcoin price will have the chance to break the high price.

It seems bitcoin price will have a difficult time to break the high price this week, but we know that bitcoin is strong and it will be back to the high price again.

I haven't sold it yet, even though I had a big loss, I'm sure the market will recover, and Bitcoin will also be back above $ 11000 again,
we are still entering bullish season, so I'm not worried about dumps

No problem if you are not selling bitcoin yet because it is another correction, and it always happens many times in the bitcoin journey. We will see another bullish season soon, and make sure that you are ready to sell at the high price. Perhaps, we will see the new ATH after the last ATH was broken in a few weeks ago.
6925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Regulations in online Gambling sites on: September 07, 2020, 02:39:59 AM
Agreed, by the time we need to be sure of following and sticking within the rules and regulations framed by the gambling websites itself. In that if the website allows access through VPN, then it isn't an issue. If not at times when arises issue, the support team will indicate the use of VPN as the reason and end the support ticket.

I think if we use a private VPN, the gambling site will not be a problem. But if we use a free VPN, perhaps, that could be a problem for us since many people access the same IP at the same time. But so far, I don't use a VPN to visit the gambling site because my ISP is not blocking many gambling sites, and it seems, and the ISP is okay with that.

But if there will be regulations from the government, I think that will be a problem for the gamblers because they will hard to visit on the gambling website through their real IP. So they need to use private VPN to visit on the gambling site.
6926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gambling in the wake of covid-19 on: September 07, 2020, 01:36:41 AM
I've seen a few people getting more desperate around this time. It's a hard time, no doubt. Disposable income has gone way down, sources of income are reduced and family matters tend to get worse. At this time losing money in gambling has more of an impact, and some people tend to try to escape with gambling. This is exactly where big problem situations can arise from.

That is true because losing their jobs in this pandemic makes many people desperate. They need to make money but seems, and they need to struggle and compete with other people who also search for a job. They see that gambling is a fast way to make money, but they know that before they can make money from gambling, they need to use their own money to gamble. We hope that people out there don't have to gamble with their money if they want to make money, but they still need to search for a job. In this pandemic, they really need to stop playing gambling for a while and make their family as their reason to survive and make money.
6927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: All your entertainment things must have an external limiting feature, agree? on: September 07, 2020, 12:36:05 AM
It's true that everything has limits, so we will not become addicted. Especially for entertainment which is a lot
happened over excited. Like watching movies sometimes we spend all day, or playing games can happen the same thing.
So addiction doesn't just happen to gambling. Therefore, we must have external limiting features in order to control it.
When we enjoy entertainment. I usually use an alarm on my watch, to remind me of the time limit for enjoying entertainment,
it has proven effective for me.


Good for you because that can help you to avoid addicting to gambling. You can know when to stop gambling by hearing the alarm on your watch, but you still need to have control for yourself because sometimes, we can forget to stop while we are too busy and enjoy the games. But you did a great thing for yourself to prevent and avoid the addicting to gambling. I hope you can still do that way, and you can still have fun and enjoy playing gambling with limitations.

So this can be the way for the gamblers that the gamblers must have limitations for themselves, and not just have control because, in gambling, we can forget everything once we can feel have fun.
6928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What Is Really Happening To The Market? on: September 06, 2020, 09:06:46 AM
I don't think we can see bitcoin around 5k. The dump is expected as far as I am concern, I feel is just some form of correction which will not last for a long time. Though the fell of stock market might also influence this fall but everything will be back to normal sooner than expected, no need for panic.

Even if the price is dump hard to below $10k, we need to stay calm because behind the fallen of bitcoin price, and we will have the opportunity to buy bitcoin at a low price. This time can be a good example for us because bitcoin now is at $10k price, so that will be a good time to repurchase more bitcoin. I am sure the bitcoin price makes a deep correction of the price, but the bitcoin price will start a rally to the high price after this correction. And who knows, after this correction, bitcoin price will have a big chance to break $15k or even higher price. It is better to hold our bitcoin if we can't buy bitcoin this time, and better we do other things, so our mind will not think about the market's downtrend.
6929  Economy / Speculation / Re: sell now or you WILL regret it on: September 06, 2020, 07:05:45 AM
Thanks for the warning, OP.
I'm selling in a inverted DCA strategy, and your post convinced me to sell double this week.

