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701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: December 16, 2023, 12:21:28 PM
I am a gambling addict myself so i can't tell you for sure how and when to quit gambling. Gambling is a costly affair so student body should refrain from it as they don't have enough money to gamble. Moreover if their parents should be made more aware of this matter, then the matter can be resolved. Usually to get rid of an addiction you have to decide first and do what you can do to keep yourself occupied. In fact if you always keep yourself in the running, you can avoid gambling if you want.

Yeah, I agree.

I don't see how a student could possibly afford to gamble regularly.

It's so expensive in the end, because you end up losing money, and the minimum bets can be quite big in some countries.

In some cases it is the price of a lunch, or more.
702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: December 16, 2023, 12:19:51 PM
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you know what is one of our main currencies? attention
social media developers know about it, and casino owners too, they want to maximize the time you stay there so you bet more and they earn more
simple math

Spot on.

The big tech companies realized this some time ago, and they started to monetize their platforms with this.

Most free platforms these days offer you an infinite scroll of content that is curated just for you, and what you see is basically defined by how much money the companies have paid to the platform to advertise there.

This is on top of normal ads, these are "content" that actually are ads, created just for you.
703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: December 16, 2023, 12:17:19 PM
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Reliability, in my opinion is a characteristic of an earned income. You expect to be paid for your services at a certain date. It’s not at all relevant if the management of the company is late to pay. They may be late to pay but it’s certain you’re going to get paid for your services.
Business clients paying you late for your business are issues that may arise in business. Along with bad debts.

With gambling, there is no certainty that you’re going win after placing a bet. You haven’t any guarantee you’re going to win and the probability of losing your money is higher. What you’ve got is hope of a win and hope won’t pay your bills nor will it put some food on your table.

True, that's another way of looking at it.

You have an expected return of your effort let's say.

You expect to be paid after you interact with the person you sold your goods or services, whereas with the casino your expected money is actually negative.
704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: December 16, 2023, 12:15:43 PM
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but... this wouldn't make your luck better if your numbers are never choosen, at the end of the day I don't really think it's worth to consider if other people are betting in the same numbers as you or not, you have no way to control it...
makes sense?

Yes, you're right.

There's no way to increase your luck, all that I'm saying is that in games like lotto and similar, you might end up in a situation where your lucky numbers are shared with other people, so if you win, you have to share the prize.

But if your numbers are other numbers that are not usually played (they have the same chances of winning though), you will end up in a situation that is a bit less likely to have to share your prize if you win, because less people play those numbers.

As I mentioned, your odds to win are still the same.
705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: December 16, 2023, 12:13:06 PM
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I think if the government of a country makes something illegal, that thing would become widely known and prompt more citizens to know and want to use it despite it being banned. You make people more curious about something when you make it inaccessible for them to use.
I agree with your notion. Making something legal makes it easier to restrict and control it from its citizens as people would still seek out banned substances as it would become a black market trade. Better to make it legal, put on restrictions and tax the trade.   

Sure, but it kinda also depend on the thing itself.

Things like heroin for example, I think should be illegal, because only one time you try could make you super addicted.

But things like marijuana are actually less problematic than tobacco or alcohol, so it's a bit strange that it is illegal in some places.

I think many people assume illegal = dangerous and legal = safe, which is clearly not the case.
706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: December 14, 2023, 12:50:32 AM
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I think if the government of a country makes something illegal, that thing would become widely known and prompt more citizens to know and want to use it despite it being banned. You make people more curious about something when you make it inaccessible for them to use.
I agree with your notion. Making something legal makes it easier to restrict and control it from its citizens as people would still seek out banned substances as it would become a black market trade. Better to make it legal, put on restrictions and tax the trade.   

Yeah, at the end of the day people will still get most things they want.

It's much better to have these things controlled, like alcohol, so that minors don't get access to it.

By having alcohol legal, and controlled, it is much more difficult to find alcohol at times where shops are closed, or access to minors, because since it's legal, the illegal market is very small, so it's not effective.

