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7021  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: July 05, 2017, 07:46:54 AM
I first got bitcoin from withdrawing from gambling sites.  I deposited with another method but could withdraw bitcoin so i did it.  Around that time bitcoin was around $220 usd or so and when i got it, i would then trade it for poker funds from other person etc because I didn't want to hold the bitcoins due to reading about price fluctuations.  However, isn't the value of bitcoin almost always going to go up so its best to hold it?  I know last year it was $600 and the highest was when it was more than $1000 per bitcoin.  But since it is all the way down to $200-$300, isn't having bitcoin always good?  Could bitcoin go all the way to 0 soon?  I had thought hey if you get bitcoin when its $230 when the price stayed like that for a long time, thats great b/c very hard for it to go below $200 because i haven't seen that.  But even if it does, isn't it almost always going to rebound and go back up?  Last time i had btc and it was $230 or so and now it went up to $260.  So if you have say 100 bitcoins... well... thats a nice $3000 profit or so.


I'm sure there are ppl that have thousands or bitcoins right and just hold on to it?  And many that would sell btc immediately if prices go all the way up?  If someone had say 500 bitcoin... then btc price went up $20 in say a week or so... selling it would net them $10000 minus fees right?  However if they sell it via localbitcoins or other method, they are going to get a higher profit right?  However if they do this, say sold all their 500 btc... then once bitcoin later in the year go up another $50... well that would be $25000 less they would have earned.



In general, isn't holding BTC always a good thing since the price of it is pretty low now?  Obviously if you bought btc at $600 or $1000 and thought it would went up and held on to your btc, that would been a disaster.  But since its in the $200-$300 range, isn't having BTC always good?

Bitcoin will hit 1Mn as per the experts.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/goldman-sachs-bitcoin-price-is-in-sweet-spot-eyes-4000-in-2017
Coming from a reputable group, we should believe it will happen.
I am also confident it will he achieve easily this year, hello.. We are close to $3,000 dollars already and we still have more months to end this year,
I think  we will see that soon, you know a lot of surprises will happen so we should be ready with that.
7022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: July 05, 2017, 06:24:36 AM
I'm planning to buy bitcoin. Or perhaps earn only some from services here. I am told that we can earn bitcoin here. I will just to wait for my rank to go up. I will have to posts relevant posts right now.
You can earn if you work but don't expect to get a lot of bitcoins because it's not possible, you need to invest money and learn how to trade, that is the best way to increase your bitcoins or maybe buy and hold if you have a decent capital to start investing. This is not to discourage you but I am just telling you the reality, in my experience I also invest and raise a capital in trading.
7023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Bittrex and Liqui.io (BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: July 05, 2017, 05:15:07 AM
This pump is insane. Let's go for 2$ at least.
No we are going to hit 1 dollar first and everything will follow..
Right now it has slowly breaking the 30,000 sats and when it happen I am sure the price will
push through, this is good for us, keep holding and trust the developers.
Is there any truth in what you are saying at the moment, so how long will it take to see prices going around 30k ??
The price in bittrex and liqui are now more than 29k satoshis and it's possible to break 30k sats anytime. Let's wait and see because there's no specific time for that. I'm glad to see the price going up like that from 22-23k sats in just short span of time.

I would not have guessed at the current EDG price, and some coins that I had then and sold it at 15k price made me hurt to see that price ...

You guys who do not believe on the price should check bittrex, the 24 hours high is already 30,000 sats and this might be the beginning of the continues pump. Well, those who really hold their tokens are so happy now since price has increase 10x of its ICO price.
7024  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin heading to $4,000 on: July 05, 2017, 03:10:25 AM
Bitcoin is a blessing to some of us here. We can testify, how since the beginning of this year that, we have make alot of return on our investment in bitcoin. I foreseeing bitcoin touching $4,000 before the end of October this year. Hope you join us in this less risk investment.

Right now altcoins are crushing the cryptocurrency game and they are really affecting the volatile character of bitcoin due to the obvious shift in demand towards ICO's and altcoins.

Upon activation of segwitx2 we could see a larger scale in operation of bitcoin as well as faster confirmation times leading to a hopeful increase in the price of bitcoin. The bitcoin hashrate also seems to have increased due to a large scale demand of mining equipment in Russia. All these are the information that could prove fatal in regards to the price heading to 4000$ in the coming months.
That was a nice statement and I could always agree with that, I know we are excited to see that price but bitcoin never failed us and in fact it has surprised the people to have this current price now too early. In other words to make things simple, bitcoin's demand is increasing for whatever people's activity on it.
7025  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE - 🎲🎲🎲 7 NEW GAMES HAVE BEEN ADDED 🎰🎰🎰 on: July 05, 2017, 02:41:19 AM
Been getting the Internal Server Error for this site. Can only be fixed if I reset my browser which is a bummer since I have to close all the tabs I'm playing on just to login to this site. BTW I'm using chrome browser.