What is your target for buying back?

I don't think it will go lower than $10 k now so $10200 is the best price to buy back congratulations to your profit, the dumping is more like a domino effect, once they saw a dip people are ready to sell for profit because this is the signal that they are waiting to happen and now people like you are looking for the floor so you can buy again for future profit, it's a strategy that always works.

But the price is still going down, and now the price reaches $10,100. Besides that, the candle still shows the red candle, so I think we need to be careful if we want to enter the market. No one knows when the price will bounce up to the high price, but it seems, bitcoin needs more time to increase. I hope that the price will not go down to $9k level because that can makes people panic, and they will not think twice about selling their bitcoin. We still have time to wait for the increases in the next week, so hopefully, this correction will stop on this day, and tomorrow, the price will start to increase again.
6930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: All your entertainment things must have an external limiting feature, agree? on: September 06, 2020, 06:05:17 AM
This is a very nice idea indeed. I couldn't agree more.

Having this feature would surely lessen addicted people or people to be addicted in gambling. However, there would be another way for them to cure their thirst. They could still play int other gambling sites if they've hit the limit on a certain gambling site, so on and so forth.

But still, implementing this kind of feature will help a lot of people, and I hope gambling sites are okay with it because all of them doesn't care about people's money, all they care is about making bankrolls every single day.

This can help people not to get addicted to gambling. If strict rules are in place, people will only gamble within limits and will never face gambling addictions. However the question remain that who will make this rule and ensure it is being followed by all casino's and the players ?

For gambling site if they implement it then it is their loss as if people do not lose then how will they make money and they are here for business. So it is onus of each individual to know their limits and be in self-control rather than expecting other to make changes.


We can imagine if we are a gambling owner who has a popular gambling site. And suppose there is a regulation about limiting the gamblers not to become addicting. In that case, I think we will negotiate with the regulators about the amount that will be fair enough for us if we want to use it for our site.

We will need to search for a win-win solution that can works for our site and all gamblers, so we can still make money, and the gamblers can avoid becoming addicting to gambling. Perhaps, that can work well if the gambling owner wants to help people by solving the addicting problem, and the gamblers like to avoid the addicting.

It is not just as simple as that because that will need more discussion between the regulators, the gambling owners, and the people involved in that. Perhaps, we will see other things that will come out from each country, especially for the countries that allow gambling.
6931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You have to prove that you can take the loss on: September 06, 2020, 05:01:32 AM
This has a pro and cons both. Good for those who earning is not much and only have limited money for their survival so in such case losing in gabling will prove to be fatal. On other hand those who have lot of money now will have to also prove it and they might just stay without it.

I don't think those people with a lot of money would be going to face an ombudsman just to prove that he himself can take those losses. If I am one I would just visit other gambling sites or maybe just create another account where I could gamble or maybe just play with other people not known by the government. They would stay gambling but I don't think they would be staying at the same online casino though.

Those people will not visit the ombudsman because I think they will feel embarrassed, and they don't want others to know if they have a problem with gambling. And if those they are forced to meet the ombudsman, he will cover his face and don't let others know. I think if I were on those people, I will stop for a while and not visiting on the gambling websites. I need to calm myself down, and I will try to do something else because the media will search for other news and blow up to the public. We can stay away from gambling until the situations are conducive to come back again in the gambling websites, but with having control for ourselves.
6932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mind Blown Gambling Facts on: September 06, 2020, 04:02:07 AM
~snip~

Corruption will never end until there is no value for money, no one will ever get satisfied with what they have but not everyone involved in corruption but everyone has been a part in it, if we want to have corruption free country then every individuals should stop giving bribes, just start support the shills and talents so one day we could hae someone to rule with no intention of earning money.

