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701  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of Farming. on: July 09, 2023, 04:17:54 PM
Currently all agricultural fields are competing to be able to get maximum results, then vertical farming is their choice but for some farmers still use the old way so that their yields cannot reach the maximum number, so now is the time for farmers to follow vertical farming because there are so many positive things they can get for example their products can be consistent and greater yields, So it's time to make a change for farmers.
Only old farmers who are unfamiliar with technology still use traditional farming methods without relying on new methods for their agriculture, so they also have to be satisfied with the results that are not optimal. Meanwhile, farmers who are a little smart in growing crops, of course, will always look for alternatives that make it easier for them to get satisfying yields because sometimes methods or efforts to make maximum yields also have to apply methods that are not so easy for farmers to do.
702  Economy / Economics / Re: Automating your savings will help you save more on: July 09, 2023, 03:53:15 PM
it's good to make yourself aware of collecting money, if you get a salary every month, then whatever amount is better to set aside, in an automatic way like this it is indeed useful for those who are just starting to learn to manage finances, but for those who are used to managing finances I don't think so it becomes a problem to gather intentions, because they have allocated finances neatly. for me instead of collecting money like that it would be better to collect assets, because whatever money we have left over can be realized in cryptocurrency assets, and we will benefit in the future

Collecting cryptocurrency assets must also start with collecting money first, even though there are many ways to look for it for free, because usually good cryptocurrency is always difficult to get for free. So buying it with money or with a monthly salary left over is the best option because it is also a more precise and fast way, but in terms of managing finances I usually always make allocations based on my own wishes even though the options you say are also very good because almost similar to an investment that might be very useful for the future if it is really profitable.
703  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Internet Apocalypse? on: July 09, 2023, 03:18:51 PM
I see news about NASA warning of an internet apocalypse because of the solar storm.

If the internet apocalypse happens no doubt it will severely damage the global communications system. and also all traditional markets will
crash hard. It will also happen to bitcoin. But I don't think the internet apocalypse will do a huge damage to the banking system. because we can do banking things manually. because there is physical money we can touch. So I don't think this will have a huge impact on the dollar or physical currencies. 

However I want to know your idea of what will happen to the bitcoin network if the internet apocalypse happens. when we compare bitcoin to traditional currencies. Is this going to be the disadvantage?
(Please don't mention other consequences here. Just discuss the bitcoin network, price impact, banking system and traditional market.)

I only read this kind of news some time ago and did not really study it thoroughly. But if you want responses from some people here, I can only give my view that the banking sector will also experience difficulties if the internet apocalypse really comes and most people will also experience difficulties because now there are so many people who rely on the internet for their business and in marketing whatever goods they have. So all sectors will experience difficulties if the internet apocalypse really comes as said in the news, although for now I still don't believe in what is said in the news.
704  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are you not hodling on: July 09, 2023, 02:41:00 PM
I think most of the campaign participants are of course looking for money and capital to invest and hold for the long term, but there are various types of people like you describe, apart from that there are some campaign participants who choose to share their income into several posts. some of them use it for needs and some are used for investment, there are also those who will only invest in main coins, thus converting their tokens to invest in bitcoin. because there are many incidents of new projects whose prices are reduced to ashes, and the projects are not progressing according to the roadmap

It's just part of the desire of each person who has participated in the campaign or who has earned income through the campaign. And I think it can't be denied because they also do it according to the needs and desires of their own hearts. After all, it's basically never wrong to do something because everyone is free to take any results they get through the campaign in any direction they like with a better goal.

