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7041  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: bitcoin priča - merit giveaway on: March 20, 2020, 08:38:14 AM
kad svi dele price, evo da podelim i ja svoju, mada nisam imao iskustvo gubitka BTC-a, imam iskustvo promasene prilike iz raznoraznih okolnosti

prvi cin:
za BTC sam cuo malo pre toga, ali sam ga upoznao negde 2013, kada je Avatrade dodao BTC na listu asset-a za trgovinu, malo sam istrazivao i pomislio da je to bezvredna stvar, verovatno nisam ni imao vise vremena da ga bolje upoznam, naravno da je iz ove prilike i meni cudno sto nisam potrosio vise vremena na to, ali tada mi to stvarno nije izgledalo bitno, u to vreme je bio oko 200 EUR, pa je onda odletio na 1000 EUR (sreca te ga nisam shortao pre toga, toliko je bilo moje poverenje u njega)
cak sam gledao neke alternativne digitalne novcice, nisam ni razmisljao o blockchain-u kao nekoj vrsti buducnosti, a mislio sam uloziti u eDEM ili eKrona spekulacije radi, jer su bile na pocetku, za koje sada ni tvorci ne znaju sta rade i cemu bi sluzile Smiley

drugi cin:
sredinom 2014 mi je opet do oka dosao BTC, jer je LTC poceo da se trade-a na Avatrade-u, pa sam gledao sta je to, cak pokusavao da namestim mining LTC-a na racunaru, ali nisam uspeo preterano da se zainteresujem za celu pricu, i podesim mining, verovatno su dnevne obaveze i kolicina posla presudile da se to ne desi tada, mislim da je LTC bio oko 2$ tada, i onda je usledilo zatisje i mog trejdanja na Avatrade-u, a i interesovanja za kripto valute i uopste su mi se interesovanja okrenula na drugu stranu

treci cin:
u leto 2016 sam opet naleteo na BTC, i to tada prvi put i na ETH, nekako mi je na reklami izasao jedan faucet, pa sam onda putem Faucet-a skupljao BTC, LTC, DOGE i ETH, vise mi je bilo interesantno kako se nesto dobija za dz, namestio block.io web wallet i myetherwallet i skupljao nekih mesec dana sa par faucet-a, ali se nisam odlucio da kupim, da sam nasao jednostavan nacin verovatno bi, ili naleteo na bitcointalk.org web, ali eto nisam i sve je ostalo na tome, drzalo me mesec-dva dana, skupio sam nesto kripta (tada je jos bilo moguce skupljati na taj nacin) i vremenom zaboravio, krenula jesen obaveze na poslu itd.

cetvrti cin:
prvog januara 2018 sam odlucio pogledati zasto je BTC otisao na 20k, mora da ima nesto cim svi vicu balon, balon, balon, i od tada se konstantno edukujem, citam, ucim, i krajem 2018 (krajem decembra) sam kupio svoj prvi ETH, i tokom 2019 ulagao prvenstveno u ETH, a onda i diversifikao portfolio na nekih 20-tak koina/tokena, sa ETH i STEEM kao glavnim u portfolio-u, videcemo dokle ce me to dovesti u buducnosti, nemam nameru prodavati, a trgujem vrlo retko (dosta losih lekcija sa Avatrade iz proslosti)

pet cin:
pre dva dana sam kupio svoj prvi BTC, na 5100 USD, i evo lepo je krenulo, valjda ce tako i nastaviti
7042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which coins are your safe haven now? on: March 19, 2020, 10:06:13 PM
there is no safe haven at the moment, in crypto, or investment altogether, since everything is going down, and all investors are reaching for cash, and will decide about investment opportunities later, i do not remember situation like this in last fifteen years, since i am investing money
7043  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: March 19, 2020, 09:25:14 PM
cestitam na odbrani trofeja, ja sam pokusao da iskoristim priliku sto je ekipa fokusirana na finale, pa da ti uzmem bar bod u prvenstvu, ali nista od toga, moracu da posaljem ekipu na visinske pripreme
7044  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: March 18, 2020, 08:08:21 PM
uzeo sam bod Kerki i dobio 16 miliona navijaca, ne znam koliko bi dobio da sam pobedio, verovatno 100+ miliona, ali s obzirom da nisam imao sut na gol, nisam mogao da ocekujem vise, a nisam ni bod Smiley , inace njemu je eff OVR protiv mene bio 989, izgleda da mu ceo tim ima +20% trait-ove
7045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Steem community hardfork - Hive.blog will be launched on Friday on: March 18, 2020, 02:23:39 PM
Steem community will launch a hardfork on Friday, to overcome issues with Justin Sun, after he bought stake from Steemit Inc in steemit.com social network, and all existing steemit users will receive mirror airdrop on hive network, and new networks will be independent from the hive mainnet launch, all information on following link