The corruption will be happening in all countries because people are hunger to chase wealth from many sides. We will not do corruption if we can feel grateful for everything that we have, and we don't have a passion for chasing more and more. We are okay with what we have, and if we don't have something like others, we don't pursue it because of satisfaction. But I believe that someday, the government will have honest people who can rule with wise people and don't want to corrupt people's money.

Last year it is estimated that approximately 10 billion pounds were spent on gambling! It is estimated that approximately 5% of compulsive gamblers seek help from a gambling program or gambling rehab. This means that 95% of problem gamblers have their lives ruined by debt and depression.

That is what happens if we are too often playing gambling until we don't stop that. The risk of gambling can ruin our lives, and debt and depression will be on our lives. If we can't control ourselves, we will end like those people because we will not realize how much money we already spent on gambling. Debt and depression will chase us nonstop, and if we don't try to ask for help from other people, we will not think too long to end our lives.
6933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greatest Gambling Losers on: September 06, 2020, 01:49:10 AM
that is what is called risk when gambling so you can lose a very large asset, the money you use can run out immediately, but gambling can give you a lot of profit because when your guesses can be correct and accurate then you can become rich instantly.

But we know that not many gamblers can win much money, and the rest will lose. Many gamblers lose much money because they also lose control of gambling, but some gamblers still try to play more because they expect to make a win in the next round. And if we read on that list, they lose so much money which we can't imagine what will happen to us if we lose that much money. Controlling ourselves will be the important thing to avoid big losses. But yes, if we can win many times in gambling games, we can win a lot of money.
6934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gambling in the wake of covid-19 on: September 06, 2020, 12:49:50 AM
Due to the pandemic people are completely shut into the homes. All the conversation were between the family members. Within the family members beyond certain level we can't share the difficulties we encounter,  because they might be experiencing the same. Here the friends part helps big, and this itself could cause difficult situations and end up in stress. So, as an alternate people spending time to gamble isn't a big thing during the time of covid19.

Perhaps, those people have confusion about what they want to do while they are homes. So when they browse on the internet, they watch the advertisement for online gambling, and they think, "Ah, maybe I can play gambling for a while." So they start to browse the gambling games inside the website and find the game that they like.

Sooner or later, they'll find out that playing gambling is excited and they can spend some time and money, but after they play for some days, they become busy with playing gambling. That will attract a new problem for them because they become addicted if they don't control themselves. And in the end, we see another addicted gambler during this pandemic.
6935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You have to prove that you can take the loss on: September 05, 2020, 07:39:58 AM
~snip~

As long as you consider gambling as a hobby or entertaining things , it will not have any bad effect on you . When you take it seriously you may get involved in various crime. I know a lot of gambler  ,who lost their everything only for addiction to gambling . On the other hand , there are some of my friend , who gamble regular and go to casino regularly . They hangouts with friend and drinks . But they are not addicted  , they know what their limit is. as my perspective of view , i want to say that , if you take gambling as a game that its have no bad effect but if you are addicted ,then no matter how rich you are . It can makes your life hell .

Yes, you are right. It will be better if we use gambling as an entertaining thing to enjoy and have fun playing gambling. No matter if we play gambling alone or with our friends, we will not have any bad effect because we know the limits, and we know about addiction to gambling. We will always play moderately, and we will stop playing gambling when we think it is enough for us. The addicted to gambling is a serious matter that every people must concern, and don't let us get inside the addicting to gambling.

~snip~
I think depend if which kind of friends do you have,for me?our circle of friends Binds as brother and everything we do together is all for fun and for each other,we gamble sometimes together but all the winnings will go to either Beer or foods that we will be having together.
thats why i think i understand @peter0425.