However, what is seen now is that more people are investing and saving major coins like Bitcoin because remembering that there are the best moments ahead, so there are many people who are willing to exchange any tokens in order to get Bitcoin and hope for big profits in the next year through halving moments.
705  Economy / Speculation / Re: Know your time to HOLD on: July 08, 2023, 05:45:55 PM
What I can conclude from your post is that Bitcoin is the nature of an asset that takes time to buy and sell and that waiting for the desired price is important. Even if you feel disappointed in yourself because the price did not reach the expected level, however, your determination to make money with Bitcoin remains strong. Bitcoin HODLing is a sound strategy because it has the potential to provide positive results in the long term, despite price fluctuations in the short term.
Another conclusion that can be said for this is about sufficient patience when someone is still trying to make a holding for a long time. Because if someone only thinks about the price in the short term while holding Bitcoin, it is more a trading effort that usually only looks at profits for a certain amount. Meanwhile, Holding's mission is actually for greater profits with the achievement of a time that may not be short so that someone will not always check prices in the market and feel worried about price declines in the short term.
706  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are you not hodling on: July 08, 2023, 05:28:26 PM
We have a different status,we also have different income we have different works, most of us wanted to hold but because of the financial problem they cannot hold btc, some of us here is a holder it is because they have a free funds or thier financial status is good that is why they can hold a different coin they wanted to hold.
Such a thing cannot be denied because basically holding anything must have basic capital or other supporting capital so that a person does not easily sell what he is holding or what he is keeping for a long time. Because letting go of what we hold on to is not always for the benefits we have seen, but there are also times when there is a sudden need for money for life so that it is sometimes forced to be done by someone.

The real is that I don't hold any tokens because I don't have enough money. Because holding requires having money that has not been put to good use. But I trade with less money than what I currently have. From which I got out with a small profit. Now I am a day trader. So I don't hold on to any token for a long time.
Being a day trader is also not wrong, because you have also learned to hold in the short term, even if it is only for the purpose of small amounts of profit. And apart from that, actually everyone also learns from small things and tries to develop themselves to be able to do big things like holding large amounts for a long period of time. So it doesn't matter if you only become a day trader because you don't have enough money to hold on for a long time because what you are doing is also a very good thing.
707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Accepting Bitcoin on: July 08, 2023, 05:14:18 PM
Since you are a newbie you must have maximum understanding about Bitcoin. You must know what Bitcoin actually is,where it originated from etc. You can't do everything in a hurry. You said Bitcoin is not supported by the government in your country, so how can you invest in Bitcoin. Do Still you telling your mother about Bitcoin is very good but it remains to be seen how your mother will take it. I guess people of previous era will take it differently. You have taken the initiative to use Bitcoin in your mother's tailor shop but how will your country's government take it? You can hold Bitcoin because it can make you a lot of profit in future.

Don't be surprised by this mate, because someone can still invest in Bitcoin without the government knowing what's in their country or without having to tell the government about what they're investing in. But if he wants to use Bitcoin at his tailor shop in terms of payment, I think he can only do it with certain people if in his country Bitcoin is still not legalized by the government for payment terms.

So he can still do these two things as long as he knows how and doesn't have to spit on many people for what he did as long as the government still views Bitcoin as a bad thing. But on the one hand, he actually has to try to convince the government about Bitcoin so that the government can issue special rules for Bitcoin users in their country. It's just that of course it's not easy for him to do because it really needs a special moment and way to do it because what he's facing is the government in his country.
708  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as an opportunity for the unbanked. on: July 08, 2023, 04:52:07 PM
I am sure that in the future there will be many people who store their assets in bitcoin because many banking investments are currently disrupted, and we can manage bitcoin assets ourselves without having to be handled by a third party, and we will be more profitable if later the bitcoin assets that we have have a price that can increase and the value will exceed interest in banking institutions that are present at this time, especially now that blockchain technology is increasingly sophisticated and security is also getting maximum.
Bitcoin is always good to save and invest for the future with several advantages that Bitcoin already has. But as long as you continue to use fiat in your personal life and cannot stay away from fiat in any way, you still really need the bank in your life even if you try to save as much Bitcoin as possible for future investment reasons. Because I really feel this way in life where I can't stay away from the bank when I still rely on fiat in my life even though on the one hand I also like to keep Bitcoin until now.
709  Economy / Speculation / Re: will bitcoin continue to rise on: July 07, 2023, 04:14:35 PM
Just a small correction, and pay attention to the price at the beginning of July, BTC is already at $ 30,700 and it will continue to rise in the next 4 days. Just excuses. many are already paid and the potential for demand is high. At least the BTC price is 31K. Even if there is a change I don't really think so.
The price of Bitcoin is still moving between $30K to $31K and that is a pretty decent price at the moment before heading to $35K and $40K as there will likely continue to be a lot of people willing to take advantage of this year to continue buying so the price increases before the year there will still be a future even if it continues to be guarded by small corrections every day.