https://hive.blog/communityfork/@hiveio/announcing-the-launch-of-hive-blockchain

stakes from exchanges that took part in emergency hardforks will be void and null, and will not receive airdrop, as well as main steemit ninja-mined stake, that was part of the sell, by Steemit Inc.
hive promised that network will be open for development, has currently 30 committed developers, and will be decentralized forever

edit:
in this red market, Steem took a way up, with 50%+ rise today, due to fork on Friday, and reached position 53, nearing top 50 coins after two years being closer to position 100
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/steem/
7046  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: March 18, 2020, 01:43:11 PM
odlican primer kako se decentralizovana zajednica bori sa novim vlasnikom vecinskog paketa, koji je kupljen od Steemit Inc, na linku je hronologija dosadasnjih dogadjanja od kupovine, na STEEM blockchain-u

https://www.coindesk.com/steem-community-mobilizes-popular-vote-in-battle-with-justin-sun

cini se da je u pitanju vrlo interesantna borba, i ne naslucuje joj se kraj, ali deluje da se Justin povlaci posle odluke Binance-a da povuce pravo glasa sa stake-ovanim STEEM-om

nadovezujem se na svoj raniji post, ne znam koliko je ostalima interesantno i koliko se to prati, ali evo izgleda da je borba privedena kraju, i steem community se odvaja od steemit platforme, lansira hive blockchain

https://hive.blog/communityfork/@hiveio/announcing-the-launch-of-hive-blockchain

svi steemit korisnici ce dobiti airdrop kao kopiju preseka stanja u trenutku lansiranja chain-a, sto ce biti 20.03., 10am, i dva chain-a ce biti potpuno razdvojena, eto prilike da se vidi da li decentralizovana zajednica moze da prodje bolje od centralizovane, kakav ce ostati steemit pod Justin-om, koji sigurno nece ostaviti ulozeni novac bez da pokusa da razvije platformu i pridobije TRX korisnike da je koriste
7047  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: March 18, 2020, 01:23:04 PM
opa, i kerka ispao. mogao bi sloth odbranit titulu.

A nadam se da hoću, ali sve ekipe koje su ostale su bolje pozicionirane od mene i imaju bolju ekipu. Možda Rijeka nema bolju ekipu ali s njima se ionako neću srest vjerojatno.

Bumo vidjeli uskoro, Prvo mi sljedi Masterath town a protiv njih čak imam i ok score.

rijeka je ispala od foolkillera.

U zadnje tri utakmice u ligi sam imao jedan šut. 3 poraza naravno.

Foolkiller je nivo 30, ne znam gde ste vi, ali deluje mi da to predstavlja igranje 24/7, ne znam kako bi drugacije mogao stici do tog nivoa? sa desetak turnira dnevno (neretko paralelno diamond i solo) ja sam na nivou 21, sta reci - puna posvecenost igrici i skidanju Kerke sa trona
7048  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: March 18, 2020, 11:16:43 AM
Euro 2020 have been moved to the next year. It is a good decision. UEFA expect that everything can be in normal in June. UCL finale is scheduled to 27 June in Instanbul, do you think it will really be possible to play then? "Only" 102 days until that.

Quote
UEFA confirm Champions League is on hold INDEFINITELY until further notice amid reports final had been delayed until June 27 due to coronavirus crisis

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8120809/CORONAVIRUS-Champions-League-final-JUNE-27.html?ito=social-facebook&fbclid=IwAR3wPSODiYy1KWnhcvy9mFCUeXAJ6SOtNYUs1riW4wCsE3rCTOfYwNWWnvs

it all depends how the virus will go on in the future, if we take China for example, three months should be enough for the situation in Europe to normalize, but that does not means that all will be back to normal after one day, and all will follow numbers and update their decisions accordingly, i presume that June, 27 is too soon to be achievable, because that is four weeks delay, and suspension seems to be at least to May, 1 for the QF, they will probably join rounds in one week, instead this format with two weeks for one match round
7049  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Budućnost Ethereuma i ostalih altcoina on: March 18, 2020, 08:24:01 AM

Gledam da će zlato još neko dogledno vrijeme biti primarni store of value instrument. Samim time ne mislim da će mu BTC odmah konkurirati po market capu, ne vjerujem ni da ga nužno moraju podijeliti. Isto tako, BTC na 10k$ jednostavno nema dovoljan market cap da bude store of value kojem cijena ne fluktuira po 20% dnevno.