Although I don't always gamble with my friends, yes, I agree with both of you that we will have a good moment and passionate about what we do when we can spend time with them. And as you say, we do it together and have fun together.
6936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Biggest Bitcoin giveaway scams and how can you avoid them on: September 05, 2020, 05:31:22 AM
If the giveaway is good to be true, you need to be careful because, as we know, if the giveaway is real, we don't have to send any money, but it is okay if we only send an email. But the scammers will use many ways to trick their target people, and sometimes if we are not smart enough to think if that is real or not, we can get scam too.

But unfortunately, when people see or read about the giveaway, they will do anything because they think that the giveaway is real, even if they need to send their documents. That will need our concern if we don't want to get scam, and if we read about the giveaway, we need to search for the other news to know more about that.
6937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is here to stay on: September 05, 2020, 04:30:25 AM
I once asked a Chinese merchant in my country if she knew about Bitcoin and she said no, that she did not know any millionaires yet. I smiled and told her that anyone can buy Bitcoin doesn't need to be a millionaire.

There are people who need to know about Bitcoin and the key is in us to bring them the best information so that they do not miss the opportunity to belong to our community of bitcoiners and that they can get the best out of it.

If you ask more people out there, you will found out the same answer that you already asked for the Chinese merchant in your country because people are too busy with their business, and they don't search the new trend on the internet. Cryptocurrency is not yet spread to all countries, and that makes people out there still don't know about crypto.

But whether those people realize or not, bitcoin will be staying with us, and no matter how many people will use it, bitcoin will grow more in the future, and we already saw that happens.

Some people used bitcoin as an investment instrument, and they hope that they will have wealth from bitcoin in the future.
6938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Regulations in online Gambling sites on: September 05, 2020, 02:19:19 AM
The main issue is that if you are playing at a prohibited site with a VPN and lets suppose you won a jackpot or a big win. The site may hold your withdraw and ask for your KYC. Since you will produce the KYC of a prohibited country, all your winning may be seized and you will be denied of your current balance too. Probably you account will be terminated once they see you violating their terms and conditions.

If that person wants to withdraw all of his win money, yes, the casino will ask about the KYC. But if he can withdraw for small money and not withdraw all money in one time, he will avoid the alarm for withdrawing big money. But what we see many times, people don't delay to withdraw all of the money, but they try to withdraw the money, which makes the casino check their account. And from that, we see many gamblers have a problem in withdrawing the money.

So from that, I think it's about how we can control ourselves, not just in losing the money, but also in winning the money because we don't want to get investigated by the casino or government. Even if the government wants to regulate using limitations of the money that can be used for gambling, we don't have to worry because we can control ourselves.
6939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You have to prove that you can take the loss on: September 05, 2020, 01:17:07 AM
That is why the best way to Enjoy gambling is to Play with friends,i mean those people that closest to you so no matter what happens the Game is just a game and all will be happy with the result.

When we play gambling with friends, we might have a competition between us because I see that some people who play gambling can turn out serious playing. They don't use gambling to enjoy the time or have fun, but they feel that is the real competition between them.

But if they can feel have fun and enjoy gambling, they will not have a problem when someone loses at the end of the games because they can accept the result. So at this point, I think it's about how the gamblers can be wise and get the consequences inside the gambling games, even if they lose in the end.
6940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gambling in the wake of covid-19 on: September 05, 2020, 12:15:22 AM
All of the answers to those questions for me is NO. I don't feel that I have a problem with gambling. I can now control myself in gambling because I realize that gambling will not give me the way to make money. I consider playing gambling is just to have fun and enjoy my time, not more. I don't think that I need to use more money to play gambling, nor I don't try to chase my loss of money because I don't have any luck to get it back.

I agree that if we want to solve gambling, especially addicted to gambling, we need to have willpower and supports. This support could come from our family, friends who close to us, remind us, and stay beside us to help us solve the problem.

We can't blame people if they tend to gamble in this pandemic because they will have many reasons for gamble. But if they use gambling to make money, that will not be good for them, and they need to realize as soon as possible before it's too late.
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