The price is now post today's correction starting to show signs of increasing from the initial price of $ 29,701 and starting to move slowly $ 30. 361. However, I am also a bit doubtful whether this will continue to rise because in these 2 days at the weekend there will be selling even though the percentage is small.
There is no need to hesitate to upgrade, because it will always be with Bitcoin as long as there is more buying demand going on in the market. And you yourself have seen how many people support Bitcoin, where the lowest price you mentioned also happened in a short time. This indicates that currently there are still many people who want to buy Bitcoin so the potential for a price increase will still occur in the near future, although not to a very significant level.
710  Economy / Economics / Re: Landed properties is the best investment on: July 07, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
Industrial investment is best preferred to landed properties investment but landed properties is quite a profitable investment where it has the potential of Peace of mind and financial security free and less risks in a management system.
Regardless of the considerations many people have when they want to invest, the first thing that makes more people love investing is the level of return they can get after doing it. This means that consideration in the profit sector will always be more than consideration in the maintenance sector for the investment assets they have, because when an investment can be more profitable, of course anyone will be more enthusiastic about taking care of their own assets to keep them looking good.

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Landed properties investments also terms to enhance developments in the local regions where it could bring beautifications to the environments and it's a competitive section of investment where your structures could be felt outed over other new landed properties within the same region.
Land is definitely a very good investment, but it is also necessary to look at where it is located because not all land can be equal in price when it is not in a neighborhood that is liked by many people. This means that the location of the land also needs to be looked at so that the price increase can occur more quickly when someone has bought it at a lower price and it also needs to be kept clean for a certain period of time so that the land looks clean and not dirty with unwanted bushes.
711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Seniors vs Kids — in the future of Bitcoin on: July 07, 2023, 03:02:28 PM
for now bitcoin is not something that everyone has to know, and I think we know bitcoin at this time just to make a profit from bitcoin, while children will find their own way, indeed knowledge of technological development is very important to know, but don't have to go deep into it. when our children grow up, maybe bitcoin has been legalized as currency, then what we are looking for to support our children's family is basically money, and that can be obtained from their profession later. as parents we should only direct the talent of the child

Parents who know their duties in terms of guiding and educating their children will definitely not immediately give hard lessons for a child to understand. Because when someone is able to educate and look after their child properly, of course that person will also know what things they are allowed to teach their child at a certain age so that in the end they will teach things that might be harder than usual. Because not everything has to be taught from the start if a child has not had a very sufficient educational period in his life.

Regarding Bitcoin, I think Bitcoin is quite famous now and without being overly promoted, many people already know about it, although there are still many people who don't have it until now. Because there are so many discussions on Bitcoin on the internet and everyone who can connect to the internet can access several websites to read about Bitcoin and also study it carefully if they have an interest in Bitcoin.
712  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why can't I upload an avatar on my profile on: July 06, 2023, 01:01:55 PM
Hello guys, my question may seem silly but I have to ask this as I've tried all I could  to upload an avatar on my profile but to no avail and I don't know whats wrong or if anyone is experiencing this same issue or are there some restrictions on my account?

I will appreciate  if you guys just help clear me on this without much criticism please.

There is nothing wrong with you and also no one is criticizing you about this question you asked. I think a forum staff member has also provided a fairly precise answer to your question, even though it's short, but easy enough for you to understand. Now your job is just to try and be patient to upgrade your account according to the conditions that apply to everyone so that you can use the avatar you want on your own profile and at least you have to be a Full Member, not a Junior Member or Member mate.
713  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are your bitcoin May/June price analysis? on: July 06, 2023, 12:51:40 PM
Today there is a correction that is around 3% and makes the price drop below $ 25k, of course many are worried that the price will continue to drop and below $ 20k, this proves that the strategy to sell immediately when a profit is at least 10% is the best way, We see whether Bitcoin can return to $ 30K this month or not.
You said that in the middle of last month and I hope you also didn't miss the opportunity to see how the Bitcoin price was at the end of last month and also at the beginning of this month. Because I have seen how Bitcoin passed the price of $31K earlier this month even though the correction is still happening, but what makes me still optimistic is that there is still an increase in price not so long after the correction in Bitcoin. So I think the way you suggest is still not suitable for running now, especially in terms of selling Bitcoin faster.

