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701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ebay CEO finally surrender to Bitcoin on: June 06, 2014, 07:26:59 AM
Ebay should just allow their customers to pay using Bitcoin separately from Paypal.
This way, Paypal is not controlling Ebay's payment system. Unless Ebay is own by Paypal 100% then that's a whole different story.

Quote from: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal)
On October 3, 2002, PayPal became a wholly owned subsidiary of eBay
702  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going to the MOON? I dont think so... on: June 06, 2014, 06:46:55 AM
Can we come back down after visiting each of them? That would make the speculators happy.
703  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ebay CEO finally surrender to Bitcoin on: June 06, 2014, 06:36:55 AM
Call me a cynic but for some reason I just don't really believe him.

Yeah, I've analysed it before and I cannot see the business model that will support them. I suppose this could be the theoretical infrastructure that will make it easier for laypeople to use Bitcoins (at the cost of additional fees) but considering that most of us who are using at the moment aren't bound by knowledge I don't understand how they'll generate any revenue. Not to mention, they already have a poor reputation among those who trade - too much room for scamming.

No business model to support them? Paypal is an exchange. If there is a business model supporting bitcoin exchanges then there is a business model for Paypal (and Ebay) to offer this too.

And I do believe bitcoin exchanges are profitable. Also, Paypal is a familiar to many people and will be trusted more. Especially since the gox incident got so much exposure I can see (non bitcoin enthusiasts) picking Paypal over some other established bitcoin exchanges. This seems like a (maybe the final) opportunity for Paypal to come in and steal the market.
704  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin ready for the mainstream? on: June 06, 2014, 06:03:46 AM
The question isn't "Is Bitcoin ready for the mainstream?". The question is: "Is the mainstream ready for Bitcoin?"

When it does start taking off many companies will jump on the bandwagon to profit from the rush. This year might be that year. Things are moving faster and faster.
705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ebay CEO finally surrender to Bitcoin on: June 06, 2014, 05:55:26 AM
It was inevitable anyway. Just a matter of time. Paypal will not be beaten by bitcoin. They will adopt it too, and earn money from it.

I still wonder what "very soon" is.
706  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: June 04, 2014, 09:41:39 AM
I didn't realise that the difficulty has increased that much in only one year. Seeing how little profit miners make right now is a bit worrying. The game has changed and the "power" now seems to be with a limited number of big mining rigs.

Even if the difficulty stabilizes it will still be harder for anyone to get started on mining.
707  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the inability to be charged a problem? on: June 03, 2014, 05:46:15 AM
Well to solve this, people will have to stop thinking about how to replicate payment functions that were designed around the existing system. There are probably better ways to address this than a pull transaction.

Yes, like how it is already being done for Lyft.

I think replicating existing payment functions is more feasible than changing the way people do things. Especially on the short term. People resist change.
708  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Poll : do you trust an exchange to hold your bitcoins ? on: June 03, 2014, 04:41:17 AM
I do not trust any exchange. I will use them, but get my money / bitcoin out asap.
709  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the inability to be charged a problem? on: June 03, 2014, 01:36:32 AM
I also think some kind of small pre-paid amount or a hot wallet with limited amounts could be used in this situation. It doesn't beat the convenience of credit cards yet, but without doubt this process will be streamlined in the future.

Hmmm... Maybe I should start a credit card service on Bitcoins. I think I'm at least as trustworthy as Visa anyways Cheesy
710  Economy / Speculation / Re: I heard Bitcoin was suppose to go to $10 today? on: June 02, 2014, 10:08:40 AM
Just read this forum... Just like me most of the members here are more than willing to buy bitcoins at $10. Or at $100 for that matter. Or even $400. Hey, that's demand. And that's exactly why the exchange rate is not going to crash down to $10.

By the way, if someone insists on selling their BTC for less then $10, please contact me. I'll help you out with that Grin
711  Other / Off-topic / Re: Thinking about naming my kid Satoshi..anybody with me! on: June 02, 2014, 10:02:30 AM
I personally wouldn't do it. I wouldn't call my kid Dollar or Cent either.

When they become a rapper they can always start calling themselves 50 Satoshis if they wish.
712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Summary of Phinnaeus Gage's Investigation into Brock Pierce Thus Far on: June 02, 2014, 02:56:30 AM
I'm surprised nobody tried to bribe PG to back off. I guess he's not close enough yet.

What if there was proof that Brock Pierce and Autumn Radtke once attended a function in which the Clintons, and the then unknown Barack Obama, among other notables, were also invited guess. Would that pique your interest?

What about bitcoins working their way into 401Ks and private funds? Yes, there are people who have 401Ks that never heard of bitcoins, yet their hard-earned dollars have indirectly purchased them. What if when the exchange rate for BTC goes up, their BTC positions are lowered via profit taking, but if the rate declines, the owners' funds reflect the lost, with new money injected into the funds for the next uptick.