If alcohol was illegal, anyone would be able to buy it 24/7, and those people selling it don't check the age of their customers  Grin
707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: December 14, 2023, 12:47:21 AM
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That grandfather is a devil in a human body, he no longer cares about his daughter or granddaughter, people who dare to hurt their family members just for gambling are people who are no longer worthy of being in the family, they should be exiled in prison, I can't imagine how scared the mother was when she heard about the kidnapping and she was even more shocked when she found out that the perpetrator was her own father, gambling addicts are people who must be cured but if they go too far, they must be in prison.

There is no 100% evil person, we all have good and evil inside us, and our every day decisions show that.

This didn't happen overnight. This person was slowly, day after day, walking a dangerous path, and then this happened.

Yes, the event itself happened in one day, but the build up to that takes time.

And the most scary part is that pretty much almost anyone in the world can do something as evil as that given the circumstances.

Of course you might think you won't do it, while comfortably sitting at home, and having a great life. But if you were to experience the same things other people do, then you would probably behave in a similar way.

There was an experiment done long time ago that proved this, that people could actually send lethal electric shocks to someone far away because they were told to do so. Scary stuff.
708  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 14, 2023, 12:43:26 AM
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There are many types of rich, partly maybe as you said, people who are rich because of their mind and intelligence, that helps them see the game with gambling more accurately, most especially, their psychology is too natural and less volatile, and as long as they don't gamble excessively, anywhere in gambling is dawn for them. But like many stimulants, it initially prides itself on its ability to sublimate, but after it has stripped away all its underlying foundations, it rots, gambling is billions of termites digging straight into finances, just a few years of gambling, the loss threshold will be extremely high even if we are a rich person.

Yes, there is definitely different ways for a person to become rich.

Probably the people that got the money easily will be spending it on casinos and lose it quickly.

But people that have invested well in their lives will most probably not spend their fortune at casinos.
709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: December 14, 2023, 12:41:07 AM
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I've been in a few casinos around the world in which they absolutely give you free snacks and drinks.

Of course it is not a buffet, but if you stay there playing for some time, you will be able to get some free food and drinks.

Again, it's a courtesy, so it's just a bit, not something that you could simply go and grab anything you want.

The people at the casino basically have to see that you have been playing and then they offer you something.
I've had this before they offered a snack and drink coz I've been playing there for like 6 hours and like a guard in the area ask me if I want to grab some. A few tip if you if you're a newbie in a casino and you want to get this perk, try to interact more with the people in the casino guard, people, teller, cashier and they would notice you even in short time that you are playing there, surely you'll get some snacks  Cool

But I think it's pretty funny how it is a coincidence that most of the time they would ask you to get a snack or a drink when you are losing  Grin
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Yeah, they use all their tricks to get you to stay longer at the casino.

If you are losing and planning to go, they can see that and send you a snack with some drinks.

Or, if you just won big, they might come and celebrate with you, give you free drinks, etc, so that you stay and give their money back  Grin
710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: December 14, 2023, 12:38:08 AM
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Addictions like almost anything else have degrees, those that are addicted but that still have some level of control over themselves can more easily conquer their addiction if they are fully committed to stop.

However those that have spent too much time in such a state could have lost all kind of self-restrain, and in that case overcoming an addiction is incredibly more difficult, because the smallest stimulus can be enough for them to engage on their addiction again and lose all the ground they had gained during the previous weeks and months.

Yes, and people respond differently to addictions.

For example, looking at a gambling ad might not do anything to one person, but to another one could drag them back into their addiction.

It's as you say, a gradual thing. You need to first realize how deep you are, and then take steps back, one day at a time.

It's difficult because it takes time to go back from addiction.
711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 13, 2023, 02:00:33 AM
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Controlling one's excessive greed is very difficult, those who can control their excessive greed lose less amount of money in gambling. Be it a profit or a loss then we should take a break but we don't at that time we take another big decision without thinking and that decision becomes the main reason of losing our money. If I win a big amount of money in a gamble then my brain will encourage me to gamble more and at that time it is difficult for me to make the right decision but without considering these things if the decision to gamble is not made then the outcome is more likely to go against us. Every one of us who are gamblers should make a decision to gamble with conscience because it is not written to gamble again after making profit or loss and there is enough time to gamble so we should take the next decision with time.