doesn't seem to be happening and it's rising again and could be $30K, but overall since the start of the year it's seen a 2x increase, which is a very good thing. at least we hope that if there is a correction not to the same as at the beginning of the year and can be in the range of $ 17K-$ 20K, of course it is very good, especially if it can stay at $ 35K-$ 45K until the end of the year, before it will increase slowly at the beginning of entering the era of halving period in 2024.
A price range of $35K-$45K for the year is a pretty logical thing to expect as I've seen Bitcoin come close to $32K several times in the past few days. This means that Bitcoin could be at $ 35K in the near future if the increase continues and does not experience a large correction like last year. I believe this because next year there will be a halving period which is usually the best moment for Bitcoin to increase in price even more significantly.
714  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do when you have Financial Freedom? on: July 06, 2023, 12:25:14 PM
sometimes the child's wishes are different from the parents' wishes, and of course we cannot force the child's will. because many parents advise their children to continue the business that their parents have developed. as long as the child enjoys doing his hobby, the parents just have to direct him not to get off the path he has chosen, so that by doing what he likes, the child will be more enthusiastic about developing and does not have to be in accordance with the wishes of the parents
What you say is really wise, because I think a child must also be self-aware that to be a successful person it is always difficult and not easy so the direction of his own parents is of course to achieve success in himself by trying to be more independent when he has continued the efforts of her parents. So a child must be able to consider this wisely rather than prioritizing a hobby that he likes, even though a hobby can also generate a lot of money as long as it is done consistently and not just for fun.

It must also be realized that every child has his own desires and ideals,
so that the role of parents is to direct it and help develop it,
discussion between child and parent is very important.
It's very important, it's obviously very important. Because discussions between children and people really have to be there and have to be very open because this is related to business and money issues. So desires and hobbies must be distinguished correctly so as not to disturb a child's concentration, because there are many people who end up having difficulties after following their own hobbies rather than directing their parents on a better path.
715  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will World Economic Depression Affect Bitcoin? on: July 06, 2023, 11:53:44 AM
In my opinion, the world economic depression can affect Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. An economic depression can create uncertainty in financial markets as a whole, affect Bitcoin demand and adoption, and create correlations with traditional markets. Nonetheless, there is also a view that Bitcoin can serve as a hedge asset in difficult economic situations. However, please note that there is no guarantee how Bitcoin will react in a world economic depression scenario.

Now the reaction from Bitcoin itself is also very clear in the market, where price bounces upward are always there and are very visible after a price correction. I also don't think that the world's economic conditions are going well, but I still firmly believe that Bitcoin's condition will continue to improve this year and everyone can buy it now before it becomes more expensive in the market.

The world economic depression could also be affected by the existence of several large businesses whose sales were not smooth and resulted in fewer purchases. Apart from that, the large number of unemployed and the low salary received by many employees can also be a trigger so that everyone must try to save on themselves because if there are difficulties in the economic sector it will also hinder other sectors in this world.
716  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin be trusted? on: July 02, 2023, 09:23:02 AM
First of all we are under no obligation or obligation to share with others what Bitcoin is. It is up to us whether we want to do it or not. Unless someone shows us an interest in really learning about Bitcoin, which is still up to us whether we explain it to people or not, it's not that simple, right?
Because no matter what we or others say, there is and still is a risk attached to the truth and those who trust in it should be called paring risk taker, it should be you or us.

It's clearly quite simple for this kind of thing, because basically everyone has freedom in liking something and also in being interested in something so that it will show itself to everyone. This means that those who show interest in Bitcoin will definitely try to learn things related to Bitcoin and then ask people who already know about Bitcoin.

Meanwhile, those who don't like Bitcoin but already know Bitcoin, no matter what they want to explain, they still don't like Bitcoin, but there are also people who don't like Bitcoin because they don't know it yet. Well, actually what needs to be given an understanding and explanation here is for people who don't know Bitcoin, not for those who already know Bitcoin, even though we also have full rights to remain silent and not explain anything related to Bitcoin.
717  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I Use Emergency funds or Sell my Assets ? on: July 02, 2023, 08:17:20 AM
Economic problems have always haunted us, especially now that the financial situation is getting worse and those of us who have assets certainly have to make considerations to use these funds, if that has become the only way we have to do, then just sell the assets you have so that your problems are quickly resolved and later you have to find a way so that everything you spend now you can have back, Because right now it is indeed in a difficult situation.

