1 GHS for free = Is to lure newbies, actually you can't withdraw what you can earn from those free packages. And you will end up depositing more and get scammed.
10% referral commission = To attract new investors and pay old investors with new money (HYIP model)
Cloud mining = Actually every cloud mining services like this one which claims huge return are simply scam ponzi and they are not mining any real bitcoin.
ahh, was waiting for the "you have to deposit to withdraw" line... yup, typical scam. |
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interact with people, that the natural way.
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dan's on power down, and in 5 days there will be millions of steem flooding the market. good fucking luck with locking away steem |
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Hi
I m new to bitshares
Can you tell me what is your best / safest way to secure your bitshares please.
the best would be a desktop version
thanks a lot
follow the backup instructions. |
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it's a ponzi/scam.
and those "anyone using xyz scam" are very obvious shill attempts.
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increasingly cornered to the OP, where ico Qtum can be raised over $ 10 million, is a crowdsale explosion that occurred in mid-semester. although there is drama in the team Qtum, but raise more than $ 10 million is a pride by the team Qtum.
where's the proof of 10m? worst try to shill here bro. |
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I think I will just exchange cash for Bitcoin for now. Or earn through affiliates.
a very good plan! |
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Ah, I spoke to soon again, they went and pumped it anyway  wait until dan unloads his stash |
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Wow amazing $10m raised in just 90 minutes so it looking this will be finished in next few hours as like people are investing into this project.
Just so you know when Patrick did Bitbay he bought almost 50% of it and gave himself a refund with free coins. So in this case the majority of this was bought by him and the others Patrick works with. If he holds close to 100% then he will try to dump them for the highest price. The chat log of Patrick/Steven Dai doing this is all over Bitcointalk. However I have tons more chat logs from Bay of him doing that to us. I've had to endure him dumping his Bay while I developed for 2 years. Don't ever trust this soulless theif. So no Qtum didn't raise 10 million in a few minutes. Investors beware. Even if what you say is true, having been to China and seeing the stuff people will invest hundreds of thousands of dollars in, I honestly think there was more than enough demand to have sold this out in only a couple hours. I know people there who've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on rock collections and jade and other similar nonsense just because there aren't sufficient investment options in China. And since all the other developers know about this guy's history I'm sure they're watching him more closely than they otherwise would, so presumably he wouldn't be able to pull anything like that unless he has everyone colluding on it-given the supposed investors involved I would seriously doubt that he could pull this off unless he wants to end up in a Chinese gulag. It's one thing to rip off random people on the internet, but if you rip off a founder of Kuaidi you'll end up in a bad place real quick. Anyways, the ICO is over anyways so it is what it is. At this point let's just see if Qtum actually develops into something interesting or if I just wasted a few thousand bucks. Well when he screwed us at BitBay he was in on it with Lin from BTER who used phantom BTC to fund it and Bobsurplus and Gekko. And what I'm saying is true, its all over Bitcointalk it was famous. I dealt with him first hand and he said he would stay and he didn't and kept the funds he got. Luckily he is out of BitBay now but watch your ass. And any project that sells all that in 90 minutes is paying themselves. I've seen this with my own eyes man on the project that I have now taken over. Do you seriously think rich people don't work together to steal from people?? There is no oversight the devs have into Patrick, at best they will have a multisig assuming the exchanges don't refund Patrick first. How do you think they got rich in the first place? By lying. And just so you know, as long as Dais partners are secretive about their refunds it can go 10+ years unnoticed. Look at Enron... that company didn't even exist and was making billions for untold amounts of years. And how long did Bernie Madoff make money off people?? Maybe you haven't been paying attention. But I'm not going to fight any investors here, I've already said I will stay out of it. You have all been clearly told what goes on. If you want to gamble nobody is stopping you. Dai can shit gold bricks but that won't change what he is. This is what I've been giving my life to fight. To prevent deception using double deposit escrow. Sadly the only way to stop guys like Dai is with a barbed club. that's how I imagine almost every ethereum ICO sells out "within minutes". but yeah, you can't stop dumb, let them burn |
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I see fancy graphics and immediately grow suspicious
and always ask for proof. but this could be internal trades to push the ICO, anyways, I think this is artificial. |
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whatever you do, don't end up as a salty bagholder. I learned my lesson in BitShares. It's profitable to follow bytemaster, just don't wait until the ship is sinking
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Will be more distribution rounds?
is it too complicated to visit the website and read this stuff? |
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if you think 4% per anno is not much... well, there's less risk than ivnesting in a bankroll for example.
I think this is not investing in bankroll, this is just like a saving with interest. it is investing in a bankroll for 1/3... does anyone of you ever read the terms of this, or is this just signature post farming? |
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if you think 4% per anno is not much... well, there's less risk than ivnesting in a bankroll for example.
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Uhhhh. How is this funded? How is that btc being invested? I don't think this is a good idea. This means that withdraws won't be instant?
how about you follow the link and read the terms? |
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The interest rate is very low, 4% annually? Who will freeze his money in a site for 4% annually?
I think they should add more games if they want to attract new users, it is better than a low interest rate, while there are tons of investments programs that accept Bitcoin.
4% is a terrific rate, actually absolutely, plus you'll get payout every day = compounding. AND you can always withdraw, which is a huge plus. |
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Just listened to the beyond bitcoin hangout...
What do I get for investing in IoC? I understand that you only get the first core token, which will eventually not be needed in the future for swaps... so its value should decrease in theory.
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i don't like qtum team, but i will invest this project.
best of luck. you'll need it |
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