Boy, would I love to have only .001% of that action. How 'bout you?

You've already piqued my interested many posts ago. Sadly my interest holds little value in the grand scheme of things, and will do you little good. I do encourage you to keep digging. There's probably still many layers of dirt waiting to be exposed.
713  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Summary of Phinnaeus Gage's Investigation into Brock Pierce Thus Far on: June 02, 2014, 01:49:19 AM
I'm surprised nobody tried to bribe PG to back off. I guess he's not close enough yet.
714  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Do you have a good mining story to tell? on: May 29, 2014, 04:36:58 AM
LogicalUnit has a nice post about his experience: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224015.0. You might want to contact him.
715  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: A case study in entry-level mining on: May 20, 2014, 02:34:25 AM
Musings

I'm disappointed at this stage. Each of my reinvestments has lost me more of my original BTC capital. As has been pointed out, my original 13 BTC for AUD$2000 would have been all I would ever have needed. Instead I decided to go all in with mining, and lost virtually everything.

What's really killing me here is rising difficulty. As ever-faster hashing hardware comes onto the market, return from mining rapidly decreases. You can either watch your income diminish into nothing, or reinvest at a loss. It's a lose-lose situation.

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I'm beginning to wonder how anyone makes a profit mining. It seems impossible from an individual's point of view.

Yeah, I've been looking at entering BTC mining, but even with free electricity and internet it's difficult to get a good return. The few miners I found that promise a (really good) return on investment are most likely scams. It seems safer to just purchase BTC and sit on them than trying to mine.

For now I'll pass on the mining. Thanks for sharing your experience.
716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Colored Coins and Coinprism takes Bitcoin to a whole new level on: May 15, 2014, 09:02:59 AM
By the way, if there are still worthless tokens left I created an address as well: 1CcGUZuYwy8okr5hZeLkytwwdFsNwpGC9H I have a feeling these coins will be in high demand in the future  Tongue

One worthless token (1 WTK) sent to 1CcGUZuYwy8okr5hZeLkytwwdFsNwpGC9H!

Got my worthless token. There are 100 now ;-)


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I have a flat fee contract for my facility so for mining my only (added) cost would be buying mining hardware. So I could generate a color coin to collect capital allowing me to buy a miner, then mine coins and use the revenue from mining to back up the colored coins I gave out?

That sounds like a very interesting way to get me started up as a miner. It sounds far too easy actually. What is the catch?

Yes, that is one of the exciting uses for colored coins.  An entrepreneur could raise money to finance the purchase of equipment, and then use the revenue generated from that equipment to pay interest to his bond holders, or dividends to his stock holders (depending on how he sets up the colored coins).

The catch is just that people might not trust an issuer of colored coins enough to actually buy them!  The issuer has to earn investors trust somehow.  Perhaps he could start a thread that describes his ideas with high-quality posts, and then just try to raise a small amount of funds at first.  If he deliver on his promises and his bond holders or stock holders make a good ROI, they might invest more on his next larger project.  Next thing you know, he may be able to attract large amounts of funding.  By this time, it would be unlikely he'd ever want to screw over his investors even if he could get away with it because he'd ruin all his hard work building up his reputation and lose his ability to raise funds in the future (in addition to opening himself up to potential litigation). 


Yeah, that's the catch for standard investments too. Also, though I have a flat fee contract there is some fair use clause in the contract. So I'm not actually going to set up a huge farm here. Just the idea of funding a business like this is very appealing to me. It's probably also very appealing to all the scammers out there, so as always, investor beware!

I might put some miners though
717  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Colored Coins and Coinprism takes Bitcoin to a whole new level on: May 15, 2014, 05:15:12 AM
I have a flat fee contract for my facility so for mining my only (added) cost would be buying mining hardware. So I could generate a color coin to collect capital allowing me to buy a miner, then mine coins and use the revenue from mining to back up the colored coins I gave out?

That sounds like a very interesting way to get me started up as a miner. It sounds far too easy actually. What is the catch?


By the way, if there are still worthless tokens left I created an address as well: 1CcGUZuYwy8okr5hZeLkytwwdFsNwpGC9H I have a feeling these coins will be in high demand in the future  Tongue
718  Other / Beginners & Help / Hi, I am ABitNut on: May 15, 2014, 02:27:53 AM
Hi everyone,

I just joined the forum (obviously). I first heard about Bitcoin a few years ago but I was young and stupid (in hindsight!) so I didn't act on it Tongue.

I've been watching Bitcoin again for about 6 months since it's been getting more and more media exposure. Even if a lot of the exposure may seem negative we should keep in mind that even negative attention is still attention and it may help to make Bitcoin better known by the masses in the end. So I'm interested in how this develops and hoping to see Bitcoin becoming bigger.
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