Maximum Year One forging rewards for one delegate is thus 31,233 * 5 = 156,165 Lisk. The actual number will be somewhat lower.
Max and Oliver each own 4% of LISK. Therefore they each have 4 delegates = 624660 LISK generated in first year for each of them That staking revenue should be enough to cover all of their personal expenses. Am I correct in thinking the staking revenue will be the salary for Max and Oliver? Surely they will not be taking salary from investor BTC for their personal expenses? Ownership percentage does not guarantee the community will vote you into a delegate position. "Four percent ownership" does NOT mean "Has four delegate slots". Go read the Delegate Handbook and come back to post when you understand how Lisk really works. If you have 4% of the LISK. Then you can put 1% of voting power on each of your own 4 delegates So Max and Oliver will have a minimum of 4 delegates each if they make the rational choice of voting for their own delegates 4 delegates = 624660 LISK generated in first year = more than enough to cover all personal expenses if LISK is successful RTFM! (read the fucking manual!) before posting more nonsense. you vote for an account you pay 100 lisk for creating. its completely different what you saying. thats not even fud, thats bad taste lies. It's very simple logic. If a delegate gets 1% of vote, then that delegate is guaranteed to be in top 101 active delegates. If you have 4% of lisk, then you have 4% of voting power. You can then give 4 of your own delegates 1% of the vote each, to guarantee you will have a minimum of 4 delegates in top 101 it has nothing to do with the amount of lisk you holding, dumbass. read the fucking manual! |
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Maximum Year One forging rewards for one delegate is thus 31,233 * 5 = 156,165 Lisk. The actual number will be somewhat lower.
Max and Oliver each own 4% of LISK. Therefore they each have 4 delegates = 624660 LISK generated in first year for each of them That staking revenue should be enough to cover all of their personal expenses. Am I correct in thinking the staking revenue will be the salary for Max and Oliver? Surely they will not be taking salary from investor BTC for their personal expenses? Ownership percentage does not guarantee the community will vote you into a delegate position. "Four percent ownership" does NOT mean "Has four delegate slots". Go read the Delegate Handbook and come back to post when you understand how Lisk really works. If you have 4% of the LISK. Then you can put 1% of voting power on each of your own 4 delegates So Max and Oliver will have a minimum of 4 delegates each if they make the rational choice of voting for their own delegates 4 delegates = 624660 LISK generated in first year = more than enough to cover all personal expenses if LISK is successful RTFM! (read the fucking manual!) before posting more nonsense. you vote for an account you pay 100 lisk for creating. its completely different what you saying. thats not even fud, thats bad taste lies. |
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if just one of the big wales are a chinese exchange...we will se a really big price increase...really big..like 100x i bet on this!
Yeah maybe so. oh man, whales will take your money, not give you money. |
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I demand more FUD!.
the price will drop, because they all think it will skyrocket and noobs having no idea, that they are going to lose money in the end. but hey, you dont lose, you just pay for your fun, right? good so? |
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well well well, seems like we have a great ico, I was away for a while, but this one looks really interesting, and I see there's fud. almost 8k btc, Microsoft azure, lot of pages, exchanges ready at launch, whales, we have everything for something really big. But there's people thinking this is shit, lol. As shit as they are I suggest.
usually the whales are taking your money. dont think it will be different here. a mass dump is written in stone already. there is no way out nor a different possibility. dont be fud, but i guess alot will pay for they fun :-) |
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Hi goldeneye, Sources are coming, i am polishing the android light client  . Note that this is a DAPP light client, not a LISK light client. Hence the security issue. 1. Yes, for security, so fa r the passphrase is stored inside the client and then each time a transaction is made, it is sent to the API. This is a known limitation of LISK so far and we are already working to come up with a solution with the LISK team. This is not trivial.2. Yes, but as a start this is enough. I'm curious Good job guys  Good job? thats passphrasse: merit lyrics truly catalog material city guilt maximum fun pair bird original stage glue dolphin symptom enjoy little assume such goat head teach embark decide exhaust wrap window short duck album road organ creek useless embrace I like the one with the glue dolphin. lol i think i like it, i could memorise it fast. ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA3zhzT1wDo er |
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 Quick and dirty, but took all of 15 mins. Including drinking my morning coffee. well, but they pay probably 10k$ for a new logo design. not sure, if yours is better *duckandhide* @ LiskHq A question: For enabling our coins to "pay dapps" in April, will there be a redeem page made by Lisk? When we are in the future, i can just open my webwallet and redeem it there, right? Correct me someone please. |
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@ liskhq or lisk representative
besides all the money talk here
some questions about the tech and field you are continuing your approach:
-what are you going to do for standardisation or guidelines etc. for smart contracts? where do you see javascript limits?
