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701  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining Without A Case And Static Electricity??? on: May 05, 2011, 10:50:44 PM
Thank you for the incredibly detailed response, +1 for you!

Ah wrist straps, I almost forgot about those Tongue

Yes I am always quite careful to hold my components by their sides without touching anything.

So as long as I touch the large metal filing cabinet inside my workroom before I pick up a motherboard, I should be good right?
702  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: ask rate? on: May 05, 2011, 10:46:50 PM
what does the ask rate flag do for poclbm? and what should I set it to?

it's how often the miner should ask the server for new work.  and you should set it to whatever your mining pool advises or just leave it at the default (which is 5 seconds, iirc) if solo mining or if your pool doesn't specify.

"new work" as in, the next transaction block?
703  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why Don't "We" Pay Our Bitcoin Client Coders In BTC? on: May 05, 2011, 10:23:32 PM
There is a site for this (I think its something like bitcoin.cc.cz or bitcoin.cz.cc) but the problem is how to deal with people who don't pay.  Do you take the money before hand, how do you decide if there are ambiguous terms of payment, etc, etc.

I think we should collect the money before hand... Put your money where your mouth is so to speak.

I suggest we also have a board of competent coders decide what bug fix is worth what - and perhaps an accountant type to look after the overall value of the fund - similar to how a condominium board takes care of itself.

If you own a lot of bitcoins, it is in your best interest to give back to the community and improve the client - I don't think we'd be pulling any teeth here.

Perhaps one of the competing bitcoin mining pools might want to "donate" 1% of it's collected fee towards this charitable cause, and might attract more miners because of it.

Or perhaps the newly minted bitcoin millionaire (mentioned in another thread) might want to donate 1,000 or so to get things started!? (If he does, his new nickname is "Bitcoin Bill"  Roll Eyes)

$3k USD can go a long way in the world of outsourced programming.
704  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Why Don't "We" Pay Our Bitcoin Client Coders In BTC? on: May 05, 2011, 10:16:06 PM
Reasons not to do it:  allegations of corruption/favoritism if people doing the pulling have to decide between two pull requests.  Maybe less cooperation to find/fix things if people are competing for bounties.

This could easily happen, yes. Why don't we force contributions to be anonymous then?

You have to sign up for a new github account (and display a new bitcoin address) for each pull request you submit to the site.
705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Bitcoin Server Just Crashed For No Reason??? on: May 05, 2011, 10:09:52 PM
Here are the "details" that microsoft provided me with...

Code:
Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
  Application Name: bitcoin.exe
  Application Version: 0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp: 4d710f7b
  Fault Module Name: bitcoin.exe
  Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp: 4d710f7b
  Exception Code: 40000015
  Exception Offset: 00494191
  OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
  Locale ID: 1033
  Additional Information 1: 5059
  Additional Information 2: 50594bacf91ee35dd61f657f5dc0cc38
  Additional Information 3: 3bd2
  Additional Information 4: 3bd2e34847402d73855e65539a9290bb

Read our privacy statement online:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
  C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

I am using the 0.3.20.2 version of bitcoin on windows.
706  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Diskless Windows 7? on: May 05, 2011, 10:02:37 PM
Does anyone know how to install/boot Windows 7 without needing a local disk? I know it supports iSCSI but I've never done it before. I'm sure this would be useful to other people starting up a mining farm too.

Not that I know of, tried it every which way.
707  Bitcoin / Mining / Mining Without A Case And Static Electricity??? on: May 05, 2011, 10:00:57 PM
When I was in school learning computer networking about 10 years ago... my instructor always drilled into us how important it was to "ground" yourself by touching something large and metal before touching any bare computer parts lest they be zapped and fried to death by a dreaded static shock...

To this day I religiously touch some metal before working on my computers, but with so many cases out in the open right now with mining I am beginning to get a little worried.

Basically my question is: Is there really/still a need to worry about static electricity ruining your boards?