slazem se da ne mora imati marketcap kao zlato, ali sam vise mislio da vidim u odnosu na sta se drugi referisu, mozemo se referisati i na ukupnu kolicinu dolara u opticaju, pa dolazimo do BTC od 4 miliona $ (kako to lepo zvuci Smiley), ali ja uvek gledam sta je neka ciljna grupa, i gde bi mogao biti krajnji domet, eto svi kazu BTC je zlato, pa onda je to taj marketcap

sto se tice samog marketcap-a zlata, i njegove uporedivosti sa BTC-om, naravno da sve zavisi od ponude i potraznje, a sto se tice ostalih plemenitih metala, njima je marketcap manji, jedino je srebro iznad triliona (cini mi se na 2,5 trenutno), a za platinu se meri u bilionima, tako da nije relevantna
7050  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: March 17, 2020, 08:23:15 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/51930214

we will have RG as last grand slam this year, since it is delayed for the end of September, from 20nd till 4th of October, just one week after US Open, it clashes with Laver cup, but there was not other spare dates, and French federation do not want to cancel it

since Laver cup is promoted by Nadal, he could miss RG due to his contract obligations, so tournament will be without the king, doubt that it will happen, but RG decided new dates without consultation
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/17/french-open-tennis-postponed-until-late-september-due-to-coronavirus
7051  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Budućnost Ethereuma i ostalih altcoina on: March 17, 2020, 08:14:58 PM
Nešto postane store of value kad svijet to prihvati kao store of value. Znam da glupo zvuči ali jednostavno je tako.

Zašto je BTC pao 50%? Jer je još uvijek percipiran kao risky asset a ne kao store of value.
Po mom mišljenju ima sve predispozicije da bude vrhunski store of value financijski instrument a cijena bi mu kao takvom trebala biti blizu 100k$ da se market capom približi zlatu.

Ne, naravno da se ne mora dogoditi. Samo kažem da meni BTC jedino kao store of value ima vrijednost a u tom dijelu ima daleko najviše prednosti i daleko najmanje mana.

kako si dosao do 100k$, market cap zlata je nesto preko 7-8triliona (u zavisnosti od trenutne cene), tako da je vrednost BTC-a da bi bili uporedivi 400k$ u ovom trenutku, odnosno 350-400k$ kad bude 20 miliona BTC-a, naravno postavlja se pitanje koja ce tada biti cena zlata i da li su svetu potrebna dva store-of-value, odnosno da li treba gledati na to kao da ce Zlato i BTC podeliti trenutni market cap
7052  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Budućnost Ethereuma i ostalih altcoina on: March 17, 2020, 01:48:37 PM
Iznio sam svoje mišljenje o svemu osim o BTC-u već previše puta Grin

Jedini cilj mi je za 5 godina imati što više BTC-a, ima i on hrpetinu svojih problema ali se idejno razlikuje od ostalih coina/tokena. BTC je store of value, sve ostalo je pokušaj izrade nekog projekta.

I to je apsolutno u redu. Svatko treba imati svoj plan. Ja trenutno također investiram samo u bitcoin dugoročno i tu i tamo u neki top ALT ali to je više kratokročno.

ETH mi je nekako odvojena priča zbog meni interesantne mogućnosti jednostavnog i jeftinog deploymenta smart contracta pa ga zbog toga guram. Budući da je to jedina kripto platforma na kojoj sam stvarno nešto probao i napraviti ima posebno mjesto u mom srcu  Wink Samim time uvijek se nađe i koji ETH u novčaniku da ne bi ponestalo. A objektivno gledajući ima jako dobar potencijal za rast ako se zvijezde poklope.

svako ima pravo da ulaze kako mu volja, meni je BTC bio zanemariv deo portfolio-a, sad na ovim cenama to blago menjam, ali samo zato sto mi nekako neozbiljno nemati BTC u kripto portfolio-u, kako je trenutno kod mene, a prilika je dobra jer je cena naglo pala, sto ne znaci da ce gore, ali opet

inace, evo jedna analiza zasto je prica da je BTC store-of-value otisla niz vetar, uvek treba imati sluha za drugu stranu, jer je istina negde izmedju
https://www.coindesk.com/why-bitcoins-safe-haven-narrative-has-flown-out-the-window
7053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Activity Check of Top ERC-20 Tokens on: March 17, 2020, 01:44:36 PM

People are moving towards stablecoins as the Crypto market's fear/greem meter reached all-time low.
in bearish situation, of course the best way to safe our funds is move to stablecoin. but on the other hand, if you have enough experience in analyzing the market, now is the right time to invest for the long term.

how can anyone know when is the right time, you should analyze before making a move to invest money, and this price are lower than expected when the halving is near, but you should always do your analysis and never invest more than you can afford to lose, since crypto is highly volatile and risky investment
7054  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: March 17, 2020, 01:22:09 PM
Official: Euro 2020 postponed to next year.