Yes, our brains are used to process the world like that.

If we obtained a very favorable outcome, say winning while gambling, then we immediately want to do it again.

That's one of the reasons why the casinos are so wealthy, and the gamblers so poor. It's all designed to use our brain against us.
712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: December 13, 2023, 01:55:06 AM
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Yes, that the only advantage of VPN and some people think VPN can influence the results. When you first read a statement like that, it little surprising and little funny because what is being said is just myth that can't be trusted.
I once used VPN on site that was difficult for me to access using the IP address on the PC I was using and tried using VPN by first asking for solutions and opinions from the support team so that I could access it using VPN.
Returning to the discussion regarding using VPN, when I play slots, I can only access one provider, namely Pragmatic, and other providers cannot be accessed using VPN.
It can be concluded that the use of VPN also cannot expand in playing because for other providers we are more limited.

And what you say is true and that is how slots work where everything is set by random system or what can be called RNG and this kind of algorithm can only be beaten with luck.

Yeah, casinos need to ensure they only provide services to the people from countries they are legally allowed to.

People with VPNs cannot easily be traced to their original country, so it's hard for casinos to enforce their rules.

In the end, it's risky to use a VPN because if you win big they might actually do a check and if found that you used a VPN, especially from a country where they cannot provide the service, then you will be out of luck and get no money. And they would be allowed to do that.
713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: December 13, 2023, 01:51:35 AM
If you ever wonder about why Democrats are talking about Trump more than talking about what Biden can do, it's simple; it's because Biden or a trash can basically could do more help to their nation than Trump ever could. You are talking about someone who has stolen nuclear program details from the white house to his own suite after he didn't get reelected, do you think Biden would do that?

I mean we are talking about a criminal here, someone who has other nations powerful people in his pockets, and that's why it's easy to say that instead of electing Trump, you could have a box of bananas and you would still be able to do better as a nation. The "fearmongering" you are talking about is literally a criminal president who asked a state governor to fake election results, that's not fearmongering, that's a real criminal evil that wants the highest position in politics.

I think what is happening in the US is quite alarming.

I keep seeing conversations about how old a candidate is, or how tall they are, if they are wearing shoes that make them taller, or anything else that is just personal things.

Very few actual debate about what is a good policy moving forward, with facts, a master plan, etc.

It's all just reactive, insulting, trying to make people hate "the other" so that they vote for them instead.

Compare what politicians talk these days with this quote:

Quote from: President John F. Kennedy
"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"
714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: December 13, 2023, 01:46:10 AM
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depends if the system is true random or not
if it's random than past events doesn't matter
there is the chance that a true random system returns the same result every time
and (please mathematicians correct me if I'm wrong) this chance is not smaller than any other outcome

An event can depend on the past, but most gambling events are designed so that they are independent of the past.

For example, getting a number six on a dice now is independent of how many times the dice has been thrown before, and how many sixes have appeared so far. The odds of getting a six next is still 1/6.

Now, there are real world circumstances that you might use to your advantage.

For example, lotto numbers or similar, where you have to pick numbers from a pool. Usually people go with dates, so numbers between 1 and 31. Any higher number will have slightly less people playing them, so you will have slightly less chances of sharing your prize if you happen to win.

Note that the odds for each number is still the same though, a 32 is as possible to be drawn as a 31, but as I mentioned before slightly more people will choose those lower ones.

With things like that you can make your luck a bit better.
715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot games are a waste of time and money (most of the time) on: December 13, 2023, 01:41:19 AM
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One misconception that is very common is that people think of something as productive only if it makes you money or it is a step towards that goal, however humans are not really robots that only know how to work, entertaining yourself is also important as this allows you to be fresh when you have to work or simply as a way to improve your mood, and if someone finds in responsible gambling a way to do that then that is OK in my book.

Yes, that is absolutely true.

The issue at hand I think is for people that go to casinos or do it online, and they simply continue gambling all day, losing all their money, without even enjoying themselves.