Side note: I went to un plug my metal usb drive the other day and felt a slight shock but it's still running smoothly.
708  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Quad Radeon 6950 mining rig troubles on: May 05, 2011, 07:07:29 PM
I have built a mining rig with 4 Radeon 6950's and I'm having no end of problems.

The first problem was heat.  Those puppies just sit so close together that there was no room for air to move and it sounded like a jet aircraft before I even started mining.  So I took out two gpus and ran it on air cooling until the water cooling equipment showed up.

This was my first water cooling system so it took me a while to setup.  The forums at Overclock.net were extremely helpful there.  But after a day or so, it's all physically setup.

After installing Windows 7 (32bit) without issue, everything seemed extremely stable and quiet.  Gotta love quiet.

I installed the guiminer and it wouldn't even start.  Neither would MSI Afterburner.  GPU-Z would start but with a dialog saying that there was a "Bug in the OpenCL driver.  OpenCL checks will be skipped".

I spent the next 4 days (I'm on vacation) trying various drivers and even a variety of Linux distributions with no luck.

Right now, I am only running 3 cards and everything is fine.  But if I install that 4th card then the whole world goes to crap.

My question is: Has anyone gotten 4 Radeon 69XX cards to run together harmoniously?

My contribution to the community is this:
1) XFX Radeon HD 6950 1 Gig cards (HD-695X-ZNFC) are not reference cards for water cooling purposes.  They are however laid out exactly like the 6870 reference cards so you can get a full coverage block for a reference 6870 and it fits perfectly.
2) If you have cards that aren't plugged into monitors and they show up as "disabled", what you need is a dummy plug.  It is, in essence, a DVI to VGA adapter with 3 resistors plugged into it.  Google "DVI Dummy Plug" and you'll find lots of instructions.
3) The three cards I have running are overclocked to 920Mhz and produce around 340Mhash/s each.  The hottest card runs at about 60C.

Thanks,
Jere

How exactly does the "whole thing go to crap"?

Does your OS bluescreen or something?
709  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Would a solo rig connected at 1G/s have a mining advantage over a rig with 1M/s? on: May 05, 2011, 07:05:14 PM
Seriously though: I was asking if the speed of your network had anything to do with your mining capability, not the speed of hashing or the speed or anything really... And apparently it does not!
When I first saw the title my first thought was because you hadn't mentioned units you were asking if 1Ghash/s had an advantage over 1Mhash/s Cheesy. It probably would have made it clearer to say 1Gb/s versus 1Mb/s, maybe the other poster didn't notice either, I only realised what you were talking about when I read down further about a modem etc.

Lol.... quite true!

I would have placed 1GHps if the title length would have allowed for it!? Apparently there is a maximum title length.
710  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Would a solo rig connected at 1G/s have a mining advantage over a rig with 1M/s? on: May 05, 2011, 11:25:25 AM
Would a car with 100Km/h on the dial have an advantage over a car with 10Km/h?

What connection does a bitcoin miner have with a car?

And the ratio you are looking for is 1000 to 1 Wink Just being cheeky!

Seriously though: I was asking if the speed of your network had anything to do with your mining capability, not the speed of hashing or the speed or anything really... And apparently it does not!
711  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Pros and cons of using new Bitcoin addresses for each transaction? on: May 05, 2011, 10:17:12 AM

I think the number of addresses is like 33^62 (26+26+10?) that's over 10^94. If a trillion people each have a trillion addresses that's 10^24. The odds of picking a taken addy even after all that is so vanishing it's absurd. And no 10^24/10^94 is not 1/4.

Wouldn't it actually be 62^33? I think you got the order wrong.

Yes. Yes it would.
712  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Discussion re: "New to BitCoin? Start here!" on: May 05, 2011, 09:40:09 AM
It's "Bitcoin", not "BitCoin".

Hrmmm, yes not quite sure if there has been a discussion on that one yet.