-what about anonymity, privacy or just a fact, that, when i have to show my smartcontract to others, to confirm its legit, any one can copy it? maybe i am wrong, what are basic solutions? what about copyright?
-encryption?
-data storage? your choice is in alpha/beta development, how dependant are you from them?
-centralisation and decentralisation of your chosen proof of stack algo?
I really hope you guys are really into this project going the hard road all the way, not as investor, but for the reason of taking money from the community.
Best regards,
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Ripple - Over 30M USD from VC's - 708,875 BTC market cap
Ethereum - 31,531 BTC from presale - 2,631,335 BTC market cap
MaidSafe - around 12,200 in BTC from presale - 109,525 BTC market cap
Stellar - 3M USD from Stripe - 30,538 BTC market cap
Bitshares - 500,000 USD from investors + 5625 BTC in donations (via BTS AGS) - 49,051 BTC market cap
Lisk - around 4400 BTC from presale. 8 days to go!
Factom - 2287 BTC from presale - 52,625 BTC market cap
Very interesting data. I have converted everything to current $415 BTC (yeah, I know, somewhat inaccurate, not "BTC price pop / price drop" adjusted) and added the most important one that you forgot.  NXT is in its twilight. In mid-2014 it was valued ten times higher than it is now. And those 21 BTC that started NXT were only about $220 each. Incredible!!! Should invest at least 1 BTC then
Duh. You are taking just the successfull projects. There is a chance that lisk will rise, but why should it rise, when crypti also did not rise and fell after the ICO? The story will repeat as its the same plot. I support LISK because of the tech and want the team behind LISK success in a one year frame, if they will deliver, making a good promotion and tech job. |
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frage an liskhq:
bereitet ihr euch vor die zertifizierung für microsoft azure blockchain zu bekommen?
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focusing on the tech behind it.
THISsupport for the tech and the development of crypti to the end. dont expect to be lisk like ethereum. there is just one bitcoin and one ethereum and hundreds of tokesn and coins. |
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Nicht wie bei Evan Duffield... The Great Dictaor. Habe es noch im Ohr, das Geheule der DASH'ler hier...  Man kann es eh nie allen Leuten recht machen. Außerdem besteht meiner Meinung nach überhaupt kein Unterschied zu bsw. der Tatsache, daß in vielen Bitcointalk-Threads die Teilnehmer und involvierten Personen ja auch ständig den Entwicklern Ideen rüberreichen... Mach mal Wallet-In-Exchange, mach mal Tor-Integration, ich werde helfen et cetera und seitenlang ein neues Projekt besprechen. tokens gehören an börsen gehandelt, weil sich dort der Preis in Relation zu anderen Tokens entwickelt und bewegt. als spielerei ist es sicher mal gut. |
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I'd like to participate in this ICO but I'm worried about investing my BTC while lot of XCR holders have dumped 60% of all XCR in existence this ICO.
It feels like BTC investors are simply bailing out XCR bag holders in this ICO.
BTC investors are NOT bailing out XCR bag holders in this ICO! THERE IS NOT A ONE-FOR-ONE EXCHANGE OF CRYPTI XCR FOR LISK. XCR members joining Lisk are getting their donations capped at the fair market value (at Poloniex, for example) of 1300 satoshi per XCR. You can see that by going to the "How many Lisk will I get for my XCR" spreadsheet link in my other post above. At present, the number is 0.274 Lisk will be issued for every Crypti XCR donated, and that number continues to drop as more BTC shows up. A Lisk is currently worth 4759 Satoshi. If you trade in ONE Crypti XCR, you currently get 0.274 Lisk and your new Lisk holding is worth 0.274 * 4759 = 1300 satoshi (with minor roundoff error). Now look at the "How many Lisk will I get for my BTC" spreadsheet. If you trade in ONE Bitcoin, you currently get 21,100 Lisk and your new Lisk holding is worth 21,100 * 4759 = 100,000,000 satoshi (with minor roundoff error), which is exactly 1 BTC. As noted in my post above, so far there have been 773 BTC worth of XCR donated to Lisk at the fixed fair market rate of 1300 satoshi and 2900 actual BTC donated at the adjustable fair market rate of 4759 satoshi per Lisk and rising. The 773 BTC donated by Crypti holders is the fair market value of all the currently existing Version 0.5.5 sidechain / dapp software that Lisk will use at launch. The Version 0.5.5 sidechain / dapp software used to launch Lisk is NOT VAPORWARE and its use does not come to the new BTC donors for free. Utilization of that software as a starting point is currently priced fairly at 773 BTC. The BTC donations of 2900+ will be used as a cash development fund to IMPROVE THIS CODE BASE and create Lisk Version 0.5.6 and beyond. To summarize, the value of XCR donations are are capped at 1300 satoshi per coin; the value of BTC donations are continuously adjusted upward to get the current Lisk satoshi value (currently 4759 and rising). That capped vs. continuous adjustment factor is what keeps the XCR folks from being "bailed out" by the BTC donors! XCR donators have created a solid sidechain / dapp code base foundation and the new BTC donators are providing funding to improve it. XCR and BTC donors are not opponents here. We are all members of the new Lisk team!I dont see any technical reason to switch from crypti to list. All the explanations going on financial or personal motives. Whats the diff in tech between crypti and lisk? 120 pages of greedy talk without explanation. Bail out or not, i dont care. I see lisk as a kind of paycoin scam with a clone of crypti for a copycat of ethereum. Just my opinion, honest, without any fud or troll. Dont want a scene of more dishonest alt devs. |
