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6941  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much on: September 17, 2017, 04:30:31 PM
you hate u have no more money to buy cheap now  Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

Me: censored

Actually I have to buy something right now, I have no money, only some BTC and I really really hate that I have to sell so cheap.
I hope that next time I get into this situation Bitcoin will be higher than $4500 again.
I'd hope that I never again run out of money, but that'd be unrealistic...
This do really sucks and I have really learned this mistake in the past on which we should really have back-up funds incase of this opportunities on buying cheap coins in the market because we wont really know anytime there would be opportunity but having no money on those times cant really be avoided specially if we are a type of person who do really like on going all in when it comes into investment.
6942  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bounty Manager Salary on: September 17, 2017, 03:44:48 PM
I am wondering, how much do Bounty manager get paid?
Why wont you ask them? Cheesy For sure they wont say such thing because this thing is somehow private and managers do have the right to hide on whats the actual salary that they do earn.Heres an idea for you. Bitcoin signature campaigns and Altcoin Bounty signature managers do have different rates for sure and the token that they do receive.One would receive pure on btc payment and the other side do earn on tokens on which altcoin he does manage.It is actually the agreement between different parties.
6943  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what is ICO and why every day new coin is there on: September 17, 2017, 02:47:56 PM
Hello,

I was wondering what ICO is ? and why every day there is new ICO coin thing is coming in the market claiming lot of things , lots of bonus , lots of coins etc .

I am still unable to understand what is going on .

if this will stay like this at the end of 2017 there will be thousands of ICO kind of things

Please help understanding this ?

Thank you
ICO stands Initial Coin Offering on which project to make crowd funding to get investors for the success of their project and helped on its development and as you said there are lots of ICO popping out every other single day which we can really say its hard to choose or the investors would really have the hard decision on selecting project and also the success rate of project would be affected because not all ICO would be funded which they do end up on failing.
6944  Economy / Economics / Re: Someone from 2020 contacted me on: September 17, 2017, 02:18:32 PM
Hahaha.  Cheesy

Reminds me of a poster on another forum who claimed to be from the future. He called himself John Titor. Its a famous internet story. Someone might even have patented the method of time travel he claimed to have used.

I think if we still have bitcoin in 2020 the price could be higher than $12,000.
I do believe the same thing too which price on upcoming 2020 would really be much higher than $12000 but somehow those things been said by that guy contacted him is actually possible and really realistic and the thing that hurts my eyes is that Omisego coin.I cant see the reason on what he was doing there on the top 4th place. haha
6945  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Group to Pump coins on: September 17, 2017, 01:44:39 PM
I do not trust the pumper group because I have suffered huge losses due to follow it.
I prefer to join the trading signal group because it is more accurate.
Some traders use pumper groups that exist on the telegram. with free or paid service. some signals have good accuracy but some have not proven accurate.
All are free to choose to believe it or not.
Every trader knows the risks...
Yes,there are groups which do give free tips regarding on the coins that they would able to pump yes and its free of charge but this is actually depend on traders choice if they would join with it or not.We do really know the risk because we wont know if its accurate or those people are just using us.I have join lots of groups regarding on this pumping a coin but talking on accuracy ratio I can say that most of them are just giving random tips.
6946  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lower transactions fees now? Bitcoin is back it is! on: September 17, 2017, 01:13:10 PM
Fees 0.016836 BTC
not all transactions use cheap fees. I don't know why it happened.
but lately a lot of transaction fee is very cheap
It is true that some of the exchanges as well as some online wallets still charge a higher transaction fees even though the price of transaction has gone down,it might take some time to see a change as we as a group need to voice our opinion to these services so that they reduce their fees ,the transaction fees has gone down if you are using your own wallet and it is a good sign for bitcoin users.
This is what I observed on some services on which they are stuck on charging their users on the high fees we do see before.They are still charging the same amount as of now which do really sucks and I decide not to make any transactions as of now.This is why I do make alternatives on using Electrum which the fees do really goes back to normal and not hurting me too much when I do send some funds on other wallets.
6947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ripple XRP has finally overtaken BitcoinCash today on: September 17, 2017, 12:49:09 PM
Both ripple and bitcoin cash are still far away from the leaders-bitcoin and ethereum.
I find it a little bit strange that some altcoin which price is 0.17 USD has around 6.7 billion market cap and it`s above litecoin.Perhaps some big whale is pumping ripple XRP or bitcoin users are buying ripple with the money from the btc they have sold during the panic selling.
If you do try to look at on the overall circulating supply x on its current price it would sum up on its total market cap. Gets? Knowing that the supply of BCH is just 16m coins as of now and xrp do have hundreds of millions but well I don't really have too much interest on these coins though. but for those people who do have the funds I can say these coins are really good for shorting.
6948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you read ICOs white paper before investing? on: September 17, 2017, 12:13:54 PM
I see a lot of people that do not bother to read the paper,
I try to do max due deligence before buying any coin.

