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701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer A3 earning $500 a day mining SIAcoin . .WHAT?! Results & Stats on: January 27, 2018, 09:24:57 PM
You dreaming  Grin I dont think it possible to earn $500 a day, the diff will go up each day so basically impossible

 Long term no, but folks that got their units EARLY for the first day or perhaps two?

702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Very first tests P104-100: 39 Mh/s ETH; 470 sol/s ZEC - Nice GPU! on: January 27, 2018, 09:21:45 PM
One thing to keep in mind on the Vega pricing - apples to oranges.
3 months ago the ONLY Vega cards available were reference design.
Today the only Vega cards available are 3'd party cards, with better cooling and SHOULD be higher performance.

*3* 8-pin power connectors on some of them though is crazy.
703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At today's prices it would take 10 months to pay back 1 1080ti before you made $ on: January 27, 2018, 09:17:59 PM
The only place in the Continental US that can argue for high rates with the WORST California rates are in the New England states.
California does see a lot of variation on rates - the large urban areas like San Diego and LA are high but not insanely so, while the rural areas like the mountainous heavy wooded far Northern part of the state tend to be VERY high rates.

It says a lot that a lot of the hydro power produced in Central Washington is sold all the way to California - and that's it's STILL cheaper despite transmission costs than they can manage locally in most of the state.

704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GTX 1070 Ti is now pre-order on newegg.com on: January 27, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
The Zotac "mini" cards are smaller than most others - ballpark 8" long where the Gigabyte "ITX" and MSI "Aero" shorty cards are less than 7" (EVGA also makes shortie cards but nothing higher than a 1060) and most cards are 10" more or less.

This limits how much heat sink CAN be put on the cards, so they don't cool quite as well as "full length" cards of the same GPU model generally do, though they DO cool better than some full-size BLOWER design cards do.

705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ban in China?! Redistribution of mining power? on: January 26, 2018, 08:25:41 PM
Hey! Have u heard that "PBoC governor Pan Gongsheng has suggested the Chinese government to shutdown OTC platforms and exchanges within mainland China to ensure that cryptocurrency trading ban is strictly enforced"? What is gonna happen ? Will we see the redistribution of mining power or China will not be able to realize it?

 Read your own post - no talk about "mining" in there at all.



I read many news and there are a lot of bulshit like that. Moreover, the main idea of these conversation is that I am interested in situations. What do u all think gonna happen in nearest Future in China?

 It would appear, based on REPUTABLE quotes, that China intends to get serious about regulating exchanges in an attempt to restrict or stop "capitol flight", but they don't care about mining itself except where it is getting major breaks on pricing from areas that used to have electric shortages - they HAVE said they intend to eliminate sweetheart deals in such cases.
I suspect they LIKE Bitmain for pulling a lot of external capitol INTO the country - but dislike how much of that Bitmain is using to pay for their chips to TSMC.

706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining ban in China?! Redistribution of mining power? on: January 26, 2018, 08:22:29 PM
It doesn't look like they're cracking down on mining... there's no visible or tangible signs yet. Rumours around Bitmain setting up data centers in Europe and Canada have emerged, but nothing tangible.
The chinese website Alibaba.com is still listing miners for sale, so I'd take any news you read with a pinch of salt
check https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/s9-antminer.html
Yeah, fair point. It is just strange that many big media sources as Bloomberg and CNN published some articles.
but don't u think that the last decrase in BTC value could be caused by these news ?

 Reality check here.
 You're trusting stuff CNN publishes?

 ROFLMAOSC!!!!!!!
707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Burstcoin Mining on: January 26, 2018, 08:18:35 PM
A 8tb drive makes about $18 a month now. Plug in 7270gb to this calculator: http://burstcoincalculator.com/

All in it's 10 months ROI and HDD is kinda like an ASCI because it only mines burst. Sure there's storj and sia but how many years will it take a fill hundreds of TB.

Past few months there were DDOS and their forum were down for weeks at a time. It's a lot more stable now.

It takes 14 hours to fill a 8 tb drive and another 14 hours to optimize it. Ramp up is slow. I got 12x 8tb drives, but imo money is better put in GPUs for now.

Does it make sense to run it on the same rig running the 5 x GPU?   Would this affect hte performance of the GPU mining?  (I'm using Nicehash). I have like $900 invested in motherboard, cpu, ram, power supply, operating system, spare ssd for system (in case other fails), 2tb backup usb drive, etc. So that something I wouldn't need to buy at least. All it would require is for me to spend $100 each for a few 4 TB HDD.

 It has ZERO effect on GPU mining, even when it's doing the actual drive reads for the active "mining", unless you are trying to run it on a 1 or 2 core CPU - then the effect is small and short-lived.