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how much was raised
The ICO ends on March, 21st 2016. They have raised ~3,600 BTC thus far. the crypti project was not very successfull in meanings of price development. it started at 1 mill. usd and dropped half and never ever went up again until the devs went out of money. lisk seems to be the same tech as crypti project (a fork). there is not much tech more you can put in a dapp protocoll network. just fresh money for maintaining and pushing into the market. a good tech with reputition is selling by itself. the developers coming from next. and next is not really successfull project, in meanings of tech nor price development. its outdated tech and crashed almost 10x from its peak at 60 mill. conclusion: -known developers for failing projects in means of develeoped to the end, but didnt make it on the market, like 100 other coins. 100 coins trying 1 is successfull. this one will be not successfull. the 3600 btc are being collected by greed and speculation, but not on facts. big players, saying to me, they are not touching the presale. maybe i asked the wrong ones. I do hope lisk can get a success. there is a dozen other coins trying to be on the ethereum wave as it was the same with btc and all the others clons of it. i supported the coin from the beginning, just getting mixed reactions on lisk. too much history behind the devs with next and crypti and there are walls of acceptance IMO. I am invested as well. Want to be the crypto szene a little bit more honest. There are almost just spammers around, want high fast profit. Thats destroying the altcoins and btc and the community. |
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i watch every 10 minutes my estimated lisk number. all my food money is inside.
money money money, give me money. its aaaaall about money. but what about the tech behind? |
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can anyone explain what is the technical advantage or supperior idea in comparison to crypti. why was lisk born?
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Probably it was asked before and i feel having read a bit about it but just wondering again: Why isn't Factom into recuring fees? (compare https://tierion.com/pricing) Real storage costs are per time. Distributed historical data should cost a little per time as well. This is less relevant for Factom than for Maidsafe but more relevant than for Bitcoin. the fees are the coins, the factoms. tierion is very nice https://tierion.com/aboutand its having the developer from storj. anyway the deal in china is a good one. |
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can i fund my exchange i iniciated on the 22 februar without transfering coins to it?
will i get the bonus regarding 22 februar?
thanks for help.
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Tell us your best Dapp ideas & win great prizes!Decentralized applications can be thought of as the “bread and butter” of Lisk. Therefore, in order to provide our Lisk Dapp developers with the inspiration to get coding dapps as soon as possible, today we are starting a contest for the best Dapp ideas. Contest DetailsMake a concept for your dream Dapp, and post it to our official forum on the “Decentralized Applications” board. Your concept can contain descriptions, images, diagrams, projections and code. The more elaborate your concept is, the higher your chance of winning. The contest starts with this announcement (7th March) and ends on the 13th March, at the same time as the BTC exchange bonus drops from 5% to 0%. Please note, early submissions will have no greater priority over later submissions. We (Oliver and Max) will elect the three winners ourselves, based upon feedback from the community. Winners will be chosen based on the ideas which we feel will draw the biggest attention, and create practical use-cases for the Lisk network. Everyone can submit as many ideas as they want. To avoid someone submitting an idea before you have completed a submission, you may briefly describe your idea in a forum post, and then enhance that submission over the course of the week with further materials. Decision criteria- Quantity and quality of the concept materials (50%) - Benefits to the Lisk ecosystem (30%) - Feasibility (20%) PrizesThe best three ideas will get their own video similar to this one, which can then be used to promote your idea to potential investors, the Lisk community or business partners. Additionally, we will give out a Raspberry Pi 2, Raspberry Pi 3 and Lisk T-Shirts, according to the following prizes: - First prize: Raspberry Pi 3 + Lisk T-Shirt + Video - Second prize: Raspberry Pi 2 + Lisk T-Shirt + Video - Third prize: Lisk T-Shirt + Video We shall also use the Dapp ideas and videos to promote the Lisk platform to potential developers. All concept materials will be made public, and will be placed in the hands of the whole Lisk community Blog Post Announcement i did not get my btc for the signature campaign. did i make something wrong? |
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