What about you?
Yes of course,I do read up their white paper together with their developers transparency on a certain ICO project because this is my basis before I do put my money.I do value my money and even though there are lots of scam ico as of now but its better to risk something if you do really like to earn something.This is why reading their white paper is always advisable if you can see that there is a potential then its the time we do make an investment.
6949  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin @4500$!!!! on: September 17, 2017, 11:15:21 AM
I found this picture from my local languange board. From the topic, he said if JP morgan said bitcoin is fraud, but they buy a lot bitcoin when the price is down as you can see on the pic.


English picture version

But idk if this true or not. But, i just hope the price will recover asap.
I do agree on what you are showing here which when Morgan said about bitcoin that it is a fraud people are buying when its still on dip.It might be one of the reasons but the main reasons on Price Dip is on the news about China banning ICO and closure of exchanges.This is the thing which I do strongly believe the reasons why did the price go down but now we are somehow recovering.
6950  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think the price will DROP MORE? on: September 17, 2017, 10:39:14 AM
Hi,

Do you think the price will DROP MORE?
Today every big news website talking about the CHINA BAN.

- wall street journal and many others


What do tou think?
I don't think that this drop will continue, I don't think that bitcoin will ever go below the $3000 mark anytime soon, now that recently the government of China announced that it is impossible for China to ban bitcoin, they are just trying to regulate it: http://finance.people.com.cn/n1/2017/0912/c1004-29530593.html. The Article further mentioned that the ban will not affect existing currencies built on blockchain, this ban is specifically for ICOs. This will influence the value to go up in a few weeks/months, reaching new highs again. We should just consider this crash an opportunity to buy bitcoin at a lower value, and for those invested since the crash began, I can assure you that they will profit within short term.
the situation is worse than you said,  now the  chinese regulator  wants  to close  all altcoins exchange  to protect the  ecnomic markets ,  but  I think this is a wrong decision . Just wait for  half years ,  everything will be clear.
They would close those exchanges but later on they would re-enable them to operate once again but now on a regulated way which does signifies that bitcoin will recover its price if those exchanges would operate again as normal.For now we are stabilizing somehow on this price range I don't know actually what would be the possible movement but I do see this would really be the new floor and going on below 3k price wont happen again.
6951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Has the China ban affected ICO fund raising? on: September 16, 2017, 06:02:16 PM
It will certainly have an effect but he world is a large place and although China plays a huge part I think we'll be alright.
China does really have give some effects regarding on this ICO ban but same as you said the world is a big place and China isn't the only one who is engage on cryptocurrency ICO's which we would really be just alright and would able to stand no matter what the things they would do.Its just a single Country thinking off there are still lots of country left would potentially still support.
6952  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bear trap or continuing upward trend?? on: September 16, 2017, 05:18:36 PM
It's hard to say just yet. I am no professional in this, but as far as I can see the price has roughly stabilized around $3600 this could be the new floor. According to me if we don't see a dip down to around 3000-3200 in next couple of days we can probably assume that this isn't a bear trap.
Same here I'm not a professional trader since I cant say if its a bear trap or not knowing price is too volatile and mainly affected by news happening on bitcoin.As you said if the price wont go back down on 3000 price then for sure anytime as of now we would really see the new floor which we can assume price would rise up on next month for this year.For now the best thing to do is always keep an eye on dip prices which we can able to hedge on making profits.
6953  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Businessman be the Owner of Bitcoin Market ? on: September 16, 2017, 03:52:34 PM
What if all the rich people come together and buy most of the BITCOINS can this lead to the control of power again in the hands of few.
If they do have the money to buy on,why not? They can manipulate price on that one and could affect the price easily but not totally the owner of bitcoin.No one owns bitcoin but as an investor you would able to give effects but thinking off to be a Big investor on bitcoin you would need billions of money in order to be considered as a whale for sure Cheesy
6954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO & November 'possible' fork on: September 16, 2017, 03:11:12 PM
If you're planning for an ICO in the near future & your timeline is flexible, (i.e. its start & end dates), is it wise to avoid the month of November due to the 'possible' BTC fork?

I know Alt & ICOs could always be a good backup plan for the folks who are afraid to keep their BTC during the instability time but there is always that group who prefers to jump from the Crypto boat completely (& possibly gets back again when the dust settles) 
For now I don't put any worries on this November event the thing that worries me off on this last day of this month on which we do know China did make implementations on closing exchanges.It would really affects bitcoins price and so on with altcoins too. November is fast approaching but for now we should mind of first on the possible recent event that would happen on this bitcoin world.

China used to make 15% of the market, itīs not like 1.5 billion people were in cryptos.
Yes,they do really give some impact on cryptocurrency world since they do have the power and the funds to affect it but well no matter how powerful they are they cant put an end on bitcoin or any other coins in the market.It can affect but its not the reason for it to die.If this upcoming November fork would happen then expect that the thing do happen back in August 1 event will surely happen again this is why we should ready our stashes Smiley
6955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I always lose all my tokens and btc on gambling~ on: September 16, 2017, 02:47:49 PM
My tip for you to not lose all your token in Gambling very easy is not gambling anymore. Keep working hard, you will be payback good. No need to gambling , risk all money that you have.