"Bitcoin" could easily become it's own word, instead of an almagamation, depending on who you ask I suppose. Time for a new thread!?
713  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Is it "Bitcoin", "BitCoin" or "Bit Coin"? on: May 05, 2011, 09:39:52 AM
Is it "Bitcoin", "BitCoin" or "Bit Coin"?

What do you think and why?
714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Vote to get bitcoin on Fox's Freedom Watch! on: May 05, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
I just left my vote.

Seriously guys, it's super simple.

Just visit the link in the OP, sign in through your google account, and click on "3 votes". Done!
715  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Let's Put The AMD/ATI Conspiracy Theory To Rest.... on: May 05, 2011, 09:31:38 AM
I have read in a few posts that AMD (the company behind the ATI chipsets that we all love so much) could possibly have created Bitcoin to enhance their market share.

According to this link, if that is true, they are doing a horrible job.

Just FYI.
716  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Would a solo rig connected at 1G/s have a mining advantage over a rig with 1M/s? on: May 05, 2011, 09:25:51 AM
Yeah Tycho is right. You do not need a lot of bandwidth to mine. An acoustic coupler or a shoe string communications device is enough :p

Where you would indeed need more bandwidth is if you wanted to operate a "bitcoin supernode" (ie a bitcoin client hacked to accept a ridiculously large number of incoming connections and hence be so called "very well connected").

But since you're solo mining bandwidth isn't important.

Why might one want to become a supernode? To help the bitcoin network? Or to increase your mining efficiency? Or both?

deadlizard, what shenanigans?!  Undecided

Thanks for your insight tycho!

One might want to become a supernode merely to be as connected as possible to the network. This is especially useful if you're running a mining pool. Also you can help the bitcoin network out if you are behind a very stable and fast internet connection (ie 100 mbit and up) but there is of course a point of diminishing return where one can be "too connected." Being better connected has no bearing on mining efficiency.

shenanigans:

1. Secret or dishonest activity or maneuvering.
2. Silly or high-spirited behavior; mischief.




Heh, I know what it meant - I just don't know why he called it!?

Despite my higher post count, I am still relatively new to bitcoin!

Thanks for your input allinvain!
717  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Would a solo rig connected at 1G/s have a mining advantage over a rig with 1M/s? on: May 05, 2011, 08:00:30 AM
Yeah Tycho is right. You do not need a lot of bandwidth to mine. An acoustic coupler or a shoe string communications device is enough :p

Where you would indeed need more bandwidth is if you wanted to operate a "bitcoin supernode" (ie a bitcoin client hacked to accept a ridiculously large number of incoming connections and hence be so called "very well connected").

But since you're solo mining bandwidth isn't important.

Why might one want to become a supernode? To help the bitcoin network? Or to increase your mining efficiency? Or both?

deadlizard, what shenanigans?!  Undecided

Thanks for your insight tycho!
718  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Why Don't "We" Pay Our Bitcoin Client Coders In BTC? on: May 05, 2011, 07:58:41 AM
Imagine this...

A fund of Bitcoins held by some reputable member on this forum... of which ~10% would be distributed evenly each month to the coders who worked on the Bitcoin client that month.

Submit 100 lines of 10,000 total new lines of code, receive 1% of the 10% monthly payment.

Submit 5,000 of the 10,000 total new lines of code, receive 50% of the 10% monthly payment.

The fund would be generated simply through donations from miners who have a vested interested in the Bitcoin community's growth.

Not sure how you would calculate the percentages of payment since I am not a programmer... but it could work?!
719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin on: May 05, 2011, 07:06:26 AM
* We need proxies, browser plugins and DNS servers created to act as a bridge between Namecoin and users.

By this, do you mean TOR and/or similar? I have access to 100mbps that I generally don't use! (PM me if so, this thread is freaking huge...)
720  Bitcoin / Mining / Would a solo rig connected at 1G/s have a mining advantage over a rig with 1M/s? on: May 05, 2011, 07:00:55 AM
Would a solo rig connected at 1G/s have a mining advantage over a rig with 1M/s?

Or how about a dial up (14.4K/s)?

Why or why not?
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