I don't think that's a good solution, because you also have to provide a more direct or more precise explanation of what situation is currently difficult? Because as long as there are ways and ways that can be taken to solve the problem, I don't think a person should immediately sacrifice the assets that he currently owns because getting back the assets that have been sold is also not easy. So this must really be considered wisely before he sells it, and besides what is it that is giving him trouble? Meanwhile, market conditions and the crypto space are much better now.
718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will World Economic Depression Affect Bitcoin? on: July 02, 2023, 07:43:43 AM
You are very thorough looking at this. Yes. at least this moment serves as a test of maturity to determine whether Bitcoin is truly considered a safe-haven asset and a safe place to keep their money or just a speculative investment.
This can also depend on the opinion of each person because the function is also clear so that everyone can have different assumptions when owning Bitcoin. Although in general Bitcoin is better for investment direction because it has been specifically proven that an increase in price over a certain period of time always exists and occurs in Bitcoin. So the opinion depends on the individual person.

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I think it comes back to the market participants. If they really think of Bitcoin as a safe haven, it could hold up well during a crisis. Conversely, if what you see is a high-risk investment and its value can drop at any time, isn't it obvious that your intentions will be clearly expressed, one of which is from the economic downturn. But, look at it with open eyes. As the economy improves, positive news emerges and makes headlines for weeks. What's next? As more industries enter this space, some investors and financial institutions will view Bitcoin as a safe-haven asset and they feel it is a safe place to store their money.
If you remember being safe, obviously Bitcoin can still be said to be safe. Whether it's to be invested and stored for a long time or to be traded in the market, both of which are still good for and safe for many people to do with Bitcoin. And that is apart from conditions that can affect the market because when there are bad conditions that can affect the market, of course the mentality of traders and holders will also be affected. It could even be changed in terms of his trust in Bitcoin.
719  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: July 01, 2023, 11:45:36 AM
Pengen nyari yang sekarang harganya murah tapi bisa naik tajam seperti ETH di masa silam atau BTC di masa silam. Apa ya gan? buat invest 5 - 10 tahun kedepan

Jika om ingin mencari altcoin yang murah untuk investasi selama 5 - 10 tahun kedepan, dari pandangan saya pribadi yang lebih cocok itu adalah BNB dan Tron. Karena selain masih sangat terjangkau dan murah menurut saya, altcoin tersebut juga sudah sangat populer serta memiliki peringkat yang baik dan juga jaringan dari kedua altcoin tersebut masih banyak digunakan pada saat ini.

Sehingga saya pikir tidak akan salah jika om memilih kedua altcoin ini untuk investasi jangkan panjang, tetapi jika om tidak mencari yang harganya murah namun bagus, maka pilihannya adalah Bitcoin dan itu tidak ada tawaran lain yang lebih baik karena memang telah terbukti selama bertahun-tahun kalau Bitcoin adalah yang terbaik. Dan sebenarnya altcoin seperti ETH juga sangat baik untuk investasi jangka panjang jika om mau menganggap ETH itu masih murah, karena ETH juga kerap lebih cepat meningkat ketika Bitcoin mulai memulihkan harganya dan bahkan sangat sering meningkat secara bersamaan dengan Bitcoin. Jadi ETH juga bisa menjadi pilihan yang baik untuk om jika yang om cari saat ini adalah altcoin.
720  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will fall or rise? $30400 the recent price on: July 01, 2023, 10:37:08 AM
After the SEC did not want to approve bitcoin spot ETF, bitcoin fall from $31000 back to $30400 as of today price. Bitcoin has been staying between $29400 and $31250 since many days. The support as been at $30000 while the resistance as been at $31000. The market is difficulty to know which position to take. What are you people predicting that bitcoin price would be? Is bitcoin breaking the resistance and increase above $31000 which could take the price to $35000, or bitcoin price is getting back to $25000 again?

After looking at the level of resistance that has occurred in the last month in Bitcoin and now that the price is starting to go sideways with no move up or down, I'm still thinking about the next bull run which would be through $31K and up to $35K. However I don't think that price measure is imminent anytime soon, as the difficulty of breaking through $31K is still very visible on Bitcoin so it will definitely take more time to see $35K within this year. And I don't think about a drop back to $25K any time soon although the drop in price is also unstoppable at this point except with a little more support in the market.
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