There, I've fixed it for you  


Correct. I don't know what game is Tesla playing, but all this sounds against the logic of their previous investment: selling some and telling they sold, now no longer accepting Bitcoin ... it already sounds like they've sold more than they've announced and now they're dragging the price down to buy back.

On the other hand, I think that the last correction is more related to what happens on stock market than to this not-that-important announcement (since, let's face it, how many would give up Bitcoin for a car?)

Bitcoin mining was always using whatever electricity found, although I expect the hydro power be used much more.
However, I don't know what game Tesla is playing, since if they didn't sell and also don't plan to buy, they just hurt (for short term) the "value" of their investment (although they're still on profit, I know that too).

Now I wonder how long until SpaceX stops accepting altcoins. 

I'm glad that it's fixed.

And about wallet, my main wallet is on PC and it's Electrum. But on Android I do use Mycelium, since it's one of the few that works with hardware wallet.
So my advice is to put your coins onto a hardware wallet and then select your software wallet accordingly.

And for the record, this way of handling "accounts" is not unique for Mycelium, I've heard of this approach on other software too, my advice is to avoid as possible the use of multiple accounts if you want to avoid surprises. HD wallets do create as many addresses you want, hence the use of more accounts is usually not needed.

Interesting contest, although I'm somewhat surprised that Random.org is used instead of something based on a certain block hash, as it should be done in any bitcoin-related contest...

Nu ma refeream la OP, ci la postarea la care am facut quote (chiar daca gol).


Poftim, https://ninjastic.space/post/56958515, respectiv https://ninjastic.space/topic/5326855
Eu inca zic ca a fost spam.


Corect. Cantitatea limitata de moneda are acest efect, nu ai ce-i face. Cat timp exista cerere pretul va urca, intrucat oferta va fi din ce in ce mai limitata sau mai scumpa (sau ambele).

You mean that you've selected 12 words from the combo box and it said that your words or checksum are incorrect?

Edit: if you can add the missing accounts, go on that route, it's safer.

Will you force them do this?
And if not, then how you incentivize the miners and how will you stop a malicious attacker build/incentivize bigger power and attack your chain?


True, but your settings/restrictions made this the only remaining viable option.


One where miners are paid for their effort. This leading to tx fees, and possibly the lack of options related the waste of unused coins.


Limited supply is not enough. You also need demand for it. Just look around there are plenty of crypto coins with under 1 cent pricing and no real chance to get to higher valuation.


Sure, but you're just provide the income that allows them stay lazy, don't you?

And then you'll need a way to handle the money not redeemed.


So you don't know how  Me neither and I don't see how this could be achieved. I mean that I think that it cannot be achieved.

Interesting info. Since I've never used the default wallet, it doesn't allow me create HD wallets from +.

Still, if they say that all the accounts are derived from the same seed, I'll assume that they just use different derivation paths there, hence there's 2 directions you could try:
1. Try to add a few more accounts to your wife's phone if Mycelium allows it. Maybe you'll receive the ones you're missing.
2. if you have a safe* laptop at hand: get the code of IanColeman website, run it offline, put the seed there play with the BIP value to get the first character of the address right, then play with the numbers from Account (maybe also External/Internal), maybe you find the address that hold your coins. And there's also the private key for it.

However, it's assumptions over assumptions, more like a shoot in the dark, still, it's not difficult to try. Good luck!
If this doesn't yield any result, sorry, you may be restoring from a wrong / old seed.

Edit: you made a post in another thread on mycelium. That guy you're asking is inactive since 2019 and your post may get deleted for bumping too old posts. Just fyi...

You need a smartphone or laptop, you need internet. Poor people may not have that. So it's not as convenient to use as you want to present it.
A crypto that has low/no fee and fast processing will not have miners, because nobody will work for free, nobody would pay for electricity for you and so on. What you ask for is a centralized garbage you'll call cryptocurrency. So it's a no.
As just said, that will be either insecure (no miners) either centralized.
If you want self-defence at these requirements, only the centralized option remains. Until now you have proven that you don't understand crypto. Now you continue by proving you also don't understand economics. You want things you cannot do. There's no way to preserve value for this... proposal on the free market.
Then you want to do something with money.. something that cannot be done with money. It's human nature. How on earth can "discouraging laziness" for everybody if they get for free what they need?! What planet are you from?!


Yes, but else you'll end up without coins because that you'll continuously waste them. But since it'll be a centralized system, maybe you'll handle with reversing transactions for unused money after a while and you won't need unlimited supply after all if you don't want to.
On a proper blockchain reversible transactions are the worse possible idea. But here reversible transactions will be just fine, since the system is centralized and only yours. And it will not be a blockchain either.


You never answered how people will get this "coin" without it being for free, but still not having to buy it or work for it, hence everybody, including me, still assumes you give it for free.
Also, I think that you fail to understand that you are heading towards a wrong direction, one that cannot be implemented and sustained.

Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous, so you have to break the chain. Using only one exchange doesn't help.

The usual choice is use of mixers, which was already explained and might work, especially if you deposit bigger amounts then withdraw multiple times.

The problem is that at such small amounts most choices are either impossible (CoinJoin), either not feasible because of the prices/fees (use of exchanges).
For example you can do it with 2 exchanges: deposit Bitcoin to exchange 1, exchange to [whatever], move [whatever] to exchange 2, sell for Bitcoin and withdraw to the donation address.
You'll see that the exchange/withdrawal fees will make this kind of tasks inefficient. And also Exchange 2 can link those funds to your name if they want to.

