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701  Economy / Economics / Re: Exports and imports in the Bitcoin economy. on: March 03, 2013, 04:04:40 PM
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Get payment processors, ad networks, affiliate networks, etc. to PAY OUT using Bitcoin.


This is interesting. Payment processors could advertise to their clients the benefits of receiving payment in BTC rather than having it converted to Fiat. For instance, the rates would be lower, the BTC would most likely gain value, diversifying currency, etc. And of course merchants can still peg prices to the USD or EUR.

The only issue is it is kind of a short-term/long-term gain/risk debate for the payment processors. In the short term they would lose out since they can make more money charging higher fees to convert to fiat and then ACH transfer to bank account.
In the long term, they are taking the chance that increased transactions that are end-to-end BTC will strengthen the BTC economy a great deal, which would result in a great deal more business. Also, that volume of business is needed to really make BTC last.
I think in the end the payment processors will realize it's in their best interest to "convince" merchants to do end-to-end BTC transactions. OTOH, the merchants might just grab some open source cart software, configure it themselves, and accept the BTC right into their own wallet, making the payment processor a thing of the past. Heck, maybe payment processors are doomed to become historical relics once everyone becomes their own bank anyways. Who knows.

May the market decide! 
Excellent points. It would be nice to hear an official statement from BitPay, Paysius, and BitWallet.
702  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whats going on with this block? on: March 03, 2013, 10:07:47 AM
I hate all the fees.
I love the fees. You should try, too.
703  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin drop to $60 on: March 03, 2013, 10:06:16 AM
Once BFL labs start shipping, we will see more BTC generated and this price could go down.
There are at least two problems with this statement.

1. BFL might never ship, or by the time they do the competition might have made their technology irrelevant

2. There will be no "more BTC generated," as network adjusts difficulty every 2016 blocks to maintain an average of 10 blocks generated per hour, or 150 coins mined per hour.  If BFL ever ships, much like any other vendor their shipments will gradually start arriving to miners over weeks and months - assembly, testing, shipping, customs, holidays, etc.

You comment would only make sense in the universe where BFL rigs magically show up in everybody's homes on the same day and start hashing, while most of GPUs, FPGA, and ASICMINER and Avalon ASICs mysteriously stop hashing at the same moment. Even then, BFL rigs would only manage to mine for a few days before they cause difficulty to jump)...
704  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt. Gox hits all-time Bitcoin high on: March 02, 2013, 11:21:23 PM
It was a trade in a currency other than USD.
This is correct. The "high" and "low" on MtGox Website are any-currency trades converted to USD. IIRC the API documentation explains this.
705  Economy / Speculation / Re: other Profitable investment on: March 02, 2013, 11:10:02 PM

And cheap vodka. Extremely valuable during economic collapse. Multiple uses.

you can only have so much vodka stored, but one trivial machine would provide endless quantities of 60 deg alcohol out of virtually any product. cigarettes, on the other hand, not so simple to make yourself.



Exactly. Growing the tobacco is the hardest part, and it's not hard.  After it's grown, you just dry it and smoke it.  You can even wrap tobacco in tobacco.  It's called a cigar.

You could use mining rigs to dry the leaves.
706  Economy / Speculation / Re: mtgoxUSD bounce to $41 drop to $20 on: March 02, 2013, 04:22:43 PM
In other words, OP is saying that the support has been increasing ~10% per 2-3 month rally.

I'm saying it's more like ~100%, and will continue to do so until it doesn't. It will all make sense in hindsight Wink
707  Economy / Speculation / Re: other Profitable investment on: March 02, 2013, 03:56:01 PM
Education. I don't mean bullshit university degree (I speak as a PhD), but practical knowledge and skills, specialized or not, from a university course or from somewhere else, does not matter.
Another one: physical excercise. No need for expensive gym memberships and props, all you need to invest is your time. Time is money. And, speaking of investing time, another great investment: friends and family.
708  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Background checks on persons vital in the Bitcoin eco system ? on: March 02, 2013, 03:31:26 PM
If your concern is that people handling your coins might scam you, simply do what is prudent: get in touch with your business partner, learn their name, look them up, ask around. Don't rely on the community to do this in an organized fashion you are proposing here. If you find serious red flags, please do share the facts and let others decide. Case in point: scammer Sonny from Butterfly Labs.
Letting everyone do their due dilligence is much better than relying on one private eye do it once, for a variety of reasons.