I've never encountered this error and the site has been working fine. Be aware that you can only have one tab opened to the site at a time as opening a new one will close the sessions in your other tabs.

When does the issue happen for you?

I have had same error message and it fixed after I cleared my cookies and cache.
Clearly it's not a site problem but only to our browser, just access now again and I had not encountered the problem like yo did.
Even before when some had issue in accessing the site I do not experience it also, I don't know if IP affected the access also but I'm
sure I am using an IP that are not ban from gambling, I mean my real IP where my location is.
7026  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: July 04, 2017, 11:59:53 PM
For yes bitcoin is more familiar than USD in terms of investment and trading bitcoin is more popular than USD. Bitcoin today is more familiar currency today in all over the world because of an internet access and many investors invest and people wants invest in bitcoin and earn profit. They know that they have a future in bitcoin and this the reason why they investing in bitcoin. Bitcoin has a future and you can earn a good profit. The bitcoin is succeed and still currency in the future. Bitcoin is still popular currency and it increases the value that's why this is more popular than USD.
So that there who did not say I use very well today and the dollar in Bitcoin according to their parameters when one replaces another. Only in this case I can use this and other currencies well. That I like it suits me.
Both are popular, bitcoin just recently gets popular since it has increased its price significantly, hence it gives the investors a good return for their money. You cannot hold your dollar because the value will surely depreciate due to inflation but when it comes to spending USD is more convenience.
7027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: July 04, 2017, 11:21:18 PM
Investing money in good projects is better choice in compare to going for direct gambling as in gambling there is no formula to make money every time and most of the times you will be loosing so its a big risk to depend on gambling for living and I don't think it can ever help in your life and make it more helpful.

Yes it is much better that is why I also choose to invest however I do gamble as well. Not that I hope to get more money from gambling but it is only because I am having fun when I play. The thing is the risk is equivalent to the bankroll that we use so if we only use a small amount then the risk is not that high

Its fun to gamble with a small amount and try our luck in it and who knows if we are lucky then we can win bigger amount even with a small capital but that would be done once in a blue moon and that also if we are super lucky and we cannot depend on luck every time to make money.
The problem is we will be looking for more fun the moment we get our goal to win, that greediness inside will make  us aim more which is unlikely to be achieve in gambling. The moment we get frustrated will be the start of our bad luck, I jus hope we will mature after a lot of losing experience we've gone through in gambling.
7028  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: July 04, 2017, 06:19:11 AM
I really made plan before I make trades. I made strategies and trade plans. But when I am about to start trading I always get nervous a little bit excited and fear. which results to miscalculations and bad trade management. Anyone there have a system to control this kind of emotions.
Its normal bro since practice will allow you to conquer this fear and the more you proceed and take the risk the more you will able to succeed doing some plan and create an strategy will surely create confidence and build your good assessment.
The risk of losing is always present and your exposure will increase if you cannot manage your emotion. Trading is like a game where you are required to have a strategy and in order to succeed you have to effectively execute your strategy, of course you can always improve your skills if you learn from the past and correct your mistakes immediately.
7029  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What kind of worst decisions do you take when trading? on: July 04, 2017, 05:30:58 AM
If I go wrong because it is still new in trading, when I was wrong to see and read the MACD chart should I sell instead of buying, I was buying high prices within 5 minutes direct price dropped dramatically.

How did your trading experience make the worst decisions?

My worst decision is when I sell my some coins and suddenly that coins is pump up and I really regret that because the coin that I hold pump 2x its value. So from now on I hold different coins.
When trading with type holder, the most important factor is patience and calm with any situation. Set target and forget that coin bought, and when a beutiful day, you can see a huge profit from this coin Grin
The coins we have will always pump and dump because it's the nature of cryptocurrency and therefore we should wait for the right timing to buy and sell in order to make profit. Never regret when you sold your coins as long as you did it for profit, the price may dump therefore patience is necessary to sell when its back up again.
7030  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: July 04, 2017, 12:53:13 AM
If you mean doing a real job or giving effort. The freelance jobs are the best source of bitcoin. They pay you in bitcoin.
I know they pay with bitcoin but only for those who are qualified to do the job, if your skills are on demand then you can get a good salary.
However, I am done with that kind of payment system as you cannot maximize your earning since you only have a limited time, I know some people does not consider trading as a job but it is for me now, I can consider it since it gives me steady income and I am happy as a trader, maybe that is my secret.
7031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 03, 2017, 11:25:36 AM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin
No. Why is gambling wrong? And about losses, profits, it depends on your skills, your luck and your feeling. To consider a gambling section is good or bad, it's all about personal feeling.