All in all, I see two possible options:
1. Mixers
2. Get them accept Monero and go anonymous directly.

I don't use trading bots, I no longer trade.
From your post you look like you advertise a trading bot instead of asking. However, if you want to get more info, nowadays there are sites that compare trading bots so you can get an idea. One that's imho pretty good/fair is https://tradingbot.info/, you can take a look.

I would add that on amounts of 100$ you should be very careful with the fees.
From what I've read about Swan (I didn't hear of it before, so DYOR), they have no withdrawal fee.
As for Kraken, which is a more popular exchange, from what I've read the verification may be easier, especially for small amount, the deposit is for free only if you use certain transfer methods, but there's a withdrawal fee and you'll end up paying 8.58 USD worth of Bitcoin at current prices.
Unfortunately most exchanges work with this kind of withdrawal fees (imho they try to discourage people from withdrawing Bitcoin from their vaults).

OP, I'm impressed by the way you're doing your "homework" in this matter. I wish I'd see more newcomers into Bitcoin like you!


I think that OP is from US, hence he will have to use binance.us. And I don't know what are the rules and fees there.
Afaik the international binance.com (where you should be able to buy bitcoin without KYC) doesn't accept US residents.

Da, e un exchange din Ro, cu mentiunea ca aveau/au cateva ghisee unde poti schimba "face to face". Dar va trebui sa-i intrebi tu daca sau in ce limite iti iau datele de identificare.

As mai adauga ca daca faci schimbul P2P si depui de mana banii in banca, sunt sanse si atunci ca banca sa te intrebe de provenienta banilor, mai ales daca suma este mare.
Si, cel putin in teorie, orice ai face, ar trebui sa depui declaratie de venit si sa platesti taxe. La ce (nu) se face cu acei bani, sunt si eu de acord ca statul nu merita asemenea "bunatate" din partea noastra, dar s-ar putea sa dormi mai linistit.

Some people tend to "look back" and have regrets, some keep looking forward. Too many don't understand that's unhealthy to look back because you'll always find something you could have done different, better.
This being said, it's clear that selling Bitcoin for NFT turns out to be a bad business more often than not. But OP should (and seems to) take it as a lesson instead of regretting.


Indeed. It's a valuable lesson and you've learned it.
And keep in mind that in the same way all who got burned in the ICO craze warned that NFT is not a good investment and you've ignored that, many of the next ones to come will be burned by the next similar craze, just because some don't believe the warnings and "want" to learn from own experience.

Mycelium is backing up only its own HD wallet.
Did you add the other wallets to it by private key? Then where are those private keys, didn't you store them for safe keeping?

About physically accessing the files you need, I am 99% sure you would need the phone to be rooted...   [but I leave this to those more experienced with phones' internals]

Wow, indeed. Somehow I failed to quantify the current value of DOGE, in my head 1-2 DOGE tx fee was "cheap". Thanks for the eye opening.
And yes, the conclusion is that if coin becomes valuable and of high daily use, the transaction fees will grow, no matter how the coin is called.
The miners do like to get paid...

If you don't give them for free, it means that they have to either buy them, which is already possible almost everywhere over the world, or work for them, which need some skills and luck, but it's possible too. So I fail to understand what you mean. If you don't give for free, there's no way you can give to everybody, they won't afford it or don't want it.

The bridge you want is, on some extent, made by social-oriented political parties, which in theory give out some minimal money to the poor (and in reality, in most cases, encourage laziness and basically buy votes with public money), in many cases sacrificing a proper development of the country (at least that's what has happened in recent history of my country).

I've noticed that wherever political parties are involved, greed, corruption and laziness are present. We need something worldwide and new (none of the current or past political regimes). But that's "science fiction" again.

But the bridge you want is not necessarily related to bitcoin. Plus that I would give money to people in a currency that doesn't have limited supply and irreversible transactions, since there's always the chance people won't withdraw that money.

1. The oldest Electrum wallet I could find on the internet is the last on this page: https://web.archive.org/web/20130324034541/http://code.google.com/p/win-electrum/downloads/list
But it's "only" 0.46, from 2012.

2. I think that blockchain.info web wallet was already available. I don't know though what were they using back then, but it could be the recovery words from there?!

Well, while last time I've checked (more than 1 year ago) you could withdraw Dogecoin from exchanges at 1-2 DOGE fee and the wallet shows DOGE, withdraing SATS will cost over 1000 sats/transaction and will still show Bitcoin in the wallet.
So I guess that if a rebranding is going to happen, it will have to be done for the wallets too and I have no idea how could the tx fees get adjusted downwards...

Edit: Of course, you'll have to rebrand your signature too to 1 SAT = 1 SAT 

Apologies for my ignorance on SATS. Aren't they the subunit of Bitcoin? And if so, even if an exchange would list them separately, how would one be able to withdraw, for example "the huge amount" of 250 SATS or whatever is under dust amount, not mentioning the Bitcoin minimum amount and withdrawal fees the exchanges use to ask?
And where will those SATS go? Won't be that to a Bitcoin wallet, getting back to the "depressingly low" 0.0... values?