A simple tip but working even though I suffered nosebleed for reading your post. Hehehe. Just joking. But you have a point. The only way to avoid losing is to turn away on gambling and focus on work that gave a fixed monthly income without any risk. Kudos!
Yeah, nothing can be better than giving up on gambling. If we really come to think of it now, actually this is the only way of terminating all the loss. Instead of going through all this suffering, I think the gambler can earn good profits if he utilizes his capital in a more working method like trading or even saving bitcoins will do the work.
The gambler does not use gambling to get back his lost is enough to save money. Many people will lose more money while chasing their lost. If you control this and try to do trading or holding your coins for a long time is the best way to recover your loss, and it will increase your bankroll.
If you do hold up your bitcoin instead of using it on playing gambling even more because you are chasing loses then for sure it would really pay out but I do believe that most gambler will not be patient enough to do such thing.They will definitely use up their money to play gambling no matter what as long they do know that they do have money to spent on.If you don't like to lose up bitcoin then you should not play gambling at all.
6956  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you deal with loss? on: September 16, 2017, 02:22:04 PM
So in trading how do you deal with loss? For example you've invested in an alt and now it has fallen quite hard and you're on the brink of losing all your bitcoin you invested in it.
How do you actually deal with it? Do you wait and keep on waiting in hope that it will bounce back up and return your investment or you sell and get whatever left of your investment?

When I lose in the trading or gambling, I always telling to myself that it is all right and it is part for becoming a good trader. I know that I will gain a lot of profit by learning in my mistakes.

Yeah you're mistake is a chance to try harder and this can help us to make a better person.
Well like you, when I lose I just call it a day and move on. Sometimes I just eat comfort foods instead of thinking what I lose. This is I always do and really works for me everytime.
Getting stressed cant really be avoided specially when we see that we are losing money this is why easing it would really be helpful for our future trades and learning from our mistakes is always suggested when it comes to trading because when we are already experienced enough on this field we would already know the things we must supposed to do when it comes on unexpected things happen along the way.
6957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO & November 'possible' fork on: September 16, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
If you're planning for an ICO in the near future & your timeline is flexible, (i.e. its start & end dates), is it wise to avoid the month of November due to the 'possible' BTC fork?

I know Alt & ICOs could always be a good backup plan for the folks who are afraid to keep their BTC during the instability time but there is always that group who prefers to jump from the Crypto boat completely (& possibly gets back again when the dust settles) 
For now I don't put any worries on this November event the thing that worries me off on this last day of this month on which we do know China did make implementations on closing exchanges.It would really affects bitcoins price and so on with altcoins too. November is fast approaching but for now we should mind of first on the possible recent event that would happen on this bitcoin world.
6958  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The dust has settled...how did you fare? on: September 16, 2017, 11:57:18 AM
Damn that huge green candle is impressive, I have never seen anything like that. We went from $2972 to $3820 in no time. I bet people that trusted Goldman Sachs (which claimed it would go to $2200) and had shorts opened for as low as that price are now pretty much broke. How could you doubt bitcoin? it always comes back.

The sell off that followed was tiny compared to the green handle we had. We are not going below $3000 again, possibly ever.
Checking on the charts that green candle was indeed impressive and for those who bought on 2900 would really dance on ez profits in a single day swing trade.For those who did able to get in the right time.Congratulations! Those are easy profits without a sweat but somehow risky because we didn't know that those entries might give even more negative if the price did continue to dip down.
6959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What ICO's / Presale should i break my crypto virginity with? on: September 15, 2017, 06:50:25 PM
Hello everyone!
I am new to altcoins and looking to get involved in the cryptocurrency world. I have $1000 dollars to invest into pre-sales / ICO's.

I have a friend who recommended me Crowdholding. https://ico.crowdholding.com/ Anyone else heard of them?

What do you recommend I should invest in?
 
Thanks everyone for your responses!
Dont focus only on a single ICO since you can really choose on the projects which you do see that do have potential. Check on this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0 . You would find lots of ICO which you can able to read up on their roadmap whitepaper which you can able to identify which project are good to put our money on.
6960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: September 15, 2017, 05:59:41 PM
all about addiction, We will continue to try before we can get the result we want. even though we know the risks, but we will do everything to get something big in a way that looks easy.
 
 
actually those who still remain gambling realize that this will be more harm to them if we continue to play. but they just want to get big results later on

Or rather they are in the foolish state of trying to earn back there loss. It is a pity that I myself sometimes is dreaming of getting my losses back.
You are not the only who are on this thing but most gamblers would really have this kind same of aims which we do really strive to chase our loses while playing gambling and those emotions do really come out on a middle of the game or when we are already losing and as a human being its just really normal thing to think off this is why we should really have a good self control and awareness if we dont like that gambling would destroy us.
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