 SMR drives like the Seagate Archive line are pretty much PERFECT for BURST - you "plot" the drive once, and after that it's all READS from data that does not change.

 USB flash drives work, but WAY BLOODY EXPENSIVE per TB - not cost effective at all.
 The only machines I did THAT on were running small LINUX installations on "oversized" USB drives and I figured "might as well use the extra space for SOMETHING".

 HDD on a "per TB" basis STILL blow away any flash drive.
708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At today's prices it would take 10 months to pay back 1 1080ti before you made $ on: January 26, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
In my humble opinion, 10 month ROI isnt really that good if you consider that the equipments are on very fast depreciation schedule.

The ROI isnt as persistent as other types of investments, primary because mining causes standard computer parts to fail prematurely.

My X79 still runs fine after 8 years of service becase I only do web browsing with it, but...

The video cards in a mining rig may die in 1-2 years or less due to heavy cryptomining and/or faulty riser boards. tbh, I'm having some doubts about getting into mining.... jumped in when ROI was about 6 months.


 If you manage to kill a GPU in less than 5 years of mining on it, you're doing it WRONG.

 I have quite a few cards that have been mining (or running the DNet client, which is also crypto work and JUST as intensive to the GPU) since the LITECOIN GPU mining days in 2013/2014 that are STILL mining away today.

 Do quit spreading the "mining kills cards fast" FUD lies.

709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Best GPU's to mine ZCASH with? on: January 26, 2018, 08:08:22 PM
currently the evga is still efficient when it comes to mining equihash as stated in the video. 4.7sols/watt is the best settings overall.

i think there are 1070ti cards out there that can top this 4.7 sols. it's just that no one is experimenting / tinkering their 1070tis. how sad.

i hope there would be another alternative to evga. they're overpriced as of the moment.

 Haven't found a more efficient option yet, though all but 1 of the 1070 ti models I have to date can MATCH my EVGA SC 1070 ti cards on efficiency, and that one (ASUS blower model) was very close.

 It's the SAME GPU in the card, with a low power setting that makes cooling differences mostly a non-issue.

710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8x 1070ti Mining Rig Power Help on: January 26, 2018, 08:05:33 PM
Yeah, as others have pointed out, that's not going to work.

1) 2x 750 PSU's are not enough for 8 1070 TI's.  You can manage with 2x 850's.
2) You will have to put 4-4 GPU's on each PSU because I believe the G3 850 only has 4 GPU slots (therefore the 750 G3 will not have 5+).

If you don't already know this, you will need a Daisy Chain to link the PSU's to your mobo.

 2 x 750 are PLENTY for 8 1070 ti cards running at EFFICIENT settings.
 An 850 is enough for *5* of them at efficient settings with a fair bit of headroom.

 The issue is a combination of 4 VGA + 4 SATA/Perph slots on the PS, NOT just the VGA slots (which have DUAL power cables avalable).

711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: January 25, 2018, 07:43:06 PM

First question is, what does the 20Amps derated mean to 30amps PDU's?
 I am looking to see if I can run 4 rigs on a 30amp PDU from my Dryer connection. I live in an apartment and I have no other of changing anything, so I'm sacrificing my washer and dryer, I can do laundromats.


 It depends on the PDU - a few are "continuous rated" in which case they will probably be listed as "24 amp", most are not in which case a 30 amp unit should be derated to that 24 amps.

 The drier circuit is ITSELF probably a 30 amp circuit, in which case you would have to derate to 24 amps continuous usage ANYWAY.

 If your rigs eat 1320 watts "at the wall" or less, you should be fine with 4 of them.
 If your voltage at the outlet is higher than 220 volts, you can go proportionally higher on the wattage per rig safely.



Very well clarified, so you saying I can run 4 rigs if I pull 1320W from the wall, I truly was hoping to run 4 rigs off this one dryer outlet, so I can have run for expansion cos I see my incinerator runs on a 20Amps breaker but only rated for 5.6Amps, thinking of running an extension cord from the other outlet its plugged into.

Each rig running right now pulls 1050 and 980 respectively, still plan on dropping down the power draw on the 1050 one, letting it run because it gives me 204mh/s with 1150/2020 core/mem with 1500 straps and top at 110W, will revisit the rig and see if I can trade 10W on each card that's 70W for 1mh/s, 7 total, will bring the rig down to 197.

 Should be able to run *5* rigs if they are only pulling 1050 watts each.