Links:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-euro-2020-postponed-until-21697991
https://www.marca.com/futbol/2020/03/17/5e70a43246163fc6228b457c.html
https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/17-03-2020/europei-rinviati-2021-decisione-uefa-champions-europa-league-3601776952104.shtml

With no major tournaments in the summer (the other big one is the 'Copa America 2020' but it's very likely it'll get postponed too), I think the domestic leagues have a good chance of resuming around May/June.

@buwaytress  oi! i think this deserved a new thread title  Smiley

yeah, it is postponed for next year, so probably all leagues will continue after this break, and they will postpone CL qualification for August, and maybe shrink the time between qualification matches, so that next season could start as planned, or will a little gap to planned schedule
it is good for football, and what we can see from China, this will last for two-three months until the situation is start to normalize
7055  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and KYC on: March 17, 2020, 12:22:54 PM
i think that KYC is more for governments to have inside in the percent of people that gamble, since gambling is not promoted behavior, and it is considered as a type of addiction, that should be treated if serious, and presume that because of that there is so much regulation in the field
7056  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: March 17, 2020, 12:06:11 PM
Valencia confirmed that third of their squad is infected by corona virus, maybe they will state that as reason for been kicked-out by Atalanta, but certainly the trip to northern Italy did not bring anything good for them, four goals and virus
https://www.goal.com/en/news/valencia-confirm-that-35-per-cent-of-squad-has-tested/nvnnn4o9j71t1qe0eowr26c3g
7057  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: March 17, 2020, 12:02:33 PM
Ono sto treba pazit, je da je ta nova kampanja u testnoj fazi, tipa 2-3 tjedna i mozda zavrsi.
@slackovic je upao u Bitvest. Istina malo placaju, al je trajna.

Cijeli svijet je sad u testnoj fazi, tako da uzmi sta ti se nudi danas jer sutra... a jebatga Smiley

uzmes danas, ali sutra nemas na sto potrositi Sad, uvek ce biti sutra, nezavisno od toga kako danas izgleda - najtamnije je uvek pre svitanja, iliti najzelenije je uvek posle velikog crvenila, kad pricamo o trzistima
7058  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: March 17, 2020, 10:23:46 AM

To je data mining shit nema tu mininga

nema nikakvog mining-a, samo se prijavis jednom dnevno i to je to, mozes da ugasis telefon, ne znam sta bi mogao nakon toga da posalje od podataka sa telefona, cini se samo da prave userbase da prodaju nekom kasnije, ali je pitanje kolika ce to biti baza aktivnih korisnika na kraju
7059  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Cijene sa Binancea on: March 16, 2020, 08:25:57 PM
kad vec mogu muzicke zelje direktno u program, mozes li da ubacis i MBL u listu, ima par sa USDT na Binance-u
7060  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Pi mreža - novi coin koji se majnuje samo mobitelom on: March 16, 2020, 08:23:23 PM
Moje je misljenje da ce Pi biti samo jos jedan “refferral” coin u nizu koji je zarazio “pola” svijeta i na kraju nece imati konkretnu ulogu
Dali je to dobro, jer kao priblizava nekakav tamo kripto u krugovima gdje ce mozda netko istraziti postojece uspjesne projekte ili to nije nikako dobro za ogledalo kripta kod noobara, to ce vrijeme pokazati

Vise airdrop coin. Nema svrhu, majnuje se ali nema potrebu za konekcijom na internet niti uzima hardwerske resurse uredjaja. Ono sto sam naucio, gde god je bilo gomila besplatnih coina/tokena to je uglavnom bilo bezvredno. Sad vidim da im dobar deo sajta ne funkcionise, neozbiljno ili napusten projekat?
Na kraju ce se zavrsiti tako sto ce vlasnik prodati aplikaciju nekom, za wallet ili slicno, uz aplikaciju dolazi vec postojecih 200k ili koliko vec korisnika it to je to.

sve se slazem, samo ovde nema nikakvog majnanja, samo se prijavis jednom dnevno i mozes ugasiti telefonom, dobices broj coin-a isti kao da ti app ukljucen svo vreme, znaci da nema nikakve veze sa resursima uredjaja, ili nekim majnanjem bilo koje vrste, i mogli bi da ti legnu coin-i odmah, ali eto lepse i tokenisticnije zvuci ako se vrednost povecava linearno sa vremenom u 24 sata, a na kraju isto
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