Right. I even think gambling cam be good to someone if they do it correctly and responsibly. If you gamble recklessly and end up asking money from others or even trrating others badly if you don't get a positive outcome, that's when it goes wrong. So keep your emotions to yourself when you gamble.
Gambling is definitely not a risk if you will not take a risk, meaning the outcome depends on the gamblers performance and if you play for fun and have the skills to control yourself you will be out of risk and you will never call gambling as a wrong activity.
I have made mistakes in the past and just like everyone who are upset I also thought gambling is a bad thing but eventually I understand and correct my mistakes.
7032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: July 03, 2017, 09:01:03 AM
Many changes in NBA next season. Paul George in OKC, we didn't see it coming. CP3 in Rockets and Redick in Sixers, with this Clippers wouldn't be as tough as before. Melo on Cavs and maintaining their Big3, I guess that would match up now the line up of GSW.

Curry on breaking the $200M barrier which is he really deserved. He only paid in the last four season for $44M and next season he will be paid $40.2M. He's hard work has been paid. Well done.
Yeah there's a lot of happenings to NBA for the upcoming season. And I really didn't expect that Paul George is going to OKC he's going to be with the beast. I like the addition that was done by the Cavs. I read an update also from the Minnesota Timberwolves and they quite have something for it already.
Now it's getting more exciting for the OKC, they have what they really need. Paul George is a good addition and I am hoping for a healthy season for him along with Westbrook, they need to play according to their rules so they will have an effective duo, I can't wait to see how it works.
7033  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE - 🎲🎲🎲 7 NEW GAMES HAVE BEEN ADDED 🎰🎰🎰 on: July 03, 2017, 08:33:37 AM
Hey Guys,

SITE UPDATE 23 June

Today was a bit technical update.

Our Authorization platform was moved from Rails-code to Elixir.

Except the obvious 1000% speed improvements we are now able to move the rest codebase to Elixir. Which will profoundly increase speed, responsiveness, stability. But that's not all. This move allowed us to separate user accounts and secret-seed work from the rest codebase and we expect to join new developers soon who will work on the site without access to sensitive information.

And there's gonna be a real HUGE update soon. Smiley  

Regards,
Alex

That's is excellent news Alex, Bitdice was always nice and with this update it shall be even nicer, I can't wait to try out the new updated site, I think this should soon get the site in top 3 very soon, and hopefully we all shall get it there. It may take a while but it shall surely get there. Very happy to be associated with this site, keep it going onwards and upwards. 


I'm surprised with Bitdice, it's not a boring site as they make more updates that will only improve the site to give the gamblers the best experience.
Looking for the update soon, I am sure it will be more fun to play with the new update, more games to play will give more fun along with the best security.
7034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: July 03, 2017, 07:41:28 AM
Definitely,
Experience always plays an important role at every stage, if you have experience then you can take decision based on your previous experience. Since gambling is a luck based games so that, luck is also required to win gambling, but gambling has some strategy in order to gain in gambling so experience matters.

With experience, it is not really a definite guarantee that a gambler will always win. This is especially true to gambling games that are based on pure luck. However, if it is requiring skills like poker, then experience and skills play a vital role for you to win more than losing games.
That's why we have to know what games we like to play so we could make the right approach that is needed in order to win.
Skilled based games is the key towards long term success but only few of us get interested to it since it is more complicated compared to games offered that are only based on luck.
7035  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: July 03, 2017, 07:31:26 AM
my country is not supporting anything like drugs/bitches
bitcoin is accepted as well in my country so
In my country, bitcoin is also considered legal currency but because very few people know and care about it, it is still not recognized and used. I hope everyone will soon realize the benefits of bitcoin so that bitcoin can be used in my country.
Because there are not many people like bitcoin in your country, the government do not abandon it. I can ensure that once there are many people get into bitcoin, the government will promulgate some regulation and restriction to avoid people using this cryptos