If your concern is that a developer might have some skeletons in the closet, and therefore subject to being blackmailed to introduce exploitable bugs, then your background check is pointless. Let's say you find out that Biggrogobulux, one of main developers, was arrested for theft as a teenager, or was investigated for credit-card fraud. This is not a kind of secret that would make him do anything just to keep it secret. It's already public information, that's how these investigators get it for you and serve it on the plate with the bill. You might be more interested to check whether Biggrogobulux has been banging his high-school sweetheart behind his wife's back for the past three years. Case in point: David Petraeus of CIA. Private investigators you are thinking of do not dig that deep. Besides, such information is too precious to trust a random internet guy would not sell it up (or give it up) to a third party that might be interested in exploiting it. You'd have to do background check on people running the background check. See the problem? This is kind of shit presidents have to deal with all the time.
709  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Delivery estimate for BFL single? on: March 02, 2013, 07:04:28 AM
It's just a tactic to make higher profits. A % of customers will have died of natural causes before they receive a unit. Have to wait and see how many singles never get sent in for upgrades to get the exact customer fatality rate.
Which means it is in BFL's best interest to make products that emit deadly exhaust fumes. Which explains their obsession with fans.
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple: Why XRPs are superior to Bitcoins on: March 02, 2013, 05:16:10 AM
If Ripple is found useful by the masses, it will be used. Users will need to obtain XRP to push transactions. As long as they are comfortable with the cost of transaction fee, I don't care where they got the XRP from (50% chance it's from OpenCoin if they keep their promise of giving away 50%). All this does not affect me as a user - whether it's bitcoin miners, or Ripple developers, or my bank executives. If I am happy with the free choice I can make, and the cost of transacting, and the security, and level of privacy or transparency, and social and environmental implications of the system, and any externalized cost they create - as long as I'm happy, I don't care who pockets the fee. In fact, I'm glad it's kind of folks behind OpenCoin.
711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Report Ripple & ScamCoin Inc to FTC for False Advertising on: March 02, 2013, 04:56:40 AM
To most people "scam" does not mean what you think it means.
712  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: question about missing transaction on: March 01, 2013, 04:53:29 PM
What edd said. Look up on blockchain.info or blockexplorer.com the transaction ID or the receiving address from your mtgox history.
713  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The fundamental flaw in bitcoin on: March 01, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
OP raises an interesting point. Why pay mining fees, when you can perform off-chain transactions?  One way to answer this is: because off-chain transactions inevitably involve some cost and some risk. Paying a transaction fee to the miner may be cheaper, faster, and more secure than performing an off-chain transaction. This "may be" is what will create a competitive market that defines the fees depending on particular payer's needs.
714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ClosedCoin: Why is OC's Ripple Closed-Source? on: March 01, 2013, 01:53:46 PM
I don't care that it is closed-source, I care that at the same time on their Website they claim it is open-source. That's ugly, and it's hard for me to take them seriously.
715  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Selling Video of Hot Mom (Not Porn) on: March 01, 2013, 01:47:05 PM
You guys really don't want to help us?

So let me see if I have this straight. We're paying you to HELP YOU and your friends, and for the dubious distinction of being one of the first "100,000" to see a video that everybody's going to be seeing soon anyway, for free? So, we'd have what..bragging rights? "Pssssshhh brah, I seen that vid like..WEEKS before y'all did, cuz I be just dat cool."?

No. We are helping him spend money on SatoshiDice:
https://blockexplorer.com/address/1ASPjmoFbsLq6rxtaXen3Whapbd9jSGvMo
716  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: March 01, 2013, 05:15:10 AM
I have not received any payments to 1GrrVSCpHDXSyMkW64Z6wH7bSgkDifVXpM. Any ideas?

Thanks
Did you get the test payment?

Nope.
Did you get the confirmation email from friedcat a month or two ago, with this address and balance according to GLBSE data?
717  Economy / Economics / Re: inflation-corrected value of a bitcoin on: March 01, 2013, 03:07:58 AM
At this point, the price of a BTC is similar to that at the June 2011 peak—not far over and not far under. That's all I'm saying.
True. It is important to see this statement in the light of the fact  that currently there are twice as many bitcoins as there were in June 2011.
718  Economy / Speculation / Re: CoinLab News = Price collapse on: March 01, 2013, 02:52:51 AM
I don't see how investment firms could "crash the price" as described in OP, but I do see how this latest development may lead to bitcoin becoming more of a speculative vehicle, and less of a trading currency or secure long-term investment. Wild fluctuation in price - in either direction - is disruptive. Oh, well. Not really bad news, but not quite what I was hoping for.
719  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Selling Video of Hot Mom (Not Porn) on: March 01, 2013, 02:28:06 AM
Its not porn, and I promise these are videos that everyone will be watching soon. Me and a large group of trolls are going to launch a campaign on 4chan and Silk Road. This is everyone's chance to get in on the floor level.
This thread is just precious. Keep it coming!
720  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Selling Video of Hot Mom (Not Porn) on: February 28, 2013, 09:05:33 PM
I just thought maybe people would want to spend their money seeing and up and coming MILF and her family. SORRY, geez.

Think again, harder.
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