 Extension cords to run a miner = VERY BAD idea, even the heavy-duty ones tend to heat up a lot at the connections.
712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GTX 1080 vs GTX 1080 Ti on: January 25, 2018, 07:39:15 PM
I have 2 rigs running currently both using NiceHash on windows 10

6 EVGA 1080 FTW
Running neoscrypt @ 7.02 MH/s
70TDP +50 core +500 memory
Draws approximately 1000 watts and 9 amps at the wall

The 2nd rig

6 Asus 1080ti turbo
Running neoscrypt @ 7.88 MH/s
65TDP +150 core +500 memory
Draws approximately 1150 watts and 9.5 amps at the wall

Interesting. I would have imagined the gap would be much bigger than that. Are you sure you have the 1080Ti's setup correctly? Maybe I do not understand neoscrypt but usually with most other coins the gap is a lot bigger.

 EVGA 1080 FTW cards are somewhat higher TDP than "normal" for 1080 cards - 215 watts or some such IIRC, so at 70% they're pulling 150 watts or so per card (which would be 83% on many other 1080 models).
 Gigabyte AORUS 1080 ti is 250 watts TDP, at 65% they're pulling 163 watts or so per card.

 THAT is why the gap is so small.

713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At today's prices it would take 10 months to pay back 1 1080ti before you made $ on: January 25, 2018, 07:34:02 PM
Looks like Newegg has joined the gouging party, $520 for a Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 8GB, sold and shipped by Newegg. If this keeps up they may start trading GPU's instead of coins. LOL.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202280

 Newegg has been high priced on the AMD side at least since this summer.
 Just not *AS* high priced as some of the gougers.
714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer A3 earning $500 a day mining SIAcoin . .WHAT?! Results & Stats on: January 25, 2018, 07:24:15 PM
so this is why my 1 1080ti cant get  1 coin in SIA
well to be fair, the baikalminers are also partially responsible xD lol

 SIA's algorithm isn't supported by any of the Baikal miners.
 That "Obelisk" group announced a SIA miner, but don't think it's actually shown up yet - if it EVER does.
715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia on: January 25, 2018, 07:22:33 PM
Lmao not our fault they're too closed-minded to see the profitability. This trains not stopping for anyone. Mine on.

 The profitability train is going to run into a major wreck called "Ethereum move to Proof of Stake" at some point, currently intended for late this year IIRC.

 Gonna be a BIG shakeout when that happens, since there are more cards mining Ethereum THAN ALL OTHER COINS COMBINED and that huge hoard of GPUs is all going to be looking for new homes at the SAME time.


716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Burstcoin Mining on: January 25, 2018, 07:14:43 PM
Every BURST calculator in existence is optimistic on earnings, due to a flaw in how the "network size" is calculated.
Figure you'll pull 60% or so of the "calculated" value as that's about what the ACTUAL returns average - if you can find a pool that stays up reliably for more than a week at a time any more.

717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8x 1070ti Mining Rig Power Help on: January 25, 2018, 07:12:54 PM
On 8 1070’s wouldn’t 2 750’s be right on the edge. I pull 1250 watts from 8 x 1070’s running at 65-75 percent power. I run 2 x 850’s in my 1070 rigs.

 The most efficient settings for the 1070 ti (NOT THE 1070) put the TDP at about 104 watts (slightly under 60%), which is only 416 watts.
 My 5-card "mix of 1070/1070ti/1080" rigs run all the cards in the 104-110 watt range and only pull 700 watts AT THE WALL despite using somewhat power hungry AMD 8320e CPUs for the most part - which is going to be more like 640 watts out of the PS itself (I do run them on Seasonic X-850 PS for the most part, one on a SS-860, as those have enough CONNECTIONS that I don't need to use splitters - but from a "handle the power" standpoint the EVGA G2/P2/T2 series would be fine).

 A 750 should easily handle an entire 4 card rig if running the cards at EFFICIENT settings, much less splitting an 8-card rig between 2 of the PS.

 Don't run the SSD on a power supply seperate from the MB - power draw is too low and too likely to do ground loops.
 Fans on the second PS make perfect sense.

718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Proof of Stake question on: January 25, 2018, 12:21:34 AM
I haven't seen any proof of stake coin that offered 4% per year (INVESTMENT returns not included).

 But I would also consider 8% a joke, given the high inherent risk of a PoS coin inherent REQUIREMENT that you have your wallet online all the time to stake with.
719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Burstcoin Mining on: January 25, 2018, 12:18:05 AM
You can, just don't expect big results.

720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8x 1070ti Mining Rig Power Help on: January 25, 2018, 12:17:19 AM
If you are running the cards at efficient settings, run 4 card + risers from one PS, run MB/etc + 4 other cards from the other PS.

You have enough connections to do that easily - 5 cards per is problematical as there aren't enough ports on the PS to go around without doing SOME sort of splitter stuff.

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