That is true.
Be wary once it is being populated.
This might change the fact that it is a free currency. There will be making some rules which you wont expect and they will be enforced with speed.
Once a lot of money is at stake they will want to have a part of that too.
This aint new considering they have done it with other commodities.
The government has to do what they think is right but big countries like japan and china can lead as an example that bitcoin is not a threat but in fact it will help to improve the economy of the country. I wish in the future to come some countries will see bitcoin as a good one including those who previously ban it, they have to review bitcoin as it could be a blessing to improve their economy.
7036  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me a secret: any way to earn 0.1 BTC per week? on: July 02, 2017, 10:34:23 PM
Right now I will start to be more concetrated to trading because I think that only trading is way  to get earnings like this.I have tried revenue share,cloud mining.faucet sites ,ptc sites and all become scam once so only trading left for me.
I think trading is the best way to earn bitcoin but you need a lot of knowledge before you do that and you cannot earn fast but you can earn slowly butsurely. Dont try to use again ptc site and faucer and dont try again to invest in hyip and cloudmining because all of this are scam
Yeah trading requires more knowl- edge about price analysis, predictions, bitcoin markets, with that skill then the risks involved in trading will be smaller and the chances of your profits will be even greater And if you have great skills and capital. 0.1 btc per week is not a difficult thing
Knowing what you need in order to be profitable in trading  gives you a chance to achieve it, the theory is always readable and available in the internet but the big challenge is on the execution, you have to be wise to execute it effectively in order to succeed. I am making money in trading but I can say I am not good enough since I do not get my biggest goal yet which is to earn a big amount of money.
7037  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: July 02, 2017, 07:14:44 AM
I think it is almost impossible to make money without money that is why the rich get richer and poor get poorer. So when good investment opportunity come by you need money to key in.so money is the major factor to make money.
No money is not a major key. If you have skills, and can face latest technology then no need to invest in to make money. Visit earning bitcoin sites you will struggle a little then easily you will earn some bitcoins then invest and make a money. So no need to say that from money you makes money. it is a poor step to start a conversation like that.
It seems to me that this question has sounded an ambiguous answer you can understand the reality and also in different ways. The fact is that money is money that gives you the opportunity to get even more profits and even in the same Bitcoin. Without money, nothing happens. Not everyone can be engaged in mining and therefore in order to get bitcoins you need to realize the starting capital.
No, it's still possible to make money even without money
and that is by having a job. However we as human are ambitious enough as we want more to live a comfortable
life and in my own understand who have been working for many years only few can live a comfortable life, hence we need to take the risk to spend our money to grow.
7038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: July 02, 2017, 06:15:00 AM
Never in my life that i felt ashamed in doing gambling because this is my hobby. I respect what my hobby is. And im really proud about it so why would i feel ashamed about it.
especially if you can get a lot of money from our hobby why should also be shameful? at least if our hobby does not harm others we should not be ashamed.
You don't need a lot money just to make gambling as your hobby, as long as you have the discipline to gamble and be able to control yourself, besides gambling is only good for entertainment for majority since chances of winning is really low.
7039  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: July 02, 2017, 01:52:24 AM
Seeing the bitcoin price is currently stable, I think it would not hurt to hold bitcoin a little longer. Well, it could be in the near future, bitcoin prices will be high, and I think, the decision will not make you lose.
I also think it will not gonna go down to $2,000, the current is stable but we are looking for a better price since that is our ultimate goal which would eventually bring us money. To sell is also part of my plan but I am still waiting for a good price which would give me a great profit.
My principle is never sell for a lose and always buy on dip, been doing this all the time and I can say i'm successful so far.
7040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: July 02, 2017, 01:21:41 AM
I do not use analysis for gambling, because I play first for pleasure, not for earnings. Analysis will distract from excitement and lose the taste of the game.
Well, you have your method but I tell you man, if you will not use analysis of whatever games you are playing now, you will not gonna enjoy it in the long run. I know in games where there is a house edge we will not win in the long run, but doing some analysis will give us some kind of challenge and since there is no strategy that will work, we will always be challenge every time we play.
yes that is important to me although i do not have such a good experience in gambling so as to do analysis and but still i try my best to get some information about the game where i am going to invest money and then take decision in the light of such information, it really help me in winning the bet and some time also help me to avoid a risky decision in gambling.
The good thing with analyzing our bets is we will be able to improve our strategy although it does not guarantee a win in the long run especially in games that has a house edge. Knowing when to stop or quit already requires you to analyze the situation and whatever the circumstances is, you have to execute the plane to stop to avoid or minimize loses when things does not go on your way.
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