There's a big difference between those two types of behaviors.
716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 12, 2023, 06:54:25 AM
It is not possible to become addicted to gambling but gain from gambling. When a gambler is too addicted to gambling, he makes more wrong decisions than right ones, causing him to lose money instead of making money. A gambler who is addicted to gambling may not earn money by gambling, but when he is out of gambling addiction, he can gain from gambling by making the right decision. I was addicted to gambling at one time and I realized that it took me a long time to get out of gambling addiction and I was able to get out. During the time when I was addicted to gambling, I used to make more wrong decisions in gambling but when I came out of this addiction, many wins came in my favor through the right decisions. I said from my opinion that as long as a gambler is addicted to gambling he cannot make a profit.

You're probably right.

I think the extremely small minority of people who end up winning more than losing in a casino have to be extremely lucky but also extremely diligent with their gambling.

If you continue gambling when you won big, you will probably end up losing it all anyway.

So, any addicted gambler will probably end up losing everything.
717  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: December 12, 2023, 06:52:18 AM
i think gamblng not about rich.
poor or rich same can win, but if rich can use marti can recovery lost in gamblng
maybe only win in you see or share if lost not share,  about  referal link promotion , can get referal comission

Yeah, there are other ways in which people actually get paid when dealing with casinos.

Normally gamblers would lose money, but if you are marketing a casinos, or streaming for a casino, etc, you might get commissions and other types of income, so you might actually end up earning money.

But that's a bit more like a normal job, not really gambling.
718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: December 12, 2023, 06:50:38 AM
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You're right; addiction to both drugs and gambling shows up in surprisingly similar ways. We see people, maybe coworkers or friends, getting stuck in bad habits that get into their work places and cause problems. Imagine a loyal worker who used to be on time and productive but is now sneakily drinking vodka from a fake bottle at their desk. In this case, addiction makes it hard to tell the difference between personal struggle and work behavior.

Doesnt it seem odd that different people see these habits in different ways? Alcoholism might make people feel sorry for the user, but gambling addiction might make people look down on them. Still, both come from the same internal flaws. Control and awareness are important for good gambling. But when it turns into an addiction, its like giving up control of your life.

We then ask, "What makes them go this way?" Feeling stressed? Get away? The fun? To help and intervene effectively, it is important to understand these underlying reasons. We should do more than just watch; we should offer our support, right?

Well, I think the reason why most gamblers continue in their addiction is because they feel good doing it.

There's a dopamine rush that comes with the chance of becoming rich.

It's quite similar to any other addiction really. The brain behaves in a similar way, waiting for the dopamine to reach it.
719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: December 12, 2023, 02:34:23 AM
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Yeah, you nailed the idea. It's similar with lottery. You often hear the lottery winners, because they are a story, special enough to be told. Everyone wants hope and as everyone has same opportunity, it feels possible and fair to win jackpot, even if it's unlikely. But in comparison, if you put a story of every single player that lost in lottery in a story. That story wouldn't be possible to read by anyone as it would be so long.

I wouldn't however tell anyone to stop playing just because winning is rare. That's why the jackpots are big in the first place. If winning would be easy, casinos would not have any money to give.

It's a personal preference.

In the end different people prefer different things. If you only look at it as a rational choice where only money matters, then it's not a good idea to gamble, because the expected return of any bet is negative. That is, you're expected to lose money over time by gambling.

However, there are other factors, such as entertainment, hope, etc. Those are hard to value, and change from person to person. Even from time to time for each person.
720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot games are a waste of time and money (most of the time) on: December 12, 2023, 02:31:18 AM
Why a waste of time? I mean, one could argue that anything that is not working, making cash and learning is a waste of time, but I remember that some rock star said "I have spent half of my money on women, drink and drugs, the rest I wasted". Jokes apart, the game is to have fun and should not serve any other particular purpose so that is not a waste if it works for you.

Yes, I agree with you.

It's a completely personal thing. For some people it is simply fun and they have no issues paying for it.

But, there are some people that stay playing their whole day, and they put every cent they have in there, and they don't even enjoy it.

There's a clear difference.
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